You were wondering how long it would take for me to talk about that, huh? Here is a good new source from Solar Box Cookers International: http://www.xmission.com/~seer/sbcn/index.htm Thanks to Kerry Miller and Sanjay Sharma for sharing it. And right now I'm waiting for the first sunny, not-windy day to take my renovated box cooker outside. Marge mwood@acuvax.acu.edu solar cookers