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	<title>Comments on: Some Triangle Futures &#8212; maybe &#8212; just if</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc is almost right. Social media and social networking can happen on private platforms, but they need not. Take this blog or any blog that may be self-hosted or hosted on a service. But that&#039;s not really my point. 

My point is that social media are part of a cultural practice that draws its self-conception from open source culture and its values (and Stewart Brand would say from hippie culture) which sees open participation and status based on some kind conception of merit as some of the core values.

I wouldn&#039;t confused culture with engineering although there are clear interactions between the two. How tools are used is culture; not the tools themselves. What is exchanged in email, blogging, virtual worlds and games, or structured (sorta) networking sites is social capital most often in the form of knowledge capital within various social networks. The sites and tools only facilitate this exchange and creation and bonding.

Open source and free software helped establish those values as something worthy of attention, preservation and as something practical in the longer run. What Eric Von Hippel calls a Democracy of Innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc is almost right. Social media and social networking can happen on private platforms, but they need not. Take this blog or any blog that may be self-hosted or hosted on a service. But that&#8217;s not really my point. </p>
<p>My point is that social media are part of a cultural practice that draws its self-conception from open source culture and its values (and Stewart Brand would say from hippie culture) which sees open participation and status based on some kind conception of merit as some of the core values.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t confused culture with engineering although there are clear interactions between the two. How tools are used is culture; not the tools themselves. What is exchanged in email, blogging, virtual worlds and games, or structured (sorta) networking sites is social capital most often in the form of knowledge capital within various social networks. The sites and tools only facilitate this exchange and creation and bonding.</p>
<p>Open source and free software helped establish those values as something worthy of attention, preservation and as something practical in the longer run. What Eric Von Hippel calls a Democracy of Innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodi Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jodi Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I could, as you know write for ages about social media, which is the open source culture pushed out into our daily lives.&quot;

Contrast this to &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/11/11/beyond-social-media/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doc Searls&#039; post Beyond Social Media &lt;a&gt;. &quot;social media is something that happens on private platforms&quot; (taken a little out of context, but I think that&#039;s the crux of the problem: &quot;Social media&quot; isn&#039;t something we&#039;re doing in a distributed way, on the whole.

It&#039;s not the platforms that are open source (notwithstanding that you can get your own opensource microblogging tool: the community doesn&#039;t come along with the software). So how is social media bringing open source culture out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I could, as you know write for ages about social media, which is the open source culture pushed out into our daily lives.&#8221;</p>
<p>Contrast this to <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/11/11/beyond-social-media/" rel="nofollow">Doc Searls&#8217; post Beyond Social Media </a><a>. &#8220;social media is something that happens on private platforms&#8221; (taken a little out of context, but I think that&#8217;s the crux of the problem: &#8220;Social media&#8221; isn&#8217;t something we&#8217;re doing in a distributed way, on the whole.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the platforms that are open source (notwithstanding that you can get your own opensource microblogging tool: the community doesn&#8217;t come along with the software). So how is social media bringing open source culture out?</a></p>
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