Denny Diehl to David Fox, > I have a query concerning John 3:8, > > TO PNEUMA hOPOU QELEI PNEI, KAI THN FWNHN AUTOU AKOUEIS, > ALL' OUK OIDAS POQEN ERCETAI KAI POU hUPAGEI hOUTWS ESTIN > PAS hO GEGENNHMENOS EK TOU PNEUMATOS. > > Most tranlations put, 'The wind blows where it wishes etc.' whereas > Jay Green in his MKJV has, 'The Spirit breathes where He desires etc.' > Apparently John Wycliff translated it the same as Green. Several years ago I noted several translations of Jn 3:8: "The Spirit brethith where he wole, and herist his vois, but thou wost not, fro whennis he commeth, ne whidir he goith; So is each man that is borun of the Spirit." -Wyclif @ 1375AD "The wynde bloweth where it listeth and thou hearest his sounde: butt thou canst not tell whence it commeth and whither he goeth. So is every man that is boren of the sprete." -Tyndale @ 1525AD From the time of Tyndale (Bishops Bible, King James, etc.) have translated PNEUMA ... PNEI as Wind blows. But notice also the Roman Catholic Rheims-Douay @ 1582AD "The Spirit breathes where he will; and thou hearest his voice, but thou knowest not whence he commeth and whither he goeth: so is every one that is borne of the Spirit." > It makes it harder when PNEUMA and PNEI both have double meanings. As far as I know the only place in the NT other than perhaps Jn 3:8 where PNEUMA is translated by wind is Heb 1:7 "Who makes His angels winds..." being a quote from "He makes the winds His messengers" -Psm 104:4 Is there another "wind" translation of PNEUMA in the NT? ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu