Re: Bill Mollison copyright statement

[Skye <skye@tortuga.com>]

Hola a todos

A few weeks ago I was working in the mountain area near Nevado Toluca
(the major volcano in the State of Mexico, Mexico). One of the
agronomists I was working with, told of how, a few years ago he had
taken four of the campesinos from this area on an eductional tour/field
trip. After crossing the state of Michoacan they eventually stopped at a
beach on the Pacific Ocean. The four men stood on the beach for an hour,
staring in amazement, mouths slightly open, arms hanging loose. After an
hour of studying this amazing sight, they returned to Alejandro and
quite seriously asked, "but what does it look like in the dry season?". 

Obviously the section of the standard sylabus on clasical landscapes,
specifically the part on coral island atolls is not only irrelevant to
these mountain people, but more so, is so totally outside their realm of
experience that the very concept of an ocean island is incomprehensible. 

So, can I work with these people in the name of Permaculture or not?? I
am certainly not about to waste their time with coral atoll
strategies!!!! 

If not, then the previous comments about Pc being elitist are starting
to sound very real. Can we only teach Pc to those with sufficient
education, access to information (and maybe internet) and a wide
experience of concepts????

I have heard and read many Pc people claim Pc takes many of its
concepts/inspiration from nature - has anyone ever noticed that nature
changes and evolves???? Are we prepared to also grow and evolve -
Natural Succession is a basic premise of PC for me - lets try doing in
our organisation as well as our gardens!!

Skye

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Skye - Apdo # 391,  Patzcuaro, Michoacan, CP. 61600 México. 
fax  (52) 01 (434) 24743
Profesor y diseñador en Permacultura
Director del Instituto de Permacultura de México A.C.
Talleres de desarrollo humano, planeación participativa y 
economía comunitaria.