Re: Logo symbolism

[Scott Pittman <pci@permaculture-inst.org>]

First of all I am sure that Bill has never written directly to this list, 
since as far as I know Bill has never appeared on any list.  Secondly Bill 
has made it clear to me and many others that he does not give permission 
for his copyrighted or registered property without his explicit 
permission.  If you have doubts you should contact the Permaculture 
Institute in Australia direct.

scott

At 07:49 AM 7/21/00 -0300, you wrote:
>I also remember a letter being published on this list by Bill Mollison
>stating clearly that the logo can be used for non-commercial purposes, such
>as courses. I am sure it is in the archives somewhere.
>
>Marsha
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Verne L. Chinampas <moistearth@yahoo.com>
>To: permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:01 PM
>Subject: Re: Logo symbolism
>
>
> > Russ Grayson wrote:
> > >There is a notion here that the logo can be used by permaculture
> > community associations but that the commercial use of the logo (only
> > available to those having completed a PDC) costs.
> >
> > Scott Pittman wrote:
> > >This is a misguided notion as I discovered from Bill. Everyone has to
> > have written permission from Bill or the PC Institute in Australia,
> > there are no exceptions as far as I know.<
> > >> The symbolism is explained on page xi of the designers manual.
> > This logo is a registered trademark of the Permaculture Institute  of
> > Australia and Bill Mollison and can only be reproduced with permission
> > of those
> > parties.>
> > --------------
> >
> > Does "misguided notion" indicate a lack of clarity from those who
> > attempt to guide/control permaculture, or from those who have not been
> > adequately apprised by them of their rights as permaculturalists? What
> > if it's a different color snake, or the other elements of the symbol
> > are slightly changed? What happens if someone does use the logo without
> > written permission?
> >
> > What is the "earth care" intention of this approach?
> >
> > I ask these questions because, as a relatively new permaculturalist,
> > I've encountered widespread confusion about the most basic
> > organizational issues. I'm wondering who can provide definitive
> > clarity, so that young permaculturalists like me are not misguided in
> > our good-faith efforts. Is there an easily researchable "Rules and
> > Regulations" about what permaculturalists are permitted to do, or
> > should we simply do whatever we want and assume someone will notify us
> > if they have a problem with it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Verne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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