Dear Iver, First, I want to thank you. Although we've had our differences in the past, I've learned a lot about linguistics from you and several others on the list like Clay and Wayne. I find your discussions stimulating and very informative. [Ghilardi] > > In general agreement with the NRSV the great classical scholar and > > translator Richmond Lattimore has James 2:1 as follows: > > > > << ... surely the faith you have in the glory of our Lord Jesus > Christ > > does not go with discrimination among persons? >> > > > > I think this renders the Greek best. [Larsen] > I am glad to hear that. Has Lattimore produced a translation of the > NT? I am > not familiar with the name nor the translation, But it sounds good. [Ghilardi] I first became acquainted with the works of Richmond Lattimore in college when I read his translation of some of the Greek lyricists. He is perhaps best known for his translation of the Iliad and Odyssey of Homer. Then in 1962 he set his hand to translate the NT. It was not completed until 1982. I suspect the reason his work on the NT is not well known is partly because of the piecemeal fashion in which it was published and partly because during this period many new translations were being published in English backed up by high-powered marketing efforts. Even in 1982 his NT was still being published in two volumes. I think sometime during the '80s the whole NT was brought together in one volume... and promptly forgotten. > > The New Living Translation might also be cited here: > > > > << ... how can you claim that you have faith in our glorious Lord > Jesus > > Christ if you favor some people more than others? >> [Larsen] > The NLT follows Living Bible here, except that NLT shortens the LB a > bit. > This is of special interest to me since I am in the middle of > producing a > New Living Translation in Danish by revising the earlier Living > Bible. It is > interesting that LB went this way, but I assume it was based on a > feel for > the meaning in context. There are so many questions in James 2. [Ghilardi] You might be interested to know that an elder of my church translated a chunk of the Psalms for the NLT. > > Nibai kaurno hwaiteis gadriusando in airtha gaswiltith, > > silbo ainata aflifnith: ith jabai gaswiltith, manag akran bairith. [Larsen] > I am curious to know what language these two lines are written in and > what they mean. [Ghilardi] I am surprised that no one has recognized the language or the meaning. While Jerome was busy translating the Bible into Latin for people who were already reading it in that language, Bishop Wulfilas, pioneering missionary and translator, was rendering the Word of God into the Gothic language in order that he might bring his people the Gospel and win them to Christ. The Gothic peoples are gone now along with their language and culture. But fragments of the Gothic NT remain to remind us that the powerful, earthy words of Jesus deserve a like translation such as Wulfilas provided. The translation below is in a tongue I believe you are familiar with. ;-) hvis ikke Hvedekornet falder i Jorden og dør, bliver det ene; men dersom det dør, bærer det megen Frugt. These words of Jesus challenge me daily. Yours in His grace, Richard Ghilardi -- qodeshlayhvh@juno.com New Haven, CT USA Nibai kaurno hwaiteis gadriusando in airtha gaswiltith, silbo ainata aflifnith: ith jabai gaswiltith, manag akran bairith. --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu