Article: 335746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rob Mills" Subject: WTB: Battery door, GE Super 2 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:16:04 -0500 I need a battery door for a GE 72885A (pretty sure the 72885b will also work) Super 2. I have tried the doors for Super 1 & 3 and they don't work. Thanks, Rob Mills Article: 335747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gilbert M. Smith" Subject: Rider Chanalyst Probes Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:09:08 -0700 Does anyone know the correct value of the capacitors located in the RF-IF and Oscillator probes used with the RCA Rider Chanalyst 162-C? According to the schematic of this unit there is a capacitor in each one of these probes, but no value is listed for these caps. The VTVM probe has the typical 1 Meg resistor which is identified, but not the caps in the other two probes. I'm asking because I need to make a new set of probes for this instrument. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Gilbert Article: 335748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <448E8FD3.40FDD5CD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT: Hurricane!!!! References: <02qjg.4145$WM4.1952@trnddc01> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:14:05 GMT Tom Adkins wrote: > > Oh my,Gary, you had better head for the hills. Destruction is imminent! The End is > near! The sky is falling, we must hurry and tell the King! My electricity was out till 5:33 AM, and I'm not even in the main path of Alberto. The last hurricane related outage was several weeks. Marion county is still under a tornado watch. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Telephony: Matching Transformer for Subset-Replacement Mini-Network From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," Message-ID: <_Rwjg.21572$mF2.17454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:56:58 GMT If someone here has the knowledge and generosity to give it, then I'd like the spec for the matching transformer of the N-205, or of some similar mini-network for retrofitting old telephone subscriber sets to work with modern phone lines. Article: 335750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Telephony: Matching Transformer for Subset-Replacement Mini-Network Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:26:06 -0400 Message-ID: <128t86of0cvdub2@corp.supernews.com> References: <_Rwjg.21572$mF2.17454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> http://www.phonecoinc.com/ John H. Article: 335751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: term "solid state" From: "mike48151" References: <128jsifjbbh02dd@corp.supernews.com> <1149906467.591623.116650@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <6dedncRsZNVyKRfZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:07:47 GMT On 10-Jun-2006, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >> Tubes are "hollow state". > > The most-commonly used term is "vacuum state". Which is an intentional > contradiction, as a vacuum is not a state of matter. A vacuum is a state of _space_. Article: 335752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: term "solid state" From: "mike48151" References: <128jsifjbbh02dd@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:26:23 GMT On 9-Jun-2006, "David Axt" wrote: > Where did that come from? The term "solid state physics" was established before the first commercial production of transistor radios. Solid state physics was-and-is concerned with the properties -- including the electrical properties -- of solids. Article: 335753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Telephony: Matching Transformer for Subset-Replacement Mini-Network From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <_Rwjg.21572$mF2.17454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <128t86of0cvdub2@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:34:01 GMT On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:26:06 GMT, Hagstar wrote: >> If someone here has the knowledge and generosity to give it, then I'd like the spec for the matching transformer of the N-205, or of some similar mini-network for retrofitting old telephone subscriber sets to work with modern phone lines > > http://www.phonecoinc.com/ That's a good place from which to buy the networks, but they don't provide the spec for the transformer. In fact, I have a network got from PhoneCoInc, but the transformer is unmarked (unless on its underside where it meets the board). Article: 335754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst Probes References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:33:20 -0400 The Chanalyst book says 1 pf in the RF and OSC probes. Ken Gilbert M. Smith wrote: > Does anyone know the correct value of the capacitors located in the RF-IF > and Oscillator probes used with the RCA Rider Chanalyst 162-C? According to > the schematic of this unit there is a capacitor in each one of these probes, > but no value is listed for these caps. The VTVM probe has the typical 1 > Meg resistor which is identified, but not the caps in the other two probes. > I'm asking because I need to make a new set of probes for this instrument. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Gilbert > > Article: 335755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <02qjg.4145$WM4.1952@trnddc01> Subject: Re: Hurricane!!!! Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:24:46 -0700 Message-ID: <448ecab0$0$65427$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Gary, I've been getting a chuckle over the media coverage also. I lived just up the coast from you (near St.Pete Beach) for 25 years, and have gone through countless hurricanes myself. The vast majority are no big deal, and hyping up minor storms just causes folks a lot of grief. Most folks that live in areas that are at risk know what to do. Save the coverage for storms that matter. Steve Article: 335756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <02qjg.4145$WM4.1952@trnddc01> <1150204180.719407.271750@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Hurricane!!!! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:30:30 GMT We have to put this on every so often to keep from being overrun by tourists . . . Actually, last year there was some sort of survey in the newspaper, that showed some small town in Utah to be the safest place to live. It's the place that's least likely to be affected by hurricanes, tornadoes, severe drought, earthquakes, winter storms, or whatever else. There's no denying that a hurricane can do some serious damage, and as the rainy season approaches we need to remain alert and prepare. Still, one must also consider that Florida is a very large state -- Pensacola is closer to Chicago than to Key West -- and being a rather isolated state, with its only land boundaries to the north, most of the country considers Florida to be some faraway place. So when "Florida" is mentioned on some hurricane map, one thinks the entire state is about to be demolished, and nothing can be further from the truth. A lot of hurricanes have hit the Carolinas. Some have hit Virginia, Delaware, and even Cape Cod. Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama are frequent targets. Sarasota, Florida has never had a recorded hit from a hurricane since they began keeping records in the 1840's. Now -- the strange thing is that there is no scientific evidence that shows as to why these storms hit Cedar Key and Naples, but never Sarasota. There is probably something related to the water currents that has a tendency to push it away. Still, Port Charlotte/Punta Gorda are also somewhat immune, and Arcadia, being an interior city, would never even think of having such a problem. Charley changed all that. So, who knows? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1150204180.719407.271750@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > One of the Top Ten Reasons why I got the heck out of Fla. You can > have it all. > Article: 335757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <02qjg.4145$WM4.1952@trnddc01> <448ecab0$0$65427$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Subject: Re: Hurricane!!!! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:43:04 GMT I think the big potential problem we have is -- if Sarasota were to actually get a big one, the destruction would be tremendous. Why? Though most homes are built to hurricane standards, many are not -- particularly older ones. Plus there are trees and greenery that, unlike certain other areas where the weak ones get blown away every few years, has been sitting dormant for many years. A little serious wind can make a real mess. But then, if we were to get a second one in, say 5 years, it wouldn't make much difference. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steve" wrote in message news:448ecab0$0$65427$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... > Gary, > I've been getting a chuckle over the media coverage also. > I lived just up the coast from you (near St.Pete Beach) for > 25 years, and have gone through countless hurricanes myself. > The vast majority are no big deal, and hyping up minor > storms just causes folks a lot of grief. Most folks that live > in areas that are at risk know what to do. > > Save the coverage for storms that matter. > > Steve > Article: 335758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Looking for Majestic 71 or 72 Chassis From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:00:48 GMT I had a lady ask me to try to locate a Majestic model 71 or 72 chassis and power supply... so if anyone has one laying around... please send us an email.. email to us is k9uwa at arrl dott net thanks John k9uwa Article: 335759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "bob meader" Subject: Need RCA flyback Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:22:46 -0700 Message-ID: Need flyback for 721TS TV. A flyback from 630TS should also work. If someone has a junk 721TS or 630TS/830TS junk chassis willing to sell that's OK as well. Article: 335760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith tuning shaft thingy question From: noone@telus.com References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:01:45 GMT On 12-Jun-2006, Blacksmith wrote (and posted a good picture of): > It's a type of set screw with a circular spring steel part wrapped > around it. What is it and what's if for??? After reading Mr. Wiecks adequate explanation, the thought occured to me that it could also be one way of repairing a stripped setscrew hole without having to take the assembly apart. Haggis. Article: 335761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: How does this plug come apart? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:41:44 -0400 I have posted a couple of links to photos of a plug used to connect the power supply to the radio chassis on an early Simplex Electric AC set. No markings on the plug, and no obvious way to take it apart so that the wiring can be replaced. I don't want to risk breaking it by forcing something not meant to be forced! It is a little over 1" in diameter. Has anyone seen one of these before and been successful in disassembling it? If so, I would really appreciate knowing the secret! http://mcclellans.com/plugside.jpg http://mcclellans.com/plugend.jpg Thanks! Dave Article: 335762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: Need 17" Predicta Flyback Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:49:07 -0400 I need to try and find a flyback (new or good/used) for a 17" Philco Predicta, chassis 10L43. The Philco part number is 32-8899-1. I have been told (but not confirmed) that a Halldorson 192 or 221 will substitute. I have already checked with those who advertise parts or repairs on the Early Television Foundation site classified ads, and checked with Gary Schneider, Don Patterson, and continue to check eBay for leads. Any ideas? Thanks! Dave Article: 335763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: Stylus Pressure - 78 RPM Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:56:19 -0400 Anyone know a reasonable stylus pressure for a 78 RPM radio/phono with Astatic crystal cartridge and steel needle? I plan on using a postal scale to set it. I assume the pressure is normally in the ounces range vs grams! I have a modern stylus pressure gauge but it only goes up to 3 grams. This is sort of an unusual radio phono, in that the radio is a 1.5/90 volt farm battery set, and the phono motor is the WIND UP type (well DUH). Any other suggestions as to pressure measurement procedures would be appreciated. There is no adjustment per se. There was apparently a spring (now missing) on the pivot end of the phono arm. I plan on replacing it and then adjusting the tension. Thanks! Dave Article: 335764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith tuning shaft thingy question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:27:43 GMT In article , blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >It's a type of set screw with a circular spring steel part wrapped >around it. What is it and what's if for??? > >picture on binaries. >Blacksmith standard zenith part .. all the 1938 ones have it.. and maybe a few of the other years as well.. its just the Zenith method of attaching the pulley for the belt to the main tuning shaft... and yes it enough load is placed on it... it will slip ... I tightened up one about 2 weeks ago and must have tightened it too tight... the spring steel part broke.... it was rusty so maybe... anyway... swiped one from the boneyard chassis in the garage stash ... all is well once again with that Zenith John k9uwa Article: 335765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: NJARC Makes The Evening News Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1150169858.513516.219430@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1150169858.513516.219430@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "dave@hurtle.com" writes: >They found $10K in a radio they were auctioning off and gave it back to >the rightful owner! >It was just on the news. Here's the story from their website: >http://www.njarc.org/10000radio.htm Kudos to those gentlemen. Reaffirms my faith in humanity! Thanks for that news item, Dave. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 335766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Need 17" Predicta Flyback Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Dave McClellan" writes: >I need to try and find a flyback (new or good/used) for a 17" Philco >Predicta, chassis 10L43. The Philco part number is 32-8899-1. I have been >told (but >not confirmed) that a Halldorson 192 or 221 will substitute. I have already >checked with those who advertise parts or repairs on the Early Television >Foundation site classified ads, and checked with Gary Schneider, Don >Patterson, and continue to check eBay for leads. >Any ideas? >Thanks! >Dave Did you check this guy? http://www.wadictatv.com/ -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 335767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith tuning shaft thingy question From: noone@telus.com References: <1150217455.780281.67810@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6xIjg.59453$JX1.32889@edtnps82> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:13:54 GMT On 13-Jun-2006, "Eddie Brimer" wrote: I agree wholeheartedly that a heli-coil will do that type of job neater and better. I'm familiar with them, having "paid my penance" so to speak, in the Rub-Al-Khali desert, The Australian outback, the Ecuadorian Andes, etc. etc. for more years than I care to think about. Good ol' McMaster-Carr came to my rescue many times :-). I'm sure Mr. Wieck is familiar with the modern Saudi Arabian telephone setup while he was there but my memories are of the main telephone exchange in Al Khobar having a sizeable hole knocked in the wall with, I'm sure, every cotton covered wire in the country entering the exchange through that hole! Should I say it? "You youngsters have it easy today" :-). Helicoil sets with their special taps, especially in the smaller sizes, just weren't that easy to come across in an oil production facility on a Friday :-). I "thought" I was at the time, but I have since discovered that in the late '60s, I wasn't smart enough to think of the idea of putting a strap around the shaft with a nut 'n' bolt - of course we hadn't heard of cyanoacrylate back then:-). And - the radio we used to listen to the outside world was a German set. IIRC it was a Braun transistor portable which knocked the socks off the Zenith Transoceanic one of the guys had for it's ability to pick up the BBC, VOA and Radio Moscow. BTW, there are alternatives to HeliCoils. Their names escape me right now, but they did not require the special taps used in the helicoil system. I'm sure many newcomers will appreciate the helicoil information, which is what it's all about. Haggis. Article: 335768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Raytheon CK716 Picture Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:37:07 -0400 Message-ID: I need a shot of a Raytheon CK716 transistor for the Website. If anyone can provide a shot, please email me directly at service@transistor-repairs.com Thanks, Jim Article: 335769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Stylus Pressure - 78 RPM Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:54:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1150245528.234762.55940@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> > Dave McClellan wrote: > > Anyone know a reasonable stylus pressure for a 78 RPM radio/phono with > > Astatic crystal cartridge and steel needle? I plan on using a postal scale > > to set it. I assume the pressure is normally in the ounces range vs grams! > > I have a modern stylus pressure gauge but it only goes up to 3 grams. > > > > This is sort of an unusual radio phono, in that the radio is a 1.5/90 volt > > farm battery set, and the phono motor is the WIND UP type (well DUH). > > > > Any other suggestions as to pressure measurement procedures would be > > appreciated. There is no adjustment per se. There was apparently a spring > > (now missing) on the pivot end of the phono arm. I plan on replacing it and > > then adjusting the tension. > > > > Thanks! > > Dave > > Hi Dave: > > 3 G or more! Set it up as light as it will play loud passages without > skipping. 3 grams with crystal (or diamond tipped) catridge is IMHO too less weight. If the crystal cartridge is using steel needles I would tend to 30 grams ;-) If the catridge has some (hardened?) rubber involved ... OK if you like harmonic (or disharmonic) distotions ;-) Kind Regards, Georg Article: 335770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150244490.724890.228510@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What did this?????????? Message-ID: <9jJjg.12245$OL2.4588@trnddc06> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:07:17 GMT It's always good to know what caused the fire in the first place -- although it sounds like in your case you need to replace all the components in the area. I suppose we've all got stories of smoldering radio chassis. I recall a car radio, a 65 T-Bird AM/FM, which as you all know are my favorites. These Bendix radios have a 0.3 ohm power resistor in series with the output transistor. Since the audio is direct-coupled, any capacitor or transistor leakage causes the output transistor to do the thermal -- and it usually takes this resistor with it. On this particular radio, someone replaced the power transistor, and jumpered over that resistor -- after all, what's 0.3 ohms? When I got the radio it was burned to a crisp. It WAS repairable (darn it!) by carefully running wires where many of the traces used to be. I found a leaky electrolytic -- replaced all elecs, then put in a new output transistor -- and yes, installed a 0.3 ohm resistor. It looked like heck but it worked. I also recall, when growing up, my dad splurged for a color TV. We had it for a few months and it got struck by lightning. I distinctly remember a chassis that was pristine on top and black underneath. I wasn't quite a CET yet, but my dad indeed got it going again. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1150244490.724890.228510@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > I'm restoring a Zenith 15S373 for a friend. The top of the chassis is > pristine. Underneath, there has been a fire. The whole right half of > the chassis is burned: insulation burned off of all wiring, terminal > strips destroyed, band switch destroyed (I have another). At first I > just figured that something shorted and started a fire. But, that > seems improbable. The power transformer is still good (thank > goodness). The rectifier tubes tested good with no shorts. It looks > like someone took a blow torch to it. Has anyone else experienced this > or is this a frustrated repairman getting even with a cantankerous > chassis? Thanks for relating any experiences. > Dave > Article: 335771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Stylus Pressure - 78 RPM Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:05:25 -0400 "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:ZDFjg.570$mN3.289@fe02.lga... > Anyone know a reasonable stylus pressure for a 78 RPM radio/phono with > Astatic crystal cartridge and steel needle? I plan on using a postal > scale > to set it. I assume the pressure is normally in the ounces range vs > grams! > I have a modern stylus pressure gauge but it only goes up to 3 grams. a) Unless you had the cartridge rebuilt, it is most probably dead or will die on first try. Hardened rubbers (dampers) will cause the steel needle to chatter in the grooves and most likely cause irreversible damage to the record. b) There is no simple answer to your question. It would be analogous to asking: Hey, I have a blue car, what psi should I inflate the tires ? The cartridge model number along with the data from Astatic will tell you exactly what weight (most likely between 15 and 30g) you should use. > This is sort of an unusual radio phono, in that the radio is a 1.5/90 volt > farm battery set, and the phono motor is the WIND UP type (well DUH). Lemme guess...Philco ? I have one like that. "Portable" radio with a wind-up phonograph using a crystal Astatic cartridge. Syl Article: 335772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: term "solid state" From: "mike48151" References: <128jsifjbbh02dd@corp.supernews.com> <1150229984.634653.159270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:47:00 GMT On 13-Jun-2006, "Steven" wrote: > Crystal sets must be solid-state by that reasoning? Certainly a decent text on solid-state physics would have explained the crystal part of that crystal set. Of course, the term "solid state" gained greater currency for describing whole devices exactly when solid-solid state components had _replaced_ vacuum tubes, as a way of _distinguishing_ such devices. While the first radios did not use crystals (instead using a coherer), the first practical, commercial radios (indeed, the first radios good for more than binary telegraphy) did, so there wouldn't have been a comparable sense of replacement having occurred. Article: 335773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Can I substitute a 50C5 for a 25C5 Tube? Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:07:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1149295644.081050.123880@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1149383900.708531.62510@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1149420511.693705.311320@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4482CF6E.2575F17F@earthlink.net> <1149465039.652201.308590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <4483A573.3E7CC16D@earthlink.net> <1149646466.371057.217630@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1149763406.387463.193350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150219047.436328.314340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Trading idler wheels on most changers won't affect the speed. If you do the math, there is a speed reduction from the motor shaft to the idler and another from the idler to the turntable. When you calculate the total reduction, the size of the idler drops out and you are left with the ratio of the diameter of the motor shaft to the diameter of the turntable. That also means if you swap motors from a changer with a different turntable diameter, it will run at the wrong speed even though the motor runs at the right speed; the motor has the wrong diameter shaft. The big exception to this rule are the turntables that have "2 step idler wheels". In these, the motor drives one size wheel and a different size wheel drives the turntable. Then the size of the wheels is important. The little 45RPM changers made by RCA are a prime example of this design. Perforated metal is available in a number of patterns. The first place to look is your local home improvement store or large hardware store. If they have something you like, you can probably buy a small piece. If they don't have anything nice, you could check with a metal dealer or on the Web. You may have to buy a 4' X 8' sheet. If you use metal, be sure to mount it so it doesn't rattle. Have fun -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 335774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: (OT) Phone Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:05:23 -0500 Message-ID: <2561-448F6EE3-248@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Western Electric desk type phone,dates back to the 1930's.I want to get it to where I can use it.I think I might need a bell box with the bells for the phone.Anybody got something like that for sale? cuhulin Article: 335775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Hurricane!!!! Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:16:17 -0500 Message-ID: <2560-448F7171-1200@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150170890.596411.55180@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I think Alberta is a province in Canada. cuhulin Article: 335776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Hurricane!!!! Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:11:34 -0500 Message-ID: <2560-448F7056-1199@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <02qjg.4145$WM4.1952@trnddc01> Look around the archives thingy at www.chuckbaldwinlive.com concerning hurricanes. I think those weather people want a big bad hurricane so much they just can't stand themselves. cuhulin Article: 335777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: (OT) Phone From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <2561-448F6EE3-248@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:32:41 GMT On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:05:23 GMT, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Western Electric desk type phone,dates back to the 1930's.I want to get > it to where I can use it.I think I might need a bell box with the bells > for the phone.Anybody got something like that for sale? Subset are almost always for sale on eBay. They can also be found at such places as PhoneCoInc also sells a combined mini-network and warbler. It would give you all the essential functionality of a subset with a ringer, albeit that it would indeed warble instead of ringing. Article: 335778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Hurricane!!!! Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:22:43 -0500 Message-ID: <2560-448F72F3-1201@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Katrina ripped about ten shingles off the very top of the roof of my house.Doggy and I were holding out in my dining room.I looked out the window and that big talllllll pecan tree in my front yard,right at the base of the tree,it was dancing around like a wild Indian on camp kickapoo joy juice.And I live 180 miles North of the Gulf Coast. cuhulin Article: 335779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:39:13 -0500 Message-ID: <2560-448F76D1-1202@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Well,Thanks,but what I want must be real genuine original old,old phone bells. cuhulin Article: 335780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: (OT) Phone From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <2560-448F76D1-1202@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:54:31 GMT On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:39:13 GMT, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Well,Thanks,but what I want must be real genuine original old,old phone bells. Then you want a real genuine original old, old subset with a ringer (but not with _just_ a ringer); and a place such as PhoneCoInc will sell you one of those, or you can get it on eBay. Article: 335781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: (OT) Phone From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1150253540.053809.240330@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:56:21 GMT On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:52:20 GMT, Steven wrote: >> Well,Thanks,but what I want must be real genuine original old,old phone bells. > > Go rip 'em off the side of McTavishes' milking barn. McTavish'll have none o' that, now! Article: 335782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: source for volume controls From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <128iu138rb1873b@corp.supernews.com> <1149882284.545635.169440@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <47bjg.28288$%m5.8185@trnddc04> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:03:53 GMT On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:56:21 GMT, Tim Mullen wrote: >> However, if they need odd carbon, wirewound, concentric shaft, ganged shaft, >> or whatever, they will find that here! > > You might want to leave the part about "gangs" out of this thread. :) Given that the Feds have a renewed interest in decency and in mine safety, the word "shaft" might provoke a couple of agencies. Article: 335783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: source for volume controls Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <128iu138rb1873b@corp.supernews.com> <1149882284.545635.169440@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <47bjg.28288$%m5.8185@trnddc04> In "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," writes: >On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:56:21 GMT, Tim Mullen wrote: >>> However, if they need odd carbon, wirewound, concentric shaft, ganged shaft, >>> or whatever, they will find that here! >> >> You might want to leave the part about "gangs" out of this thread. :) >Given that the Feds have a renewed interest in decency and in mine safety, the word "shaft" might provoke a couple of agencies. All we need to do now is mention how Mark's controls are da bomb and Article: 335784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <2561-448F6EE3-248@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:16:49 -0500 Message-ID: <448f804d$0$3669$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote in message news:2561-448F6EE3-248@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > Western Electric desk type phone,dates back to the 1930's.I want to get > it to where I can use it.I think I might need a bell box with the bells > for the phone.Anybody got something like that for sale? > cuhulin > Another alternative, especially if you're financially challenged is to buy a beaten Western Electric 302 phone, preferably with no dial and a broken case. $25 ought to be enough for that. Or just find somebody who is selling just the guts; it happens sometimes. Here's an example (in fact, this would be perfect) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6637061325 The bells, network and capacitor are identical to what is found in the subsets. You can use those guts and mount them in any appropriate box you can find. http://www.atcaonline.com/diagrams.html has the diagrams you need to hook it up. Real WE subsets can run $50 or more plus shipping. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 335785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:41:01 -0500 Message-ID: <6233-448F935D-1114@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: An old buddy of mine retired out of the U.S.Navy.Not to say that he is an old phone freak (he is really an old Railroad freak) but he has an old Western Electric working pay phone (you don't have to pay,an old ex phone guy friend of his fixed that phone up for him) in his garage behind his house.I am trying to talk him (trying to figure out what I can trade him) out of one of his old Railroad glass batteries.I Know,sooner or later,I am going to wind with one of those batteries. cuhulin Article: 335786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:42:24 -0500 Message-ID: <6233-448F93B0-1115@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <448f804d$0$3669$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Thanks,but I dont do ebay. cuhulin Article: 335787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Hurricane!!!! Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:50:49 -0500 Message-ID: <6235-448F95A9-57@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: I have lived up North before,Indiana 1947,Montana 1956,Kansas 1957.U.S.Army at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois 1963 and SL 60 near Pacific,Missouri,1963 (ARADCOM,Nike Hercules Nuclear Missiles) cuhulin Article: 335788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith tuning shaft thingy question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <39su82ptuqlkmjkukv4d1qhee3tq6hqu7r@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:59:18 GMT In article <39su82ptuqlkmjkukv4d1qhee3tq6hqu7r@4ax.com>, blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > > >I think I'm seeing the picture now. The hole through the collar must >be smooth sided rather than threaded and the set screw is just forced >down onto the shaft through the hole by the spring steel. > >That sound right, John? >Blacksmith yup all that screw does is apply pressure to the tubing tuning shaft.. maybe they were afraid of a tapped hole and someone tightening the set screw too tight.. denting the tubing?... when you set that pulley leave about 1/32" between it and the side of the chassis.... just a hair of slop if you will.... Is this a motor drive chassis?... if so the dial drive belt.. not too tight.. and the motor drive belt... very loose so that the motor spins up to max RPM almost instantly and the dial begins to spin and catches up with the motor.. otherwise you run the risk of burning up the motor... thats an expense you don't want to have.. John k9uwa Article: 335789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gilbert M. Smith" References: Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst Probes Message-ID: <71Ojg.28808$QP4.18476@fed1read12> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:29:34 -0700 Dale, Ken: Many thanks for your input and help. It is greatly appreciated!! Gilbert "Gilbert M. Smith" wrote in message news:eoujg.28787$QP4.22446@fed1read12... > Does anyone know the correct value of the capacitors located in the RF-IF > and Oscillator probes used with the RCA Rider Chanalyst 162-C? According to > the schematic of this unit there is a capacitor in each one of these probes, > but no value is listed for these caps. The VTVM probe has the typical 1 > Meg resistor which is identified, but not the caps in the other two probes. > I'm asking because I need to make a new set of probes for this instrument. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Gilbert > > Article: 335790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: BC-348-Q Repairs - Looking for advice Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:29:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7eidneQ0feztBRLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@velocitywest.com> H. P. Friedrichs wrote: > I cannot seem to get the BFO working, however. The resistors around the > BFO seem to check out ok. The condition of the caps are unknown at this > time, though I have not run across bad silver micas or the pF dogbones. Congratulations on getting this far....The BC-348 is a good, classic military radio and quite a good listener when fully restored. You need to examine every resistor in the set. Some of them can and will drift upward in value quite substantially as they age under the best conditions, and most of these radios were used under conditions that are far from the best. If any resistor measures more than about 10% off the marked value, I would replace it. > > I know the larger uF caps are prone to dry out and deteriorate, but I > tried shunting a few of them with alligator leads and known-good units. > It didn't seem to make much difference. Shunting the caps is not a particularly effective troubleshooting technique because most of these caps are not open, but leaky. Shunting a good one across a leaky one will have minimal noticeable impact on performance unless one lead of the original cap is disconnected first. Come to think of it, you might as well replace all the paper and electrolytic caps in this radio. Most of them are probably going to be bad anyway. > > What are my options? Is there a common failure mode for the BFO in this > set? Short of removing parts and testing them out-of-circuit what are my > options? Does anyone have a functional BC-348 Q who could give me > nominal voltage readings around the pins of the VT-233 that I could > compare with mine? > I don't have a BC-348 presently, but this site has manuals freely available for download that will tell you practically everything you need to know about this radio in almost nauseating detail: http://www.jamminpower.com/main/bc348.jsp The files there are huge, but these are the clearest BC-348 manual scans I have ever seen...Well worth the download. > Side note: The crystal filter also appears not to work. Basically, it > behaves like an open...nothing gets past it, unless bypassed by the > switch. Do these particular crystals tend to deteriorate and die with > age? What do you replace it with, a crystal ground to the IF freq? You will probably have to get one from a junker BC-348 chassis. IIRC, the IF frequency of this radio is 910KC, which is somewhat unique. -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 335791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: (OT) Phone From: "Hesham Elmokadem" References: <448f804d$0$3669$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <6233-448F93B0-1115@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <5CPjg.24409$mF2.1910@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:17:05 GMT On 13-Jun-2006, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Thanks,but I dont do ebay. I did eBay. It told me that it was on the pill. Then it gave me a call and said that it was pregnant. Now I'm stuck with child-support payments for the next couple of decades! Article: 335792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: Stylus Pressure - 78 RPM Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:04:28 -0400 "Syl" wrote in message news:nhJjg.28296$U84.529796@wagner.videotron.net... > b) There is no simple answer to your question. It would be analogous to > asking: Hey, I have a blue car, what psi should I inflate the tires ? > The cartridge model number along with the data from Astatic will tell > you exactly what weight (most likely between 15 and 30g) you should use. The cartridge was rebuilt by West-Tech Services. Where would I find the Astatic data you mentioned? It is an L-26-A. I'll try contacting West-Tech. Should have thought of that before! > > > This is sort of an unusual radio phono, in that the radio is a 1.5/90 volt > > farm battery set, and the phono motor is the WIND UP type (well DUH). > > Lemme guess...Philco ? I have one like that. "Portable" radio with a wind-up > phonograph using a crystal Astatic cartridge. Actually, Northern Electric (Canada) > > Syl Article: 335793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: Need 17" Predicta Flyback Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:06:34 -0400 "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:e6ni0b$fhb$1@reader2.panix.com... > In "Dave McClellan" writes: > Did you check this guy? > > http://www.wadictatv.com/ Yup - he is one of the advertisers on the ETF website. No help. Tried all Google links also. Dave Article: 335794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: BC-348-Q Repairs - Looking for advice From: "mike48151" References: <7eidneQ0feztBRLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@velocitywest.com> <1150282492.739858.160400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:33:54 GMT On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:54:52 GMT, Peter Wieck wrote: >> IIRC, the IF frequency of this radio is 910KC, which is somewhat unique. > > "...somewhat unique." > ....a little bit pregnant. > ....almost alive. > > GRRRRRR....... > > Either it is, or it isn't. However, "almost" doesn't mean _a_bit_; indeed, if there were only two of something, then each could be _almost_ unique. > Otherwise, the advice is directly on point. Yep. Article: 335795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: BC-348-Q Repairs - Looking for advice Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:10:16 -0700 Message-ID: <18162-44900AB8-11@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150282492.739858.160400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> >From Peter: >"...somewhat unique." >....a little bit pregnant. >....almost alive. > >GRRRRRR....... >Either it is, or it isn't. Somewhat fuddy-duddy. :-) oc Article: 335796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150289610.111828.85050@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:22:30 GMT On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:53:30 GMT, Peter Wieck wrote: > This spam may be reported to: > > service@audiogon.com Perhaps also to abuse@secure.net hosts for audiogon.com. Article: 335797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <1150244131.710055.196300@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How does this plug come apart? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:12:32 -0400 Thanks to a member of the AWA reflector, the shell just screws off! The trick is to plug it into its mating socket and THEN unscrew the shell, so that the inner part is not damaged. It was very difficult to remove, and took some force and OIL to get it to move after 90+ years! Thanks, Dave "nesesu" wrote in message news:1150244131.710055.196300@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Dave, I would suggest that that centre pin might unscrew. It looks like > the centre pin had a tension spring in the groove and I am wondering if > it has been pushed back into the case with only a reminant showing at > the top [back] of the pin. That spring may also lock the centre pin > from turning. It looks typically British in design, so it can be quite > obscure how to open it. > > Neil S. > > Dave McClellan wrote: > > I have posted a couple of links to photos of a plug used to connect the > > power supply to the radio chassis on an early Simplex Electric AC set. No > > markings on the plug, and no obvious way to take it apart so that the wiring > > can be replaced. I don't want to risk breaking it by forcing something not > > meant to be forced! It is a little over 1" in diameter. > > > > Has anyone seen one of these before and been successful in disassembling it? > > If so, I would really appreciate knowing the secret! > > > > http://mcclellans.com/plugside.jpg > > > > http://mcclellans.com/plugend.jpg > > > > Thanks! > > Dave > Article: 335798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Mutch Subject: Re: BC-348-Q Repairs - Looking for advice Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:31:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7eidneQ0feztBRLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@velocitywest.com> H. P. Friedrichs wrote: > I recently acquired a BC-348 Q in fairly decent shape and have set about > getting it into useable condition. > > First, I found a dead tube (open filament). Since some of the others > tested weak on my tester, I collected a full complement of NOS tubes > and repopulated the set. No go. > > Next, I found a wiring error made by somebody who had attempted the 28v > to 6 volt filament conversion. The error left both sides of one of the > tube's filaments hooked to A+, i.e. no way it could light up. This was > easily corrected. > > Once