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Re: [nafex] Irish Peach Apple
Hello Helene,
So far no luck making the minor changes to be able to 'Frenchify' my
keyboard! No one knows what became of the original programming disk????
Without it I can't "OK."
Anyway, about the Lodi and Transparent. Back when I originally became
obsessed and thought I would have to have EVERYTHING, I was also taking
advice when it came to early apples that don't last long. An old friend
and mentor who was in his 90's and had been grafting all his life in
zone 3 was always willing to teach and give his opinion when asked. When
we discussed these two apples his opinion was that commercialism had
tried to make Lodi out to be an improvement over Transparent. He did not
feel that this acclaim was deserved and preferred the flavor and texture
of Transparent as grown here. As with everything else, it may be the
other way around in different soils and climate, and then there is that
thing called 'personal taste.'
I personally like Transparent when I can find it before it starts to go
too soft. My tree is still too young. I can remember where I lived as a
child, they used to sell them in late July as 'Green Apples' along with
Gravenstein. These are perfect for the brave hearted who just love those
sour green apples.
I wish I could tell you more about Lodi. I want to find out more about
the other Transparent offspring, Pomme Blanche and Oriole too. Milton,
another offspring is very nice. Early apples can be so hard to get at
their best because they tend not to keep. so unless you grow them all
and have them right there to try, it can be hit or miss.
Vic zone 3 NH
"H.Dessureault" wrote:
> Hi Victoria,I read your very interesting explanation about irish peach
> and I wondered whether you know about Lodi. I read recently that it
> comes from New York, 1942, of Transparent X Montgomery parentage (not
> that I know anything about Montgomery either :~) and that it ripes
> later than Y. Transparent. I had planted one many years ago, where I
> used to live but moved away before the tree grew to produce
> fruits.Last Spring, I managed to get a few branches before the tree
> was ripped off by a bulldozer. I was lucky to find out about the plan
> and get there in time to see what I could salvage. When I cut some
> branches of the Lodi, I noticed that someone else had been there to
> cut grafting material, so someone obviously though it was worth saving
> although that person cannot know the identity of the tree as I do.I
> never tasted the apple but I might one of these days as I now have two
> one year small trees, and I am curious to know whether you can tell
> me more about this apple.Thank youHélène, zone 3
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: victoria l. caron
> To: nafex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 5:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Irish Peach Apple
>
>
>
> Being acquainted with both the Irish Peach and the Peach
> Apple of Montreal, I can say positively that these are not
> the same apple. The Peach Apple of Montreal is a very common
> apple here in northern NH and VT and right across the border
> in Quebec. I have found it to be one of several apple
> varieties consistently planted in both home and larger
> orchards during the early to mid part of the 20th century.
> The others are Duchess of Oldenburg, Yellow Transparent,
> Wolf River
> and Dudley. These five are extremely predictable finds in
> our old plantings with also an occasional Alexander. This
> may also mean that they are the ones that survived best over
> the years.
> The Peach Apple of Montreal is described somewhat in
> Beach's work. It ripens here in zone 3 well after
> Transparent and the flavor develops from sub acid to richer
> and more mellow towards the end of it's ripening period.
> This makes for several uses one of which is excellent sauce.
> This Peach is has a strong conical form, rich yellow with
> often a bright orange red cheek, hence the name in Canada
> Pomme Peche. Because of it's appearance it is sometimes
> called Yellow
> Delicious by those who still think that the only few apple
> varieties are those we find in the grocery store. The
> background would almost have to be Russian since very little
> else was grown in this region back when it was discovered.
> Vic in zone 3 NH
>
>
> Claude Jolicoeur wrote:
>
> > A 23:27 01.04.25 -0400, vous avez écrit :
> > >>>>
> >
> > Hi Don:
> >
> > With Claude's info & rendering's and Don kicking it
> over the edge,
> > boy oh boy. The minds on here dedicated to apples is
> astounding.
> >
> > Thanks for all the background...
> >
> > Gianni,
> > Please keep in mind that all I did was to quote 2 other
> people on this Irish Peach. One is from England and the
> other is in New Brunswick (zone 4), both places being very
> different from your Minnesota or Don's Virginia. I have
> never grown it myself and thus have no personnal opinion on
> it... There is another similar apple sometimes grown in
> Quebec, called Peche de Montreal (or Montreal Peach),
> possibly of Russian origin, that some claim to be the same
> as Irish Peach.
> > Claude
>
>
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