On Tue 26 Jun 2001 (11:57:36), cc.constantine@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Some of you linguists have any ideas about the pragmatic significance > of the clause final position of ANATEILANTOS TOU hHLIOU? > > Comments from nonlinguists are also welcome. Dear Clay, As a non-linguist, ISTM that here we have two adverbial expressions of time, one being when the women set out for the tomb; the other being the time when they arrived there. Swete suggests we understand for ERCONTAI "EXELQOUSAI... HLQON" (HB Swete, /The Gospel according to St Mark/, Macmillan, London, 3rd Ed., 1920, p 395). LIAN PRWI means before dawn; ANATEILANTOS TOU hHLIOU means after dawn: the one before the other, because the one *is* before the other! The Western MS D (Bezae) tries to reconcile LIAN PRWI with ANATEILANTOS TOU hHLIOU by substituting the present tense for the aorist: ANATELLONTOS instead of ANATEILANTOS. This gives the sense "as the sun was beginning to rise", harmonising with the accounts in Matthew 28:1, Luke 24:1, and John 20:1. The Latin Vulgate has /et valde mane... orto iam sole/ which seems to be whence Beza got his version. "Early one morning, just as the sun was rising..." as the English folk song has it. HTH ERRWSQE Ben -- Revd Ben Crick, BA CF 232 Canterbury Road, Birchington, Kent, CT7 9TD (UK) http://www.cnetwork.co.uk/crick.htm --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu