[compost_tea] Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....

From: chris reid <reidchris_at_earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:32:49 -0400





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Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....
           From: "tomjasz" <tom_at_livesoil.com>
      2. Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....
           From: "tomjasz" <tom_at_livesoil.com>
      3. Re: flowforms
           From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff_at_gardener.com>
      4. Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....
           From: "dkemnitz2000" <dkemnitz2000_at_yahoo.com>
      5. Re: flowforms
           From: soilfoodweb_at_aol.com
      6. Re: Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....
           From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff_at_gardener.com>
      7. Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....
           From: soilfoodweb_at_aol.com
      8. Re: compost tea and biodynamics
           From: Allan Balliett <igg_at_igg.com>
      9. Re: Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....
           From: ray gore <xrg22000_at_yahoo.com>
     10. Re: compost tea and biodynamics
           From: soilfoodweb_at_aol.com
     11. Tankless-Water-Heater.com
           From: ray gore <xrg22000_at_yahoo.com>
     12. Re: compost tea and biodynamics
           From: soilfoodweb_at_aol.com
     13. Re: Tankless-Water-Heater.com
           From: "dkemnitz2000" <dkemnitz2000_at_yahoo.com>
     14. Re: Molasses
           From: soilfoodweb_at_aol.com
     15. Re: Tankless-Water-Heater.com
           From: Jason Austin <jason.austin_at_shaw.ca>
     16. Re: compost tea and biodynamics
           From: soilfoodweb_at_aol.com
     17. Re: compost tea and biodynamics
           From: Graeme Gerrard <ggerrard_at_resonant.com.au>


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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:07:58 -0000
   From: "tomjasz" <tom_at_livesoil.com>
Subject: Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....

How is decanting a representative sample cheating? I'm clear on the
idea of "taking samples from the bottom", but have never heard anyone
suggest that technique would be anything but misrepresentation.
Perhaps the folks having trouble duplicating the results using the
same stuff are not following the manufacturers instructions and are
not being forthcoming about their brew techniques?



Tom Jaszewski

www.livesoil.com

702-595-7012





--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff_at_g...>
wrote:
> Folks, how are you taking samples for testing??????Some folks are
having trouble duplicating results using the same stuff.....
>
> The correct way is to get a REPRESENTATIVE tea sample. You need to
keep the machine going, take five or so small samples and that is
what gets tested. If you are decanting the tea and taking samples
from the solids in the bottom, that is 'cheating' and gives
unrepresentational higher fungal numbers.....this is not the way to
go.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff



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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:09:45 -0000
   From: "tomjasz" <tom_at_livesoil.com>
Subject: Re: Testing tea has to be done properly.....

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, ray gore <xrg22000_at_y...> wrote:
> Jeff-
> My thoughts exactly. If you take the bottom samples as
> is being recommended to some lately, what is the rest
> of the tea good for?


Who recommends bottom samples? Come on folks lets either set the
record straight or not make unfounded implications.



Tom Jaszewski

www.livesoil.com

702-595-7012





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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:17:00 -0800
   From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff_at_gardener.com>
Subject: Re: flowforms

Please stop this flowform dicussion before I do. It has nothing to do with
compost tea until someone tests it three times and tells me it works.

This topic is better discussed in a Biodynamic forum, so if someone wants to
point to that site, go ahead. After that, prove it before you start touting
it here.

Jeff
Dennis Kemnitz said:

Dennis Kemnitz said:

Being familiar with only standard
plating techniques I haven't been able to discern how SFI
differentiates active and total but am eagerly waiting to learn.


Dennis:

In past correspondence responding to some of my questions, Elaine Ingham has
stated that the active bacteria stain, and the inactive, dead and anaerobic
bacteria don't. So, if I understand correctly, total includes active,
inactive, dead, and anaerobic.

Just trying to save Elaine from having to say it again.

Now she can say that I'm not listening if I got it wrong ;). You can check
the archives for this discussion -- it's been on here between now and July,
I believe.

Chris Reid



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