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- 1997 masonry heater testing Norbert Senf
- Re: Elvira Cooking Stove Prof. S.C. Bhattacharya
- Re: Elvira Cooking Stove J.J.Todd
- Elvira Cooking Stove Tom & Paula Roberts
- Re: Charcoal Kilns Ronald Kent
- Charcoal Kilns Gregory C. Brown
- Possibilities for internships/stages? Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- SWOSTHEE Single Pan Wood Stove Tom Miles
- antique stove vinascoita
- Bioenergy Email Lists and Commands Tom Miles
- FWD Message from Mauro (Italy) Tom Miles
- Mind those domain names! Andrew S. Waegel
- Re: welcome (fwd) Norbert Senf
- Re: welcome (fwd) Ronal Larson
- Do we cook with wind? Peter Verhaart
- Re: More "J" stove Peter Verhaart
- Re: More "J" stove Thomas Reed
- Re: GAS-L: Paul Wendelbo Stove test in Denmark (fwd) Tom Reed
- high performance "Helen" & "Vaagner" cook stoves Norbert Senf
- Re: plant oil as stove fuel Peter Verhaart
- Masonry cookstove Norbert Senf
- Re: plant oil as stove fuel Tom Reed
- plant oil as stove fuel Claus Martin Braunbeck
- Copy of: Wendelbro stove Thomas Reed
- Re: On efficiency... Peter Verhaart
- Efficiency and fuel comsumption Peter Verhaart
- Paul Hait stoves Ronal Larson
- Per Nielsen work Ronal Larson
- Bioenergy Email Lists and Commands Tom Miles
- Re: On efficiency and co-production of charcoal Ronal Larson
- Re: On efficiency and co-production of charcoal prasad
- Re: End of Gasification/Stove Odyssey Gayathri
- End of Gasification/Stove Odyssey Tom Reed
- Re: Try this again Norbert Senf
- Re: Try this again Ronal Larson
- Try this again Norbert Senf
- Re: Introduction (Second Repost) Norbert Senf
- Re: Introduction (Repost) Norbert Senf
- Re: Introduction Norbert Senf
- Re: Introduction Ronal Larson
- Grovers address, Tom's trip Tom Reed
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? Tom Reed
- Introduction Norbert Senf
- Charcoal, Yes or No? Ronald E West
- Re: On efficiency and co-production of charcoal Ronal Larson
- Re: On efficiency... Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- On efficiency and co-production of charcoal prasad
- Re: charcoal, yes or no? Gayathri
- charcoal, yes or no? b rajaram
- FRom Tom Reed Gayathri
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? Peter Verhaart
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? Ronal Larson
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? aellegaard
- Rumford, Altimira Tom Reed
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? Ronal Larson
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? Michael Antal
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? E.Moerman
- No Subject Daniel M. Kammen
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? Ronal Larson
- Re: Charcoal, yes or no? Michael Antal
- Charcoal, yes or no? Tom Reed
- Re: Efficiency prasad
- Re: Efficiency E.Moerman
- Re: Hampton Jetstream Skip Hayden
- Re: Hampton Jetstream Peter Verhaart
- Re: Hampton Jetstream Gayathri
- WWW archive Tom Miles
- Hampton Jetstream Prof. S.C. Bhattacharya
- Open fire turn down ratio Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- RE: Multiple topics E.Moerman
- Re: Efficiency Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Future of stoves Peter Verhaart
- Re: Shoes, ships and sealing wax Ronal Larson
- Re: Shoes, ships and sealing wax E.Moerman
- Re: Efficiency Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- RE: Efficiency? Tom Reed
- Multiple topics Ronal Larson
- Emissions aellegaard
- Re: Efficiency prasad
- Re: Efficiency? prasad
- Re: Shoes, ships and sealing wax prasad
- RE: Efficiency? Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- The open fire Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Re: Pot lids Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Request to Re-route E-mail Messages to New Address skarekezi
- Re: Shoes, ships and sealing wax Tom Reed
- Re: Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy Peter Verhaart
- Re: Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy E.Moerman
- Re: Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy E.Moerman
- Re[2]: Efficiency Skip Hayden
- Re: Efficiency Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- RE: Eindhoven Stoves E.Moerman
- Re: Efficiency Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Re: Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy Kirk R. Smith
- Re: Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy Peter Verhaart
- Shoes, ships and sealing wax Peter Verhaart
- Efficiency? Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Re: Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Re: UpDownCoCounterInverted Gasifiers Tom Reed
- Re: Rogerio's Plea Tom Reed
- Premixed and diffusion flames Tom Reed
- Eindhoven Stoves Tom Reed
- Paul Wendelbo Stove test in Denmark Tom Reed
- Re: Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy Tom Reed
- Re: A low emission stove? Ronal Larson
- Re: fuelwood foundation Ronal Larson
- Re: Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy Ronal Larson
- Re: stoves-digest V1 #50 ANovelli
- fuelwood foundation Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- A low emission stove? Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Fuelwood Consumption/refugee energy Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- RE: Lets look at radiation E.Moerman
- Re: Re - Kirk's health statistics prasad
- Re - Kirk's health statistics Ronal Larson
- Re: List AIMS Ronal Larson
- Re: about PROLENA Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- Re: Downdraft stoves down through history E.Moerman
- Rogerio's useful comments Kirk R. Smith
- Re: Kirk Smith literature Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- Re: Kirk Smith literature Kirk R. Smith
- Re: Lets look at radiation Tom Reed
- Re: Downdraft stoves down through history Tom Reed
- Kirk Smith literature Ronal Larson
- Re: A "Standard" burner proposal prasad
- A "Standard" burner proposal Tom Reed
- Re: Iimproved stoves? Ronal Larson
- Re: RE[2]: Aim of improved stoves Carol Cross
- RE[2]: Aim of improved stoves Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Re: what comes after improved stoves (Ballard-Tremeer) Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Iimproved stoves? Peter Verhaart
- Downdraft stoves down through history Kirk R. Smith
- Re: what comes after improved stoves (Ballard-Tremeer) Douglas Banks
- Re: Aim of improved stoves? Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- Lets look at radiation Peter Verhaart
- Aim of improved stoves? Grant Ballard-Tremeer
- Re: Single log burner, Hottenroth stove Peter Verhaart
- Re: Hottenroth stove Information: Coming Ice Age Tom Reed
- Re: Single log burner, Hottenroth stove prasad
- Re: Single log burner, Hottenroth stove Peter Verhaart
- Re: Single log burner, Hottenroth stove Prof. S.C. Bhattacharya
- Re: Re[2]: Single log burner Prof. S.C. Bhattacharya
- Re: Single log burner, Hottenroth stove Tom Reed
- Re[2]: Single log burner Skip Hayden
- Re: Single log burner Mark Bryden
- Re: Single log burner Tom Miles
- Re: Dick Hill Thomas Reed
- Re: Single log burner Ronal Larson
- Re: Single log burner Tom Miles
- Re: Single log burner Skip Hayden
- Re: Welcome to stoves Carol Cross
- Re: GAS-L: Bioenergy Lists and Commands apchick
- Single log burner Davost
- Bioenergy Lists and Commands Tom Miles
- Re: Air pollution monitoring (fwd) Ronal Larson
- JAK and C Stoves Thomas Reed
- Re:Charcoal making stove Peter Verhaart
- Re: Dioxin ... tolerance?? Scott Turn
- Peck of dirt prasad
- Re: Dioxin ... tolerance?? Thomas Reed
- Re: reference on cracking, swelling/shrinking during pyrolysis Peter Verhaart
- Re: Climate change story offered with mixed feelings Ronal Larson
- Climate change story offered with mixed feelings Kirk R. Smith
- Linking Environmental Policy With Energy And Tax Policy CKEZAR34
- Bourbaki again Thomas Reed
- RE: New mail archive formats for the stoves mailing list. E.Moerman
- New mail archive formats for the stoves mailing list. Zach Nobel
- reference on cracking, swelling/shrinking during pyrolysis H M Rajabu
- RE: impacts of woodstoves E.Moerman
- RE: impacts of woodstoves Tom Miles
- Details about the pyrolysis gasifier sto Per S. Nielsen
- RE: impacts of woodstoves aellegaard
- RE: impacts of woodstoves H M Rajabu
- RE: impacts of woodstoves E.Moerman
- impacts of woodstoves Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- Re: impacts of woodstoves -Chuck Kezar aellegaard
- Re: impacts of woodstoves -Chuck Kezar CKEZAR34
- RE: impacts of woodstoves E.Moerman
- RE: Pyrolyzing cookstove E.Moerman
- Re: wood contamination and efficient Peter Verhaart
- impacts of woodstoves Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- Pyrolyzing cookstove Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- Re: new on the list from Denmark, response from Ron Larson E.Moerman
- Re: new on the list from Denmark, response from Ron Larson Ronal Larson
- Re: new on the list from Denmark Per S. Nielsen
- RE: Reply to Auke Koopmans Ronal Larson
- RE: Email address of FWD in Indonesia Dr. W.S. Hulscher
- Re: wood contamination and efficient E.Moerman
- Re: wood contamination and efficient Ronal Larson
- Re: Nicaragua and stoves Rogerio Carneiro de Miranda
- Usinger computer program E.Moerman
- Re[2]: Nicaragua and stoves agblevof
- Re: Nicaragua and stoves prasad
- Re: Nicaragua and stoves Peter Verhaart
- Nicaragua and stoves Ronal Larson
- Re: Fred Hottenroth stoves; charcoal Thomas Reed
- Wrongly addressed. E.Moerman
- Re[2]: Ron's obs, Charcoal Briquettes and Banff agblevof
- Wood saving stoves info request aellegaard
- Re: Piet's Jack Stove Thomas Reed
- Re: Local partners E.Moerman
- Re: Ron's obs, Charcoal Briquettes and Banff Ronal Larson
- Re: Ron's obs, Charcoal Briquettes and Banff Thomas Reed
- Re: Local partners Thomas Reed
- Re: Wood stove for water destilation to Ronal Larson
- Condense that Water! Thomas Reed
- Re: Wood stove for water destilation to S.C. Bhattacharya
- Wood stove for water destilation to Sven-Erik Tiberg
- A few observations Ronal Larson
- Local partners E.Moerman
- Re: Peter Verhaart
- No Subject Kirk R. Smith
- Re: Banner day; Wood/char energy Thomas Duke
- Re: Banner day; Wood/char energy Peter Verhaart
- Re: Banner day; Wood/char energy Tom Miles
- Wood Burning Thomas Reed
- Banner day; Wood/char energy Thomas Reed
- Improved Spelling at EU owner-stoves@crest.org (by way of Tom Miles )
- Re: Piet's comments Thomas Reed
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. E.Moerman
- Piet's observations on my 200kW project David Beedie
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. Peter Verhaart
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. prasad
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. Peter Verhaart
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. E.Moerman
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. prasad
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. Thomas Reed
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. Peter Verhaart
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. E.Moerman
- Re: Cooking test: shielded fire. Ronal Larson
- Cooking test: shielded fire. E.Moerman
- Re: Draft in top burning Thomas Reed
- Re: Draft in top burning E.Moerman
- Re: Draft in top burning Thomas Reed
- Re: Modeling and chimneys E.Moerman
- Re: Modeling and chimneys Mark Bryden
- Re: The Whole Stick Stove Thomas Reed
- Re: Modeling and chimneys E.Moerman
- Re: Stoves of the Eighties prasad
- Re: "Whole Stick Stoves"etc. Mark Bryden
- Re: Modeling and chimneys Mark Bryden
- Re: Charcoal, Xcoal, ... E.Moerman
- Re: NEW TEST, NEW MODEL Thomas Duke
- Re: Hobo Stove Thomas Reed
- Re: Charcoal, Xcoal, ... Thomas Reed
- "Whole Stick Stoves"etc. Thomas Reed
- Re: Thanks - and good modelling Thomas Reed
- Re: Clay stoves prasad
- RE: Modeling and chimneys E.Moerman
- Modeling and chimneys Ronal Larson
- Re: Clay stoves E.Moerman
- RE: Comments on Piet's Stove E.Moerman
- Fw: E.Moerman
- Comments on Piet's Stove Thomas Reed
- NEW TEST, NEW MODEL Thomas Reed
- A new stove design: staircase stove. E.Moerman
- RE: Stove Test and comment E.Moerman
- The Open Fire Peter Verhaart
- Stove Test and comment Peter Verhaart
- Re: Clay stoves E.Moerman
- Re: Clay stoves Thomas Reed
- Stoves of the Eighties Peter Verhaart
- Re: Simple Modelling with experiments E.Moerman
- Stoves: simulation data II. E.Moerman
- Re: Stoves: simulation data. Ronal Larson
- Re: Simple Modelling with experiments Thomas Reed
- Stoves: simulation data. E.Moerman
- Re: Fire Truck Fumes Progress CKEZAR34
- Re: char stove: ground-based charcoal-making stoves Peter Verhaart
- Re: Model prasad
- Re: Yes, New Stove design? mark
- Re: Stove modelling vs Fiddling prasad
- Re: Model prasad
- Re: Yes, New Stove design? Thomas Duke
- Model Thomas Duke
- Fire Truck Fumes Progress Thomas Duke
- Re: stoves Ronal Larson
- pictures mark
- Fw: Re: Water heaters E.Moerman
- No Subject S.C. Bhattacharya
- Re: Fire Truck Fumes 2 CKEZAR34
- Re: Graphs Tom Miles
- Re: Graphs aellegaard
- Graphs E.Moerman
- Re: Legislatures vs Energy prasad
- Re: Legislatures vs Energy Ronal Larson
- Re: sending graphics to lists DAVID W J BEEDIE
- Re: Stove modelling vs Fiddling Thomas Reed
- Stove tests Thomas Reed
- Stove modelling not possible? E.Moerman
- Composition of Bioenergy and Stoves lists E.Moerman
- Graphs with email E.Moerman
- Legislatures vs Energy Thomas Reed
- Re: Yes, New Stove design? Thomas Reed
- Re: Stove modelling prasad
- Fw: Re: microwave water heater E.Moerman
- Fw: Microwave water heating E.Moerman
- Stove modelling Thomas Reed
- RE: Fuel E.Moerman
- RE: Fire Truck Fumes E.Moerman
- New Stove design? Thomas Duke
- Fuel Thomas Duke
- Fire Truck Fumes Thomas Duke
- Charcoal making stove: modeling. Reply to Ron L. 22-3. E.Moerman
- Reply on Stove fuels Ronal Larson
- RE: charcoal-making stove Ronal Larson
- Response to Moerman on: Charcoal making stove Ronal Larson
- RE: Stove fuels E.Moerman
- Re: Stoves: suggested models E.Moerman
- Stove fuels Thomas Reed
- Re: Stoves: suggested models RURALNET
- Charcoal making stove: request for test data E.Moerman
- Stoves: suggested models E.Moerman
- 200 kW Gasifier-Combustor Air-Heating Unit DAVID W J BEEDIE
- Re: Close coupled gasifier combustor DAVID W J BEEDIE
- Re: Stove Commercialization: reply to Tom Reed 20-3. prasad
- Re: Close coupled gasifier combustor Thomas Reed
- E-mail stufup Peter Verhaart
- E-mail, sent or not sent Peter Verhaart
- Fuzzy logic Peter Verhaart
- Re: Stove Commercialization: reply to Tom Reed 20-3. S.C. Bhattacharya
- Charcoal making stove: Realistic test results. E.Moerman
- Stove Commercialization: reply to Tom Reed 20-3. E.Moerman
- Piet Verhaart E.Moerman
- Re: Welcome to "stoves" Ronal Larson
- Re: Stove Commercialization Thomas Reed
- Re: "Stoves" address Thomas Reed
- Re: Welcome to "stoves" aellegaard
- Re: Welcome to "stoves" DAVID W J BEEDIE
- For-profit company E.Moerman
- Stove Commercialization RURALNET
- Re: Stove Commercialization Ronal Larson
- Please listen to the users! Turnbull, Jane@G&S M
- Re: Stove Commercialization Ronal Larson
- Re: char stove: ground-based charcoal-making stoves Ronal Larson
- Response on Stove Commercialization Ronal Larson
- Fw: RE: Stove Commercialization E.Moerman
- Fw: Re: Ferrocement for stoves E.Moerman
- Fw: Re: Hole in ground-based charcoal-making stoves E.Moerman
- Re: ground-based charcoal-making stoves Thomas Duke
- Re: Stove Commercialization Thomas Duke
- Re: char stove: ground-based charcoal-making stoves Thomas Duke
- RE: Stove Commercialization E.Moerman
- Re: your mail Tom Miles
- char stove: ground-based charcoal-making stoves E.Moerman
- Stove Commercialization RURALNET
- Re: patents, etc. prasad
- Re: your mail ken bryden
- ground-based charcoal-making stoves Ronal Larson
- Fw: Re: Linking Environmental Policy With Energy And Tax Policy E.Moerman
- Fw: Re: your mail E.Moerman
- patents, etc. Ronal Larson
- Re: STOVE TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER. 2. E.Moerman
- RE: Inverted Downdraft Stove Origins E.Moerman
- Inverted Downdraft Stove Origins Thomas Reed (by way of Tom Miles <tmiles@teleport.com>)
- Re: STOVE TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER CKEZAR34
- Re: STOVE TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER prasad
- RE: Gender Issues E.Moerman
- Gender Issues Turnbull, Jane@G&S M
- STOVE TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER Thomas Reed (by way of Tom Miles <tmiles@teleport.com>)
- RE: Anders 11th March. aellegaard
- RE: Anders 11th March. E.Moerman
- RE: Anders 11th March. E.Moerman
- More on Fuzzy Logic Thomas Duke
- Stoves back online E.Moerman
- Mailing List Services Restored Andrew S. Waegel
- Comments on Tom, Etienne, Ron and msg to all aellegaard
- The need for balance corrections E.Moerman
- Re: Annular Heat Transfere (2) Thomas Duke
- Re: Annular Heat Transfere Thomas Duke
- Re: Comments on charcoal E.Moerman
- I am still alive prasad
- Re:Iets Anders Peter Verhaart
- Re: Annular Heat Transfere Peter Verhaart
- re: Hole in the Ground Stove Thomas Duke
- Thanks Team Thomas Duke
- Comments on charcoal aellegaard
- Ron's request re stove and kiln emissions Kirk R. Smith
- Response to Prasad's 26 Feb. Ronal Larson
- Response to Ellegard's of 26 Feb. Ronal Larson
- Re: Hole in the Ground Stove Ronal Larson
- Liquid Piston Stirling Engine Thomas Duke
- Annular Heat Transfere Thomas Duke
- Hole in the Ground Stove Thomas Duke
- RE: Questions. fundamental and technical E.Moerman
- Stoves development E.Moerman
- Re: Ron 25 Feb E.Moerman
- Messages not received? E.Moerman
- 3 successful stoves Thomas Duke
- Re: Questions. fundamental and technical prasad
- Questions. fundamental and technical aellegaard
- Response to Prasad's of 23 Feb Ronal Larson
- Re: Reply to Verhaart Ronal Larson
- Re: Mail not received by Piet Ronal Larson
- Re: Reply to Piet Ronal Larson
- Re: Response to E.Moerman Ronal Larson
- Stove Smoke? Thomas Duke
- Mail not received by Piet Peter Verhaart
- Re: Reply to Piet and Ken on conferences and lodgings Peter Verhaart
- Wood Match Anaology Thomas Duke
- Response to Ron Larson. E.Moerman
- Response to E. Moerman. Ronal Larson
- RE: Reply to Verhaart. Ronal Larson 23 Feb. E.Moerman
- Reply to Verhaart Ronal Larson
- Reply to Piet and Ken on conferences and lodgings Ronal Larson
- Introduction and sketch of a new stove Sven-Erik Tiberg
- RE: Comments on Prasad paper. To Ron Larson 21 Feb. Peter Verhaart
- Re: Reply to Jane Turnbull on Buchanan Peter Verhaart
- Re: Response to Moerman . prasad
- RE: Response to Moerman . E.Moerman
- Response to Moerman . Ronal Larson
- RE: Comments on Prasad paper. To Ron Larson 21 Feb. E.Moerman
- Fw: Tiny Pressure drops E.Moerman
- Re: Reply to Jane Turnbull on Buchanan kenneth bryden
- Comments on Prasad paper Ronal Larson
- Modelling of pressure in a stove E.Moerman
- Reply to Jane Turnbull on Buchanan Ronal Larson
- Re: Questions on Verhaart's First trial charcoal making stove prasad
- RE: Questions on Verhaart's First trial charcoal making stov Turnbull, Jane@G&S M
- Questions on Verhaart's First trial charcoal making stove Ronal Larson
- Re: New Recruit Elderly Woodstove Research Ronal Larson
- First trial charcoal making stove Peter Verhaart
- A first list of desired stove specs Ronal Larson
- RE: Whole world vs. Third World Applications E.Moerman
- RE: Forced draft,.... E.Moerman
- Whole world vs. Third World Applications Thomas Duke
- Re: Time to sail prasad
- Re:Time to sail Peter Verhaart
- Response to Prasad of 15 Feb. Ronal Larson
- Response to Bhattacharya Ronal Larson
- Response to Prasad on charcoal-making stoves Ronal Larson
- RE: Cookstove round table: Time to sail (leave harbor) E.Moerman
- Let's take action E.Moerman
- Re:Time to sail prasad
- C.V. P.V. Peter Verhaart
- Cookstove round table: Time to sail (leave harbor) S.C. Bhattacharya
- Re: Real World vs. World competition Tom Miles
- Re: Real World vs. World competition Thomas Duke
- Re: Real World vs. World competition prasad
- Re: Network procedures Tom Miles
- test Andrew S. Waegel
- Re: Real World vs. World competition Ronal Larson
- Re: Real World vs. World competition Tom Miles
- Real World vs. World competition Thomas Duke
- Re: Network procedures Ronal Larson
- Re: Network procedures Tom Miles
- Re: Majordomo results (fwd) Tom Miles
- RE: stoves. To Kenneth Bryden E.Moerman
- Majordomo results (fwd) Ronal Larson
- Response on Outreach Ronal Larson
- Wood Stove Outreach (Liberia, Africa) Thomas Duke
- Re: stoves S.C. Bhattacharya
- RE: Stove Calculations & End users. To Tom DUke 10 Feb. E.Moerman
- stoves kenneth bryden
- Re: VITA stove participation E.Moerman
- Re: Elderly Stove Research (fwd) Peter Verhaart
- Stove Calculations & End users Thomas Duke
- Stove Publications E.Moerman
- Re: Pyrolysis Modelling. To Thomas Reed 8th Feb. E.Moerman
- Discussion subject E.Moerman
- Elderly Stove Research (fwd) Ronal Larson
- RE: 1. draft purpose and scope. To: Ron 7 Feb. E.Moerman
- 1. draft purpose and scope Ronal Larson
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