On Wed 14 Nov 2001 (22:17:13), justinrogers35@hotmail.com wrote in an HTML attachment: > Dear fellow Greek students, I am a bit perplexed about an issue I came across > recently.  In Matthew 19:9, MH is used rather > than EAV MH.  Many English translations use "except" in this verse.  This is > not a proper translation of MH.  Is this > something that can be justified?  I also find it interesting that in Mark's > parallel account of this passage, the "except clause" is > left out entirely (Mk. 10:11-12).  Jesus also mentions that his intent is to > restore the principals from Creation.  The "except > clause" wasn't in God's original plan.  In addition, Romans 7:2-3, a passage > that obviously permits remarriage on the grounds > of a spouse's death, is very clear.  What is the significance of the unclear > language in Matthew19:9? Dear Justin, You'll find a whole lot about this in the Archives. But briefly, regardless of which doctrinal position you wish to espouse, you need to compare Matthew 5:31-32. hOS AN APOLUSHi THN GUNAIKA AUTOU, DOTW AUTHh *APOSTASION*. EGW DE LEGW hUMIN hOTI PAS hO APOLUWN THN GUNAIKA AUTOU *PAREKTOS LOGOU PORNEIAS* POIEI AUTHN MOICEUQHNAI, KAI hOS EAN APOLELUMEMHN GAMHSHi MOICATAI. The APOSTASION is that mentioned in Deuteronomy 24:1, SeFeR K:RiYThuTh or BIBLION APOSTASIOU (verse 3 in LXX). The LOGOU PORNEIAS is the phrase `eRWaTh DaBaR in the same verse, ASCHMON PRAGMA in LXX. The Hebrew phrase means roughly "the nudity word", a neat euphemism for sexual infidelity, and corresponding precisely with LOGOU PORNEIAS. Compare MH EPI PORNEIAi (Matthew 19:9) with PAREKTOS LOGOU PORNEIAS (Matthew 5:32). Jerome puts /nisi ob fornicationem/ for MH EPI PORNEIAi. So that is where the King James and many other English versions get "except..." from. See also Bruce Metzger's note in his /A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament/, 2nd edition, UBS, 1994, p 38. ERRWSQE Ben -- Revd Ben Crick, BA CF 232 Canterbury Road, Birchington, Kent, CT7 9TD (UK) http://www.cnetwork.co.uk/crick.htm --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu