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Re: cultural myths and misery
- To: "permaculture" <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: cultural myths and misery
- From: "Rex Teague" <DibbleGardens@bigfoot.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:56:17 +1200
- In-reply-to: <LISTMANAGER-131471-32570-2001.12.05-15.47.21--DibbleGardens#bigfoot.com@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
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- Organization: Dibble Gardens... New Zealand
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- References: <LISTMANAGER-138133-32335-2001.12.05-00.03.33--skh23ca#yahoo.com@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
On 5 Dec 01, S.K. Harrison wrote:
> You opened with the claim "The perversion of the "ideals of
> science" for political/social purposes is the norm, not the
> exception." Then you gave a selection of examples. But I don't care
> how big you say they are, or how many you provide, this does not
> constitute anything besides anecdotal evidence. I suspect your
> point has merit, but you need to provide quantitative and verified
> data to convince those of us who don't want to be led around by the
> stupid-ring in our noses.
And science has "proved" mice eat cheese! John made a perfectly
valid point for me despite his "irrationality".
Fritz Schumacher in "A Guide for the Perplexed" used education as an
example of rationality's folly. Take the authority/discipline schooling
position to the extreme and you have a prison, on the other hand the
liberal/freedom approach in the extreme leads to a madhouse. Ask a
successful teacher what is the key and the answer will be along the
lines of "loving the little horrors".
Rationalise love?? Love, empathy, participation mystique,
understanding, compassion are faculties that come from a high level
of self-awareness... Swedenborg's "regeneration". To me the
rationalist's dichotomy has to be balanced with wisdom eg liberté -
egalité - fraternité.
Cheers... Rex
ps: The mice here are fearless in their pursuit of a feed of cheese.
Unless Marie ties it on they snaffle it away without triggering the
trap!! 8<)