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Re: Unintended consequences



I also was quite confused as to what exactly this meant:

Rosen: I don't think anybody has illusions about controlling all
transmissions online. The question is, How do you compete if services
available to give it away without regard to the creators are allowed to
flourish with such customer-service-friendly tools? Gnutella is a little
harder to use than Napster, but there also ways to enforce against
Gnutella users that you don't have with Napster.

How can they lock down on Gnutella users better than w/Napster? 

If I am reading this correctly, they seem to imply what James said, that
they'll use a whole bunch of lawyers to go after all the "little
fish" using Freenet and such after they've finished w/the
"user-friendly" likes of Napster and such. Won't that be amazingly
expensive not to mention tedious for them? They sue the pants off a few
people and then more will jusy pop up. Or does the RIAA have such deep
pockets/been saving up for this very plan of attack that they've got that
aspect covered?

Robyn

 On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, James S. Wilson wrote:

> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 01:17:32 -0400
> From: James S. Wilson <wilsj@ils.unc.edu>
> To: inls310-74@ruby.ils.unc.edu
> Subject: Re: Unintended consequences
> 
> So the RIAA is relying on the current user-unfriendliness of Gnutella and a
> yet-to-be-named kung fu enforcement of intellectual property rights against
> the anarchic, anonymous file sharing networks.  Does anyone know of any
> enforcement advantages that the RIAA has against Gnutella and Freenet that
> they don't have against Napster?
> 
> Curiously,
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A quote in answer to James' inquiry----
> 
> Brown: But even if you win the Napster case, there are a dozen Napster
> clones and some that are decentralized, like Gnutella. How do you plan to
> stop this?
> 
> Rosen: I don't think anybody has illusions about controlling all
> transmissions online. The question is, How do you compete if services
> available to give it away without regard to the creators are allowed to
> flourish with such customer-service-friendly tools? Gnutella is a little
> harder to use than Napster, but there also ways to enforce against Gnutella
> users that you don't have with Napster.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Jones <pjones@metalab.unc.edu>
> To: James S. Wilson <wilsj@ruby.ils.unc.edu>
> Cc: <inls310-74@ruby.ils.unc.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 12:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Unintended consequences
> 
> 
> > Here are some new postings to Salon that apply to us and specifically to
> > James' posting (see the quote i selected from the Rosen interview, then
> > see it in context).
> >
> > ARTS & ENTERTAINMENT -- MP3.com gets spanked: Judge gives record industry
> > a big win in battle against online music pioneer. By Eric Boehlert
> > http://www.salon.coment/log/2000/04/28/riaa_mp3/index.html?CP=SAL&DN=110
> >
> > plus: Technology Log: Microsplit: Justice outlines its plan for two
> > post-Microsoft companies: Office with no Windows, Windows with no Office
> > and only one of them gets Gates. By Katharine Mieszkowski
> > http://www.salon.com/tech/log/2000/04/29/breakup/index.html?CP=SAL&DN=110
> >
> > TECHNOLOGY -- View From the Top: On the record: RIAA chief Hilary Rosen
> > defends the music industry's recent litigation against Napster and
> > MP3.com. By Janelle Brown
> > http://www.salon.com/tech/view/2000/05/01/rosen/index.html?CP=SAL&DN=110
> >
> > A quote in answer to James' inquiry----
> >
> > Brown: But even if you win the Napster case, there are a dozen Napster
> > clones and some that are decentralized, like Gnutella. How do you plan to
> > stop this?
> >
> > Rosen: I don't think anybody has illusions about controlling all
> > transmissions online. The question is, How do you compete if services
> > available to give it away without regard to the creators are allowed to
> > flourish with such customer-service-friendly tools? Gnutella is a little
> > harder to use than Napster, but there also ways to enforce against
> > Gnutella users that you don't have with Napster.
> >
> >
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