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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Mon Nov  4 11:44 EST 1996
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:32:25 -0600
Message-Id: <199611041632.AA10202@crcnis1.unl.edu>
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Job Opening - Research Agronomist (Chris Butts <cbutts@asrr.arsusda.gov>)
Ag. Engineering Post Doc Position (Chris Butts <cbutts@asrr.arsusda.gov>)



Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:04:44 -0500 From: Chris Butts <cbutts@asrr.arsusda.gov> Subject: Job Opening - Research Agronomist DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE (USDA) RESEARCH, EDUCATION, AND ECONOMICS (REE) AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH (ARS) Research Agronomist, (Term appointment not to exceed 2 years), U.S. DEPARTMENT OFAGRICULTURE (USDA), RESEARCH, EDUCATION, AND ECONOMICS (REE), AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH SERVICE (ARS), NATIONAL PEANUT RESEARCH LABORATORY, Dawson, GA is seeking a research agronomist to conduct research on subsurface micro-irrigation of peanuts and rotation crops. Major objectives involve developing efficient, cost effective production systems that increase yield and improve quality while conserving water, soil and plant nutrients, and reducing pesticide residues. The research includes 1) developing management strategies for operation of subsurface micro-irrigation, 2) measuring water use requirements for field crops (peanut, cotton, corn), and 3) determining economics of subsurface micro-irrigation compared to center pivot irrigation. Candidate must possess knowledge of complex plant-soil-water relationships, computer technology, instrumentation, and laboratory techniques used to evaluate crop production systems, soil physics, soil fertility, and water quality. The applicant must have skill in statistical analysis techniques. The applicant must have the ability to communicate with farmers and to publish in archival journals and present research results in technical and professional communities. Ph.D. degreeis required. Salary is commensurate with experience GS-11/12 ($36,436 - $56,759). For further information on the research program and/or position contact Dr. Richard Cole at 912-995-7404 (email rcole@asrr.arsusda.gov). For information on application procedures contact Judy Harrington, USDA, ARS, 6305 Ivy Lane, Rm 305, Greenbelt, MD 20770-1435, (301)344-2949. Applications must include announcement No. RA-96-49L on each page and be received no later than Dec. 31, 1996 at the following address: Dr. Richard J. Cole, National Peanut Research Laboratory, 1011 Forrester Dr., Dawson, GA 31742. ARS IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER ************************************************************************ * Chris Butts * Phone: 912-995-7431 * * Agricultural Engineer * Fax: 912-995-7416 * * USDA, ARS * email: cbutts@asrr.arsusda.gov * * 1011 Forrester Dr., SE * * * Dawson, GA 31742 * WWW: http://sacs.cpes.peachnet.edu/nprl/ * * * * ************************************************************************
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:04:52 -0500 From: Chris Butts <cbutts@asrr.arsusda.gov> Subject: Ag. Engineering Post Doc Position DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE (USDA) RESEARCH, EDUCATION, AND ECONOMICS (REE) AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH (ARS) Agricultural Engineer, (Post Doctoral Research Associate), U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE (USDA), RESEARCH, EDUCATION, AND ECONOMICS (REE), AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH SERVICE (ARS), NATIONAL PEANUT RESEARCH LABORATORY, Dawson, GA is seeking an Agricultural Engineer to develop and validate expert systems for managing peanut production. Candidate must possess knowledge of Computer Science, agricultural modeling and agricultural production management of land preparation and tillage, soil fertility, cultural practices, irrigation scheduling, integrated pest control (weeds, disease, insects) and harvesting. The applicant must have the ability to communicate with farmers and to publish in archival journals and present research results in technical and professional communities. Ph.D. degree is required. Salary is commensurate with experience GS-11/12 ($36,436 - $56,759). For further information on the research program and/or position contact Jim Davidson at 912-995-7428. For information on application procedures contact Debbie Padgett at 912-386-3498. Applications must include announcement No. S-6-018 on each page and be received no later than Dec. 31, 1996 at the following address: James I. Davidson, National Peanut Research Laboratory, 1011 Forrester Dr., Dawson, GA 31742. ARS IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER ************************************************************************ * Chris Butts * Phone: 912-995-7431 * * Agricultural Engineer * Fax: 912-995-7416 * * USDA, ARS * email: cbutts@asrr.arsusda.gov * * 1011 Forrester Dr., SE * * * Dawson, GA 31742 * WWW: http://sacs.cpes.peachnet.edu/nprl/ * * * * ************************************************************************
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Thu Nov  7 07:36 EST 1996
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:23:15 -0600
Message-Id: <199611071223.AA12538@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Subject: AGMODELS-L digest 597

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Rice Models (m.d.b.young@ncl.ac.uk (Damion Young))



Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:36:47 GMT From: m.d.b.young@ncl.ac.uk (Damion Young) Subject: Rice Models Dear Agmodellers In a month's time, I will be running a workshop on crop modelling for a group of scientists in Tanzania. The main aim of the workshop will be to familiarise them with user-friendly (Windows) models developed to simulate sorghum and maize under rainwater harvesting. However, a number of participants are involved in rice research and I would therefore like to be able to try and use some of the data they will be bringing in a rice model. I am aware of the existence of models such as RICEMOD and SAWAH but have never used them. What I am looking for is a user-friendly, process-based model of rice production (preferably with a Windows interface) which will enable both the participants and I to get started within a couple of hours. I appreciate that it's unlikely that such a model exists outside my dreams but if you know of anything which even gets close to it, I would be very grateful for some information. Thank you in advance, Damion Young ______________________________________________ M Damion B Young Department of Agricultural & Environmental Science University of Newcastle upon Tyne Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 7RU, UK ______________________________________________ Tel: (+44) (0)191 222 6942 Fax: (+44) (0)191 222 5228 email: m.d.b.young@ncl.ac.uk ______________________________________________
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Fri Nov  8 10:27 EST 1996
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:14:59 -0600
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Re: Rice Models (John_P._Carbone@rohmhaas.com (John P. Carbone))
Re: Rice Models (David Casanova <dcasanova10875@webhouse.es>)



Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:08:58 -0500 From: John_P._Carbone@rohmhaas.com (John P. Carbone) Subject: Re: Rice Models Damion. While I have not used it yet, but plan to do so, you might also look into RICEWQ. The model developed by Waterborne Environmental Inc. was developed to evaluate the dissipation and runoff of agrochemicals from aquatic crops. You can contact Waterborne at the following address: Waterborne Environmental, Inc. 897-B Harrison Street, S.E. Leesburg, VA 22075 tel: 703-777-0005 email: 74213.2052@compuserv.com
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 09:58:06 +0100 From: David Casanova <dcasanova10875@webhouse.es> Subject: Re: Rice Models Dear Damion, I work on rice research in Spain. I am finishing my PhD on "rice" modelling at Wageningen Agricultural University (WAU). In fact, from tomorrow saturday (9/November) onwards you can reach me at WAU: david.casanova@staff.tpe.wau.nl At WAU, there has been a lot of research on rice and modelling. May be you have hear about the SARP project. Well, as far as I consider, there is NOT a process based model that in 2 hours you know how to use, helps you to understand rice growing, predict ..., etc!!. However, within this SARP project several models have been developed: ORYZA1 (potential production, only radiation and temperature dependance), ORYZA_N (nitrogen limited, ORYZA_W (water limited), pest, diseases, .... In any case, those models run under DOS. They are programmed in what we call a very frienly user shell (FST-Shell), that after tranlates it to Fortran. In my personal opinion, I would start with ORYZA1. It is the better tested and developed model. It was developed by Martin Kropff et al at IRRI in the Philipines. They calibrated the rice inputs for typical tropical varieties, e.g. IR72. During the last 3 years, I calibrated the rice inputs for European varieties (Tebre, Lido, Senia) and American (L-202). In any case, it is a very good model, well tested, and with a relative short time you could: (1) Introduce daily temperature and radiation of one site and predict if it is possible to grow rice, what is the potential production of the area, predict LAI developemnt, and what is going to be the maximum yield!!!. (2) Understand the rice growing pattern, physiological analysis of field experiments, etc, estimate the effects of increase CO2 concentration, estimation the effects of change in N concentration, etc!!! An important advantage of that model is that it can be used to simulate realistic yields and to assess the impact of planting date, weather, latitude, leaf N content. This is in contrast to models for potential production, that have a fixed pattern of leaf photosynthesis in time. Additionally, there is also a booklet that would help you to install, familiarize, etc!!!. Well, sorry for not being able to make all that information shorter. Kind regards,, David
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Tue Nov 12 10:25 EST 1996
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:12:32 -0600
Message-Id: <199611121512.AA05656@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Subject: AGMODELS-L digest 599

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Food production (menegot@mdp.edu.ar (200.0.182.3))



Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:01:20 -0200 From: menegot@mdp.edu.ar (200.0.182.3) Subject: Food production Hi, I'm looking for figures about food production (wheat, oat, corn) and population evolution data (worldwide), since 1900 and projections for next years. Does anyone out there know where I can find that kind of information easily (i.e. the web) ? Thanks for your help. Pablo Abbate Unidad Integrada Balcarce Argentina
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Wed Nov 13 10:25 EST 1996
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:13:17 -0600
Message-Id: <199611131513.AA08133@crcnis1.unl.edu>
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Re: Food production database (barrett_slenning@ncsu.edu (Barrett Slenning))
Re: Food production (r.e.e.jongschaap@ab.dlo.nl)
Re: Food production (Marc Vayssieres <ez007143@renoir.ucdavis.edu>)
Re: Food production (Ben Chamberlain <bchamber@iastate.edu>)
Food production (Dewi Hartkamp <D.HARTKAMP@CGNET.COM>)



Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:49:51 -0500 From: barrett_slenning@ncsu.edu (Barrett Slenning) Subject: Re: Food production database On Nov-12, menegot@mdp.edu.ar (200.0.182.3) <Pablo Abbate> asked -- >I'm looking for figures about food production (wheat, oat, corn) and >population evolution data (worldwide), since 1900 and projections for next >years. Does anyone out there know where I can find that kind of information >easily (i.e. the web) ? I don't know if it goes back in time as far as you want, but a reasonable place to start is the UN/Food & Agriculture Organization's statistical database: http://apps.fao.org/lim500/Agri_db.pl Perhaps you could get in touch with the FAOSTAT managers - they might have more data available than what they show in their website. Good luck %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% B. D. Slenning (barrett_slenning@ncsu.edu) Coordinator, Population Medicine Group Food Animal & Equine Medicine Department Box 8401, College of Veterinary Medicine N. Carolina St. Univ., Raleigh, NC 27606 USA voice: (919) 829-4324 fax: (919) 829-4317 The expressed opinions are my own - but even I don't always agree with them
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:52:40 +0000 (GMT) From: r.e.e.jongschaap@ab.dlo.nl Subject: Re: Food production Hi 2 U 2, Try the websites of the FAO: http:\\apps.fao.org\lim500\agri_db.pl Good luck!! Raymond Jongschaap --------------------------------------------------------- AB-DLO --------------------------------------------------------- DLO Research Institute for Agrobiology and Soil Fertility Dept. Grasslands and Agrosystems Analysis P.O. Box 14 NL-6700 AA Wageningen THE NETHERLANDS tel +(31) (0)317 475953 fax +(31) (0)317 475787 e-mail r.e.e.jongschaap@ab.dlo.nl ---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:16:48 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Vayssieres <ez007143@renoir.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Food production Pablo, You could check with the Worldwatch Institute, in Washington DC. They do a good job at researching these issues. They publish their database on disk with trends from the mid century onward. They may give you their sources from which you may obtain data for before 1950. Their address is wwpub@worldwatch.org (they may also have a web page). Marc. ~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~ Marc Vayssieres <mpvayssieres@ucdavis.edu> Agronomy and Range Science (916) 758-3969 University of California, Davis (916) 752-5968 DAVIS, CA. 95616 ~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:49:52 -0600 From: Ben Chamberlain <bchamber@iastate.edu> Subject: Re: Food production Hi Please unsubscribe bchamber@iastate.edu Thank you. ______________________ Ben Chamberlain UDA Entertainment Chair Sophomore, Ag Studies Helser 2667 Brown Ames, Iowa 50012 - 0002 (515) 296-5541 Homepage http://www.public.iastate.edu/~bchamber
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:45:03 -0600 From: Dewi Hartkamp <D.HARTKAMP@CGNET.COM> Subject: Food production Hello Have you seen the FAO book: World Agriculture towards 2010. I think you will find a lot of info there. They may have a web site, I,m not sure. Dewi Hartkamp CIMMYT Mexico ---------- From: 200.0.182.3[SMTP:menegot@mdp.edu.ar] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 9:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Food production Hi, I'm looking for figures about food production (wheat, oat, corn) and population evolution data (worldwide), since 1900 and projections for next years. Does anyone out there know where I can find that kind of information easily (i.e. the web) ? Thanks for your help. Pablo Abbate Unidad Integrada Balcarce Argentina
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Fri Nov 15 12:58 EST 1996
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:45:42 -0600
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Postdoctoral Job Opportunity (Dennis C Flanagan <flanagan@ecn.purdue.edu>)



Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis C Flanagan <flanagan@ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: Postdoctoral Job Opportunity To all: Seth Dabney at the USDA-ARS National Sedimentation Laboratory in Oxford, MS is looking for a Post-doc to work on modeling of stiff-grass hedges. If you or someone you know is interested, please contact Seth directly. Thanks. Dennis Flanagan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- POSITION: Postdoctoral Research Associate Agricultural Engineer/Soil Scientist/Geographer GS 11/12 ($36,426 - $43,658) position available after January 15, 1997 LOCATION: USDA-Agricultural Research Service National Sedimentation Laboratory Oxford, Mississippi DESCRIPTION OF DUTIES: The incumbent is responsible for developing and evaluating a computer model to assess the impact of stiff-grass hedges in reducing soil erosion and runoff. Specifically, incumbent will (a) adapt computer runoff/erosion models to predict the long-term effects of stiff-grass hedges on landscape evolution and validate predictions against existing datasets, (b) assess landscape evolution effects on subsequent hedge performance and crop productivity; and (c) develop a user-friendly computerized design tool for determining grass hedge dimensions and spacing based on topography, design discharge, vegetation characteristics, soil characteristics, tillage system, and needed degree of contaminant trapping. SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS: PhD in a relevant field. Experience with computer modeling. Understanding of erosion and sediment transport processes. Knowledge of field scale runoff and erosion models (eg. WEPP, APEX, etc.). Familiarity with applied statistical and topographic survey techniques. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Seth M. Dabney USDA-ARS-NSL P.O. Box 1157 Oxford, MS 38655 601-232-2975 (voice) 601-232-2915 (fax) EMAIL: dabney@gis.sedlab.olemiss.edu USDA is an equal opportunity employer and encourages applications from qualified women, minorities, and persons from underrepresented groups.
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Sat Nov 16 12:58 EST 1996
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:45:59 -0600
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food production (menegot@mdp.edu.ar (200.0.182.3))



Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:07:50 -0200 From: menegot@mdp.edu.ar (200.0.182.3) Subject: food production Thanks you all for the answers to my question about food production. Pablo Abbate Unidad Integrada Balcarce
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Sun Nov 17 12:59 EST 1996
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:46:10 -0600
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Re: food production (Ray Hunter <rhunter@jumppoint.com>)
Re: spam production (Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net>)



Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:43:44 -0800 From: Ray Hunter <rhunter@jumppoint.com> Subject: Re: food production Help me please! I've been spammed onto this email list and I need to get off. Please email me instructions to do so. Ray Hunter
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:14:02 -0500 From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> Subject: Re: spam production Ray Hunter wrote: > > Help me please! > > I've been spammed onto this email list and I need to get off. > Please email me instructions to do so. > > me too -- Larry Pendarvis http://www.Filipina.com Mail Order Brides from the Philippines "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." -- C. Montgomery Burns
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Mon Nov 18 13:11 EST 1996
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:57:30 -0600
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 (Alexandre H C Barros <ahcb96@it.com.br>)



Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:12:10 -0300 From: Alexandre H C Barros <ahcb96@it.com.br> Subject: I would like to receive informations, if possible, about groups in agmodels. How can I participate any specific group ? I would like to know how can I get any public programs, files, etc. about crop models. Thanks. Alexandre H C Barros Empresa Pernambucana de Pesquisa Agropecuaria - IPA Laboratorio de Meteorologia e Recursos Hidricos de Pernambuco - LAMEPE LAMEPE/IPA Brazil. Ps. I am sorry my write english.
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Tue Nov 19 13:19 EST 1996
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:05:54 -0600
Message-Id: <199611191805.AA20058@crcnis1.unl.edu>
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Re: Spam production (Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net>)
Re:  (rnelson@mail.wsu.edu (Roger L. Nelson))
Re:  (Ali Mermer <amermer@ucdavis.edu>)
Re: Spam production (Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net>)
Re: Invalid request (Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net>)
Re:  (Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net>)
Re: Invalid request (rama@brcsun0.tamu.edu (Ramanarayanan Tharacad))
Re: Spam production (William Powers <wjp@xdiv.lanl.gov>)
(no subject) ("Stephen W. Ragan, II" <ragan@minot.com>)
Beta-testers needed (ypachepsky@asrr.arsusda.gov)
Rice models (R.B.Matthews@cranfield.ac.uk)



Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:57:28 -0500 From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> Subject: Re: Spam production Ray Hunter wrote: > > Help me please! > > I've been spammed onto this email list and I need to get off. > Please email me instructions to do so. > So now comes Howard Clyma who tries to tell us the RIGHT way to get off this list. And I appreciate the fact that he is TRYING. But notice that there is not, anywhere that *I* can find, any mention of WHERE to put these "messages" or "requests." In the SUBJECT? In the BODY?? Is it unacceptable to put anything ELSE in the Body??? Is it unacceptable to have something in both the Subject and the Body???? It ought to be FAR EASIER to get OFF one of these things than to get shoved ONTO one. And most of them ARE fairly easy to get out of... I had to get out of a hundred when I got spammed onto a bunch, but this one is proving to be quite refractory. I suggest you get better maillist software. The truth is out there. I am hereby following the instructions he gave: unsubscribe agmodels-l There!! Now I am officially unsubscribed, right? Let's see... nothing ever worked before. But his instructions claim that that will get me out of here, since I am sending this to listserv@unl.edu. (Unless I was supposed to put that "request" in the Subject.) HERE ARE HOWARD'S SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS: ________________________________________________________________________ Attached you will find a help file from listserv@unl.edu. All messages _MUST_ be sent to this address. Follow the syntax for the unsubscribe command. If it does not unsubscribe you, it may be that your name as listed on your account is different from the name they have listed in the subscription list. Use the command for getting a list of subscribers to agmodels-l and find the way that you are listed. Using that name and address, unsubscribe yourself. Repeat, you must send all messages to listserv@unl.edu. Everything appearing in [] below is optional; everything appearing in <> is mandatory. Recognized requests are: help [topic] -------------- Without arguments, this file. Otherwise get specific information on the selected topic. Topics may also refer to requests. set <list> [<option> <value>] ----------------------------- Without the optional arguments, get a list of all current settings for the specified list. Otherwise change the option to the new value for that list. subscribe <list> <your name> ---------------------------- The only way to subscribe to a list. unsubscribe <list> (or: signoff <list>) --------------------------------------- Remove yourself from the specified list. recipients <list> (or: review <list>) ------------------------------------- Get a list of all people subscribed in the specified list. information <list> ------------------ Get information about the specified list. statistics <list> [subscriber email address(es)] ------------------------------------------------ Get a list of subscribers along with the number of messages each one of them has sent to the specified list. If the optional email addresses are given, then statistics will be collected for these users only. lists ----- Get a list of mailing lists that are served by this server. index [archive | path-to-archive] [/password] --------------------------------------------- Get a list of files in the selected archive, or the master archive if no archive was specified. get <archive | path-to-archive> <file> [/password] [parts] ---------------------------------------------------------- Get the requested file from the specified archive. Certain subparts may be obtained by specifying them as optional arguments. release ------- Get information about the current release of this listserv system. which ----- Get a listing of mailing lists to which you have subscribed. =============================================================================== The requests below are list owner specific: reports <list> <password> ------------------------- Obtain all reports about the specified list. edit <list> <password> <file> ----------------------------- Obtain the specified file for editing. put <list> <password> <keyword> [args] -------------------------------------- Manipulate addresses and change system files. approve <list> <password> <tag> ------------------------------- Approve the message identified by the tag number for posting to the specified moderated list. discard <list> <password> <tag> ------------------------------- Discard the message identified by the tag number sent to the specified moderated list. =============================================================================== __________________________________________________________________________ Whew!!! -- Larry Pendarvis http://www.Filipina.com Mail Order Brides from the Philippines "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." -- C. Montgomery Burns
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:29:24 -0800 From: rnelson@mail.wsu.edu (Roger L. Nelson) Subject: Re: >I would like to receive informations, if possible, about groups in agmodels. >How can I participate any specific group ? >I would like to know how can I get any public programs, files, etc. about >crop models. You are welcome to peruse our WWW page. http://www.bsyse.wsu.edu/cropsyst It discusses the CropSyst: Cropping System Simulation Model. You can also obtain the CropSyst software from this page. There is also a link (under "Other Agricultural models') to the "REM: WWW register of agricultural and ecological models". _____________________________________________________________________ ______________ Roger Nelson rnelson@mail.wsu.edu ____ | Washington | Biological Systems Engineering Department \ | | State | http://www.bsyse.wsu.edu/~rnelson | // University | You may reply in: | ' Pullman, WA+| Work: (509)335-1100 English, French, Esperanto, \_ _________| Home: (509)332-8387 Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, `-----'99164-6120 FAX: (509)335-2722 Italian or Spanish
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:54:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ali Mermer <amermer@ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: unsubscribe agmodel-l
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:25:20 -0500 From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> Subject: Re: Spam production *ME* waste *YOUR* time?!?!?!!?!?!? *I* am the one who is receiving shit I never asked for. You want to save your time, you tell your people to find a way to make it EASY for people to get OUT OF this list. ************************************************************ David Favis-Mortlock wrote: > > Please don't waste my time with this garbage. > > > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:11:40 -0600 > > Reply-to: agmodels-l <agmodels-l@unl.edu> > > From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> > > To: Multiple recipients of list <agmodels-l@unl.edu> > > Subject: Re: Spam production > > > Ray Hunter wrote: > > > > > > Help me please! > > > > > > I've been spammed onto this email list and I need to get off. > > > Please email me instructions to do so. > > > > > > > So now comes Howard Clyma who tries to tell us the RIGHT way to > > get off this list. > > And I appreciate the fact that he is TRYING. > > But notice that there is not, anywhere that *I* can find, any > > mention of WHERE to put these "messages" or "requests." > > In the SUBJECT? In the BODY?? > > Is it unacceptable to put anything ELSE in the Body??? > > Is it unacceptable to have something in both the Subject > > and the Body???? > > > > It ought to be FAR EASIER to get OFF one of these things than > > to get shoved ONTO one. > > And most of them ARE fairly easy to get out of... I had to > > get out of a hundred when I got spammed onto a bunch, but this > > one is proving to be quite refractory. > > I suggest you get better maillist software. > > The truth is out there. > > > > I am hereby following the instructions he gave: > > unsubscribe agmodels-l There!! Now I am > > officially unsubscribed, right? > > Let's see... nothing ever worked before. > > But his instructions claim that that will get me > > out of here, since I am sending this to listserv@unl.edu. > > (Unless I was supposed to put that "request" in the Subject.) > > > > > > HERE ARE HOWARD'S SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS: > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Attached you will find a help file from listserv@unl.edu. All > > messages > > _MUST_ be sent to this address. Follow the syntax for the unsubscribe > > command. If it does not unsubscribe you, it may be that your name as > > listed on your account is different from the name they have listed in > > the > > subscription list. Use the command for getting a list of subscribers to > > agmodels-l and find the way that you are listed. Using that name and > > address, unsubscribe yourself. Repeat, you must send all messages to > > listserv@unl.edu. > > > > Everything appearing in [] below is optional; everything appearing > > in <> is mandatory. > > > > Recognized requests are: > > > > > > help [topic] > > -------------- > > Without arguments, this file. Otherwise get specific information on the > > selected topic. Topics may also refer to requests. > > > > > > set <list> [<option> <value>] > > ----------------------------- > > Without the optional arguments, get a list of all current settings for > > the specified list. 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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:34:16 -0500 From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> Subject: Re: Invalid request listserv@unl.edu wrote: > > >Ray Hunter wrote: > > Unrecognized request RAY > > Report any problems to 'mailman@unlmail'. > For a list of the available requests send a message to listserv@unl.edu > with the word 'help' in the body of the message. > > PS: Any subsequent requests that you might have submitted have been ignored. Well GUESS WHAT, Mr. Howard Clyma, the stinkin ListServ program does *NOT* work the way you say. It is FAR TOO DIFFICULT to get off this $#%^$^& thing. And I am not going to shut up about it just because Mr. David Favis-Mortlock doesn't like it. My plight is not one of my own making, and I am astounded by the heartlessness of his response. I did not ever in my life subscribe to this list. I am being subjected to this shit through no fault of my own. For six months I have, from time to time, politely mentioned the problem. Now I get bitched at for bringing it up. May be the only way to get off this fuckin thing is to get *KICKED* off. Will that work? I have tried everything else. SHUT THE FUCK UP, Mr. David Favis-Mortlock, your list is the one spamming ME, and I'm mad as hell and guess what, FUCK OFF SHITHEAD. You glad about your stinkin listserv software now, making it hard to unsubscribe? UNSUBFUCKINGSCRIBE YOU are the ones spamming ME, can't you see that? I tried to be nice for 6 months. -- Larry Pendarvis http://www.World-Wide-Web.com "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." -- C. Montgomery Burns
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:47:53 -0500 From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> Subject: Re: Ali Mermer wrote: > > unsubscribe agmodel-l Yeah lotsa luck HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -- Larry Pendarvis http://WWW.World-Wide-Web.com root@WWW.World-Wide-Web.com "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." -- C. Montgomery Burns
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:28:29 -0600 From: rama@brcsun0.tamu.edu (Ramanarayanan Tharacad) Subject: Re: Invalid request ~ From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Tue Nov 19 01:57:13 1996 ~ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:42:17 -0600 ~ Originator: agmodels-l@unl.edu ~ Version: 5.5 -- Copyright (c) 1991/92, Anastasios Kotsikonas ~ From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> ~ To: Multiple recipients of list <agmodels-l@unl.edu> ~ Subject: Re: Invalid request ~ ~ listserv@unl.edu wrote: ~ > ~ > >Ray Hunter wrote: ~ > ~ > Unrecognized request RAY ~ > ~ > Report any problems to 'mailman@unlmail'. ~ > For a list of the available requests send a message to listserv@unl.edu ~ > with the word 'help' in the body of the message. ~ > ~ > PS: Any subsequent requests that you might have submitted have been ignored. ~ ~ Well GUESS WHAT, Mr. Howard Clyma, the stinkin ListServ ~ program does *NOT* work the way you say. ~ It is FAR TOO DIFFICULT to get off this $#%^$^& thing. ~ ~ And I am not going to shut up about it just because ~ Mr. David Favis-Mortlock doesn't like it. ~ My plight is not one of my own making, and I am ~ astounded by the heartlessness of his response. ~ I did not ever in my life subscribe to this list. ~ I am being subjected to this shit through no fault ~ of my own. ~ For six months I have, from time to time, politely ~ mentioned the problem. Now I get bitched at for ~ bringing it up. ~ ~ May be the only way to get off this fuckin thing is ~ to get *KICKED* off. Will that work? ~ I have tried everything else. ~ ~ SHUT THE FUCK UP, Mr. David Favis-Mortlock, your ~ list is the one spamming ME, and I'm mad as hell ~ and guess what, FUCK OFF SHITHEAD. ~ ~ You glad about your stinkin listserv software now, ~ making it hard to unsubscribe? ~ ~ UNSUBFUCKINGSCRIBE ~ ~ YOU are the ones spamming ME, can't you see that? ~ I tried to be nice for 6 months. ~ ~ -- ~ Larry Pendarvis ~ http://www.World-Wide-Web.com ~ ~ "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." ~ -- C. Montgomery Burns ~ Could some one please take this scum off this list. It has been yelling too long!!
