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Re: Roundup information
Mark Forhan wrote:
>
> Reply to 10 Reasons not to use Glyphosate:
Thanks for sharing but we do not believe you. Send the data.
And please write in writing that roundup is safe and put it on company
letterhead.
There is no data to support using roundup in on or around our forest.
There is no benifit for the LIVING SOIL.
For good information on Roundup and court cases go to Pesticide Action
Network North America. Web site
http://www.gks.com/library/pesticide/panna.html
Then go down to PESTIS Database and do a search for roundup. ( Submit
query to PESTIS now) you will find things such as this:
Gopher Menu
Score: 100 Pages: 18 Glyphosate, Part 1: Toxicology. Caroline
Score: 64 Pages: 19 Glyphosate, Part 2: Human Exposure and
Score: 53 Pages: 2 SECOND ROUNDUP BEAUTIFICATION EFFORT,
Score: 53 Pages: 2 Walter Epp is Wrong on Roundup. Thomas
Score: 28 Pages: 3 PANUPS: Weeds Could Develop Resistance
Score: 23 Pages: 2 PANUPS: Monsanto and Biotech Company
Score: 23 Pages: 2 Monsanto and Biotech Company Join
Score: 20 Pages: 2 Proposed Glyphosate Plant Could Become
Score: 20 Pages: 4 Opposition Grows to Genetically
Score: 20 Pages: 27 Federal Register, Volume 62, Number 70,
Score: 17 Pages: 3 PANUPS: Australian Ryegrass Resists
Score: 17 Pages: 3 PANUPS: Monsanto Agrees to Change Ads
Score: 15 Pages: 8 Farming In Good Taste. Mark Arax. Farmer
Score: 15 Pages: 9 Lodi's Dynamic Duo Cuts Chemicals by
Score: 15 Pages: 1 Substantial Reductions in Glyphosate.
Score: 15 Pages: 3 PANUPS: Latin American Pesticide Market
Score: 15 Pages: 3 PANUPS: Opposition Grows to Genetically
Score: 15 Pages: 3 PANUPS: U.S. Court Rules Inert
Score: 12 Pages: 2 More Pesticide Study Fraud? Global
Score: 12 Pages: 1 Spraying Damages Crops in Brazil.
Score: 12 Pages: 3 South African Police Spray Paraquat In
Score: 12 Pages: 9 Government Pesticide Policy in Nicaragua
Score: 12 Pages: 4 Deadly Deceit: Secret Pesticide
Score: 12 Pages: 3 Beyond Banning Paraquat. Angus Wright
Score: 12 Pages: 2 Pesticide-Testing Lab Investigated for
Score: 12 Pages: 1 Headlines, Michelle Thom,
Score: 12 Pages: 2 Europeans Commercialize Genetically
Score: 12 Pages: 3 Pesticides Cause Massive Bird Kills.
Score: 12 Pages: 1 Monsanto Sued Over Herbicide Resistance
Score: 12 Pages: 8 Biological Farming in Hilmar. Mark Arax.
Score: 12 Pages: 7 Leafhoppers in Retreat at Savage Island
Score: 12 Pages: 5 Organic Cotton Monitor, Volume 1, Number
Score: 12 Pages: 2 PANUPS: EPA Approves Bromoxynil on
Score: 12 Pages: 2 MORE GENETICALLY ENGINEERED CROPS
Score: 12 Pages: 3 PANUPS: Worldwide Pesticide Sales
> Hello,
>
> I am a plant breeder with a company whose parent also happens to
> manufacture a glyphosate salt analogue in Canada. I have a bit of
> experience in summarizing the effects of glyphosate salts. I work with
> Roundup resistance genes in crops and have to file with different
> governments for field trialling this material. This is my bias, up front.
>
> I respect your right to express yourself but you or the NCAP had better
> brush up on your science (particularly biochemistry, organic chemistry, and
> toxicology). I am quite familiar with the studies you cite and I take
> issue with your out-of- context summaries of ALL the studies you cited.
> Your intentions are clear but your conclusions are not correct.
>
> I believe in sustainable agriculture which by definition would involve
> reduced and careful usage of man made organic compounds. Of all the
> chemical (as opposed to 'organic') controls out there for weeds, I put it
> to you that Roundup is the lesser of the evils for large scale commercial
> weed control. It's accute mammalian toxicity is less than that of common
> table salt; the glyphosate molecule breaks down within 30 min. of contact
> with the soil, forming harmless compounds that are eaten by soil bacteria.
> The residues you referred to were non-toxic breakdown products (edible to
> soil bacteria) and are not known to have any acute or chronic effect on
> humans. The earthworm study in New Zealand was totally inconclusive ( as
> judged by peer reveiw).
> I could go on.....
>
> I don't expect to change your mind - I enjoy a healthy exchange of views.
> Roundup isn't God's gift to agriculture by any means but it's use versus
> the alternatives out there, is I believe, at this point in time, a step in
> the right direction. If you really want to attack some herbicides there
> are a heck of a lot of others out there that you could really go to town
> on!
--
John A. Keslick Jr.---Tree Anatomist & Tree Biologist.-
Sustainable Forest? Only with TREE BIOLOGY in mind.
Organic Tree Treatment Web Site:
http://www.pond.com/~treeman
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