Dear Saneteers, I have just discovered a rare seed, open polinated location in California. Based on part of the sustainable definition this concept and seed source should help many. Additionally they have the hottest seeds I have found. http://www.batnet.com/rwc-seed/ It was stared 25 years ago by: Craig & Sue Dremann P. O. Box 361, Redwood City, California 94064 U.S.A. PHONE: (415) 325-7333