On Fri 16 Nov 2001 (08:29:00 +0100), iver_larsen@sil.org wrote: > Ben has interpreted the ASCHMMON PRAGMA as a euphemism for sexual > infidelity. That makes good sense but we can imagine that the > interpretation would have been a hotly debated issue among Jewish > Rabbis. The Pharisees are likely to have had a conservative > interpretation and the Sadducees a much > more liberal view. Did it mean only adultery or did it have a wider > meaning as anything indecent? > It seems that the Pharisees tried to test Jesus by forcing him to make > a choice between interpretations. Both Matt 19:3 and Mark 10:2 said that > the Pharisees came to test Jesus with this question. It is clearest in > Matthew 19:3: > KAI PROSHLQON AUTWi FARISAIOI PEIRAZONTES AUTON KAI LEGONTES > EI EXESTIN ANQRWPWi APOLUSAI THN GUNAIKA AUTOU KATA PASAN AITIAN; > Jesus then goes on to compare Deut 24:1-4 with Genesis 2:24, and he takes > the more conservative interpretation. It is a question of speaking into > a Rabbinic debate. > [goodies snipped] Dear Iver, Thanks for your extended treatment of the Discourse material. In my brief reply to Justin I was primarily concerned with the remarks assigned to Jesus. The schools of Hillel and Shammai would have loved to have had the verdict of the Man from Nazareth on their side; but Jesus refused, ISTM, to be drawn. He goes back to the Torah, and leaves the learned rabbis to draw their own conclusions from basic principles. And us to draw ours. With regard to ASCHMON PRAGMA (LXX). That is more of a paraphrase, whereas Jesus' LOGOU PORNEIAS is more like a literal translation of the Hebrew, for what it's worth. In either case, it's a euphemism. ERRWSQE Ben -- Revd Ben Crick, BA CF 232 Canterbury Road, Birchington, Kent, CT7 9TD (UK) http://www.cnetwork.co.uk/crick.htm --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu