Hey y'all. I guess we're all to busy working on our trees to talk about 'em. Anyway, the attached message appeared on the SAF listserv. It seems there is an effort to establish sci.forestry newsgroup. Perhaps ours could be a sub of that. [Personally, I like getting our discussions delivered to my mailbox, but I guess this will open up the group a bit. By the way, if you use the wonderful new Netscape Communicator (Netscape 4.0), your discussion lists can appear in the same window as your mail. ] We'd better stop talking about computers and start talking about trees again, or we'll have to rename this PC-House :>) Cheers, Tom -- Tom Kimmerer Forest Biologist University of Kentucky http://www.uky.edu/Projects/TreeWeb tkimmer@pop.uky.edu 606-257-1824 (phone) 606-323-1031 (fax)
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From: Richard B Freeman <jeanbob@selway.umt.edu> >From - Mon May 5 07:58:22 1997 From: drdav3@teleport.com (dR.DavE) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.industry.pulp-and-paper,sci.materia ls,alt.construction,sci.engr.manufacturing,sci.agriculture,sci.environment Subject: RFD: sci.forestry and misc.industry.wood-products Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <862820176.12994@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: sci.forestry Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 08:16:16 GMT Lines: 108 Path: news.ism.net!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sonysjc!vixie!ne ws.isc.org!bounce-back Xref: news.ism.net news.announce.newgroups:990 news.groups:41438 misc.industry.pulp-and-paper:1552 sci.materials:5298 alt.construction:2599 sci.engr.manufacturing:4380 sci.agriculture:6176 sci.environment:26678 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group sci.forestry unmoderated group misc.industry.wood-products This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of two world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroups, misc.industry.wood-products and sci.forestry. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroup lines: misc.industry.wood-products Lumber and engineered wood products. sci.forestry Forestry practices and silviculture. RATIONALE: all groups Forestry and silviculture (organized cultivation of trees for industry) fall between two non-related existing newsgroups, sci.environment and sci.agriculture, and fit neither very well. sci.environment is more concerned with ecology, and from a political standpoint tends to view forestry with suspicion and silviculture with contempt. sci.agriculture has several existing subgroups, none of which are related to forestry, and most people don't think of silviculture when they think of agriculture. It seems clear that based on the existing newsgroup structure, a new newsgroup for forestry and silviculture is warranted. Likewise, misc.industry.wood-products would fill a grey area between sci.forestry and existing newsgroups that touch on aspects of the manufacture of wood products without actually addressing them particularly (misc.industry.pulp-and-paper, sci.materials, alt.construction, etc.) Most, if not all, timber companies now have presences on the Internet and have hung their shingles on the Web. These two newsgroups continue the adoption of the Internet by timber and engineered-wood-products companies such as Louisiana-Pacific, Georgia-Pacific, Weyerhaeuser, Boise-Cascade, and others. Both proposed newsgroups could serve as the basis for new or relocated subhierarchies. For instance, sci.forestry.silviculture, or moving misc.industry.pulp-and-paper to misc.industry.wood-products.pulp-and-paper. For these reasons I have combined the two RFDs into one article. CHARTER: sci.forestry sci.forestry is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of forestry and silviculture, related scientific fields with the issue of forest management in common. Topics include all aspects of forestry and silviculture, including theory, research, and practical applications. Political discussions on the moral validity of related government agencies and private corporations is discouraged. Readers interested in such topics are invited to subscribe to more appropriate newsgroups such as sci.environment or talk.environment. END CHARTER. CHARTER: misc.industry.wood-products misc.industry.wood-products is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of topics related to the timber and engineered wood products industries. Topics include all aspects of the categories and manufacture of wood products; including dimensional lumber; value-added materials such as plywood, oriented strand board, particleboard, and veneer; composite materials; cellulose products; and any other products which use new or recycled wood fibers or materials. END CHARTER. CHARTER: all groups Advertising: Short relevant professional advertisements (less than 4 lines) of events, World Wide Web sites or other information directly associated with the discussion topic are permitted. Blatant off-topic or commercial advertising is not. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call for Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines. Distribution: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: misc.industry.pulp-and-paper, sci.materials,alt.construction, sci.engr.manufacturing, sci.agriculture, sci.environment, news.groups, news.announce.newgroups Proponent: David L. Vessell <david.vessell@lpcorp.com> -- David L. Vessell, webmaster, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation Information Systems, Lake Oswego OR. david.vessell@lpcorp.com or dr.dave@pobox.com tony tweedale
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