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:07:04 -0700 From: William Powers <wjp@xdiv.lanl.gov> Subject: Re: Spam production Larry: I guess I don't understand. I am assuming that you wrote to listserv@unl.edu (note: I am not now sending this message to listserv@unl.edu, but I am sending it to agmodels-l@unl.edu) with the message in the BODY (this is Body) unsubscribe agmodels-l or you wrote signoff agmodels-l and the listserv came back with a response to RAY? I agree it should not be that difficult to signoff a listserv. I don't know it is possible to subscribe someone to a list, although I have heard that it is possible and that some idiots are doing this. Many lists require a verification before permission to join is granted. agmodels-l is not one of them. Please, let us know exactly what you have done and what the results were. I, for one, do not want to trap anyone on a list who does not want to be there. We come together voluntarily. If I am correct in understanding what you have done and still could not get off, I, and I hope others, will be willing to complain to the listserv to correct your problem and any such future occurrences. Much luck, and please be very specific as to what you have done, so we can be certain that it is a system problem. bill powers Los Alamos, NM
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:17:25 -0600 From: "Stephen W. Ragan, II" <ragan@minot.com> Subject: (no subject) unsubscribe agmodel-l
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 11:28:51 PST From: ypachepsky@asrr.arsusda.gov Subject: Beta-testers needed Beta-testers are needed to test a beta version of Graphic User Interface for Crop Simulators (GUICS). GUICS is a WindowsTM interface that runs under Windows 95. GUICS can support many crop models simultaneously. Visual access to all information is facilitated. GUICS displays the results in graphic, tabular, and text forms. The description of the GUICS concept is attached below. Those who are interested should send E-mail to Yakov Pachepsky using E-mail address ypachepsky@asrr.arsusda.gov ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The concept of GUICS GUICS is a Windows 95 interface to run crop simulators. There are many crop simulators available nowadays. Despite all the differences between them, they have common features that have enabled us to develop this interface. The hierarchy of information units in GUICS is based on the fact that one run of any crop simulator makes predictions for a particular combination of weather, soil, crop cultivar, and farm operations. Such a combination is referred as a scenario. Data on weather, on soil, on weed control, etc., are referred to as datasets of a scenario. Several related scenarios may be combined in a group that is called a project. Any scenario belongs to some project. Similar datasets, e.g. weather data, belong to the same data category. GUICS runs a crop simulator after arranging the input data for one or for several scenarios according to the users request. GUICS displays the results in graphic, tabular, and text forms. If several scenarios are of interest, the tables and graphs will display results of all scenarios simultaneously to facilitate a comparison of results. Several ways to visualize the results are available. A toolbar is included to simplify viewing results. Copying, deleting, and editing functions are available at all levels of the project-scenario-dataset hierarchy. Several additional functions are specific to a particular level of the hierarchy. At the scenario level, a user can vary the scenario, i.e., generate a set of scenarios differing in one dataset only. At the dataset level, calling a weather station to update the current weather dataset will eventually be possible. Each information unit (a project, a scenario, a dataset) has a name, and may have an icon and a memo. An icon is meant to simplify recognizing a unit or to symbolize essential features of a unit. A memo is a text description of a unit. The interface has a set of wizards to guide a user through all stages of project development, scenario assembly, viewing results, and editing datasets. On-line help and a guided tour will be eventually included. GUICS interacts with a crop simulator as with a stand-alone code. Scripts have to be written to plug a simulator into GUICS. The scripts describe the structure of input and output datasets specific to a particular simulator. Authors may want to modify the output of their simulators to take advantage of the capabilities of GUICS in viewing results. There is no standard in datasets for crop simulations. GUICS allows different simulators to have different datasets for the same data category, for example different soil files for the same field. GUICS has a fully object oriented design and implementation. It is open to enhancements and further development, e.g., using maps, displaying animation, using data bases to store datasets, etc. ------------------------------------- Name: yakov pachepsky E-mail: ypachepsky@asrr.arsusda.gov (yakov pachepsky) Remote Sensing and Modeling Laboratory USDA:ARS:BA:NRI:RMSL Bldg 007 Rm 008 BARC-WEST Beltsville, MD 20705 Tel 301-504-74-68 Fax 301-504-58-23 -------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:59:41 GMT0 From: R.B.Matthews@cranfield.ac.uk Subject: Rice models Damion I am back now from Tanzania, and can reply to your request about rice models. The ones that I am aware of are as follows, although it might not be exhaustive: ORYZA family of models (ORYZA1, ORYZA_W, ORYZA_N): These are all developed by the Dutch modelling group at Wageningen and are based on the SUCROS and MACROS models, and have been described in the response you had from David Casanova. They are written in Fortran in the FSE (Fortran Simulation Environment) system developed at Wageningen, so if you are familar with that they are relatively easy to use. Versions also exist in the FST system recently developed at Wageningen. There is also a "user-friendly" shell (the SARP-shell) written in FoxPro that is available to run the models with, which provides various options in pull-down menus, etc. I am not sure what the exact status of that is at the moment - originally is was a DOS based application, but there were plans to convert it to Windows, but you could probably find this out from David Casanova. CERES-Rice: This is part of the IBSNAT/DSSAT line-up of models, and uses many components from the other CERES models, although there are bits that are specific to rice, such as that describing the chemistry of puddled soils, etc. It can be run through the DSSAT shell, which makes it considerably easier to use than as a stand-alone program, but you need to have the whole system installed, which can be quite bulky. You will also need to become familiar with the DSSAT I/O formats, but these are well documented. You can get the DSSAT software from: IBSNAT, Department of Agronomy and Soil Science, University of Hawaii, 2500 Dole Street, Krauss Hall 22, Honolulu, HI 96822, USA, if you don't already have it. SIMRIW: This is a potential production model developed by Professor T Horie at Kyoto University, Japan, and is quite simple and easy to use. He was working on including the effects of N, but I am not sure what status that is at the moment. The original was written in BASIC, but he has also converted it to Fortran (to be compatible with the Wageningen FSE system). As far as I am aware, there is no shell to go with it, but you can specify various options within the model by answering a series of questions that appear on the screen in DOS mode. You could contact Professor Horie at Faculty of Agriculture, Kyoto University, Kyoto 606, Japan. TRYM: This is a model developed by Rob Williams in Australia, which again is quite simple, but seems to work well for Australian conditions, and also reasonably well for the Philippines when it was tested using data from IRRI., although I believe some adjustments were necessary! I don't know how it would work for other conditions. It does include the effects of N and has a nice user interface that makes it easy to use. I don't have a contact address, but there might be others in the AGMODELS group that do. RICESYS: This was developed by Graf et al in Switzerland (see Agricultural Systems 32:341-365; 1990) and is different in that a demographic approach is taken to describe tiller development etc. It was written to describe crop-pest interactions. Again, I don't know whether it has been developed since, but it is written in Fortran 77, and the version that I have seen wasn't all that easy to use (i.e. no interface). I assume that the RICEMOD model that you mentioned was the one developed by McMennamy & O' Toole in 1983 - it is a bit dated now, and as far as I remember, it was very specific to IRRI conditions (crop development was a function of days, not thermal time, etc.). I don't think it has been worked on since then, but I stand to be corrected. I wouldn't think that this one is very suitable. SAWAH is another one from the Wageningen stable, and is very detailed, but I haven't used it. Again you could probably find out more about it from David Casanova or others there. Hope this information is of use to you. Robin Matthews. ========================================================================= Robin Matthews Tel: +44 1525 863008 Department of Water Management Fax: +44 1525 863001 Silsoe College, Cranfield University Email: R.B.MATTHEWS@CRANFIELD.AC.UK Bedfordshire MK45 4DT Tlx: 826838 SILCAM G UNITED KINGDOM. WebPage: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rbmatthews/ =========================================================================
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Contents:
Re: Beta-testers needed. Symposium on modeling frameworks. ("Dr. Bob Caldwell" <serc018@unlvm.unl.edu>)
Re: Beta-testers needed. Symposium on modeling frameworks. (Tom Hodges <thodges@tricity.wsu.edu>)
RE: Re: Symposium on modeling frameworks. ("Dr. Bob Caldwell" <serc018@unlvm.unl.edu>)
Re: Spam production (Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net>)
Re: Invalid request (Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net>)
Re: Spam production (Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net>)
 (ploretan@Acd.Tusk.Edu (Phil Loretan))
RE: (no subject) (Luis Leopoldo Silva <llsilva@uevora.pt>)



Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:41:42 -0600 From: "Dr. Bob Caldwell" <serc018@unlvm.unl.edu> Subject: Re: Beta-testers needed. Symposium on modeling frameworks. At 07:31 AM 11/19/96 -1000, ypachepsky@asrr.arsusda.gov wrote: >Beta-testers are needed to test a beta version of Graphic User Interface for > Crop Simulators >(GUICS). GUICS is a WindowsTM interface that runs under Windows 95. >GUICS can support many crop models simultaneously. Visual access to all > information is >facilitated. GUICS displays the results in graphic, tabular, and text forms. >Those who are interested should send E-mail to Yakov Pachepsky using E-mail > address >ypachepsky@asrr.arsusda.gov Yakov, count me in as a beta tester. To all on the AG-MODELS list, Marie Fortin and I have proposed that there be a symposium at the next American Society of Agronomy meetings (Anaheim, Oct. 26 to 31, 1997) on "Frameworks for modeling and decision support systems: organization of data, models, and the user interface". A number of groups are in a position now to provide powerful software environments for modeling crops and creating decision support systems. My hope is that we can review the various options available, like the GUICS, so that those developing software can consider adopting and building on one of the frameworks. Sincerely, Bob Caldwell, Cropping Systems Specialist, Dept. of Agronomy/SEREC/NEREC University of Nebraska - Lincoln 204 Mussehl Hall, P.O. Box 830714, Lincoln, NE 68583-0714 serc018@unlvm.unl.edu Phone: (402) 472-3674. FAX: (402) 472-3858.
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:49:42 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Hodges <thodges@tricity.wsu.edu> Subject: Re: Beta-testers needed. Symposium on modeling frameworks. Bob, Has the software scene been asked to cosponsor this? Tom Hodges On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Dr. Bob Caldwell wrote: > At 07:31 AM 11/19/96 -1000, ypachepsky@asrr.arsusda.gov wrote: > >Beta-testers are needed to test a beta version of Graphic User Interface for > > Crop Simulators > >(GUICS). GUICS is a WindowsTM interface that runs under Windows 95. > >GUICS can support many crop models simultaneously. Visual access to all > > information is > >facilitated. GUICS displays the results in graphic, tabular, and text forms. > >Those who are interested should send E-mail to Yakov Pachepsky using E-mail > > address > >ypachepsky@asrr.arsusda.gov > > Yakov, count me in as a beta tester. > > To all on the AG-MODELS list, Marie Fortin and I have proposed that there be > a symposium at the next American Society of Agronomy meetings (Anaheim, Oct. > 26 to 31, 1997) on "Frameworks for modeling and decision support systems: > organization of data, models, and the user interface". A number of groups > are in a position now to provide powerful software environments for modeling > crops and creating decision support systems. My hope is that we can review > the various options available, like the GUICS, so that those developing > software can consider adopting and building on one of the frameworks. > > Sincerely, > Bob Caldwell, Cropping Systems Specialist, Dept. of Agronomy/SEREC/NEREC > University of Nebraska - Lincoln > 204 Mussehl Hall, P.O. Box 830714, Lincoln, NE 68583-0714 > serc018@unlvm.unl.edu Phone: (402) 472-3674. FAX: (402) 472-3858. > >
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:05:55 -0600 From: "Dr. Bob Caldwell" <serc018@unlvm.unl.edu> Subject: RE: Re: Symposium on modeling frameworks. At 01:47 PM 11/19/96 -0600, Tom Hodges wrote: >Bob, >Has the software scene been asked to cosponsor this [symposium on frameworks for modeling and decision support systems]? > >Tom Hodges I'm not sure yet. In communicating with John Sadler (the program representative from ASA Division A-3), we recommended a series of oral presentations, a panel discussion with extended question/answer, and a software demonstration session. I'll get an update from John and get back to you personally. Sincerely, Bob Caldwell, Cropping Systems Specialist, Dept. of Agronomy/SEREC/NEREC University of Nebraska - Lincoln 204 Mussehl Hall, P.O. Box 830714, Lincoln, NE 68583-0714 serc018@unlvm.unl.edu Phone: (402) 472-3674. FAX: (402) 472-3858.
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:22:16 -0500 From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> Subject: Re: Spam production David Favis-Mortlock wrote: > > JUST STOP WASTING MY TIME -- AND SEE AN ANALYST! > No. > > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:25:20 -0500 > > From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> > > Reply-to: un@digital.net > > To: David Favis-Mortlock <david.favismortlock@ecu.ox.ac.uk>, agmodels-l@unl.edu > > Subject: Re: Spam production > > > *ME* waste *YOUR* time?!?!?!!?!?!? > > > > *I* am the one who is receiving shit I never asked for. > > You want to save your time, you tell your people to find > > a way to make it EASY for people to get OUT OF this list. > > > > ************************************************************ > > > > > > David Favis-Mortlock wrote: > > > > > > Please don't waste my time with this garbage. > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:11:40 -0600 > > > > Reply-to: agmodels-l <agmodels-l@unl.edu> > > > > From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list <agmodels-l@unl.edu> > > > > Subject: Re: Spam production > > > > > > > Ray Hunter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Help me please! > > > > > > > > > > I've been spammed onto this email list and I need to get off. > > > > > Please email me instructions to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So now comes Howard Clyma who tries to tell us the RIGHT way to > > > > get off this list. > > > > And I appreciate the fact that he is TRYING. > > > > But notice that there is not, anywhere that *I* can find, any > > > > mention of WHERE to put these "messages" or "requests." > > > > In the SUBJECT? In the BODY?? > > > > Is it unacceptable to put anything ELSE in the Body??? > > > > Is it unacceptable to have something in both the Subject > > > > and the Body???? > > > > > > > > It ought to be FAR EASIER to get OFF one of these things than > > > > to get shoved ONTO one. > > > > And most of them ARE fairly easy to get out of... I had to > > > > get out of a hundred when I got spammed onto a bunch, but this > > > > one is proving to be quite refractory. > > > > I suggest you get better maillist software. > > > > The truth is out there. > > > > > > > > I am hereby following the instructions he gave: > > > > unsubscribe agmodels-l There!! Now I am > > > > officially unsubscribed, right? > > > > Let's see... nothing ever worked before. > > > > But his instructions claim that that will get me > > > > out of here, since I am sending this to listserv@unl.edu. > > > > (Unless I was supposed to put that "request" in the Subject.) > > > > > > > > > > > > HERE ARE HOWARD'S SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS: > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Attached you will find a help file from listserv@unl.edu. All > > > > messages > > > > _MUST_ be sent to this address. Follow the syntax for the unsubscribe > > > > command. If it does not unsubscribe you, it may be that your name as > > > > listed on your account is different from the name they have listed in > > > > the > > > > subscription list. Use the command for getting a list of subscribers to > > > > agmodels-l and find the way that you are listed. Using that name and > > > > address, unsubscribe yourself. Repeat, you must send all messages to > > > > listserv@unl.edu. > > > > > > > > Everything appearing in [] below is optional; everything appearing > > > > in <> is mandatory. > > > > > > > > Recognized requests are: > > > > > > > > > > > > help [topic] > > > > -------------- > > > > Without arguments, this file. Otherwise get specific information on the > > > > selected topic. Topics may also refer to requests. > > > > > > > > > > > > set <list> [<option> <value>] > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > Without the optional arguments, get a list of all current settings for > > > > the specified list. Otherwise change the option to the new value for > > > > that > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > subscribe <list> <your name> > > > > ---------------------------- > > > > The only way to subscribe to a list. > > > > > > > > > > > > unsubscribe <list> (or: signoff <list>) > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Remove yourself from the specified list. > > > > > > > > > > > > recipients <list> (or: review <list>) > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > Get a list of all people subscribed in the specified list. > > > > > > > > > > > > information <list> > > > > ------------------ > > > > Get information about the specified list. > > > > > > > > > > > > statistics <list> [subscriber email address(es)] > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > Get a list of subscribers along with the number of messages each one > > > > of them has sent to the specified list. If the optional email addresses > > > > are given, then statistics will be collected for these users only. > > > > > > > > > > > > lists > > > > ----- > > > > Get a list of mailing lists that are served by this server. > > > > > > > > > > > > index [archive | path-to-archive] [/password] > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > Get a list of files in the selected archive, or the master archive if > > > > no archive was specified. > > > > > > > > > > > > get <archive | path-to-archive> <file> [/password] [parts] > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Get the requested file from the specified archive. Certain subparts may > > > > be obtained by specifying them as optional arguments. > > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > ------- > > > > Get information about the current release of this listserv system. > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > ----- > > > > Get a listing of mailing lists to which you have subscribed. > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== > > > > > > > > The requests below are list owner specific: > > > > > > > > > > > > reports <list> <password> > > > > ------------------------- > > > > Obtain all reports about the specified list. > > > > > > > > > > > > edit <list> <password> <file> > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > Obtain the specified file for editing. > > > > > > > > > > > > put <list> <password> <keyword> [args] > > > > -------------------------------------- > > > > Manipulate addresses and change system files. > > > > > > > > > > > > approve <list> <password> <tag> > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > Approve the message identified by the tag number for posting to the > > > > specified moderated list. > > > > > > > > > > > > discard <list> <password> <tag> > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > Discard the message identified by the tag number sent to the specified > > > > moderated list. > > > > =============================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whew!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Larry Pendarvis > > > > http://www.Filipina.com > > > > Mail Order Brides from the Philippines > > > > > > > > "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." > > > > -- C. Montgomery Burns > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > Dr David Favis-Mortlock Phone: +44 (0)1865 281180 > > > University of Oxford Fax: +44 (0)1865 281181 > > > Environmental Change Unit > > > 5 South Parks Road > > > Oxford OX1 3UB, United Kingdom > > > > -- > > Larry Pendarvis > > http://www.Filipina.com > > Mail Order Brides from the Philippines > > > > "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." > > -- C. Montgomery Burns > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Dr David Favis-Mortlock Phone: +44 (0)1865 281180 > University of Oxford Fax: +44 (0)1865 281181 > Environmental Change Unit > 5 South Parks Road > Oxford OX1 3UB, United Kingdom >
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:24:50 -0500 From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> Subject: Re: Invalid request Ramanarayanan Tharacad wrote: > > ~ From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Tue Nov 19 01:57:13 1996 > ~ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:42:17 -0600 > ~ Originator: agmodels-l@unl.edu > ~ Version: 5.5 -- Copyright (c) 1991/92, Anastasios Kotsikonas > ~ From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> > ~ To: Multiple recipients of list <agmodels-l@unl.edu> > ~ Subject: Re: Invalid request > ~ > ~ listserv@unl.edu wrote: > ~ > > ~ > >Ray Hunter wrote: > ~ > > ~ > Unrecognized request RAY > ~ > > ~ > Report any problems to 'mailman@unlmail'. > ~ > For a list of the available requests send a message to listserv@unl.edu > ~ > with the word 'help' in the body of the message. > ~ > > ~ > PS: Any subsequent requests that you might have submitted have been ignored. > ~ > ~ Well GUESS WHAT, Mr. Howard Clyma, the stinkin ListServ > ~ program does *NOT* work the way you say. > ~ It is FAR TOO DIFFICULT to get off this $#%^$^& thing. > ~ > ~ And I am not going to shut up about it just because > ~ Mr. David Favis-Mortlock doesn't like it. > ~ My plight is not one of my own making, and I am > ~ astounded by the heartlessness of his response. > ~ I did not ever in my life subscribe to this list. > ~ I am being subjected to this shit through no fault > ~ of my own. > ~ For six months I have, from time to time, politely > ~ mentioned the problem. Now I get bitched at for > ~ bringing it up. > ~ > ~ May be the only way to get off this fuckin thing is > ~ to get *KICKED* off. Will that work? > ~ I have tried everything else. > ~ > ~ SHUT THE FUCK UP, Mr. David Favis-Mortlock, your > ~ list is the one spamming ME, and I'm mad as hell > ~ and guess what, FUCK OFF SHITHEAD. > ~ > ~ You glad about your stinkin listserv software now, > ~ making it hard to unsubscribe? > ~ > ~ UNSUBFUCKINGSCRIBE > ~ > ~ YOU are the ones spamming ME, can't you see that? > ~ I tried to be nice for 6 months. > ~ > ~ -- > ~ Larry Pendarvis > ~ http://www.World-Wide-Web.com > ~ > ~ "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." > ~ -- C. Montgomery Burns > ~ > > Could some one please take this scum off this list. > It has been yelling too long!! Yes please just kill me... That's all I have been asking for. -- Larry Pendarvis root@WWW.World-Wide-Web.com
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:35:53 -0500 From: Larry Pendarvis <un@digital.net> Subject: Re: Spam production William Powers wrote: > > I guess I don't understand. > > I am assuming that you wrote to > > listserv@unl.edu > > (note: I am not now sending this message to listserv@unl.edu, > but I am sending it to agmodels-l@unl.edu) > > with the message in the BODY (this is Body) > > unsubscribe agmodels-l > > or you wrote > > signoff agmodels-l > > and the listserv came back with a response to RAY? > > In fact, I SHOWED what I was doing, by sending the request to the agmodels-l@unl.edu in addition to the listserv@unl.edu. What you saw was what the listserv replied. It did that, I believe, because I had sent my request during a reply to another message, so that my complete message began with >Ray ..... Now, as you said above, I *DID* put the correct request in the body. But, since no one (including you) ever said that it must be the FIRST (or maybe ONLY???) line in the message, I put it several lines down, during my rant. This does not work. At the time, I did not even know that it had to be in the BODY at all, I thought it possible that the Subject was the correct location. Now I know WHERE to put it, and I am guessing that it will work if I put the request at the TOP of my message, and do not put anything ELSE in my message. Now I have to try all combinations of Subject (blank, "none", "unsubscribe," etc.), and I have to try it with and without a carriage return or line feed after the Request... but I now think I will probably be able to be gone in a few days or weeks. The bad news is, you won't have Larry to kick around any more, and you'll have to get back to productive work. :-) Thanks for the civilized reply. -- Larry Pendarvis root@WWW.World-Wide-Web.com "Hey, this isn't rocket science, it's only brain surgery." -- C. Montgomery Burns
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:12:02 -0600 (CST) From: ploretan@Acd.Tusk.Edu (Phil Loretan) Subject: AGMODELS-L Discussion Group My name is Phil Loretan at the George Washington Carver Agricultural Experiment Station at Tuskegee University, Tuskegee, AL 36088. I am the coordinator of our NASA Center here at TU which is presently titled: Center for Food Production, Processing and Waste Management for Controlled Ecological Life Support Systems. After January 1st, the name will change to: Center for Food and Environmental Systems for Human Exploration of Space (CFESH). We work primarily with sweetpotatoes and peanuts in controlled environment hydroponics trying to ascertain the optimum environmental conditions for growth and yield of these crops in preparation for growing them as a food source on long term space missions. As an integral part of this effort, we are working to develop and validate a sweetpotato model for controlled environments as well as to adapt a peanut model which was developed for field conditions to controlled environment hydroponics. We would welcome suggestions on either or both of these topics. We are also looking for a postdoctoral/research associate to assist us in this challenging research. Anyone interested in applying for a position on our team can E-Mail me or contact me at: (Tel) 334-727-8129 or (Fax) 334-724-4451.
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:51:42 +-100 From: Luis Leopoldo Silva <llsilva@uevora.pt> Subject: RE: (no subject) Dear Stephen To unsubscribe this list you must send a mail to listserv@unl.edu and write in it unsubscribe agmodels-l Good Luck begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(C0(`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`!0!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```$,`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!A9VUO9&5L;_P`*`0\"%0*H!>L"@P!0`O()`@!C M: K
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:44:00 -0200 From: menegot@mdp.edu.ar (200.0.182.3) Subject: Re: food production >Help me please! > >I've been spammed onto this email list and I need to get off. >Please email me instructions to do so. > > >Ray Hunter > > Hello Ray, To unsubscribe from the list, send mail to "listserv@unl.edu" with the next messaje only: unsubscribe agmodels-l Pablo Abbate
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>From root@crcnis1.unl.edu Fri Nov 22 16:01 EST 1996
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European Conference (Mark Varner <varner@umd5.umd.edu>)
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:21:37 -0800 (PST) From: Colin Gilboy <colin@specs-online.com> Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe colin@specs-online.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:49:44 +-100 From: Luis Leopoldo Silva <llsilva@uevora.pt> Subject: RE: unsubscribe To unsubcribe you must send a mail to listserv@unl.edu and write in it unsubscribe agmodels-l@unl.edu begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(C8(`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`!0!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```$,`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!A9VUO9&5LET%1$T1T(*J`""O0P0D```>`!X,`0````4```!3 M3510`````!X`'PP!````$@```&QL<VEL=F% =65V;W)A+G!T`````P`&$/>& M?FD#``<050```!X`"! !````5@```%1/54Y354)#4DE"15E/54U54U1314Y$ M04U!24Q43TQ)4U1315)60%5.3$5$54%.1%=2251%24Y)5%5.4U5"4T-224)% M04=-3T1%3%,M3$!53DQ%1%4````"`0D0`0```-X```#:````8P$``$Q:1G6- M-FY6_P`*`0\"%0*H!>L"@P!0`O()`@!C: K \0!P'3!W!1 3T"!["X ? MP'0*A1O#!/(<06'"9P1B;',M;!YV"H4%%V$`(R ```,`$! ``````P`1$ `` M``! ``<P0+B9[U'8NP% ``@P0+B9[U'8NP$>`#T``0````4```!213H@```` #`&6( ` end
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:10:53 -0800 (PST) From: Colin Gilboy <colin@specs-online.com> Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe agmodels-l@unl.edu
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:48:12 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Varner <varner@umd5.umd.edu> Subject: European Conference Check out the following conference. A nice time to visit Denmark First European Conference for Information Technology in Agriculture The Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University Copenhagen, Denmark 15-18 June 1997 www.efita.dk/conf Mark Varner varner@umd5.umd.edu http://www.wam.umd.edu/~markv Univ. of Maryland
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) From: Colin Gilboy <colin@specs-online.com> Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe colin@specs-online.com
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:25:44 -0600 (CST) From: jp@unlinfo.unl.edu (jerome pier) Subject: Sorry for my inattention Dear Agmodelers, Please pardon my lack of attention to the mad raver, Larry Pendarvis. I have removed him from the list. I would prefer those who are having trouble unsubscribing from the list to send me a private email with the SUBJECT: Trouble unsubscribing from AGMODELS-L and include your full name and the address from which you subscribed. Many people get stuck on the list due to the wonderful world of mail routers which strip out the computer host name and this confounds the heck out of the very literal minded listserver software. Can't someone write a fuzzy logic listserver which can take care of such trivialities? Once again I apologize for not paying closer attention to this very offensive person who clearly disturbed many of you. He certainly got our attention didn't he *grin*. -- Sincerely, Jerome Pier Soil Scientist/Agronomist Netafim Irrigation, Inc. jpier@interramp.com
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 19:21:21 +0300 From: setna@starnet.net.ar Subject: unsubscribe agmodels-l@unl.edu
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:13:17 1 From: "Franco SOTTE" <sotte@deanovell.unian.it> Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe sotte@deanovell.unian.it
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 7:56:27 MST From: Paul Erickson <pmeric@gov.nt.ca> Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe agmodels-l@unl.edu
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:22:22 MST From: Paul Erickson <pmeric@gov.nt.ca> Subject: raving Mad I got such a laugh out of this whole thing. Was telling a friend about this and couln't keep a straight face. Kept breaking into laughter...this poor sole... I think I have to go ..spontaeneous laughter got the best of me.
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