Dear Carl, Thank you for your splendid break-down for intensive AUTOS. But there were a few things in your post that still left me wondering. You wrote: << Well, I did it with Accordance, although it took a little while to analyze the results. What I found:...>> Steven Lo Vullo did it with Accordance too and found 376 instances while you only list 63 by my count. I don't get it. You also wrote: << I'd say the evidence supports exactly what I would have expected: that AUTOS as an intensive pronoun normally PRECEDES the substantive which it governs, even if it may not uncommonly FOLLOW upon a personal pronoun; there is nothing problematic with AUTHS THS hHRWDIADOS as a genitive phrase meaning "of Herodias herself." I would agree that the Greek is awkward--the long string of genitives dependent upon other genitives--but the Byzantine text you're looking at is nevertheless intelligible and grammatically sound to mean: "and when the daughter of Herodias herself entered ..." >> I agree that the Greek is intelligible and grammatically sound, but I'm still unsure what exactly AUTHS intensifies. Is it THS hHRWDIADOS, or THS QUGATROS or THS QUGATROS THS hHRWDIADOS? It's medial position would seem to indicate the third alternative. Yours in His grace, Richard Ghilardi -- qodeshlayhvh@juno.com New Haven, CT USA Nibai kaurno hwaiteis gadriusando in airtha gaswiltith, silbo ainata aflifnith: ith jabai gaswiltith, manag akran bairith. --- B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com] To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu