Folks, John 6: 40, "TOUTO GAR ESTIN TOQELHMA TOU PATROS MOU hINA PAS hOQEWRWN TON hUION HAI PISTEUWN EIS AUTON ECHi ZWHN AIWNION KAI ANASTHSW AUTON EGW EN THi ESCATHi hHMERA" Pardon the poor transliteration. I'm still trying to figure out how to do that properly. Concerning the present active participles, QEWRWN and PISTEUWN, does the durative use of the present tense carry over into participles? If so, what is the force of that durative? Is it sufficient to translate these as, "each seeing and believing one...." or should it be rendered as, "each who continues seeing and believing?" Is there any implication here of seeing and believing for awhile and then no longer seeing or believing? Jim Drickamer Baton Rouge, La. --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu