20040219.qrp v03_n202.qrl.20040219 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:03:13 EST From: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: QRP-L digest 3202 QRP-L Digest 3202 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) [168539] QRP-L by "Maurice Haynes" 2) [168540] Elmer 160 & PIC-EL by Jean Jibouleau 3) [168541] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by "Lee Bahr" 4) [168542] Re: The future of QRP-L by "Dale Anderson \(KB0VCC\)" 5) [168543] Re: Goodbye QRP-l , thanks Jim , and a question by George Fremin III 6) [168544] KITS: AT SPRINT II by Steven Weber 7) [168545] Next kit offering by Steven Weber 8) [168546] Re: The future of QRP-L by George Fremin III 9) [168547] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l by John Sielke 10) [168548] Re: [ke4ma] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? by "Mark Andrews \(KE4MA\)" 11) [168549] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l by John Sielke 12) [168550] Re: Goodbye QRP-l , thanks Jim , and a question by ed miller 13) [168551] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l by John Sielke 14) [168552] Re: Too Many Chiefs? by "Lee Bahr" 15) [168553] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l by John Sielke 16) [168554] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? by "Lee Bahr" 17) [168555] Re: Next kit offering by Bob KB2FEL 18) [168556] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? by Bob KB2FEL 19) [168557] Thanks Jim Eshelman and QRP-L for the Memories by "Freeberg, Scott (STP)" 20) [168558] Re: Next kit offering by "sjolin" 21) [168559] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l by "sjolin" 22) [168560] Re: Next kit offering by "richqrp" 23) [168561] Current Draw on Tenna Dipper by "Stephen Finch" 24) [168562] Re: Calling Ones Boss by "Chris Trask" 25) [168563] Thanks Jim! by "Doc - W5TB" 26) [168564] QRP Hall of Fame - A reminder by "Ken Evans" 27) [168565] Re: QRP-F vs QRP-L on QSL.NET by Karl Larsen 28) [168566] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by Karl Larsen 29) [168567] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice by "Trevor Jacobs" 30) [168568] Re: The future of QRP-L & Education by "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" 31) [168569] Re: Next kit offering by Karl Larsen 32) [168570] QRP-Demise by Michael Goins 33) [168571] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by "Charles Mabbott" 34) [168572] RE: QRP-Demise by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 35) [168573] RE: The future of QRP-L & Education by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 36) [168574] Re: [RE: The Truth about Yahoo] by Michael Goins 37) [168575] Fox - Fox Hunt Teams Results... by "rattray" 38) [168576] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by John Sielke 39) [168577] Fox - Fox Hunt Teams Results... by "rattray" 40) [168578] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by "Bill Rowlett" 41) [168579] Re: QRP-Demise by "Ken Evans" 42) [168580] Re: Bug prices by 43) [168581] Re: [Re: QRP-Demise] by Michael Goins 44) [168582] Re: QRP-F vs QRP-L on QSL.NET by "Thom R. Lacosta" 45) [168583] Re: The future of QRP-L by Bob Nielsen 46) [168584] Re: Next kit offering by "Bob Schreibmaier" 47) [168585] Re: The future of QRP-L by jsb@digistar.com 48) [168586] Re: Current Draw on Tenna Dipper by Steven Weber 49) [168587] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by Rob Matherly 50) [168588] [F/S] Elecraft K2 #02289 by Chuck Adams 51) [168589] Calling Boss by "Francis Callahan" 52) [168590] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice by "Paul , VE1DY" 53) [168591] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by John Oppenheimer 54) [168592] Re: AZ ScQRPion Paddle Update by jsb@digistar.com 55) [168593] Re: Current Draw on Tenna Dipper by "Paul , VE1DY" 56) [168594] Re: [F/S] Elecraft K2 #02289 by "Paul , VE1DY" 57) [168595] QRP-L at QSL.NET by Karl Larsen 58) [168596] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? by "Paul , VE1DY" 59) [168597] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by KD5NWA 60) [168598] CQ VE1CHS/W0 by Bob KB2FEL 61) [168599] Our PIC-EL Building and Learning Group by "James P. Osburn, P.E." 62) [168600] FW: Re: The Truth about Yahoo by "Jeff Hahn" 63) [168601] Re: The Truth about Yahoo by Philip L Carter 64) [168602] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice by Nelson Winter 65) [168603] 21.070 by "Fred \(VE3FAL\)" 66) [168604] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice by Bob Nielsen 67) [168605] Re: 21.070 by Rob Matherly 68) [168606] RE: 21.070 by "David LeDuc" 69) [168607] Re: 21.070 by Karl Larsen 70) [168608] [QRP-L]: failure notice -- new subscriber overload? by Chuck Carpenter 71) [168609] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice by "Mike Lyness, AF4LQ" 72) [168610] FT-817 help needed by "John" 73) [168611] Re: 21.070 by Tom Sevart 74) [168612] Ridiculous!!!!! by "Brian Riley (maillist)" 75) [168613] Subscribe by Jim Stiles 76) [168614] qrp-l on qsl.net by Karl Larsen 77) [168615] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice by "Trevor Jacobs" 78) [168616] rebuilding HW8 bandswitch by "john gabbard" 79) [168617] RE: Ridiculous!!!!! by "John Cook" 80) [168618] Re: Ridiculous!!!!! by Charles Coffee 81) [168619] Re: FT-817 help needed by Karl Larsen 82) [168620] Re: Next kit offering by KD5NWA 83) [168621] Re: FT-817 help needed by "John" 84) [168622] Emergency Field Kit by ARDUJENSKI@aol.com 85) [168623] Re: QRP-L at QSL.NET by "George, W5YR" 86) [168624] Do I need a new soldering iron? by "Jason Hsu" 87) [168625] DDS Daughter Card by "John" 88) [168626] qrp-l and qsl.net by Karl Larsen 89) [168627] by ultrafixedwing@juno.com 90) [168628] Re: The future of QRP-L by "George, W5YR" 91) [168629] Re: Emergency Field Kit by Howard Oakley 92) [168630] Re: Emergency Field Kit by "John_Evans" 93) [168631] New QRP List? by "Bob Hightower" 94) [168632] by "George, W5YR" 95) [168633] BUT ED... U DON'T UNDERSTAND by Joel M Denison 96) [168634] Re: Do I need a new soldering iron? by "Mike WA8BXN" 97) [168635] FOX: W8RU Final Fox Log by Ron Majewski 98) [168636] Re: New QRP List? by Karl Larsen 99) [168637] Re: Next kit offering by "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" 100) [168638] Re: your mail by Karl Larsen 101) [168639] Re: Elmer 160 by "Craig Johnson" 102) [168640] Re: Do I need a new soldering iron? by Bruce Muscolino 103) [168641] Re: QRP-L at QSL.NET by Karl Larsen 104) [168642] RX and TX oscillator settings by "Joseph Trombino Jr" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:11:45 -0700 From: "Maurice Haynes" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168539] QRP-L Message-ID: <009b01c3f70b$75284460$84e8fea9@bud> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After reading all of the posts since Jim's announcement, I can honestly say that I clearly see why he decided to abandon this list. Bud - KV7G - Yuma, AZ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:02:03 -0500 From: Jean Jibouleau To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168540] Elmer 160 & PIC-EL Message-ID: <000e01c3f70b$51d4b020$6196a98e@ve2ghi1> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello everyone, My PIC-EL kit is complete now and I am going to the test stage. It feel good. We will see it the little baby is alive later. For now I wonder .... Do you use some kind of box for the PIC-EL ? Does not seem practical to use a box, unless the cover is open !!! For now my kit will run on 12V gellcell battery. Does someone could tell me the average current use by the PIC-EL Maybe I could put it on a plastic plate with a small battery. Tell me what you did with your PIC-EL 73 de Jean (VE2GHI) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:12:27 -0600 From: "Lee Bahr" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168541] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: <006b01c3f70b$8e78fae0$dd43993f@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you want to filter all my junk mail I am getting on Yahoo because my address is leaking out to the whole world from lists I have joined there? If we go Yahoo, I'm out of here! We have plenty of alternative choices light years better then Yahoo Groups. I do not have worry of Yahoo, just contempt and experience with them! They will not be my alternative. Lee, w0vt . > > Many people on this list have expressed a real worry about the > Yahoo lists. This is un-founded. A Yahoo list can be moderated. When you > join the list you can ask for the messages to be sent to you as > individual or a daily bunch of them. You can send a message to the list > just like you do now with QRP-L. > > Yahoo is on the Nazdac exchange and it makes money. It makes > some of it putting ads for ink and other stuff at the end of your > messages. If you choose any other list server they will either charge > you, or eat the cost themselves. Nothing is free. > > There are a lot of ham radio lists already on Yahoo and they > work just like QRP-L. So do not be afraid of Yahoo. > > -- > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:15:43 -0500 From: "Dale Anderson \(KB0VCC\)" To: Subject: [168542] Re: The future of QRP-L Message-ID: <000301c3f70c$01b6c7d0$6501a8c0@HPNotebook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all your hard work over the years, Jim. You deserve nothing but praise. I've been reading QRP-L since 1994, which predates my license by two years! It is the enthusiasm that was shared here over the years which challenged me to become licensed and upgrade rapidly to Extra, so long ago. Yes, this group has changed. It started a few years ago when some obviously deeply-disturbed narcissistic individuals, threatened by the technical and professional expertise of some top-notch QRPers, started to drive away the core members lieu of the therapy they so badly needed. Now it has come to THIS! Sure, there are other QRP "watering holes" out there, but this one was the HUB of the wheel. This is a tragic loss to the QRP community. Hopefully the archives will remain preserved on-line by someone. There's a gold-mine of great technical and operational discussions in there. Those of you who are new to this soon-to-be-defunct list, would serve yourself well to read through some of the archives before they disappear. You will see what a warm, enthusiastic, tolerant, and supportive place QRP-L once was. And with a little research, it becomes obvious just who the malignant members were that brought the list to its demise. Jim should be canonized for his near-limitless tolerance over the years, where others would have sooner walked away. We all owe him our gratitude and respect for keeping the dream of QRP-L alive for as long as he has. 73/72, Dale P.S. Still keepin' my QRP-L #91 in my sig' file, so there! Plllllpttttttt! ========================================================= Dale Anderson, KB0VCC In the Mt Washington Valley QRP-L #91 / QRP-NE #600 Conway, New Hampshire ARS #234 / FISTS #3172 Grid Sq: FN43kx CQC #251 / QRP-ARCI #11446 http://www.qsl.net/kb0vcc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:19:02 -0600 From: George Fremin III To: "Brockwell, Stephen E. CECOM SEC FSSE GPI" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168543] Re: Goodbye QRP-l , thanks Jim , and a question Message-ID: <20040219171902.GC3239@kkn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 10:59:51AM -0600, Brockwell, Stephen E. CECOM SEC FSSE GPI wrote: > > Will there be any kind of archive CD of the list like we had before? You have several choices - go here and grab all the messages. http://listserv.lehigh.edu/lists/qrp-l/archives.html I think Jim said the archives and such will stay where they are: I also have an archive of all the messages here: http://www.kkn.net/archives//html/QRP-L/ I plan on keeping these where they are and I will cointinue to archive the next "QRP-L" since I find that having a searchable archive is very useful. -- George Fremin III - K5TR geoiii@kkn.net http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:27:39 -0500 From: Steven Weber To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168544] KITS: AT SPRINT II Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040219122739.007b7dc0@mailhost.ncia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Was going to wait to announce this, but can't anymore! I've ordered boards and started to buy parts for the new AT Sprint II rig. I hope to begin shipping the kits by early April. Please let me know if you definatly want one of these rigs, even if you expessed interest before. Info about the rig can be found on my web page, Thanks, 72, Steve, KD1JV "Melt Solder" White Mountains of New Hampshire http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:36:13 -0500 From: Steven Weber To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168545] Next kit offering Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040219123613.007ba4a0@mailhost.ncia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here's a heads up on the next kit I plan on developing for this coming summer. It will be a test box for working on QRP rigs. It will intergrate a number of test functions into one box. 1. 10 watt dummy load 2. RF power meter 3. RF volt meter 4. Frequency counter 5. AF signal generator 6. Possibly pervisions for adding a NJQRP DDS daughter board for RF signal generation 7. Suggestions for additional functions welcome. 72, Steve, KD1JV "Melt Solder" White Mountains of New Hampshire http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:21:13 -0600 From: George Fremin III To: "Dale Anderson (KB0VCC)" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168546] Re: The future of QRP-L Message-ID: <20040219172112.GD3239@kkn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 12:15:43PM -0500, Dale Anderson (KB0VCC) wrote: > Hopefully the archives will remain preserved on-line by someone. I do not plan on removing them from here: http://www.kkn.net/archives//html/QRP-L/ > archives before they disappear. You will see what a warm, > enthusiastic, tolerant, and supportive place QRP-L once was. There is some great stuff in them. -- George Fremin III - K5TR geoiii@kkn.net http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:24:13 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168547] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l Message-ID: <4034F13D.2050808@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Who called Jim's boss? Could it have been a >disgruntled alumnus, with an axe to grind? Someone >whose posts were at least one of the major reasons the >list had to be moderated? Here's a post from the QRP >list at zerobeat, from last Summer: > >From: W2AGN > I would indeed be careful Lloyd. I had considered telling the Alumni Association to stuff it. This was after some VERY nasty personal email from todays wounded hero. However, I did not, nor did I make the offending phone call. However, I do agree that moderating a Ham Radio list while being paid by Lehigh University WAS inappropriate. The list NEVER HAD to be moderated. A few whiners and crybabies sent email to Eschleman complaining about the nasty people, and he stepped in. It is quite obvious he enjoyed the power trip of moderating a list with 4000+ members. If people took responsibility themselves, deleted what they didn't like, and didn't expect someone else to censor their mail, etc, much like we do with the "V-Chip" on TV, there would never have been a problem. There are always a few who have to have somebody else, whether it be a moderator, a teacher, or the government make their decisions for them, and "pre-chew" everything they consume. Anyway, as much as I hate lawyers, if you would like to come right out and say what you want to above, we can have a nice little lawsuit on the side. John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:26:28 -0600 From: "Mark Andrews \(KE4MA\)" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168548] Re: [ke4ma] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? Message-ID: <009701c3f70d$82d2bb70$a16e640a@vitalworks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can give one. This site is hosted by an individual and is funded primarily by donations. If he were to suddenly get tired of doing the job or, god-forbid, be stricken with illness, it could go away very quickly. I know that QSL.net and QTH.net have been around for some time now, but so has QRP-L been around on Lehigh.edu for quite a while; things change, sometimes very quickly. I have nothing against Al, but QSL.net is a labor of love and other than personal comittment, he has no reason to continue operation tomorrow if he so choses. For personal web pages and small groups, it is a great deal. For such a large group as this, I would like something a little more "stable" (for lack of a better word). Like most of you, I like the email list approach. Even though I belong to QRP-F, I don't like having to go to the website to post a message. With QRP-L and Yahoo! groups, I can post a message from my cell phone if I'm in the car or otherwise away from my computer. 73, Mark - KE4MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- "If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of those ways can result in a catastrophe, someone will do it." - Murphy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:51 AM Subject: [ke4ma] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? > > So, is it agreed then that QRP-L will be moving over to the alternate > > site at QTH.NET? If so, when will this take place? I don't want to > > miss any of the postings. There are excellent people on the current > > list and I'm hoping they don't bail on us. I've learned more from QRP-L > > than I ever could have imagined. > > > > Doug VA7DD > > Hey Doug and the gang; > > Apply now, it can't hurt to apply early and thereby get approved early on. > > BTW, so far no-one has come up with a good reason to avoid using this > previously setup alternative site at qth.net . A bunch of decent reasons > to avoid other proposed solutions have appeared. None so far for qth.net . > (At least *decent* ones <- IMHO) > > Just an observation. > > Flame suit on (as always - hi hi). > > OH YEAH - I just bet Jim E. is having lots of fun watching the tug of war > over this. > > > Vy 72; > > Bob > w9ya > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:26:49 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168549] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l Message-ID: <4034F1D9.9050300@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Lloyd Lachow wrote: > >> Who called Jim's boss? Could it have been a >> disgruntled alumnus, with an axe to grind? Someone >> whose posts were at least one of the major reasons the >> list had to be moderated? Here's a post from the QRP >> list at zerobeat, from last Summer: > >Man....why not just hang folks in public? If you had real guts, >you could have emailed John directly, couldn't you? > >Thom > You expect guts from the guy that, puffing his chest out, told everyone how he "told me off face to face" at Atlanticon last year? A "telling off" I must have missed. But now, he has solved his problem by putting me "on filter." John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:35:34 -0500 From: ed miller To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168550] Re: Goodbye QRP-l , thanks Jim , and a question Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20040219121902.045d0d60@mail.magnet.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed To Most of the Group: I too would like to express my gratitude to those who have made qrp-L available to us. I have learned a great deal from the various postings, some of which I hope to forget, but not all. I think I will turn to my ever lengthening bookshelf of QRP related material for my daily fix. This in conjunction with as many sessions as possible at the workbench should be far more informative and relaxing than the most recent posts. For the periodic infusion of fresh ideas there are the ever improving QRP quarterly publications, which compared to the various web sources, are a day late but never a dollar short. These publications are,by necessity, moderated. They seem to be thriving for a reason, perhaps it is because instant response ( knee-jerk ) is not possible and cool heads prevail. In short: pull the plug and read a book. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:30:56 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168551] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l Message-ID: <4034F2D0.1060200@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >So...you have NO PROOF that John called Jim's boss, yet you continue to rail >on about your CONCLUSIONS. > >John has already stated on another list that he DID NOT make the call the Jim >Eshelman mentions. You have access to that other list, the same as I do. So, >are you calling John a liar, AND pointing the finger at him because you don't >LIKE him, or is it because you just needed to vent your mean spleen? > ROTFLMAO!! The reason Lloyd doesn't know is that he has me on filter. He has no idea what is going on, but he is talking himself into trouble. John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:30:37 -0600 From: "Lee Bahr" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168552] Re: Too Many Chiefs? Message-ID: <009b01c3f70e$17e6a460$dd43993f@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I feel exactly as Dan does about a host such as AMQRP. I could not have said it better then him. I like AMQRP and they do a lot of good, but I fear they are becomming too commercialized and a list run by them would be biased. Their magazine is already becomming this way. Too much power in one camp is not a good thing. There are plenty of alternatives available to us so we can avoid this situation. Please understand, I am not putting AMQRP down. I just think seperation of power is good for QRP. Lee, w0vt Houston snip > At any rate, I have already subbed to at least three other lists, one or > two of them may get the majority of the members of this list. I probably > won't join a web only list and probably not join a list that is put out by > any certain club, such as ARCI or AMQRP or others like them. Not because I > don't believe in what they are all about, (I am currently and will remain a > member of both those clubs), but because I want to get more unbiased info > from any list that takes over for this list. Only an independently owned > list can provide that on a regular basis. I will join SIG lists if I want > info pertaining to a certain club or affiliation. > Dan Harriman > Orange, Texas snip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:35:04 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168553] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l Message-ID: <4034F3C8.6010909@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >No, I'm not calling him a liar. If he says he didn't >make the call, I accept that. I didn't see his post on >any other list, because I choose to disallow his spew >into my inbox. I was pointing the finger because he >stands out as the lone, shrill, constant voice against >the work Jim did in moderating the list, and because >the post I reproduced here seemed too close to what >happened to have been coincidental. > > I apologize to him and any of you that were >offended by my bringing that post, and my suspicions, >to light in this forum. It was done in great anger. >I'm still angry. > > LL > What on earth gives you the idea that I'm the "lone, shrill voice....?" I have had the guts to speak up on this and other lists, and a few others have too. (Thanks, Rick..). You probably have al l of them on filter, too. That's the way to deal with anyone that doesn't agree with you. John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:37:11 -0600 From: "Lee Bahr" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168554] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? Message-ID: <00f101c3f70f$024d5b20$dd43993f@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excuse me? When was this decided? Lee, w0vt snip > So, is it agreed then that QRP-L will be moving over to the alternate site > at QTH.NET? If so, when will this take place? I don't want to miss any of > the postings. There are excellent people on the current list and I'm hoping > they don't bail on us. I've learned more from QRP-L than I ever could have > imagined. > > Doug VA7DD snip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:44:15 -0800 (PST) From: Bob KB2FEL To: kd1jv@moose.ncia.net, Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168555] Re: Next kit offering Message-ID: <20040219174415.74024.qmail@web60510.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Steve, How about adding a Marker Generator. 72 Bob KB2FEL/8 --- Steven Weber wrote: > Here's a heads up on the next kit I plan on > developing for this coming > summer. > > It will be a test box for working on QRP rigs. It > will intergrate a number > of test functions into one box. > > 1. 10 watt dummy load > 2. RF power meter > 3. RF volt meter > 4. Frequency counter > 5. AF signal generator > 6. Possibly pervisions for adding a NJQRP DDS > daughter board for RF signal > generation > 7. Suggestions for additional functions welcome. > > > 72, > Steve, KD1JV > "Melt Solder" > White Mountains of New Hampshire > http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:51:05 -0800 (PST) From: Bob KB2FEL To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168556] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? Message-ID: <20040219175105.54215.qmail@web60508.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi All, Just wondering, Is there a problem using a public computer and web based email for QTH.Net. Will it take an non ISP email address (Yahoo or others) to subscribe with? 72 Bob KB2FEL/8 > snip > > So, is it agreed then that QRP-L will be moving > over to the alternate site > > at QTH.NET? If so, when will this take place? I > don't want to miss any > of > > the postings. There are excellent people on the > current list and I'm > hoping > > they don't bail on us. I've learned more from > QRP-L than I ever could > have > > imagined. > > > > Doug VA7DD > snip > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:51:50 -0600 From: "Freeberg, Scott (STP)" To: Subject: [168557] Thanks Jim Eshelman and QRP-L for the Memories Message-ID: <42ECC21B33DFF245BAFAF57274BA5CE5016EC10A@stpmse04.stp.guidant.com> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My thanks to Jim Eshelman for hosting QRP-L for all these years. If = you're not already in the QRP hall of fame, you should be for your = significant contribution to QRP. I've been a list member, albeit a = quiet one, since maybe 1996 or 1997 so I'm sad at the loss of community = here.=20 Warning: If you YAHOO, get ready to enjoy spam and Advertisement pages = as you scroll through the list. If you haven't had the pleasure, when = you scroll through the Yahoo main list, seems like every other email you = try to look at is preceeded with an advertisement page that you must = then move past. What a pain. I've already posted on QRP-F and I'll = probably see alot of you folks over there. Warning: No moderation? Just look back in the archives to those periods = of either lite or no moderation and see if you want to live through that = horrible crap again. Thanks for the memories, its been a great QRP-L adventure. and this has = been a great QRP group!=20 73, Scott WA9WFA=20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:04:27 -0600 From: "sjolin" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" , Subject: [168558] Re: Next kit offering Message-ID: <132e01c3f712$d13613c0$78d1fea9@DaveSjolin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob KB2FEL" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Next kit offering > Hi Steve, > How about adding a Marker Generator. Or how about adding the controls and control circutry to use the VE3DNL marker generator in your box. 73 de Dave, N0IT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:07:45 -0600 From: "sjolin" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168559] Re: post-mortem of qrp-l Message-ID: <133c01c3f713$47597470$78d1fea9@DaveSjolin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sielke" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:35 AM Subject: Re: post-mortem of qrp-l > I have had the guts to speak up on this and other lists, and a few > others have too. (Thanks, Rick..). You probably have al l of them on > filter, too. That's the way to deal with anyone that doesn't agree with > you. > > John W2AGN Jim's only mistake in running qrp-l was not banning you and Rick and putting Karl on heavily supervised probation. Have a nice day. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:10:48 -0800 From: "richqrp" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168560] Re: Next kit offering Message-ID: <010a01c3f713$b3943620$c1770744@wd6fddstssz5sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OH boy!! here's another one... this one I WILL have to have.. instead of having junk all over the place, (and you know, it walks somewhere else after I sit it down ????) I never did understand that one.. but this way all I have to do is just lose,..... I mean keep track of one item... this will be a real keeper Steve.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Weber" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: Next kit offering > Here's a heads up on the next kit I plan on developing for this coming > summer. > > It will be a test box for working on QRP rigs. It will intergrate a number > of test functions into one box. > > 1. 10 watt dummy load > 2. RF power meter > 3. RF volt meter > 4. Frequency counter > 5. AF signal generator > 6. Possibly pervisions for adding a NJQRP DDS daughter board for RF signal > generation > 7. Suggestions for additional functions welcome. > > > 72, > Steve, KD1JV > "Melt Solder" > White Mountains of New Hampshire > http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:10:47 -0800 From: "Stephen Finch" To: "'Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion'" Subject: [168561] Current Draw on Tenna Dipper Message-ID: <000001c3f71c$1903cbd0$010aa8c0@stephenc8hox1x> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am wondering what level of current draw your "stock" Tenna Dipper = draws. Mine draws 43.5 ma which seems okay. However, at this level of draw, it will pull down the 9 v. battery to 8 volts in about 30 min. of so of operation. My dipper does not function properly once the voltage falls below 8 volts. Anyone else experience this?? Thanks, Steve AI=D8W=20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:17:49 -0700 From: "Chris Trask" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168562] Re: Calling Ones Boss Message-ID: <00bc01c3f714$afb9c5a0$22044bab@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I don't recall it happening to Jim, at least since 1998, but I do > recall Paul Harden, NA5N, having it happen to him a couple of years > ago. Someone didn't like his way of helping the rest of us. Once > had a similar thing happen to me too -- not nice. > Character assassination happens all the time. Look around you at work. It serves to promote the incompetent. Chris ,----------------------. High Performance Mixers and / What's all this \ Amplifiers for RF Communications / extinct stuff, anyhow? / \ _______,--------------' Chris Trask / N7ZWY _ |/ Principal Engineer oo\ Sonoran Radio Research (__)\ _ P.O. Box 25240 \ \ .' `. Tempe, Arizona 85285-5240 \ \ / \ \ '" \ IEEE Member #40274515 . ( ) \ '-| )__| :. \ Email: christrask@earthlink.net | | | | \ '. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask c__; c__; '-..'>.__ Graphics by Loek Frederiks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Carpenter" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: Calling Ones Boss > >> > >>It's a crying shame that this has happened. It may be true that Jim's > >>bosses are OK with the phone call, once; but how can he do other than what > >>he did? One cannot allow one's job to take that 2nd (potential) phone > call hit. > > > >I believe I remember it happened once before to Jim ..... a year or so > ago.... > >. > >By the way ..... I still have the original email subscribing me to qrp-l on > >Thu, 23 Nov 1995 09:44:39 EST and before that I was downloading qrp-l with > >DOS ProCom or Telix and reading it with DOS edit. > > > >What a ride! > > > >72 / 73 Hank K8DD > > > > Chuck Carpenter, W5USJ, Point, Rains Co., TX - EM22cv, NETXQRP #1 > QRP-ARCI #5422, QRP-L #1306, QRPp-I #115, ARS #1280, SOC #57 > Zombie #759, COG #11, 6 Club #201, FP #601 oo http://www.netxqrp.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:27:06 -0600 From: "Doc - W5TB" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168563] Thanks Jim! Message-ID: <008c01c3f716$c393f260$0400a8c0@attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Jim and most of the group -- thanks for the great conversation and qrp fun. 72, 73, oo T.E. 'Doc' Drake, W5TB Arlington, Texas FISTS # 5365 QRPARCI # 3532 ARRL Life Member K1 #181 K2#1617 http://www.qsl.net/w5tb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:30:47 -0500 From: "Ken Evans" To: , "QRP-l" Subject: [168564] QRP Hall of Fame - A reminder Message-ID: <000001c3f716$eebe83b0$6401a8c0@pawpaw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Gang, Here is the post made earlier about QRP Hall of Fame nominations. This is a reminder as the deadline is March 1, 2004 Ken W4DU Vice President - QRP ARCI QRPARCI #696, GQRP#5918, FP#295, ARRL - Life QRP Hall of Fame Members will recall that this is the time of year for the call for nominations for election to the QRP-ARCI 'QRP Hall of Fame'. You can submit either real mail or internet nominations but they must include the following information. Name & Call of person nominated Name & Call of person making the nomination. A full description of why you think your nominee should be in the QRP Hall of Fame. Remember we may not know this person and you must convince us the person is worthy. Things such as "John Doe is a great guy and always helps out at the club" will guarantee he is rejected. Be specific in your recommendation and try to persuade us why your person should be in the HOF. "The voting body consists of the QRP ARCI Board of Directors, President, and Vice President. Those who were inducted into the QRP Hall of Fame in the last two rounds will also be given the option to vote. Nominations may be submitted by anyone, whether a member of the QRP ARCI or not. Similarly, membership is not required for someone to receive the honor, since this is an award to recognize those who have made great contributions to the QRP community, not just to the QRP ARCI." If no nominations are received or the nominee(s) receive(s) less than the required vote there will not be an induction at Dayton for 2004. The BOD is adamant that it is not a requirement that we will have an induction. Please forward your nominations to BOTH President QRP president@qrparci.org AND to the Vice President vp@qrparci.org. Nominations in writing should be sent direct to Ken Evans W4DU and I at the following addresses: Dick Pascoe, G BPS Seaview House, Crete Road East, FOLKESTONE, CT18 7EG U.K Ken Evans, W4DU 848 Valbrook Ct. Lilburn, GA 30247 U.S.A. The closing date for nominations is March 1, 2004. When a nomination is received, a confirmation e-mail or letter will be sent to the person making the nomination. If you nominate someone and do not receive a confirmation, we did not receive it. You will need to receive a confirmation to insure your nominee will be considered. Dick, G0BPS President: QRP ARCI Members QRP ARCI Hall of Fame November 2003 Chuck Adams, K5FO (1998) Brice Anderson, W9PNE (1996) Rich Arland, K7SZ (2002) Dave Benson, NN1G (1999) Michael Bryce WB8VGE (2000) Wayne Burdick, N6KR (1998) George Burt, GM3OXX (1996) Jim Cates, WA6GER (1998) L. B. Cebik, W4RNL (1999) Arnold (Arnie) Coro, CO2KK (2003) Mike Czuhajewski, WA8MCQ (1997) Tom Davis, K8IF (1996) Doug DeMaw, W1FB (1992) (silent key) Rev. George Dobbs, G3RJV (1992) Joe Everhart N2CX (2000) Graham Firth G3MFJ (2003) Tony Fishpool G4WIF (2003) Paul Harden, NA5N (1999) Wes Hayward, W7ZOI (1996) Doug Hendricks, KI6DS (1997) George Heron N2APB (2001) Jim Kortge, K8IQY (2002) Roy Llewellyn, W7EL (1992) Rick Littlefield, K1BQT (1996) Dick Pascoe, G0BPS (1997) Randy Rand, AA2U (1992) C. F. Rockey, W9SCH (1996) Gus Taylor, G8PG (1998) Adrian Weiss, W0RSP (1996) Peter Zenker DL2FI (2001) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:42:25 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: "Thom R. Lacosta" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168565] Re: QRP-F vs QRP-L on QSL.NET Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Thom R. Lacosta wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Karl Larsen wrote: > > > > > Yes. And if we move the whole mob to qrp-l@qsl.net, we should > > figure out how to get money from the users for a donation. NOTHING IS > > FREE! > > > > I would beg to differ with you. > > There are/have been many lists that do NOT depend on donations > The owner for whatever reason decides to offer the service > to the community. > > Kinda like Elmering....it doesn;t make any sense, to me, to > think of a way to get donations for Elmering. > Thom, I assume your talking for the owner with his appoval? I expect not and since I happen to KNOW Walt very well, and we both love and hate Linux depending on things, you better send him a message and get his thoughts. He has told me the big computers in 6 foot racks were very expensive and all the huge hard drives and the T-3 internet line he pays for every month, run into the thousands of dollars. > > Thom > www.zerobeat.net/qrp/ > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:44:35 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: Lee Bahr Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168566] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Lee Bahr wrote: > Do you want to filter all my junk mail I am getting on Yahoo because my > address is leaking out to the whole world from lists I have joined there? Your wrong. As I have said I have a list QRPDX and no-one has ever got a spam from that list. > If we go Yahoo, I'm out of here! Too bad. We have plenty of alternative choices > light years better then Yahoo Groups. I do not have worry of Yahoo, just > contempt and experience with them! They will not be my alternative. > Lee, w0vt > . > > > > > > Many people on this list have expressed a real worry about the > > Yahoo lists. This is un-founded. A Yahoo list can be moderated. When you > > join the list you can ask for the messages to be sent to you as > > individual or a daily bunch of them. You can send a message to the list > > just like you do now with QRP-L. > > > > Yahoo is on the Nazdac exchange and it makes money. It makes > > some of it putting ads for ink and other stuff at the end of your > > messages. If you choose any other list server they will either charge > > you, or eat the cost themselves. Nothing is free. > > > > There are a lot of ham radio lists already on Yahoo and they > > work just like QRP-L. So do not be afraid of Yahoo. > > > > -- > > > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > > > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:45:11 -0800 From: "Trevor Jacobs" To: ve1dy@eudoramail.com, "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168567] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice Message-ID: <00b501c3f718$c6fe5ba0$38fea8c0@TREVORMAINPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Paul, Softhome.net is my e-mail account, the QRP-L list that many of us have gone to is at qth.net. The signup page is: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l BTW, I don't run or own this list. It's been in place for quite a while in the event of QRP-L's demise. Looks like it's working FB too. Hope to see you there along with everyone else! 73's Trev - KG6CYN http://www.qsl.net/kg6cyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul , VE1DY" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice > > Hi Bob... no sign of approval but I don't think it like my web based e-mail. > > I'm gonna try Trevor's SoftHome.net > > 72, Paul > > --------- Original Message --------- > > > >Are you or did you signed up and then already been approved ? > > > >Bob > >w9ya > > > > > >> Maybe it aien't gonna be all that easy after all! > >> > > > Need a new email address that people can remember > Check out the new EudoraMail at > http://www.eudoramail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:45:03 -0500 From: "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" To: Cc: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168568] Re: The future of QRP-L & Education Message-ID: <09e701c3f718$7d7fa920$6401a8c0@mydomain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not a chance, Donn. I don't blame Jim ONE BIT for his decisison. When someone calls your boss, or your employer, it changes your whole attitude about everything ! One day, I was on my lunch hour, with a sandwich clearly in front of me, playing "Tetris" on my work computer. Someone "turned me in" to my boss, immediately after which I stopped playing lunchtime games on my computer. I found another place to eat lunch, and my boss also lost out, because he couldn't conveniently call me into his office. IT'S JUST NOT WORTH THE AGGRAVATION ! Even if you're "playing" on "your" time, there's always a lingering incinuation that you're stealing company time. It's just not worth putting your career at stake ! Thanks to Jim for a job well done, and for putting up with all the crap as well. When it comes to your employment, though, you have to draw a line in the sand ! Dick K2JQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donn" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:20 AM Subject: Re: The future of QRP-L & Education > It is sad indeed to see the list go. I wasn't that active on it, but > learned an awlful lot. I just hope Jim might reconsider and continue. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:57:40 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: Steven Weber Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168569] Re: Next kit offering Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Steven Weber wrote: > Here's a heads up on the next kit I plan on developing for this coming > summer. > > It will be a test box for working on QRP rigs. It will intergrate a number > of test functions into one box. > > 1. 10 watt dummy load > 2. RF power meter > 3. RF volt meter > 4. Frequency counter > 5. AF signal generator > 6. Possibly pervisions for adding a NJQRP DDS daughter board for RF signal > generation > 7. Suggestions for additional functions welcome. Sounds good Steve, but I think you should include a DDS RF signal generator and include attenuator pads that cut down the output to about -170 DBmw. Then it's good for a complete rig tuneup. It will run up the cost but the readout device can be for both the Frequency Counter and the DDS generator. I am willing to help on this project and I think it must include a nice Ten Tec box. The DDS will need a PC box soldered around it I expect to get the low signal output. > > > 72, > Steve, KD1JV > "Melt Solder" > White Mountains of New Hampshire > http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:53:37 -0600 From: Michael Goins To: Subject: [168570] QRP-Demise Message-ID: <450iBss2l2032S06.1077216817@cmsweb06.cms.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure would be an opportune moment for QRP-ARCI to actually step up and do= something here. = ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:58:30 -0500 From: "Charles Mabbott" To: k5di@zianet.com, qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168571] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Been the Yahoo route and had my address made the originator of many things I would be embarassed to have a Marine read.......... While you have not had a problem, I am happy for you but I have not been so lucky. 73 Chuck AA8VS "The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while Nature cures the disease." Voltaire www.aa8vs.org/aa8vs ----Original Message Follows---- From: Karl Larsen Reply-To: k5di@zianet.com To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: Re: The Truth about Yahoo Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:44:35 -0700 (MST) On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Lee Bahr wrote: > Do you want to filter all my junk mail I am getting on Yahoo because my > address is leaking out to the whole world from lists I have joined there? Your wrong. As I have said I have a list QRPDX and no-one has ever got a spam from that list. > If we go Yahoo, I'm out of here! Too bad. We have plenty of alternative choices > light years better then Yahoo Groups. I do not have worry of Yahoo, just > contempt and experience with them! They will not be my alternative. > Lee, w0vt > . > > > > > > Many people on this list have expressed a real worry about the > > Yahoo lists. This is un-founded. A Yahoo list can be moderated. When you > > join the list you can ask for the messages to be sent to you as > > individual or a daily bunch of them. You can send a message to the list > > just like you do now with QRP-L. > > > > Yahoo is on the Nazdac exchange and it makes money. It makes > > some of it putting ads for ink and other stuff at the end of your > > messages. If you choose any other list server they will either charge > > you, or eat the cost themselves. Nothing is free. > > > > There are a lot of ham radio lists already on Yahoo and they > > work just like QRP-L. So do not be afraid of Yahoo. > > > > -- > > > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > > > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - _________________________________________________________________ Take off on a romantic weekend or a family adventure to these great U.S. locations. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:04:52 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168572] RE: QRP-Demise Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A901735A49@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Sure would be an opportune moment for QRP-ARCI to actually=20 > step up and do something here.=20 I'm not at all sure that would be the best course of action. IMHO, = there is great value in having a QRP discussion=20 list that is separate from any major QRP organization. Any moderation = that may be needed is then seen to be and is separate from any organizational objectives. In most cases, a = moderator can (mostly) disassociate from those=20 sorts of things, but if a thread were to develop discussing something = negative about ARCI and that thread turned ugly so that a moderator had to deal with personal attacks, if = that moderator were an ARCI representative, would it really be seen as being impartial? Would a whole new thread = erupt about whether the moderation was appropriate? Could any human being really trust himself or herself = to always be impartial under those=20 circumstances? It could even go in the other direction, with a moderator = bending over backwards to appear impartial, so not moderating as appropriate. I prefer having a watering hole that is a real grass roots project. It = is like the difference between attending a town meeting where things are done formally to getting together in the bar = after the meeting to say what's really on your mind. We have plenty of opportunities to deal formally with our = organizations; let's keep a place that allows us to discuss things openly, subject only to the general guide that the = posts be about QRP and that we conduct ourselves in a responsible fashion. Most moderators recognize this and = moderate far more by leadership than by force. 73, Ed Hare, W1RFI =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:07:58 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168573] RE: The future of QRP-L & Education Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A902512A51@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > One day, I was on my lunch hour, with a sandwich clearly in front of = me, > playing "Tetris" on my work computer. Someone "turned me in" to my = boss, > immediately after which I stopped playing lunchtime games on my = computer.=20 A good boss understands these things. With a great boss, the only way = you would have known would have been why you asked him why he just loudly tossed Sally out of his office! :-) 73, Ed Hare, W1RFI ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:08:50 -0600 From: Michael Goins To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168574] Re: [RE: The Truth about Yahoo] Message-ID: <186iBsTiY9008S07.1077217730@uwdvg007.cms.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The problem seems to be the Yahoo email, not the Yahoo lists, yet there i= s constant confusion over the two. We have a list we use here in Houston fo= r our QRP group, and I co-moderate it. I have had zero spam I could attribute t= o the lsit and I do not have a Yahoo email address. In reality, I suspect that I, like most on this list, will wait to hear w= here we move and then switch over. = mike k5wmg Garie Halstead K8KFJ wrote: --- KD5NWA wrote: > I've had very bad experiences with Yahoo mail list, every > time I have signed up for some group, I have been flooded > by spam right after signing up. My Yahoo experience has been very different Bill. I've been on Yahoo for many months now. I've probably gotten a total of only 6 or 7 spam messages during that entire time. I do not know the reason why our experiences would be so vastly different. Can't say I'm not glad though that spam isn't finding me. HI 72, Gary -K8KFJ- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:11:52 -0600 From: "rattray" To: "QRP-C" , "QRP-L" Subject: [168575] Fox - Fox Hunt Teams Results... Message-ID: <000001c3f71c$3eb54d40$7900a8c0@Bonnie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW! - we have a real race still going on for 2nd, 3rd & 4th places and that includes a tie score...and the Raiders are sneakin' up a bit on Team Pork...and with another Clean Sweep we have the NE-TX Tornados way out in front! Hunt # 33 - W8RU - QRP Cheeseheads - 111 Cajun Thunder - 111 Jerry - N9AW * Wayne - K5EOA * Rick - NK9G * Wayne - N5YFC * Clean Gary - W9XT * Vern - AA5O * Sweep Lon - W9XU Jim - N5IB * Jim - WA9TZE * Chris -KD5UDB * The Underdogs - 108 Team Air Pork - 67 Dan - N4ROA * Wayne - K9DI Dennis - N4DD * Mike - KD5KXF Bob - KB2FEL Dave - AG4PJ * Dave - W0CH * Randy - W9HL Ron - KI0II * Jerry - N0JRN Raiders of the Lost RF - 63 The NE-TX Tornados - 138 Rob - VE6JAZ * Bill - K5JHP * Craig - VE4WI * Don - K5DW * Clean Fred - VE3FAL Doc - W5TB * Sweep Earl - VA6RF Lew - N5ZE * Bruce - VE5RC * George -W5YR * ...please e-mail me direct with corrections, changes...tnx.... ...72/73 - Bruce (VE5RC+VE5QRP) QRP-C#1 QRP-L#886 ARCI#9683 Zombie#272 A-1 Operator Club - 10/10# 944 - QRP Borg#1 - Whiner#10 - - VE5QRP SOC#11 - VE5RC SOC#12 - oo#148 - K2#2032 - COG#15 - "QRP! How sweet it is!" "I am da man wit "DAH" paddle!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:16:15 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168576] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: <40350B7F.60009@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >Been the Yahoo route and had my address made the originator of many things I >would be embarassed to have a Marine read.......... While you have not had >a problem, I am happy for you but I have not been so lucky. > >73 Chuck AA8VS > > I would suggest those that are considering Yahoo, read their "Privacy"policy..throughly. Some time ago, when I attempted to cancel my Yahoo account because of SPAM, I was informed that they would keep my personal information for THREE YEARS, and do with it what they wished. John W2AGN > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:20:56 -0600 From: "rattray" To: "QRP-C" , "QRP-L" Subject: [168577] Fox - Fox Hunt Teams Results... Message-ID: <000101c3f71d$8310bb90$7900a8c0@Bonnie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Holy Schmoly Batman!...the Cheeseheads have pulled ahead by 2 but the Cajun Thunder & the Underdogs only have 1 point separating them!...it's still a race!...Team Air Pork and the Raiders are holding steady with 3 pelts between them and it looks like some of the NE-TX Tornados stopped at the bar for a drink!...I heard a rumour that Batgirl was at the bar as well... ;-) ..if we'd only thought of this earlier eh!?!...hihihi.... Hunt # 34 - K5TR - QRP Cheeseheads - 116 Cajun Thunder - 114 Jerry - N9AW * Wayne - K5EOA * Rick - NK9G * Clean Wayne - N5YFC Gary - W9XT * Sweep Vern - AA5O * Lon - W9XU * Jim - N5IB * Jim - WA9TZE * Chris -KD5UDB The Underdogs - 113 Team Air Pork - 69 Dan - N4ROA * Wayne - K9DI Dennis - N4DD * Clean Mike - KD5KXF Bob - KB2FEL * Sweep Dave - AG4PJ * Dave - W0CH * Randy - W9HL * Ron - KI0II * Jerry - N0JRN Raiders of the Lost RF - 66 The NE-TX Tornados - 140 Rob - VE6JAZ * Bill - K5JHP Craig - VE4WI * Don - K5DW Fred - VE3FAL Doc - W5TB Earl - VA6RF Lew - N5ZE * Bruce - VE5RC * George -W5YR * ...please e-mail me direct with corrections, changes...tnx.... ...72/73 - Bruce (VE5RC+VE5QRP) QRP-C#1 QRP-L#886 ARCI#9683 Zombie#272 A-1 Operator Club - 10/10# 944 - QRP Borg#1 - Whiner#10 - - VE5QRP SOC#11 - VE5RC SOC#12 - oo#148 - K2#2032 - COG#15 - "QRP! How sweet it is!" "I am da man wit "DAH" paddle!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:23:54 +0000 From: "Bill Rowlett" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168578] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I am happy that you have had no problems, but, every time I have been involved with anything at Yahoo, the percentage of junk I get goes up. When I leave Yahoo, the level returns to a normal (if there is such a thing) level. Do not know the reason, and do not care. 73, Bill kc4atu >From: Karl Larsen >Reply-To: k5di@zianet.com >To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" >Subject: Re: The Truth about Yahoo >Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:44:35 -0700 (MST) > >On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Lee Bahr wrote: > > > Do you want to filter all my junk mail I am getting on Yahoo because my > > address is leaking out to the whole world from lists I have joined >there? > > > Your wrong. As I have said I have a list QRPDX and no-one has >ever got a spam from that list. > > > > If we go Yahoo, I'm out of here! > > Too bad. > > > We have plenty of alternative choices > > light years better then Yahoo Groups. I do not have worry of Yahoo, >just > > contempt and experience with them! They will not be my alternative. > > Lee, w0vt > > . > > > > > > > > > > Many people on this list have expressed a real worry about the > > > Yahoo lists. This is un-founded. A Yahoo list can be moderated. When >you > > > join the list you can ask for the messages to be sent to you as > > > individual or a daily bunch of them. You can send a message to the >list > > > just like you do now with QRP-L. > > > > > > Yahoo is on the Nazdac exchange and it makes money. It makes > > > some of it putting ads for ink and other stuff at the end of your > > > messages. If you choose any other list server they will either charge > > > you, or eat the cost themselves. Nothing is free. > > > > > > There are a lot of ham radio lists already on Yahoo and they > > > work just like QRP-L. So do not be afraid of Yahoo. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > _________________________________________________________________ Watch high-quality video with fast playback at MSN Video. Free! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200365ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:30:32 -0500 From: "Ken Evans" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168579] Re: QRP-Demise Message-ID: <006001c3f71e$d6f006c0$6401a8c0@pawpaw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, QRP ARCI has already stepped up and done something. We have hosted QRP-F (http://www.e-discounter.net/qrparci/ ) since 1999. Try it, you may like it. Ken W4DU Vice President - QRP ARCI QRPARCI #696, GQRP#5918, FP#295, ARRL - Life ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Goins" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: QRP-Demise > Sure would be an opportune moment for QRP-ARCI to actually step up and do > something here. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:31:02 -0500 (EST) From: To: Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168580] Re: Bug prices Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 jsb@digistar.com wrote: > > $4,659 for a bug? > > It's only a medium of exchange. Perhaps it represents an hours work for the purchaser? If I could have had it for an hours work, it would certainly be here! -bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:39:35 -0600 From: Michael Goins To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168581] Re: [Re: QRP-Demise] Message-ID: <515iBsTnj6800S16.1077219575@uwdvg016.cms.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have tried it. Don't like it. Obviously the wrong format for most people = or more would use it. As pointed out by many, this is the format to use. = mike k5wmg "Ken Evans" wrote: Actually, QRP ARCI has already stepped up and done something. We have hosted QRP-F (http://www.e-discounter.net/qrparci/ ) since 1999. Try it= , you may like it. Ken W4DU Vice President - QRP ARCI QRPARCI #696, GQRP#5918, FP#295, ARRL - Life ----- Original Message ----- = From: "Michael Goins" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: QRP-Demise > Sure would be an opportune moment for QRP-ARCI to actually step up and = do > something here. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Thom R. Lacosta" To: Karl Larsen Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168582] Re: QRP-F vs QRP-L on QSL.NET Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Karl Larsen wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Thom R. Lacosta wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Karl Larsen wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes. And if we move the whole mob to qrp-l@qsl.net, we should > > > figure out how to get money from the users for a donation. NOTHING IS > > > FREE! > > > > > > > I would beg to differ with you. > > > > There are/have been many lists that do NOT depend on donations > > The owner for whatever reason decides to offer the service > > to the community. > > > > Kinda like Elmering....it doesn;t make any sense, to me, to > > think of a way to get donations for Elmering. > > > > Thom, I assume your talking for the owner with his appoval? No Karl....I was speaking from my own experiences as a list owner who foots all the bills for the list, the bandwidth, the server, the domain name, the service calls, etc. Some of the list members here are members of the list I own...and I've never asked them for a dime. I put the list up as a "pay back" to all the folks who have helped me and other newbees over the years. So, please, unless you know exactly what I'm refering to, which obviously you didn't, don't play the word games. Thom www.zerobeat.net/qrp/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:44:12 -0800 From: Bob Nielsen To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168583] Re: The future of QRP-L Message-ID: <20040219194412.GB1700@office.n7xy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:21:13AM -0600, George Fremin III wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 12:15:43PM -0500, Dale Anderson (KB0VCC) wrote: > > > Hopefully the archives will remain preserved on-line by someone. > > I do not plan on removing them from here: > > http://www.kkn.net/archives//html/QRP-L/ > > > > archives before they disappear. You will see what a warm, > > enthusiastic, tolerant, and supportive place QRP-L once was. > > There is some great stuff in them. Great! It appears that the consensus is to use qrp-l@qth.net for the replacement list. A nice feature is that QTH uses Mailman, which automatically creates archives. -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY n7xy (at) n7xy.net Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.n7xy.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:59:45 -0500 From: "Bob Schreibmaier" To: "QRP-L" Subject: [168584] Re: Next kit offering Message-ID: <000501c3f722$ec575140$6400a8c0@k3ph> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about a 30-meter transceiver using a Tayloe mixer? 8^) Now ducking and running for cover... 72/73, Bob K3PH >How about adding a Marker Generator. > > >72 >Bob >KB2FEL/8 >--- Steven Weber wrote: >> Here's a heads up on the next kit I plan on >> developing for this coming >> summer. >> >> It will be a test box for working on QRP rigs. It >>will intergrate a number >>of test functions into one box. >> >> 1. 10 watt dummy load >> 2. RF power meter >> 3. RF volt meter >> 4. Frequency counter >> 5. AF signal generator >> 6. Possibly pervisions for adding a NJQRP DDS >> daughter board for RF signal >> generation >> 7. Suggestions for additional functions welcome. ____ / _____ / / ) / / / /____/ ____ /___ (____ ____ /___ /___ / ) / ) / ) ) / / ) / /_____/ /____/ /____/ _____/ (____ / / / . . . +----------------------------------------------+ | Bob Schreibmaier K3PH | E-mail: k3ph@ptd.net | | Kresgeville, PA 18333 | http://www.dxis.org | +----------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:02:43 -0500 (EST) From: jsb@digistar.com To: Jim Eshleman Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168585] Re: The future of QRP-L Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Jim Eshleman wrote: > I will pull the plug on QRP-L on Feb 29. You'll need to find a new > home. Thanks Jim for making it possible to provide this list. I have a QRP-CW list at http://qrq.us/mailman/listinfo/qrp-cw but it's more CW oriented than the "Tavern" atmosphere at QRP-L. QRP-CW is low volume. Again, thanks for providing the space and bandwidth for QRP-L. It is appreciated by many many people. vy 73 Jason N1SU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:19:59 -0500 From: Steven Weber To: stevef88@msn.com, "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168586] Re: Current Draw on Tenna Dipper Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040219151959.007c16b0@mailhost.ncia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Mine draws 43.5 ma which seems okay. However, at this level of draw, it Mine draws 38 ma with the led full on and 17 when it's off. Replacing the reverse input voltage diode with a Shottky will help a little, as would shorting it out entirely, but then you'd have to be darn sure not to hook your battery up backwards, even for an instant. 72, Steve, KD1JV "Melt Solder" White Mountains of New Hampshire http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:16:33 -0600 From: Rob Matherly To: na4fm-list@towncorp.net Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168587] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: <403519A1.3060206@jetnetinc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NA4FM (Buck) wrote: >Every email address I have ever used on Yahoo is massively spammed. It >doesn't matter what setting I use, I always get spam from Yahoo. >Therefore, I avoid Yahoo with a passion. Sorry, the problems are not >un-founded. > > All you have to do is go into your preferences an uncheck all the boxes that 'permit them' from sending you spam. I'm subscribed to roughly twenty-five Yahoogroups and don't get a single ad from them. -- 72/73/oo - Rob, W0JRM - jimrob@jetnetinc.net - ARRL MEMBER FPQrp -330; QRPp-I #19; WATPK #1; SOC #442; ARS #1143 Are you a gun nut? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gun_nut_hams http://www.robmatherly.com <--- Not ham related! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:17:36 +0000 From: Chuck Adams To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168588] [F/S] Elecraft K2 #02289 Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040219200444.02044a48@mail.commspeed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed For Sale: One Elecraft K2, serial number 02289. Have K160RX 160m module unbuilt. Have KIO2 RS232 interface unbuilt. Have KAF2 Audio Filter and Real Time Clock unbuilt. My original investment is: K2 - $599.00 K160RX - $35.00 KIO2 - $89.00 KAF2 - $79.00 total value $802.00, IF I have my math right. Did this without a calculator. I can build, test, and install the three unbuilt modules in two days if you wish. Also can send digital photos or put them on the web for your look see before you buy. Rig is in excellent shape and working condition and I'll run it through all the tests and align using the PC software as outlined on the Elecraft's web page while waiting for a buyer. Your price for the above only $680.00 and that includes priority mailing with insurance in the USofA. With all manuals. Reason for sale. Going to get a K1 and will be using the TenTec Argo V as main rig. I'd like to see the K2 find a home where it would get used. I don't do PayPal and checks will take some time to clear, so USPS MO would get the rig shipped next day after arrival in the mail box. FYI Chuck Adams K7QO k7qo@commspeed.net http://www.qsl.net/k7qo CP-60 Moving to Arizona? Please bring your own water. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:19:02 -0700 From: "Francis Callahan" To: Subject: [168589] Calling Boss Message-ID: <008d01c3f725$afc2dda0$b7ce1341@DJKTLQ31> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First thanks Jim for the way you ran the list and the time you have put into it. Second the guy who called your boss is probably a over rated CBer and also the worlds biggest LID of all times. again thanks Jim 72 Cal KF7ET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:20:00 -0500 From: "Paul , VE1DY" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" , kg6cyn@softhome.net Subject: [168590] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Trev... thanks for the e-mail. I tried signing up to qrp-l@mailman.qth.net last night, but it I haven't rec'd an approval notification yet. My current web based mail that I have been using lately is eudoramail, but I signed up for softhome this morning. So far I haven't rec'd approval for either address yet. Others seem to have been approved. Maybe it's because I'm so far away (just kidding)! 72, Paul -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:45:11 From: "Trevor Jacobs" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Cc: >Hey Paul, > >Softhome.net is my e-mail account, the QRP-L list that many of us have gone >to is at qth.net. The signup page is: > >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l > > Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:32:05 -0600 From: John Oppenheimer To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168591] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: <40351D45.1030107@KN5L.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Rob, all today I have been wondering why there has been all of the negative comments about Yahoo. I have been a member of Yahoo from 1999, lots of groups, shopping, etc, and have never had a problem. I must have set the preferences way back then and forgot about them. Little more, sign on -> Acct. Info -> enter passwd -> Edit your marketing preferences -> change all to No. John Rob Matherly wrote: > NA4FM (Buck) wrote: > > >>Every email address I have ever used on Yahoo is massively spammed. It >>doesn't matter what setting I use, I always get spam from Yahoo. >>Therefore, I avoid Yahoo with a passion. Sorry, the problems are not >>un-founded. >> >> > > > All you have to do is go into your preferences an uncheck all the boxes > that 'permit them' from sending you spam. I'm subscribed to roughly > twenty-five Yahoogroups and don't get a single ad from them. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:33:26 -0500 (EST) From: jsb@digistar.com To: Jerry Haigwood Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion , qrp-cw@qrq.us Subject: [168592] Re: AZ ScQRPion Paddle Update Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Jerry Haigwood wrote: > Next Tuesday we plan to ship another 15-20 paddles. That will complete > batch 5. I have cut arms and posts for batch 6 and we plan to start > shipping batch 6 orders on or about March 9-10. hi Jerry, Just wanted to say thanks very much - I received kit #491 the other day and already have it on my K1 - what a great paddle! It does not move around on the table and is just the right weight. I might have committed "heresy" by applying a small bit of liquid electrical tape along the bottom to protect the wires since this thing will be jostled around pretty good over the next few years. vy 73 Jason N1SU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:35:29 -0500 From: "Paul , VE1DY" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168593] Re: Current Draw on Tenna Dipper Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Steve... I haven't measured the current, but when I first built mine, I noticed the frequency moving quite a bit; every time it told me the frequency, it was different. Then I realized I was using a battery that was no good. When I hooked up a good battery, the frequency stays right where it should. What a great gadget. I use it quite a bit. 72, Paul -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:10:47 From: "Stephen Finch" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Cc: >I am wondering what level of current draw your "stock" Tenna Dipper draws. >Mine draws 43.5 ma which seems okay. However, at this level of draw, it >will pull down the 9 v. battery to 8 volts in about 30 min. of so of >operation. My dipper does not function properly once the voltage falls >below 8 volts. > >Anyone else experience this?? > >Thanks, > >Steve >AI W > > > Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:43:27 -0500 From: "Paul , VE1DY" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168594] Re: [F/S] Elecraft K2 #02289 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Chuck... Obviously you like your Argonaut V. That's nice to see. I like mine too. I'm saving for a kx1. 72, Paul -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:17:36 From: Chuck Adams >Reason for sale. Going to get a K1 and will be using the >TenTec Argo V as main rig. I'd like to see the K2 find >a home where it would get used. Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:51:30 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168595] QRP-L at QSL.NET Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I joined the list called QRP-L on qsl.net and it's easy and the owner of the list has to approve you. This is because the darn spam people will try to join your list! I had to do the same thing with qrpdx@yahoo.com, and I killed the request to join of about 10 Spammers. I found the email address of the owner and sent him an email asking him about moderation of a large group. the owner of this list will have a lot to say about how well it works. I do not know a J.M. Lowman, but he seems to be the owner of this list. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:47:34 -0500 From: "Paul , VE1DY" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168596] Re: QRP-L to QTH.NET? Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bob... looks like that could be a possibility. It hasn't worked for me yet. 72, Paul > >Just wondering, Is there a problem using a public >computer and web based email for QTH.Net. >Will it take an non ISP email address (Yahoo or >others) to subscribe with? > >72 >Bob >KB2FEL/8 > Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:50:53 -0600 From: KD5NWA To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168597] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040219144510.0230dd78@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed You don't necessarily get the spam from Yahoo. I setup a several new address some time back and used them for over 3 month without receiving a single spam email on those address, but within 10 hours of signing up for a Yahoo group with one of the addresses the SPAM started pouring in, the same thing happened with a second email account I set up. I personally will not sign up for another Yahoo email list again. At 12:44 PM 2/19/2004, Karl Larsen wrote: >On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Lee Bahr wrote: > > > Do you want to filter all my junk mail I am getting on Yahoo because my > > address is leaking out to the whole world from lists I have joined there? > > > Your wrong. As I have said I have a list QRPDX and no-one has >ever got a spam from that list. > > > > If we go Yahoo, I'm out of here! > > Too bad. > > > We have plenty of alternative choices > > light years better then Yahoo Groups. I do not have worry of Yahoo, just > > contempt and experience with them! They will not be my alternative. > > Lee, w0vt > > . > > > > > > > > > > Many people on this list have expressed a real worry about the > > > Yahoo lists. This is un-founded. A Yahoo list can be moderated. When you > > > join the list you can ask for the messages to be sent to you as > > > individual or a daily bunch of them. You can send a message to the list > > > just like you do now with QRP-L. > > > > > > Yahoo is on the Nazdac exchange and it makes money. It makes > > > some of it putting ads for ink and other stuff at the end of your > > > messages. If you choose any other list server they will either charge > > > you, or eat the cost themselves. Nothing is free. > > > > > > There are a lot of ham radio lists already on Yahoo and they > > > work just like QRP-L. So do not be afraid of Yahoo. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - Cecil KD5NWA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:50:44 -0800 (PST) From: Bob KB2FEL To: Low Power Amateur Radio Subject: [168598] CQ VE1CHS/W0 Message-ID: <20040219205044.81641.qmail@web60507.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Pete, Just wondering if you are part of this list. Looking for your Email Addy. Hope you are enjoying the Duck Hunting! 72 Bob KB2FEL/8 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:53:13 -0500 From: "James P. Osburn, P.E." To: "List; QRP, QRP Mailing List" Subject: [168599] Our PIC-EL Building and Learning Group Message-ID: <001f01c3f72a$85df5900$538acccf@bbbcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Eastside Outdoor Ham Club, located in Terre Haute, Indiana, has a PIC-EL building and learning group. 7 of us have PIC-EL boards on order or the orders are in the mail. Hopefully they won't run out of PIC-EL boards. When our PIC-EL boards get here we're going to build them together. That will take place either at Rose-Hulman Ventures or at Corporate Square here in Terre Haute. The Eastside Outdoor Ham Club isn't a pure QRP club, we do a lot of hidden transmitter hunting too. But we do enjoy getting out with QRP rigs and operating in the great out-of-doors. We've also had group builds before of Warblers, CPO's, fox boxes, a couple of antennas, etc. You can learn more about our little club at these links. Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/eastside Web Page: http://www.qsl.net/kc9bxv/ If you're in the Terre Haute, Indiana, area and want to join our little group build you are welcome to do so. Just send an email to me at wd9eyb@arrl.net and I will let you know when it's going to happen. You are responsible for getting your PIC-EL board ordered and doing the Elmer 160 lessons. Thanks, Jim Osburn, WD9EYB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:55:21 +0000 From: "Jeff Hahn" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168600] FW: Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A year or so ago Yahoo during an upgrade Yahoo reset all preferences to receive spam. Users had to reset the preferences to be removed from the lists. I use Yahoo extensively and have never had a problem with it. Jeff, KR4YS Every man is presumed to know the law, except his Majesties Judges, who have the Court of Appeals to set them straight. ----Original Message Follows---- From: John Oppenheimer Reply-To: john@KN5L.net To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: Re: The Truth about Yahoo Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:32:05 -0600 Thank you Rob, all today I have been wondering why there has been all of the negative comments about Yahoo. I have been a member of Yahoo from 1999, lots of groups, shopping, etc, and have never had a problem. I must have set the preferences way back then and forgot about them. Little more, sign on -> Acct. Info -> enter passwd -> Edit your marketing preferences -> change all to No. John Rob Matherly wrote: > NA4FM (Buck) wrote: > > >>Every email address I have ever used on Yahoo is massively spammed. It >>doesn't matter what setting I use, I always get spam from Yahoo. >>Therefore, I avoid Yahoo with a passion. Sorry, the problems are not >>un-founded. >> >> > > > All you have to do is go into your preferences an uncheck all the boxes > that 'permit them' from sending you spam. I'm subscribed to roughly > twenty-five Yahoogroups and don't get a single ad from them. > _________________________________________________________________ Watch high-quality video with fast playback at MSN Video. Free! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200365ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: Philip L Carter To: KD5NWA Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168601] Re: The Truth about Yahoo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is espically true IF you signed up by email and not by going to the web site. You can't get to any preferences this way since you don't have a yahoo account and don't have a password. They gotcha! Phil On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, KD5NWA wrote: > You don't necessarily get the spam from Yahoo. > > I setup a several new address some time back and used them for over 3 month > without receiving a single spam email on those address, but within 10 hours > of signing up for a Yahoo group with one of the addresses the SPAM started > pouring in, the same thing happened with a second email account I set up. > > I personally will not sign up for another Yahoo email list again. > > > At 12:44 PM 2/19/2004, Karl Larsen wrote: > >On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Lee Bahr wrote: > > > > > Do you want to filter all my junk mail I am getting on Yahoo because my > > > address is leaking out to the whole world from lists I have joined there? > > > > > > Your wrong. As I have said I have a list QRPDX and no-one has > >ever got a spam from that list. > > > > > > > If we go Yahoo, I'm out of here! > > > > Too bad. > > > > > > We have plenty of alternative choices > > > light years better then Yahoo Groups. I do not have worry of Yahoo, just > > > contempt and experience with them! They will not be my alternative. > > > Lee, w0vt > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people on this list have expressed a real worry about the > > > > Yahoo lists. This is un-founded. A Yahoo list can be moderated. When you > > > > join the list you can ask for the messages to be sent to you as > > > > individual or a daily bunch of them. You can send a message to the list > > > > just like you do now with QRP-L. > > > > > > > > Yahoo is on the Nazdac exchange and it makes money. It makes > > > > some of it putting ads for ink and other stuff at the end of your > > > > messages. If you choose any other list server they will either charge > > > > you, or eat the cost themselves. Nothing is free. > > > > > > > > There are a lot of ham radio lists already on Yahoo and they > > > > work just like QRP-L. So do not be afraid of Yahoo. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > Cecil > KD5NWA NRE/COLE Test Center OH-3 pcarter@gcfn.org or wd8qwr@arrl.net Philip L. Carter, WD8QWR wd8qwr@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.na ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:58:43 -0800 (PST) From: Nelson Winter To: "Paul , VE1DY" , Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168602] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice Message-ID: <5089846.1077224323078.JavaMail.thenels@gomailjtp05> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, You're no alone. I haven't reveived a conformation either. Nelson Winter WB6DWD -----Original Message----- From: "Paul , VE1DY" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Date: Thu Feb 19 12:20:00 PST 2004 Subject: Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice >Hi Trev... thanks for the e-mail. > >I tried signing up to qrp-l@mailman.qth.net last night, but it I haven't rec'd an approval notification yet. My current web based mail that I have been using lately is eudoramail, but I signed up for softhome this morning. > >So far I haven't rec'd approval for either address yet. Others seem to have been approved. Maybe it's because I'm so far away (just kidding)! > >72, Paul >-- > >--------- Original Message --------- > >DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:45:11 >From: "Trevor Jacobs" >To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" >Cc: > >>Hey Paul, >> >>Softhome.net is my e-mail account, the QRP-L list that many of us have gone >>to is at qth.net. The signup page is: >> >>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l >> >> > > >Need a new email address that people can remember >Check out the new EudoraMail at >http://www.eudoramail.com ___________________________________________________ Check-out GO.com GO get your free GO E-Mail account with expanded storage of 6 MB! http://mail.go.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:20:17 -0500 From: "Fred \(VE3FAL\)" To: "'Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion'" , Subject: [168603] 21.070 Message-ID: <01d101c3f72e$2e67d9a0$9004d3d8@flesnick> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wondering if anyone else is hearing the sound effects being broadcast on 21.070 at 21:19 z today.... About 5x5 here in Thunder Bay,Ontario... Fred VE3FAL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:25:49 -0800 From: Bob Nielsen To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168604] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice Message-ID: <20040219212549.GA3075@office.n7xy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I received a rejection notice! Then I looked further down the page and my name and callsign were requested so I replied with that information. Nothing heard since then. Bob, N7XY On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 12:58:43PM -0800, Nelson Winter wrote: > Hi Paul, > You're no alone. I haven't reveived a conformation either. > > Nelson Winter > WB6DWD > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Paul , VE1DY" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Date: Thu Feb 19 12:20:00 PST 2004 > Subject: Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice > > >Hi Trev... thanks for the e-mail. > > > >I tried signing up to qrp-l@mailman.qth.net last night, but it I haven't rec'd an approval notification yet. My current web based mail that I have been using lately is eudoramail, but I signed up for softhome this morning. > > > >So far I haven't rec'd approval for either address yet. Others seem to have been approved. Maybe it's because I'm so far away (just kidding)! > > > >72, Paul > >-- > > > >--------- Original Message --------- > > > >DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:45:11 > >From: "Trevor Jacobs" > >To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > >Cc: > > > >>Hey Paul, > >> > >>Softhome.net is my e-mail account, the QRP-L list that many of us have gone > >>to is at qth.net. The signup page is: > >> > >>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:30:44 -0600 From: Rob Matherly To: flesnick@tbaytel.net Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168605] Re: 21.070 Message-ID: <40352B04.8020000@jetnetinc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fred (VE3FAL) wrote: >Wondering if anyone else is hearing the sound effects being broadcast on >21.070 at 21:19 z today.... >About 5x5 here in Thunder Bay,Ontario... > > It's not another case of someone leaving their vox on, is it? Back when I had a rig capable of receiving the frequency, I'd always hear the trademark sound effect of an incoming AOL instant message on 14.230. -- 72/73/oo - Rob, W0JRM - jimrob@jetnetinc.net - ARRL MEMBER FPQrp -330; QRPp-I #19; WATPK #1; SOC #442; ARS #1143 Are you a gun nut? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gun_nut_hams http://www.robmatherly.com <--- Not ham related! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:36:18 -0500 From: "David LeDuc" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168606] RE: 21.070 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was hearing it this morning. It was spread out from 21.070 all the way down to 21.025. I thought is was my RX at first. Then I thought Oh my God I hope it isn't BPL. Dave N1IX -----Original Message----- From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of Fred (VE3FAL) Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:20 PM To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: 21.070 Wondering if anyone else is hearing the sound effects being broadcast on 21.070 at 21:19 z today.... About 5x5 here in Thunder Bay,Ontario... Fred VE3FAL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:44:35 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: "Fred (VE3FAL)" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168607] Re: 21.070 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Fred (VE3FAL) wrote: > Wondering if anyone else is hearing the sound effects being broadcast on > 21.070 at 21:19 z today.... > About 5x5 here in Thunder Bay,Ontario... It's also weak here but it's an AM broadcast station playing oriental music. I checked and it's not a second harmonic... > > Fred > VE3FAL > > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:40:44 -0600 From: Chuck Carpenter To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168608] [QRP-L]: failure notice -- new subscriber overload? Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20040219154044.00855100@mail.9plus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Maybe a sudden intense surge of new subscribers is slowing things down... [g] Chuck Carpenter, W5USJ, Point, Rains Co., TX - EM22cv, NETXQRP #1 QRP-ARCI #5422, QRP-L #1306, QRPp-I #115, ARS #1280, SOC #57 Zombie #759, COG #11, 6 Club #201, FP #601 oo http://www.netxqrp.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:40:46 -0500 From: "Mike Lyness, AF4LQ" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168609] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20040219163353.00a034c0@mail.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:25 PM 2/19/04, Bob Nielsen wrote: >I received a rejection notice! Then I looked further down the page and >my name and callsign were requested so I replied with that information. >Nothing heard since then. Same here. I imagine that Jim Lowman is overloaded by now and it may take awhile. That's OK with me. Based on my experience with the Elecraft, CW, and FISTS lists based at QTH.net I think this is a good choice for the new home of QRP-L. Guess we'll see. 73, Mike af4lq ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:46:13 -0500 From: "John" To: "QRP-L" Subject: [168610] FT-817 help needed Message-ID: <000f01c3f731$d0791440$eb958b41@ATHOME> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is kind of a long story so I'll try to keep it short. The problem is that when I turn the rig on I get a blinking display. Everything looks good on the display and all of the panel functions work including the menus. If I try to transmit the screen goes blank with the exception if TX ERROR being displayed. It all started when I needed to replace the set control which I did with the help of a local friend of mine but while re-assembling the front panel the header latch on the main board broke which I was able to fix using hot glue and the rig worked fine. Today I needed to pull the front panel again and in doing so I pulled the cable out of where I had fixed it so I needed to fix it again. I noticed this problem after fixing the header/cable and that I had hit two of the pins for the optional filter and they were touching. Don't know if I did any damage doing that. Any help/advice would be appreciated. Thanks. John K2JHU... Melbourne Beach, FL South Island Real Estate johndorson@worldshare.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:01:20 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Sevart To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168611] Re: 21.070 Message-ID: <20040219220120.74818.qmail@web9609.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Fred (VE3FAL)" wrote: > Wondering if anyone else is hearing the sound > effects being broadcast on > 21.070 at 21:19 z today.... > About 5x5 here in Thunder Bay,Ontario... Yesterday I heard some sound effects on as I was trying to work PSK. It's not unusual, since I often hear the "bonk" of the Windows default chimes on various PSK frequencies. ===== Tom Sevart N2UHC Frontenac, KS http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:06:24 -0500 From: "Brian Riley (maillist)" To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168612] Ridiculous!!!!! Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I was very busy earlier this week and only began late last night and today to wade through all the messages on the the 'end' of QRP-L, its 'demise', "too many chiefs," the evil menace of YahooGroups, a public lynching of a member based on vague supposition, etc. The one positive thing I can see so far is that is that the handful of people for whom I reserve my highest respect have either kept their mouths shut or only spoken appropriate well-deserved words of thanks to Jim for all his years of service to us. The hoopla is ridiculous ... JUST WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE HERE? ... We came here to talk QRP ... The only thing we should be hearing on this subject here is discussion to answer the simple question "how do we go about keeping the list going post 2/29?" In my rarely very humble opinion QRP-L has created a community that is the single most valuable resource in all of ham radio. So lets not take shots at each other, put down the AMQRP, whine about YahooGroups, whatever ... let us, instead, put our energy towards finding out what we can do to keep it alive ... cheers ... 73 de brian, n1bq ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:06:49 -0500 From: Jim Stiles To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168613] Subscribe Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040219170608.02ece638@mail-hub.optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Jim Stiles W2NJN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:16:50 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168614] qrp-l on qsl.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I got my email telling me that I'm now part of this list. It is like most first emails and tells you how to get help. It also says this: If you are going to use the QTH system and you believe Ham Radio is the greatest hobby in the world, please please contribute to this work. As you can imagine this is an expensive operation, if you care to contribute, please do it today. Donations are not required to use this system, but that is how we grow. By Credit Card https://proxy.qsl.net/donation PayPal http://www.paypal.com (account k3tkj@qsl.net) BidPay http://www.bidpay.com (account k3tkj@qsl.net) Donations by mail: QSL.NET, Inc 34087 Old Hickory Road Laurel, Delaware 19956 I hope this makes my point. If we use this service we should help with donations. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:11:15 -0800 From: "Trevor Jacobs" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168615] Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice Message-ID: <006b01c3f735$4b50cde0$0d0b280a@etclink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Nelson and all, I wouldn't worry too much about getting approval, it probably has to be done manually by the list owner and with so many of us joining in the next few days, there may be a little delay. Hope this all gets smoothed out soon and we can get back to business as usual. Take care... 73's Trev KG6CYN http://www.qsl.net/kg6cyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Winter" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice > Hi Paul, > You're no alone. I haven't reveived a conformation either. > > Nelson Winter > WB6DWD > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Paul , VE1DY" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Date: Thu Feb 19 12:20:00 PST 2004 > Subject: Re: [QRP-L] Test...Fwd: failure notice > > >Hi Trev... thanks for the e-mail. > > > >I tried signing up to qrp-l@mailman.qth.net last night, but it I haven't rec'd an approval notification yet. My current web based mail that I have been using lately is eudoramail, but I signed up for softhome this morning. > > > >So far I haven't rec'd approval for either address yet. Others seem to have been approved. Maybe it's because I'm so far away (just kidding)! > > > >72, Paul > >-- > > > >--------- Original Message --------- > > > >DATE: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:45:11 > >From: "Trevor Jacobs" > >To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > >Cc: > > > >>Hey Paul, > >> > >>Softhome.net is my e-mail account, the QRP-L list that many of us have gone > >>to is at qth.net. The signup page is: > >> > >>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l > >> > >> > > > > > >Need a new email address that people can remember > >Check out the new EudoraMail at > >http://www.eudoramail.com > > > ___________________________________________________ > Check-out GO.com > GO get your free GO E-Mail account with expanded storage of 6 MB! > http://mail.go.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:11:16 -0800 From: "john gabbard" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168616] rebuilding HW8 bandswitch Message-ID: <005901c3f735$4c0c7cc0$f3811c0c@john> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to thank the gentleman who suggested that the 4 gang switch could be rebuilt and I insisted it couldn't! Well, a fool is born everyday,I just happened on single push button switches of the same type used by Heath in the 4 gang version and I will be able to remove the old single units and retain the push button mechanism. After installing the new single units, its just a matter of reinstalling the complete 4 gang switch as the original was soldered in. The reason for this was, the unavailability of these switches now adays. If you are reading this sir, I wish to thank you for your suggestion. I wish you Best Regards, 73' John KF7OM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:15:17 -0600 From: "John Cook" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [168617] RE: Ridiculous!!!!! Message-ID: <410-220042419221517558@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Very well put Brian, enough is enough , I turning off the computer and playing QRP radio for a while! 73/72 John Cook K6ERO otterc@earthlink.net > [Original Message] > From: Brian Riley (maillist) > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Date: 2/19/2004 4:06:43 PM > Subject: Ridiculous!!!!! > > I was very busy earlier this week and only began late last night and today > to wade through all the messages on the the 'end' of QRP-L, its 'demise', > "too many chiefs," the evil menace of YahooGroups, a public lynching of a > member based on vague supposition, etc. > > The one positive thing I can see so far is that is that the handful of > people for whom I reserve my highest respect have either kept their mouths > shut or only spoken appropriate well-deserved words of thanks to Jim for all > his years of service to us. > > The hoopla is ridiculous ... JUST WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE HERE? ... We came > here to talk QRP ... The only thing we should be hearing on this subject > here is discussion to answer the simple question "how do we go about keeping > the list going post 2/29?" > > In my rarely very humble opinion QRP-L has created a community that is the > single most valuable resource in all of ham radio. > > So lets not take shots at each other, put down the AMQRP, whine about > YahooGroups, whatever ... let us, instead, put our energy towards finding > out what we can do to keep it alive ... > > cheers ... 73 de brian, n1bq > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:19:22 -0500 From: Charles Coffee To: n1bq_list@wulfden.org Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168618] Re: Ridiculous!!!!! Message-ID: <4035366A.3030205@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian Riley (maillist) wrote: > I was very busy earlier this week and only began late last night and today > to wade through all the messages on the the 'end' of QRP-L, its 'demise', > "too many chiefs," the evil menace of YahooGroups, a public lynching of a > member based on vague supposition, etc. > > The one positive thing I can see so far is that is that the handful of > people for whom I reserve my highest respect have either kept their mouths > shut or only spoken appropriate well-deserved words of thanks to Jim for all > his years of service to us. > > The hoopla is ridiculous ... JUST WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE HERE? ... We came > here to talk QRP ... The only thing we should be hearing on this subject > here is discussion to answer the simple question "how do we go about keeping > the list going post 2/29?" > > In my rarely very humble opinion QRP-L has created a community that is the > single most valuable resource in all of ham radio. > > So lets not take shots at each other, put down the AMQRP, whine about > YahooGroups, whatever ... let us, instead, put our energy towards finding > out what we can do to keep it alive ... > > cheers ... 73 de brian, n1bq > > > Good call Brian 73.. Chuck KJ4GU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:29:04 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: John Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168619] Re: FT-817 help needed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, John wrote: > This is kind of a long story so I'll try to keep it short. > > The problem is that when I turn the rig on I get a blinking display. > Everything looks good on the display and all of the panel functions work > including the menus. If I try to transmit the screen goes blank with the > exception if TX ERROR being displayed. I think your wrong to even attempt what you and your friend did. To do it a second time is real dumb! You will need to do it a third time and if that works LEAVE IT ALONE!!!! > > It all started when I needed to replace the set control which I did with the > help of a local friend of mine but while re-assembling the front panel the > header latch on the main board broke which I was able to fix > using hot glue and the rig worked fine. Today I needed to pull the front > panel again and in doing > so I pulled the cable out of where I had fixed it so I needed to fix it > again. I noticed this problem after fixing the header/cable and that I had > hit two of the pins for the optional filter and they were touching. Don't > know > if I did any damage doing that. > > Any help/advice would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > John K2JHU... > Melbourne Beach, FL > South Island Real Estate > johndorson@worldshare.net > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:23:39 -0600 From: KD5NWA To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" , qrp-l@mailman.qth.net Subject: [168620] Re: Next kit offering Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040219161427.02318b90@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed DDS Signal Generator (option), and if it has sweep mode one could use it also to check filter alignment, front end tuning etc. Keyer output to send test pattern to the transmitter, and check it out while having low duty cycle. At 11:36 AM 2/19/2004, Steven Weber wrote: >Here's a heads up on the next kit I plan on developing for this coming >summer. > >It will be a test box for working on QRP rigs. It will intergrate a number >of test functions into one box. > >1. 10 watt dummy load >2. RF power meter >3. RF volt meter >4. Frequency counter >5. AF signal generator >6. Possibly pervisions for adding a NJQRP DDS daughter board for RF signal >generation >7. Suggestions for additional functions welcome. > > >72, >Steve, KD1JV >"Melt Solder" >White Mountains of New Hampshire >http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ Cecil KD5NWA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:27:49 -0500 From: "John" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168621] Re: FT-817 help needed Message-ID: <001f01c3f737$9f6c4240$eb958b41@ATHOME> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you karl for you encouragement. Your a real help... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Larsen" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: Re: FT-817 help needed > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, John wrote: > > > This is kind of a long story so I'll try to keep it short. > > > > The problem is that when I turn the rig on I get a blinking display. > > Everything looks good on the display and all of the panel functions work > > including the menus. If I try to transmit the screen goes blank with the > > exception if TX ERROR being displayed. > > > I think your wrong to even attempt what you and your friend did. > To do it a second time is real dumb! You will need to do it a third time > and if that works LEAVE IT ALONE!!!! > > > > > > > It all started when I needed to replace the set control which I did with the > > help of a local friend of mine but while re-assembling the front panel the > > header latch on the main board broke which I was able to fix > > using hot glue and the rig worked fine. Today I needed to pull the front > > panel again and in doing > > so I pulled the cable out of where I had fixed it so I needed to fix it > > again. I noticed this problem after fixing the header/cable and that I had > > hit two of the pins for the optional filter and they were touching. Don't > > know > > if I did any damage doing that. > > > > Any help/advice would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > John K2JHU... > > Melbourne Beach, FL > > South Island Real Estate > > johndorson@worldshare.net > > > > > > -- > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:32:07 EST From: ARDUJENSKI@aol.com To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168622] Emergency Field Kit Message-ID: <11.22e8e41d.2d669367@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Before heading off on the trail (short or long trip) I found the following invaluable for an emergency (besides the Snickers Bars): ---A dozen or so WIRE NUTS of various sizes. You attach any wires with these wire nuts (Thanks to KU7Y) including coax. ---Dental Floss. You can get a 100 yards or more of strong stuff in a small package (Ain't that the tooth--) ---Couple of fishing sinkers to help get those lines up in the trees ---Chem Lites: I get these from the marine seriving places (expired date wise ones for free) and use them for emergency lights at night. ---Small spool of enameled wire (say 50 yards of #30) ---Elastic tubing to make a sling shot out of a branch ---Space blanket ---EPS-1 DC-DC (DC converter kit that takes an input of anywhere from 2 to 16 volts DC and brings it to 12 volts) What do some of you take along QRP hikes for emergencies? Alan KB7MBI ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:37:03 -0600 From: "George, W5YR" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168623] Re: QRP-L at QSL.NET Message-ID: <028f01c3f738$ec5ddef0$0402a8c0@PS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Lowman in my experience working with him is tops as a list owner and moderator. We can expect fair and even-handed treatment. I am sure that he is dealing with this flood of subscription requests as best he can. 73, George W5YR w5yr@att.net http://www.w5yr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Larsen" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:51 PM Subject: QRP-L at QSL.NET > > I joined the list called QRP-L on qsl.net and it's easy and the > owner of the list has to approve you. This is because the darn spam > people will try to join your list! I had to do the same thing with > qrpdx@yahoo.com, and I killed the request to join of about 10 Spammers. > > I found the email address of the owner and sent him an email > asking him about moderation of a large group. > > the owner of this list will have a lot to say about how well it > works. I do not know a J.M. Lowman, but he seems to be the owner of this > list. > > -- > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:38:56 -0500 From: "Jason Hsu" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168624] Do I need a new soldering iron? Message-ID: <009b01c3f739$2ad981c0$64923144@aoldsl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do I need a new soldering iron? I don't have enough soldering experience to know if I'm using a good one or a bad one. I'm not sure if my soldering skills or my soldering iron is at fault. The soldering iron I've been using is the Radio Shack 15W/30W soldering iron. Much of the soldering iron has gunk on it, including the part that connects to the soldering iron tip. I have begun trying to solder by heating the wire instead of heating the solder directly, and it often takes too long to melt the solder, more than the few seconds I think it's supposed to take. (This is very noticeable when the lead touches a neighboring area of solder. I think the other area of solder acts as a heat sink.) On eham.net, the Radio Shack soldering irons are heavily panned: http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/318 Note that the average rating is only 2.1 out of 5. 3 of the 8 ratings are 0, and 1 of the 8 ratings is 1. Even the more positive reviewers say it's not as good as other brands like Weller. What do you all think? Should I replace my Radio Shack soldering iron with a Weller? Or can my soldering problems be attributed to a lack of skill on my part? Jason Hsu, AG4DG personal AAAATTTT jasonhsu.com http://www.jasonhsu.com/ee.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eeham/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/resume_hyperinflation_fighters/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gmu-ece-control ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:40:11 -0700 From: "John" To: "QRP-L" , "QRP-Lx" Subject: [168625] DDS Daughter Card Message-ID: <000901c3f739$569f8fc0$6401a8c0@HP5400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just received my daughter card from Kitbuilders. They soldered the DDS chip on the board for me and did a fantastic job as compared to the one I did. Mine doesn't work and theirs works great. John K7SVV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:50:00 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [168626] qrp-l and qsl.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just got 25 messages from the New qrp-l list. This list appears to be where qrp-l will be for the near future. To join this list point your browser to: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l and give it your email address you want the list email to go to and a simple password like your first name and in a few hours, Jim Lowman will get around to letting you in. He is super busy now because the whole list is rushing over to sign in...:-) In my opinion this is the best of many possible solutions. And I had nothing to do with it...hi -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:53:32 GMT From: ultrafixedwing@juno.com To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Message-ID: <20040219.145432.524.901912@webmail10.nyc.untd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Please tell me how to unsubscribe from the list. I come home from work and have to delete tons of messages that have nothing to do with qrp. Thanks, Paul KS2S ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:50:39 -0600 From: "George, W5YR" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168628] Re: The future of QRP-L Message-ID: <02f301c3f73b$a493b2e0$0402a8c0@PS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, the new address is qrp-l@mailman.qth.net . Glad to see you over there. 73, George W5YR w5yr@att.net http://www.w5yr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nielsen" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:44 PM Subject: Re: The future of QRP-L > It appears that the consensus is to use qrp-l@qth.net for the > replacement list. A nice feature is that QTH uses Mailman, which > automatically creates archives. > > -- > Bob Nielsen, N7XY n7xy (at) n7xy.net > Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.n7xy.net > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:01:19 +0000 From: Howard Oakley To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168629] Re: Emergency Field Kit Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 19/2/04 22:32, ARDUJENSKI@aol.com wrote: > Before heading off on the trail (short or long trip) I found the following > invaluable for an emergency (besides the Snickers Bars): [snip] > ---Space blanket Alan, That's an excellent list bar that one item. I add all sorts of other bits and pieces, including a superb coax connector adaptor set from Bird (you can find these at rallies sometimes), and a suite of Leatherman and Swiss Army multi-tools. But I must point out that a space blanket is a very poor substitute for a nice heavy-gauge plastic 'bivvi' bag (agricultural fertiliser bags suitably cleaned are free and ideal). 'Space blankets' try to work by a flawed theory, that reducing radiant heat loss reduces body heat loss. In space, this is true, but on earth wind and water (rain) are much more potent - and space blankets are pretty flimsy and useless at combating either. Several scientific studies of different types of survival bag have been performed (we did our own a few years ago), and all to date have shown a plain heavy plastic bag, to reduce convective heat loss and eliminate evaporative heat loss, is much better. 72, Howard. Dr Howard Oakley Isle of Wight, UK M1BWR (IO90JO, EU-120) Active from 80 m to 23 cm QRP ARCI 11583; UKSMG 1718; ARRL; RSGB; RNARS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:04:51 -0700 From: "John_Evans" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168630] Re: Emergency Field Kit Message-ID: <200402191604.AA348717616@mail.codenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii .....and if anyone is searching for a replacement for the EPS-1 DC-DC Converter, check out and for a suitable replacement. 72 - john - n0hj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:08:02 -0700 From: "Bob Hightower" To: "qrp" Subject: [168631] New QRP List? Message-ID: <012f01c3f73d$397d6210$6501a8c0@Bobs> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What I am waiting to hear is where the folks who run Atlanticon, Lobstercon, Ozark-con, Pacificon and the other gatherings, as well as those who offer the great kits that have become available, to let us know which list they are going to be on. Then, I will decide which one to join. All the infighting about which service or list is best is just so much background noise. Bob NK7M ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:03:43 -0600 From: "George, W5YR" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Message-ID: <032501c3f73d$a6af7c10$0402a8c0@PS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, it was a matter of who could hear George and a large dose of luck for the two of us who could. He was barely audible above the noise here in North Texas - he is in the central part of the state about 250 miles away. Missed him the first round last Fall but got lucky this time. Believe me, all the Tornados tried their best to pick George out of the noise and QRM. In this area, the band can be counted on to start going long at around 0230 at the latest and sometimes sooner. So, you work the tough ones as early as possible. With George, I got REAL lucky! 73, George W5YR w5yr@att.net http://www.w5yr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "rattray" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:20 PM Subject: Fox - Fox Hunt Teams Results... > Holy Schmoly Batman!...the Cheeseheads have pulled ahead by 2 but the > Cajun Thunder & the Underdogs only have 1 point separating them!...it's > still a race!...Team Air Pork and the Raiders are holding steady with 3 > pelts between them and it looks like some of the NE-TX Tornados stopped > at the bar for a drink!...I heard a rumour that Batgirl was at the bar > as well... ;-) ..if we'd only thought of this earlier > eh!?!...hihihi.... > > Hunt # 34 - K5TR - > > QRP Cheeseheads - 116 Cajun Thunder - 114 > > Jerry - N9AW * Wayne - K5EOA * > Rick - NK9G * Clean Wayne - N5YFC > Gary - W9XT * Sweep Vern - AA5O * > Lon - W9XU * Jim - N5IB * > Jim - WA9TZE * Chris -KD5UDB > > The Underdogs - 113 Team Air Pork - 69 > > Dan - N4ROA * Wayne - K9DI > Dennis - N4DD * Clean Mike - KD5KXF > Bob - KB2FEL * Sweep Dave - AG4PJ * > Dave - W0CH * Randy - W9HL * > Ron - KI0II * Jerry - N0JRN > > Raiders of the Lost RF - 66 The NE-TX Tornados - 140 > > Rob - VE6JAZ * Bill - K5JHP > Craig - VE4WI * Don - K5DW > Fred - VE3FAL Doc - W5TB > Earl - VA6RF Lew - N5ZE * > Bruce - VE5RC * George -W5YR * > > ...please e-mail me direct with corrections, changes...tnx.... > > ...72/73 - Bruce (VE5RC+VE5QRP) QRP-C#1 QRP-L#886 ARCI#9683 Zombie#272 > A-1 Operator Club - 10/10# 944 - QRP Borg#1 - Whiner#10 - > - VE5QRP SOC#11 - VE5RC SOC#12 - oo#148 - K2#2032 - COG#15 - > "QRP! How sweet it is!" "I am da man wit "DAH" paddle!" > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:11:37 -0500 From: Joel M Denison To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [168633] BUT ED... U DON'T UNDERSTAND Message-ID: <20040219.181138.1528.0.hamjoel@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A PERSON can not say anything negative about arci on this list without being met by e-mail from the president of arci on down on how nothing negative is supposed to leave the orginization and definetly not end up on a public list... Arci, is alrady very secretive or so it would appear... as no information is supposed to be passed on except what the pres and board approve.... you are in a position, as a new board member, to "look under the carpet" and (I still trust you to be truthful even when I don't think you have it entirely correct...) say it's clear, not so bad, or in the process of being corrected... You gots integerity man....and just changing the phone number isn't going to work here... some butts need to be kicked and the one doing the kicking has to be "apart" so as not to be succeptable to "round about" methods of coercion... staying clear till the smoke clears, may not be a bad idea... in this case.. and congradulations on ur election, the arci has been a great bunch of folks over the years, at least to my knowledge... and I kneaux ur gonna make it even better... U might want to stay clear of this one (the demise ) as clear thinking isn't going to be an asset as things get heated...... KE1LA Joel Denison Strong, Maine, 04983 Freezin solid up heah ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:27:12 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Mike WA8BXN" To: , Subject: [168634] Re: Do I need a new soldering iron? Message-ID: <40354650.00000F.03260@etower> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would go with a weller. If you plan to use it a lot and can afford it, I would go with a temperature controlled model. A good iron can make a noticeable difference. You kind of get what you pay for, radio shack does not have any good irons in the stores. 73/72 - Mike WA8BXN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:27:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Majewski To: qrp-l Subject: [168635] FOX: W8RU Final Fox Log Message-ID: <20040219232731.39018.qmail@web80205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks again to everyone and 72/3! Ron (W8RU). ---------------------------- QRP-L 40M Fox Hunt Hunt Number 34 Op: W8RU, Ron QTH: Commerce Twp, MI TX/RX Ant: 2el Force-12 yagi at 75ft 0200 K0EVZ 559 599 NM DOC 4W 0201 K5OI 559 559 OK TIM 5W 0202 KK5LD 559 599 TX DAN 4W 0203 W0ANM 559 559 MN CHRIS 5W 0204 K9TJL 559 559 IL TJ 5W 0204 W5TB 559 559 TX DOC 5W 0205 AG0T 559 559 ND TODD 4W 0206 N1FN 559 559 CO ET 5W 0207 W0NTA 559 559 CO DICK 5W 0207 N0UR 559 579 MN JIM 5W 0208 K3PH 559 599 PA BOB 5W 0209 VE5RC 559 559 SK BRUCE 5W 0210 K6VNX 559 559 CA ARLEN 5W 0210 K5JHP 559 559 TX BILL 5W 0211 W5YR 559 559 TX GEORGE 5W 0212 NN0F 559 579 IA JOHN 5W 0213 AC5JH 559 559 OK TOM 5W 0214 KC1FB 559 559 CT JIM 5W 0214 K6XR 559 559 CA REG 5W 0215 KL7V 559 559 OK SAM 5W 0216 KJ0C 559 559 MO JIM 5W 0217 VE6EX 559 559 AB DAN 5W 0217 KT5V 559 559 TX DAVID 5W 0218 WA8ZBT 559 559 TX DENNIS 5W 0219 AA5O 559 559 LA VERN 5W 0220 KZ5J 559 599 TX PAT 3W 0220 K7VF 559 559 CA JEFF 5W 0221 WZ4L 559 599 TN WOODY 5W 0222 WA5BDU 559 559 AR NICK 3W 0222 N0TK 559 579 CO DAN 5W 0224 VE6JAZ 559 559 AB ROB 5W 0224 K4BYF 559 559 FL JACK 5W 0225 K5DI 559 559 NM KARL 5W 0226 K0LOA 559 559 TX DWAIN 5W 0227 K5UV 559 559 OK MIKE 5W 0227 K5PSH 559 559 TX JERRY 5W 0228 KI0II 559 559 CO RON 5W 0229 AC7A 559 559 AZ TOM 5W 0229 W2XS 559 599 NY JOHN 5W 0230 W5HNS 559 559 TX HENRY 5W 0231 K5GQ 559 559 TX MARK 5W 0232 KN5L 559 559 TX JOHN 5W 0233 KI0RB 559 559 CO VINCE 5W 0234 K7TQ 559 559 ID RANDY 5W 0234 N5ZE 559 559 TX LEW 5W 0235 W0CH 559 559 MO DAVE 5W 0237 WA2AXD 559 559 NJ BOB 5W 0238 K0FRP/4 559 559 FL AL 5W 0239 K5DW 559 559 TX DON 5W 0241 K5EOA 559 559 LA WAYNE 5W 0241 NK6A 559 559 CA DON 5W 0242 W6UR 559 559 CA LOU 5W 0243 KG0PP 559 559 CO JIM 5W 0244 K5SR 559 559 TX DALE 5W 0245 W5USJ 559 559 TX CHUCK 5W 0245 N1TP 559 559 FL TOM 5W 0247 N4DD 559 559 TN DENNIS 5W 0248 W0UFO 559 559 MN MERT 5W 0248 N4ROA 559 559 VA DAN 5W 0249 K0UU 559 559 MN JEFF 5W 0250 K6IA 559 559 CA WARD 5W 0251 N7MFB 559 559 WA BILL 5W 0252 W7ILW 559 559 AZ WALT 5W 0253 N5YFC 559 559 LA WAYNE 5W 0254 K4PV 559 579 FL JIM 5W 0254 W0PWE 559 559 IA JERRY 5W 0256 KG6CYN 559 559 CA TREV 5W 0258 KD5UDB 559 559 LA CHRIS 5W 0300 W2XN 559 559 FL FRED 5W 0300 N5IB 559 559 LA JIM 5W 0301 KR0U 559 559 CO TIM 5W 0302 VE4WI 559 559 MB CRAIG 5W 0303 AB8DF 559 559 MI ED 5W 0303 N7CQR 559 559 OR DAN 5W 0305 NB7F 559 559 OR LEE 5W 0306 W4NJK 559 559 CA CHARLIE 5W 0308 NO4D 559 559 SC KEN 1W 0309 K0PC 559 559 MN PAT 5W 0310 N3BJ 559 559 VA ALAN 5W 0310 N0DT 559 559 MO DAN 5W 0311 AG4PJ 559 559 AL DAVE 5W 0312 N9NE 559 559 WI TOM 5W 0313 N0DSP 559 559 CO TOM 5W 0314 W6AZ 559 559 CA RON 5W 0317 N3GJ 559 559 NM GEORGE 5W 0323 KJ7HX 559 559 OR JERRY 5W 0325 W2LJ 559 449 NJ LARRY 5W 0327 W9XT 559 449 WI GARY 5W 0329 WA9TZE 559 239 WI JIM 5W 0332 KC0GXX 559 559 NE TOM 2W 0334 AJ4AY 559 559 AL JAY 5W 0348 AF4LQ 559 559 KY MIKE 5W 0357 WA9TZE 559 239 WI JIM 5W 0358 NK9G 559 559 WI MIKE 5W 0359 N9AW 559 559 WI JERRY 5W 0400 K5TR xxx xxx TX FOX 5W 0400 W8RU xxx xxx MI FOX 5W ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:34:59 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: Bob Hightower Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168636] Re: New QRP List? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Bob Hightower wrote: > What I am waiting to hear is where the folks who run Atlanticon, Lobstercon, > Ozark-con, Pacificon and the other gatherings, as well as those who offer > the great kits that have become available, to let us know which list they > are going to be on. > > Then, I will decide which one to join. > > All the infighting about which service or list is best is just so much > background noise. Hi Bob, it's the QRP-L list on the qsl.net server where everyone is going. If you need help let me know. > > Bob NK7M > > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:06:07 -0500 From: "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [168637] Re: Next kit offering Message-ID: <0a9501c3f723$d0542f80$6401a8c0@mydomain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you'd better......... ( - :) Dick K2JQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schreibmaier" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Next kit offering > Now ducking and running for cover... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:37:52 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: "George, W5YR" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168638] Re: your mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi George, move over to the list on qsl.net where we are are all going. It's going to work fine! Bruce is already there. On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, George, W5YR wrote: > Actually, it was a matter of who could hear George and a large dose of luck > for the two of us who could. He was barely audible above the noise here in > North Texas - he is in the central part of the state about 250 miles away. > Missed him the first round last Fall but got lucky this time. Believe me, > all the Tornados tried their best to pick George out of the noise and QRM. > In this area, the band can be counted on to start going long at around 0230 > at the latest and sometimes sooner. So, you work the tough ones as early as > possible. With George, I got REAL lucky! > > 73, George W5YR > w5yr@att.net > http://www.w5yr.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rattray" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:20 PM > Subject: Fox - Fox Hunt Teams Results... > > > > Holy Schmoly Batman!...the Cheeseheads have pulled ahead by 2 but the > > Cajun Thunder & the Underdogs only have 1 point separating them!...it's > > still a race!...Team Air Pork and the Raiders are holding steady with 3 > > pelts between them and it looks like some of the NE-TX Tornados stopped > > at the bar for a drink!...I heard a rumour that Batgirl was at the bar > > as well... ;-) ..if we'd only thought of this earlier > > eh!?!...hihihi.... > > > > Hunt # 34 - K5TR - > > > > QRP Cheeseheads - 116 Cajun Thunder - 114 > > > > Jerry - N9AW * Wayne - K5EOA * > > Rick - NK9G * Clean Wayne - N5YFC > > Gary - W9XT * Sweep Vern - AA5O * > > Lon - W9XU * Jim - N5IB * > > Jim - WA9TZE * Chris -KD5UDB > > > > The Underdogs - 113 Team Air Pork - 69 > > > > Dan - N4ROA * Wayne - K9DI > > Dennis - N4DD * Clean Mike - KD5KXF > > Bob - KB2FEL * Sweep Dave - AG4PJ * > > Dave - W0CH * Randy - W9HL * > > Ron - KI0II * Jerry - N0JRN > > > > Raiders of the Lost RF - 66 The NE-TX Tornados - 140 > > > > Rob - VE6JAZ * Bill - K5JHP > > Craig - VE4WI * Don - K5DW > > Fred - VE3FAL Doc - W5TB > > Earl - VA6RF Lew - N5ZE * > > Bruce - VE5RC * George -W5YR * > > > > ...please e-mail me direct with corrections, changes...tnx.... > > > > ...72/73 - Bruce (VE5RC+VE5QRP) QRP-C#1 QRP-L#886 ARCI#9683 Zombie#272 > > A-1 Operator Club - 10/10# 944 - QRP Borg#1 - Whiner#10 - > > - VE5QRP SOC#11 - VE5RC SOC#12 - oo#148 - K2#2032 - COG#15 - > > "QRP! How sweet it is!" "I am da man wit "DAH" paddle!" > > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:34:14 -0600 From: "Craig Johnson" To: Subject: [168639] Re: Elmer 160 Message-ID: <008801c3f740$e2d6c740$6201a8c0@cbjp2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jean, >Hello everyone, >My PIC-EL kit is complete now and I am going to the test stage. >It feel good. We will see it the little baby is alive later. Great! >For now I wonder .... >Do you use some kind of box for the PIC-EL ? >Does not seem practical to use a box, unless the cover is open !!! Please! Put it in the plastic box: PacTec CM5-125 (also available from Mouser 616-63049-510-039). I spent too much time trying to get the silly mounting holes on the PIC-EL board to line up properly with the mounting holes of that box (moving parts around) to have nobody use it! :-) Seriously, you don't really need a box, although it is nice. I would suggest using something, however. You can use some sort of stand-offs instead. Just having it lay flat on a workbench is asking for trouble - too easy to short out the traces on the bottom with stray pieces of wire or other "things" on the bench. I know! (The box offers the best protection.) >For now my kit will run on 12V gellcell battery. >Does someone could tell me the average current use by the PIC-EL >Maybe I could put it on a plastic plate with a small battery. >Tell me what you did with your PIC-EL > >73 de Jean (VE2GHI) The latest measurements that I made (with a PIC-EL prototype) resulted in the following current draws: PGM mode - without Daughtercard - 13 ma PGM mode - with Daughtercard attached - 88 ma RUN mode - without Daughtercard - 13 ma RUN mode - with Daughtercard active (running PICELgen code) - 138 ma RUN mode - without Daughtercard but speaker active at 4000 Hz - 65 ma RUN mode - with speaker active and Daughtercard powered but not initialized - 185 ma (This is worst case - with the Daughtercard NOT initialized.) 72, Craig, AA0ZZ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:29:07 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: Jason Hsu Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168640] Re: Do I need a new soldering iron? Message-ID: <403546C3.E2EDE296@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jason, My vote would be for more skill. I have used soldering irons that are over 20 years old with very good success. In fact before I bought a temperature controlled soldering station I used an old Weller handle with interchangeable heating elements and replaceable tips. I bought the assembly in 1974, and still use it. For a temperature controlled iron I use a military surplus station I bought from Fair Radio Sales back in the mid 90s. There is no substitute for experience. Without experience your joints will always look like a beginner's first joints Get some experience and your joints will get consistently better until you can be proud to show them off. Soldering is not an easily acquired skill; it takes practice, practice, and more practice. Even now with about 50 years gone since I made my first solder blob, I think I would practice a few joints before I soldered a project. Get yourself a soldering guru and spend a few evenings with him. Listen to what he has to say about your techniques and solder joints, and try to improve each time. It won't rake long but the payoff will be great. Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:45:43 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: "George, W5YR" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [168641] Re: QRP-L at QSL.NET Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, George, W5YR wrote: > Jim Lowman in my experience working with him is tops as a list owner and > moderator. We can expect fair and even-handed treatment. I am sure that he > is dealing with this flood of subscription requests as best he can. Yes he is and lots are waiting now I expect, but it looks as though the change to qsl.net will be orderly and prompt. Sure makes me feel good! > > 73, George W5YR > w5yr@att.net > http://www.w5yr.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karl Larsen" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:51 PM > Subject: QRP-L at QSL.NET > > > > > > I joined the list called QRP-L on qsl.net and it's easy and the > > owner of the list has to approve you. This is because the darn spam > > people will try to join your list! I had to do the same thing with > > qrpdx@yahoo.com, and I killed the request to join of about 10 Spammers. > > > > I found the email address of the owner and sent him an email > > asking him about moderation of a large group. > > > > the owner of this list will have a lot to say about how well it > > works. I do not know a J.M. Lowman, but he seems to be the owner of this > > list. > > > > -- > > > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:40:48 -0500 From: "Joseph Trombino Jr" To: "QRP-L" , "QRP-L QTH" Subject: [168642] RX and TX oscillator settings Message-ID: <009d01c3f741$cd546160$220110ac@gateway.2wire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy Gang: Am dual posting to both lists to see if my first message gets thru on the new list. Just completed the RH-40 and RH-20 rigs and have a question about the RX and TX oscillator frequency relationship. Given an IF frequency and IF crystals at 9mhz what should the appropriate RX and TX oscillator frequencies be as read on a freq counter??? Should it be something like TX at 9.000 mhz and RX at 8999.250 mhz??? The RX oscillator of course being at the product detector and the TX oscillator being at the TX mixer. I just aligned both rigs up by ear using my ARGO V and they sound fine. I just want to know if such a rig can be set up by using a freq counter only. Thanks for any assistance that can be rendered. 73, Joe W2KJ North Carolina I QRP, therefore I am ------------------------------ End of QRP-L Digest 3202 ************************ --------------------------------