Tangents

The ENO WORLD presents Tangents, a public bulletin board for mention of stuff not specifically related to Brian Eno but of potential interest to the EnoWeb audience. For example, news of Eno associates such as Roger Eno, Daniel Lanois, Gavin Bryars, Michael Nyman, Jon Hassell, and Michael Brook might be worth noting here. Announcements of creative workshops, installations and events, cover songs... reader's own musical or web projects... I don't want this to be a general bulletin board but welcome anything with some perceived tangential Eno reference. Use the Eno Stories page if you're looking for Eno stories or to add one... Submit your own Eno Tangents if you have something not quite Eno to share.


It's time for someone do do an record inspired by
reviews of records she hasn't heard. Whenever I
go out and buy a record on the basis of a rave
review I'm disappointed. I always wish I had a
copy of the record I heard in my head when I read
the review. You could say: "This album is
based on Greil Marcus' review of Sleater-Kinney's
album 'Dig Me Out'." You could finish the record
and then go out and buy the Sleater-Kinney album
and see how close you got. Or you could do a record
based on reviews of a record you've done: "The
Dropped," for example. This feels like an un-original
idea. Did I read this somewhere?

ian kennedy <kiko@world.std.com>
- Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 15:43:06 (EDT)

From Roxy to THE Drop . . .

The memories are flowing out of me, like a gurgling stream of unstoppable cognizance! Immersed in the torrent of thought these memories evoke, the past is unmasked with a sentient prowess!

An original Roxy Music button given me by Brian Eno, still glows hot pink -- the "Roxy Music" logo vibrating in distinctive purple script. It currently sits atop my Power Mac, reminding me of an era passed. There remains, however, a timelessness about Eno and Ferry's Roxy Music -- miraculous Mellotron, unconscionable monkey fur, glitter, make-up and all.

Wide-eyed, nubile and naive was I, meeting Eno during their 2-day gig at My Mother's Place in DC, that year. (I really liked the first Roxy album, but went mostly to learn about sound and lights, as I knew the sound and light technicians there.)

The show was truly amazing - enhanced not solely by rare energy and image, but also by Roxy's unmistakable courage to truly be 'out there'.

Saturated in a style unique unto themselves, Roxy created a certain, esoteric ambiance I have not seen since! There was, remarkably, a peculiar sense of spirituality about them - despite their glitter and pomp. These formidable eccentricities were further accentuated by Brian Eno's wild, trilling electronics, Phil Manzanara's introspective, innovative guitaring, Andy Mackay's eerie oboe solos, and Bryan Ferry's interesting lyrical imagery. I instantly fell in love with Ferry's voice, Phil's unique guitar style, Andy's musicianship, and Eno's stance as a theatrical, NON-musician/art performer. My recollection of the drummer and bassist is rather vague -- a handsome, yet anonymous rhythm section, setting an effective groove.

(I was to see Roxy many times thereafter. The Avalon tour was the last jaunt, which I photographed well beyond the time Mr. Electronics had fled the Roxy Music scene!)

Eno began calling me Darling, whenever he saw me about, in the club, between sets. It was hardly surprising that my girlfriend, Genowefa, and I were invited to the Roxy party, back at the hotel . . .

Surprisingly, we found Eno decidedly infatuated with metaphysics and the paranormal (?)! He just HAD to show us the books on magic and the occult, were bulging out of his suitcases! He also took great pride in showing us a rather bizarre, semi-nude photo of himself (also rather bulgy). This embarrassed us, as we were not the groupies he may have expected that evening. Amusing too . . . Andy MacKay presented himself naked, charmingly trying to solicit a massage from various ladies in the room.

(Eno and Andy were obviously and generously uninhibited.)

Bryan Ferry did not hang about with the rest of the troupe. He was off with some mannequin-like babe, in his own private suite.

When the party began showing further signs of unyielding degeneration, we left. Eno walked us out, and hailed a cab for me. As I gazed out the taxi window, I saw him tottering at the heels of Genowefa, who, enhanced by platform shoes, was over six feet tall. (I suppose he did not prefer outspoken, petite blondes, such as myself -- and himself.)

Soon thereafter, Genowefa received a letter from Eno, whilst he was still on tour. (I think she was actually intimidated by him.) She had a dream about the letter arriving in a red envelope. We called it The Red Letter Dream. (Perhaps I will write and title a song after it, in encomium.)

Those were strange and wonderful days!

The only subsequent contact *I* have had with Eno relates directly to my friends, The Urban Verbs. Eno wound up producing a couple of songs for them, and singing backup, after being knocked out by one of their early performances at CBGB, in NY. Luckily, I was around at the time, frequenting the usual venues for The Verbs, and new music. Also, I was trying to expand an interview library I was building for the (50,000 watt) college radio show I had at Georgetown University . . .

. . . 'Revolt Into Style.'

Unfortunately, while speaking with Eno in passing, there was no memorable verbal exchange. There were no anecdotes, no memorable quotes and - unlucky for me - no Brian Eno interview. (Recounting the moments, she does . . . with a sigh.)

The Urban Verbs, "the great, lost band," as I call them, also avowed rare talent, never fully recognized! As Trouser Press printed in their Rock Encyclopedia, The Urban Verbs were "fascinating and tragically overlooked!" They recorded two albums for Warner, the first produced by Mike Thorne, the second by Steve Lillywhite. Albeit, Mike and Steve are solid producers (and Mike, a friend) I always felt Eno should've produced albums for The Verbs! Perhaps musical history would have changed for the better, had he done so. Realistically speaking, however, Eno hadn't reached the level of expertise Mike or Steve had -- by that point, anyway.

Over the years, I began to favor Bryan Ferry - especially during the Stranded, Country Life and Siren periods. I have photographed Ferry a few times - the last time being on the Avalon tour. Although Eno left me cold, as his attitude became rather snobbish and sardonic, I have since understood why. It pleased me greatly when he and Ferry collaborated production and renewed their friendship over Ferry's album - Mamouna.

The Ethereal Chanteuse . . .

Lately, I have been developing my own rather unique approach to music, with the band I created two years ago - Verborgen! We began as a trio - a Winter landscape of interest, but Gothic-esque and rather dark. We have since captured the animation of the music in its Springtime. Teaming with new life, we are now 7:

Xyra - Vocals, rhythm guitar, auxiliary keyboards

Andrew Cann - Grand & digital pianos, 2nd acoustic & electric guitars

Cris Chillura - Lead Spanish and electric guitars

Fred Lieder - Acoustic & electric cellos

Norm Thorne - Drums & percussion

Larry Lawrence - Fretless bass guitar, sequencers, midis

Don Stapleson - Clarinet, flute, saxophones

Xyra & Verborgen have been referred to as "Cabaret for the New Millennium" by Robert Goldstein (of Verbs' fame).

Robert is music director and co-produced our new album - Where Glass Birds Fly, along with Marco Delmar, formerly lead singer, guitarist and composer for the Elektrics. Three of the 10 tracks were recorded at National Public Radio Studios, the remaining seven at Marco Delmar's studio - Recording Arts. The album was mastered by Bill Wolf, formerly of The Fugs . . . YES, The Fugs!!!

Our latest CD, Where Glass Birds Fly, will be released July 25, 1998, at Tower Records' Corporate Location, in Fairfax VA, outside Washington DC.

The release party was originally planned to fall on the 10th anniversary of Nico's death - July 18. We plan performing a few Nico & Velvet Underground tunes, in eulogy, albeit a week late.

Trivia Note:
Eno appears on Nico's album, The End, along with John Cale and Phil Manzanera.

In closing . . .

Brian Eno has not only combined forces with some enthralling talents, but has left his own indelible imprint of style and intellect on contemporary music, ART, and academia which surely must endure! We wish him continued success, good health and happiness -- however he wishes to define HIS HAPPINESS!

LEBE . . . ALL!

Xyra -
The Ethereal Chanteuse
Verborgen@aol.com

Xyra & Verborgen's Home Page -

http://www.musicscene.com/friends/xyra.html

Xyra's Trouser Press Page -

http://webx.trouserpress.com/cgi-bin/WebX.cgi?135@1.HvPav62w^8@15171@.ee6df36

Xyra (Le Chanteuse) <Verbrogen@aol.com>
- Friday, June 19, 1998 at 15:24:50 (EDT)

From Roxy to THE Drop . . .

The memories are flowing out of me, like a gurgling stream of unstoppable cognizance! Immersed in the torrent of thought these memories evoke, the past is unmasked with a sentient prowess!

An original Roxy Music button given me by Brian Eno, still glows hot pink -- the "Roxy Music" logo vibrating in distinctive purple script. It currently sits atop my Power Mac, reminding me of an era passed. There remains, however, a timelessness about Eno and Ferry's Roxy Music -- miraculous Mellotron, unconscionable monkey fur, glitter, make-up and all.

Wide-eyed, nubile and naive was I, meeting Eno during their 2-day gig at My Mother's Place in DC, that year. (I really liked the first Roxy album, but went mostly to learn about sound and lights, as I knew the sound and light technicians there.)

The show was truly amazing - enhanced not solely by rare energy and image, but also by Roxy's unmistakable courage to truly be 'out there'.

Saturated in a style unique unto themselves, Roxy created a certain, esoteric ambiance I have not seen since! There was, remarkably, a peculiar sense of spirituality about them - despite their glitter and pomp. These formidable eccentricities were further accentuated by Brian Eno's wild, trilling electronics, Phil Manzanara's introspective, innovative guitaring, Andy Mackay's eerie oboe solos, and Bryan Ferry's interesting lyrical imagery. I instantly fell in love with Ferry's voice, Phil's unique guitar style, Andy's musicianship, and Eno's stance as a theatrical, NON-musician/art performer. My recollection of the drummer and bassist is rather vague -- a handsome, yet anonymous rhythm section, setting an effective groove.

(I was to see Roxy many times thereafter. The Avalon tour was the last jaunt, which I photographed well beyond the time Mr. Electronics had fled the Roxy Music scene!)

Eno began calling me Darling, whenever he saw me about, in the club, between sets. It was hardly surprising that my girlfriend, Genowefa, and I were invited to the Roxy party, back at the hotel . . .

Surprisingly, we found Eno decidedly infatuated with metaphysics and the paranormal (?)! He just HAD to show us the books on magic and the occult, were bulging out of his suitcases! He also took great pride in showing us a rather bizarre, semi-nude photo of himself (also rather bulgy). This embarrassed us, as we were not the groupies he may have expected that evening. Amusing too . . . Andy MacKay presented himself naked, charmingly trying to solicit a massage from various ladies in the room.

(Eno and Andy were obviously and generously uninhibited.)

Bryan Ferry did not hang about with the rest of the troupe. He was off with some mannequin-like babe, in his own private suite.

When the party began showing further signs of unyielding degeneration, we left. Eno walked us out, and hailed a cab for me. As I gazed out the taxi window, I saw him tottering at the heels of Genowefa, who, enhanced by platform shoes, was over six feet tall. (I suppose he did not prefer outspoken, petite blondes, such as myself -- and himself.)

Soon thereafter, Genowefa received a letter from Eno, whilst he was still on tour. (I think she was actually intimidated by him.) She had a dream about the letter arriving in a red envelope. We called it The Red Letter Dream. (Perhaps I will write and title a song after it, in encomium.)

Those were strange and wonderful days!

The only subsequent contact *I* have had with Eno relates directly to my friends, The Urban Verbs. Eno wound up producing a couple of songs for them, and singing backup, after being knocked out by one of their early performances at CBGB, in NY. Luckily, I was around at the time, frequenting the usual venues for The Verbs, and new music. Also, I was trying to expand an interview library I was building for the (50,000 watt) college radio show I had at Georgetown University . . .

. . . 'Revolt Into Style.'

Unfortunately, while speaking with Eno in passing, there was no memorable verbal exchange. There were no anecdotes, no memorable quotes and - unlucky for me - no Brian Eno interview. (Recounting the moments, she does . . . with a sigh.)

The Urban Verbs, "the great, lost band," as I call them, also avowed rare talent, never fully recognized! As Trouser Press printed in their Rock Encyclopedia, The Urban Verbs were "fascinating and tragically overlooked!" They recorded two albums for Warner, the first produced by Mike Thorne, the second by Steve Lillywhite. Albeit, Mike and Steve are solid producers (and Mike, a friend) I always felt Eno should've produced albums for The Verbs! Perhaps musical history would have changed for the better, had he done so. Realistically speaking, however, Eno hadn't reached the level of expertise Mike or Steve had -- by that point, anyway.

Over the years, I began to favor Bryan Ferry - especially during the Stranded, Country Life and Siren periods. I have photographed Ferry a few times - the last time being on the Avalon tour. Although Eno left me cold, as his attitude became rather snobbish and sardonic, I have since understood why. It pleased me greatly when he and Ferry collaborated production and renewed their friendship over Ferry's album - Mamouna.

The Ethereal Chanteuse . . .

Lately, I have been developing my own rather unique approach to music, with the band I created two years ago - Verborgen! We began as a trio - a Winter landscape of interest, but Gothic-esque and rather dark. We have since captured the animation of the music in its Springtime. Teaming with new life, we are now 7:

Xyra - Vocals, rhythm guitar, auxiliary keyboards

Andrew Cann - Grand & digital pianos, 2nd acoustic & electric guitars

Cris Chillura - Lead Spanish and electric guitars

Fred Lieder - Acoustic & electric cellos

Norm Thorne - Drums & percussion

Larry Lawrence - Fretless bass guitar, sequencers, midis

Don Stapleson - Clarinet, flute, saxophones

Xyra & Verborgen have been referred to as "Cabaret for the New Millennium" by Robert Goldstein (of Verbs' fame).

Robert is music director and co-produced our new album - Where Glass Birds Fly, along with Marco Delmar, formerly lead singer, guitarist and composer for the Elektrics. Three of the 10 tracks were recorded at National Public Radio Studios, the remaining seven at Marco Delmar's studio - Recording Arts. The album was mastered by Bill Wolf, formerly of The Fugs . . . YES, The Fugs!!!

Our latest CD, Where Glass Birds Fly, will be released July 25, 1998, at Tower Records' Corporate Location, in Fairfax VA, outside Washington DC.

The release party was originally planned to fall on the 10th anniversary of Nico's death - July 18. We plan performing a few Nico & Velvet Underground tunes, in eulogy, albeit a week late.

Trivia Note:
Eno appears on Nico's album, The End, along with John Cale and Phil Manzanera.

In closing . . .

Brian Eno has not only combined forces with some enthralling talents, but has left his own indelible imprint of style and intellect on contemporary music, ART, and academia which surely must endure! We wish him continued success, good health and happiness -- however he wishes to define HIS HAPPINESS!

LEBE . . . ALL!

Xyra -
The Ethereal Chanteuse
Verborgen@aol.com

Xyra & Verborgen's Home Page -

http://www.musicscene.com/friends/xyra.html

Xyra's Trouser Press Page -

http://webx.trouserpress.com/cgi-bin/WebX.cgi?135@1.HvPav62w^8@15171@.ee6df36

Xyra (Le Chanteuse) <Verbrogen@aol.com>
- Friday, June 19, 1998 at 15:23:23 (EDT)

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t i m o t h y e d w a r d s <immersive@geocities.com>
- Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 13:25:53 (EST)

My band that we havent named yet is planning on doing a cover of the song ''Kings Lead Hat'' and maybe ''Baby's on Fire''

StevePawlenko
- Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 12:52:49 (EST)

I'm just learning to play guitar, and the other day, played part of Fripp's 'Evening Star'...feel like I've been given keys to the Kingdom.. :)

Shelly Kubas <mermaid@baynet.net>
- Friday, October 31, 1997 at 14:49:45 (EST)

Does anybody have the foggiest idea what has happened to Andy Mackay these days?

I heard that his wife died, but that's just a rumour so far.

Any ideas, please email...


Phil South <phil@webscape.co.uk>
- Wednesday, October 15, 1997 at 11:53:30 (EDT)

From Eno to Verborgen (Our Band) . . .

Any contact *I* have had with Eno, subsequent to meeting him with Roxy, relates directly to my friends, The Urban Verbs. He wound up producing a couple of their songs, and singing backup, after being knocked out by them, live at CBGB, in NY. Luckily, I was around at the time, frequenting the usual venues for The Verbs, and new music. Also, I was trying to expand an interview library I was building for the (50,000 watt) college radio show I had at the time . . .

. . . 'Revolt Into Style'.

Unfortunately, in speaking with Eno in passing, there was no memorable verbal exchange. There were no anecdotes, no memorable quotes and no Eno interview. (I fondly recount the moments.)

The Urban Verbs, "the great, lost band," as I call them, also avowed rare talent, never fully recognized! As Trouser Press printed in their Rock Encyclopedia, The Urban Verbs were "fascinating and tragically overlooked!" They recorded on Warner for only two albums, the first produced by Mike Thorne, the second by Steve Lillywhite. Albeit, Mike and Steve are solid producers (and Mike, a friend) I always felt Eno should've produced albums for The Verbs! Perhaps musical history would have changed for the better, had he done so. Realistically, however, Eno hadn't reached the level of expertise Mike or Steve had -- by that point, anyway.

Currently, I am making my own music! I have formed a rather avant-garde, neo-Classical-Apocalyptic-Gothic band called Verborgen. We are only three -- pianist/midi key-boardist/guitarist -- Andrew Cann, versatile lead guitarist, Cris Chillura, and I, that Xyra-Diva. I compose most of the material, sing lead, play 2nd guitar and light keyboards. Hopefully Guitarist/composer, Robert Goldstein, fornerly of The Urban Verbs, will be joining us in some capacity!

Verborgen has been referred to as:

"Powerful, Beautiful and Haunting . . .
An Original Neo-Classical (Folk-Gothic) Alternative in Heroic, Modern Music."

Robert Goldstein says we are "Cabaret for the '90s!"

Our web page is at Music Scene International , under Scenesters . . .

Or access us directly through our specific URL:

http://musicscene.com/friends/xyra.html

Best Regards!

Xyra.

Xyra <Verborgen@aol.com>
- Monday, July 14, 1997 at 14:30:36 (EDT)

Wanted to mention Loopers Delight, a website on musical experiments that might interest Eno oriented folks.


Looper's Delight is a cultural and informational resource for musicians creating with audio loops of every sort. (or at least it will
be soon!) Loop based music essentially involves the repetition of audio samples, or loops. From that basic premise looping
moves off in numerous directions, encompassing a wide range of techniques for building, manipulating, and using loops. The
technique crosses many musical boundaries and appears in a wide range of musical styles and genres.



Mal <mal@emf.net>
- Wednesday, October 16, 1996 at 02:28:52 (EDT)

The HELP album's executive producer and WAR CHILD patron Brian Eno explains his involvement with the charity and offers an explanation of the historical and political background that continued to fuel this most bitter of wars in Bosnia.
http://www.warchild.org/artists/help/mm-eno.html

Other Eno-related pages are:

http://www.warchild.org/artists/pavarott/p-friend.html
http://www.warchild.org/artists/pagan/pagan.html
http://www.warchild.org/artists/help/help.html
http://www.warchild.org/artists/little/little.html

Rob van den Dool <warchild@cyber.nl>
- Monday, September 30, 1996 at 08:58:05 (EDT)

...hey, I thought the url would be added automatically...so here`s
the addition once more - with the url:
this url:
http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/
connects you to an extensive web-site on the English writer
and musician Robert Calvert. Brian Eno collaborated on
two occasions with Robert Calvert during the mid 70s:
Eno played on Calvert`s first solo-album "Captain Lockheed
and the Starfighters" and produced Calvert`s following record
"Lucky Leif and the Longships" in 1975 - as far as I know, this
was Eno`s first work as a producer.
Check the site out to get much more infos on Mr. Calvert and
the bigger multimedia / video portrait projekt of which this
site is the first part.
Knut Gerwers

knut gerwers <videofest@mediopolis.de>
- Tuesday, July 16, 1996 at 22:32:08 (EDT)

this url connects you to an extensive web-site on the English writer
and musician Robert Calvert. Brian Eno collaborated on
two occasions with Robert Calvert during the mid 70s:
Eno played on Calvert`s first solo-album "Captain Lockheed
and the Starfighters" and produced Calvert`s following record
"Lucky Leif and the Longships" in 1975 - as far as I know, this
was Eno`s first work as a producer.
Check the site out to get much more infos on Mr. Calvert and
the bigger multimedia / video portrait projekt of which this
site is the first part.
Knut Gerwers

Knut Gerwers <videofest@mediopolis.de>
- Tuesday, July 16, 1996 at 22:28:56 (EDT)

A version of Sparrowfall was played on BBC Radio 3's Mixing It
program on Monday the first of July. It was played by a small
string ensemble called Instrumental. They also did arrangements
of Little Fluffy Clouds and Re-evolution. Robert Sndal and Mark
Russel commented on how well it worked as a string arrangement.
I personal felt Sparrowfall worked much better than either of
the other pieces. They are not currently available as
recordings - Instrumental do no have a recording contract yet.

Jim O'Shea <j.oshea@doc.mmu.ac.uk>
- Wednesday, July 03, 1996 at 07:04:33 (EDT)

I've written (yet another) Oblique Strategies application. It is based on Gregory Taylor's post, and lets you have a deck with any version, or combination of versions, in the rotation. It is a windows program written in Delphi. It also has a control panel with lots of gratifying little settings to play with. If you want to help disseminate this (yes, it's free) write at the above address. Best Regards, Freeman Crouch freeman_crouch@acm.org

freeman crouch <freeman_crouch@acm.org>
- Wednesday, June 26, 1996 at 19:42:23 (EDT)

Wanted to mention the Elephant Talk website for the
Fripp/King Crimson mailing list:

see: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/aig/staff/toby/et/
or the partial mirror at http://members.aol.com/etmirror/

mal
- Tuesday, May 28, 1996 at 17:00:12 (EDT)

Sorry, but I neglected to add the link to Oblique Strategies.

Bryan Lewellen <bryrock@nashville.net>
- Saturday, May 25, 1996 at 08:50:25 (EDT)

An open invitation to experience "Oblique Strategies" on the web.
This requires Netscape 2.0 and Shockwave. You can read the deck sequentially, randomly draw a single card or randomly draw three cards (my personal favorite).

Bryan Lewellen <bryrock@nashville.net>
- Saturday, May 25, 1996 at 08:46:46 (EDT)

I am compiling an oblique strategies zine. Interested? Email me and i'll tell all.

emily bick <ebick@butler.edu>
- Friday, May 17, 1996 at 12:42:24 (EDT)

Cluster Information Service has history and discography info on Cluster, a band Eno has recorded with. A number of their releases including the lps with Eno have recently been released on CD in the US.

Dieter
- Thursday, May 16, 1996 at 18:36:39 (EDT)

Derek Sivers' Hit Me has a cool Enhanced CD out with a stack of multimedia integrated.
It's probably the slickest independent CD production I've heard. It fuses a funky James
Brown groove, hints at the Beatles in production and song structures and is a lot of fun.
(yeah, he sez that too, but it's true!)
Derek is a guitar wizard who has toured with Ryuichi Sakamoto, I think,
his production chops are way up there, making this the sort of release
that I think some Eno fans would appreciate. It's
catchy, it's poppy, but in such a funny and memorable way that makes it easy
to imagine you'd already heard some of the tracks on the radio before.

Anyway. Derek's got a web site up now too, which includes a decent amount
of useful info for musicians too. www.hitme.net

and this is one of the sorts of tangents I'd like to see here -- cd reviews, info on
interesting and creative artists, etc.


mal
- Wednesday, May 15, 1996 at 00:26:21 (EDT)

I was wondering; does anybody out there have the Lester Bangs interview with Eno that appeared in *Musician* #21, 11/79? I have a several Eno-related reviews I could trade as Word (or compatible) files. If anybody simply has hard copy I'd gladly trade for a xerox nonetheless. Also looking for any other out-of-print Bangs material. Can anybody help?

S. Czapla <morpheus@fcs-net.com>
- Monday, July 22, 1996 at 01:16:48 (EDT)


This is not really news but more a
request for news. I've heard that Eno
is coming to South Africa to find
interesting people to work with.
If so I'd really like to meet him and
play him some of our projects .
There's a lot going on here and
a lot of great music and audio
I've been an admirer of his work
since the first Roxy Music album and
liked the Zvuki Mu album amomngst others
My studio is putting out some very
interesting new music and would really
like to connect up with him if he's going
to be here.


Warrick Sony <shifty@wn.apc.org>
- Tuesday, August 20, 1996 at 09:13:03 (EDT)


I wanna jam w/ ya man!
I would love to hear your opinion of my work...
get in touch please...
Gym Nasium-Saldutti

Gym Nasium-Saldutti <gymart@voicenet.com>
- Saturday, December 21, 1996 at 20:38:35 (EST)