[This post, intended for the b-greek list, was inadvertently only sent to Jim West] On Tue 27 Mar 2001 (10:54:26), jwest wrote: > I am presently translating Jude (a big task huh) and at verse 7 find > ekporneusasai > > from ekporneuw obviously. > > Is there any document which uses this word in the sense of > "inhospitible" > (or is it inhospitable)? The reason i ask is because the dreadful sin > of sodom and gomorrah was inhospitality and hence, wonder if Jude > misunderstood the sin or used the word ekporneuw in a proper sense now > now longer generally apprehended. Hi Jim, EKPORNEUW is used only in Jude 7 and in Genesis 38:24 LXX: EGENETO DE META TRIMHNON ANHGGELH TWi IOUDA, LEGONTES, _EKPEPORNEUKE_ QAMAR hH NUMFH SOU, KAI IDOU EN GASTRI ECEI EK PORNEIAS: EIPE DE IOUDAS, EXAGAGETE, KAI KATAKAUQHTW. Coincidentally, IOUDA as well as EKPORNEUW come together in this verse! SARKOS hETERAS could refer to the sons of God (fallen angels?) in Genesis 6:2 (6:3 in LXX) who desired sexual experience with the daughters of men. These could be the AGGELOUS TE TOUS MH THRHSANTAS THN hEAUTWN ARCHN of Jude 6. hETERAS SARKOS would then refer to human bodies, as opposed to *angelic* bodies. The ENUPNIAZOMENOI of verse 8 are not angels, but the TINES ANQRWPOI... ASEBEIS of verse 4, who had infiltrated the church, to the writer's dismay. Their dreams have to do with turning the grace of God EIS ASELGEIAN. ISTM that EKPORNEUW could mean "hospitable" if the sort of hospitality in view were of the immoral kind (Tamar's). "Inhospitality" towards strangers and guests does not seem to be in reference here, however prominent it is in Genesis 19:4-11. ERRWSQE, Ben -- Revd Ben Crick, BA CF 232 Canterbury Road, Birchington, Kent, CT7 9TD (UK) http://www.cnetwork.co.uk/crick.htm --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu