ECHO (Educ concerns for hunger org) has the seeds and some info on propagation and use available. Apparently the twigs are excel lent toothbrushes as well. they are slightly alkaline and neutralize the acidic plaque. They have an interesting intern newsletter. ECHO, 17430 Durrance Rd., North Ft. Myers FL 33917-2200 voice 813 543 3246 Cheers... -- Mark Harrington email: markh@ora.com phone: (H) 707-526-0867 (W) 707-576-2434