I fixed this, I could hear stations...albeit faintly. While poking > around the 1st RF section, I found an open (literally cracked open) > plate resistor. With that replaced, the radio generates enough volume to > drive a small speaker to comfortable levels. > > I cannot seem to get the BFO working, however. The resistors around the > BFO seem to check out ok. The condition of the caps are unknown at this > time, though I have not run across bad silver micas or the pF dogbones. > > I know the larger uF caps are prone to dry out and deteriorate, but I > tried shunting a few of them with alligator leads and known-good units. > It didn't seem to make much difference. > > What are my options? Is there a common failure mode for the BFO in this > set? Short of removing parts and testing them out-of-circuit what are my > options? Does anyone have a functional BC-348 Q who could give me > nominal voltage readings around the pins of the VT-233 that I could > compare with mine? > I would like to help. I have a 348Q in quite good working shape, but I would not be able to get into it to take measurments for about 10 days due to family upheaval. You can download a manual from the BAMA site, which should give voltage and resistance norms. > Side note: The crystal filter also appears not to work. Basically, it > behaves like an open...nothing gets past it, unless bypassed by the > switch. Do these particular crystals tend to deteriorate and die with > age? What do you replace it with, a crystal ground to the IF freq? > > I'd be interested in corresponding with somebody who has been successful > in restoring one of these radios. My email address is > > hpf atsign gainbroadband dotcom > > Thanks, > Pete > AC7ZL Article: 335799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Mutch Subject: Re: BC-348-Q Repairs - Looking for advice Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:36:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7eidneQ0feztBRLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@velocitywest.com> <1150282492.739858.160400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: >>IIRC, the IF frequency of this radio is 910KC, which is somewhat unique. > > > > "...somewhat unique." > ....a little bit pregnant. > ....almost alive. > > GRRRRRR....... Actually a 910 khz IF makes a great deal of sense in a rig with an XTAL filter, low frequency coverage and no broadcast band. It gives a considerable improvement in image rejection on the higher bands. The XTAL takes care of the selectivity lost by the higher IF. > > Either it is, or it isn't. > > ....unusual. > ....somewhat rare. > ....not typical. > ....specific to this unit. > ....hard to find. > > Otherwise, the advice is directly on point. > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 335800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Need 17" Predicta Flyback Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:32:06 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:Q9-dnTeqOKcaqA3ZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com... > > forgot to mention, these sets are so cheap now you can buy a junker just to > get the flyback, then part out the rest of the set and be $$ to the good > later. Seems the Predicta fad peaked about when the Catalin fad did, around > 1991 or so. > > Mark Oppat > > I own a couple different style Predictas, and watch the eBay auctions. True, some real crappy parts sets can be found there cheap, but I'd hardly guess that the Predicta fad has died out judging by the prices that clean, working sets command. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6277813504 Or where these common Holiday sets really going for a lot more 5 years ago? jim menning Article: 335801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Mutch Subject: Re: Stylus Pressure - 78 RPM Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:44:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: Dave McClellan wrote: > Anyone know a reasonable stylus pressure for a 78 RPM radio/phono with > Astatic crystal cartridge and steel needle? I plan on using a postal scale > to set it. I assume the pressure is normally in the ounces range vs grams! > I have a modern stylus pressure gauge but it only goes up to 3 grams. > If memory serves me correctly (it often doesn't these years) the Astatic Xtal carts were supposed to track at 8 grams. > This is sort of an unusual radio phono, in that the radio is a 1.5/90 volt > farm battery set, and the phono motor is the WIND UP type (well DUH). > > Any other suggestions as to pressure measurement procedures would be > appreciated. There is no adjustment per se. There was apparently a spring > (now missing) on the pivot end of the phono arm. I plan on replacing it and > then adjusting the tension. > > Thanks! > Dave > > Article: 335802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Zenith tuning shaft thingy question Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:02:40 -0700 Message-ID: <17674-44904F40-91@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net> References: It is a clutch system to prevent stripping/damage of the brass gears on the reduction system on the tuner cap. Used on 1937 models also with flywheel spinner tuning. Article: 335803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Looking for Majestic 71 or 72 Chassis Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:11:44 -0700 Message-ID: <17674-44905160-94@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net> References: Probably should check the tuning capacitor and drum for pot metal disease. Article: 335804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Stylus Pressure - 78 RPM Message-ID: <2LZjg.42914$U84.662996@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:49:22 -0400 "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:oeSjg.285$287.33@fe06.lga... > > "Syl" wrote in message > news:nhJjg.28296$U84.529796@wagner.videotron.net... > >> b) There is no simple answer to your question. It would be analogous to >> asking: Hey, I have a blue car, what psi should I inflate the tires ? >> The cartridge model number along with the data from Astatic will tell >> you exactly what weight (most likely between 15 and 30g) you should use. > > The cartridge was rebuilt by West-Tech Services. Where would I find the > Astatic data you mentioned? It is an L-26-A. I'll try contacting > West-Tech. Should have thought of that before! Sure, ask him. Let me know if you hear a lot of distotion, especially on loud voice and bass recordings. Syl Article: 335805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: How useful is a signal tracer? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1150316118.031955.215960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:36:31 GMT In article <1150316118.031955.215960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > >Is DessertBoob really dmradios.com? > Naw.. dmradios has more class John k9uwa Article: 335806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Looking for Majestic 71 or 72 Chassis From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <17674-44905160-94@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:38:36 GMT In article <17674-44905160-94@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net>, jimfberg@webtv.net says... > > >Probably should check the tuning capacitor and drum for pot metal >disease. > Well so far no one has stepped out and said.. I Have One.. so even one that had pot metal disease would be an improvement over having nothing... John k9uwa Article: 335807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Need 17" Predicta Flyback Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "jim menning" writes: >I own a couple different style Predictas, and watch the eBay auctions. True, some >real crappy parts sets can be found there cheap, but I'd hardly guess that the >Predicta fad has died out judging by the prices that clean, working sets command. Of the sets in the collection the one visitors always notice is the Predicta Tandem, more so than the rarities, including one set that's the only one known. Predictas are eye-catchers. I first saw one, a white 17" cheapie, when I was in my 20's. I thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen, and figured I'd never be able to afford one. After I got a Tandem many years later I found out, in the immortal words of Harry Poster, that "they made millions of them!" :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 335808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: paging the King of Kontrols Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:43:58 -0700 phenolic (brown, not white and certainly not ceramic,,, just by the way to busted in two and flaked all over the place!!) bob in phx "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:vdedneA9O5INBxLZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hi Bob, > you have a 2 pole, 5 position wafer that is also called "shorting" type > (make before break in your words). > > Now, is this thing ceramic or phenolic? > > Mark > > > "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > news:Mi3jg.25541$XV5.86@fed1read10... >> Paging Dr. Opatt, paging Dr. Opatt >> >> Mark, >> I know that you have tons of pots and other controls, but do you have an >> wafer switches... >> >> I got a free Siltronix 1011, the catch is that the VFO band switch is > busted >> in half. The good part is that the wafer is the last one in line. The bad >> part is that it is a five position switch, make before break, with the > sixth >> connection as a common, plus is double pole ( I think that's how you >> describe the fact that it has two separate switches (i.e. top and bottom) > on >> one wafer, thus there are 12 connections around the outside of the wafer, > 2 >> of which are separate commons and 10 of which are the switch legs!!) >> >> so I was wondering how you were fixed for wafer switches???? I do have a >> digital camera, but it wont focus close enough to get you a pic... but if >> your stocked up on switches, I was thinking about sending you the broken >> halves of the switch and seeing if you could find a match.... >> Here is a web link to the type of switch it its,,, if you look at the 30 >> degree listings its the 2 pole 5 position. >> http://www.oenindia.com/pdf/oen_rotary_series_j_jc.pdf >> so... can you help????? >> >> thanks in advance!!! >> >> bob in phx!!!!! >> >> >> >> > > > Article: 335809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Telephony: Matching Transformer for Subset-Replacement Mini-Network Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:11:27 -0400 Message-ID: <1291cu1es5h9578@corp.supernews.com> References: <_Rwjg.21572$mF2.17454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <128t86of0cvdub2@corp.supernews.com> The actual proprietary component values and hookup inside the networks was never actually disclosed by MaBell IIRC. Why do you need to know- that was their attitude. We told you where to hook up the bell, receiver, etc., and that's enough. PhoneCo has a book or two that does have the actual schematics though. John H . Article: 335810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:28:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3715-4490B7B3-208@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <6233-448F935D-1114@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> You might want to get them from a ``dumb bell`` Article: 335811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:35:10 GMT Would I ever love to go! I saw pictures and read many details about last year's show, but unfortunately I live in Canada on the west coast, it would be about 4 days of hard driving for me to attend. Why not fly? I would need my truck to haul all the stuff I bought back to Canada. I guess I'll have to plan for next year and just do the trip, would definitely be worth it. Mark Oppat wrote: > who all is going??? See info below... > > > Once again the Michigan Antique Radio Club is hosting "Extravaganza", the > "Roadshow of Radios" at the Holiday Inn South in Lansing Michigan, July 7 &8 > (Fri-Sat). This year's featured brand is Philco (this being the 100th > anniversary of the brand). > > As in recent years, the flea market and other outdoor activities are FREE to > attend as is the auction. We request that all attendees register ($15 for > MARC members, $25 for non members). > > The club has a "no display, no selling" policy before 7am Friday morning. > > Registration is required to attend any indoor seminar, the "Radio > Reception" (with huge Philco display and live band on Friday eve) and to > obtain a buyer paddle at the auction or be a flea market seller. > > The event is held at an affordable Holiday Inn South (517-694-8123), and > there are other inexpensive motels nearby (see website for info). > > All the details are at our website, www.michiganantiqueradio.org > > see you all there! > > Mark Oppat > MARC Media Relations Volunteer > > > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 335812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4490C637.7714563E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:31:10 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Perhaps I'm missing something here. Why do you all assume these 78s > are garbage? Ok, perhaps some are, but I'd certainly dig through them > if I ran across them at a flea market. And what have you against Bing > Crosby 78s? I collect, play and enjoy them, even though I have them on > CD. The kind of records that seem to be rare and valuable to many on > this list are junk to me... Not trying to offend anyone - just trying > to understand. > > Gerry Because the guy selling them is always flogging his trash and making outrageous claims about its quality. He keeps changing his name because he has email accounts closed due to all his spamming. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4490C6F7.4D9D99D1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Can I substitute a 50C5 for a 25C5 Tube? References: <1149295644.081050.123880@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:34:22 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Jim Mueller wrote: > > Trading idler wheels on most changers won't affect the speed. > > Well, actually it did. Depends on how worn the idler is, or how much > the rubber may have shrunk. I have four identical VM turntables, three > with 115 volt motors and that oddball 90V one. (The differences are > primarily cosmetic, but all using the same turntable platter.) I tried > each idler wheel, and two seemed to have little or no effect, while two > actually made it run faster! Must be something about that particular > motor. I swapped it out and it ran normally. I dunno, maybe the motor > shaft is slightly different size, but I can't figure why that would be, > with identical platters... > > > The big exception to > > this rule are the turntables that have "2 step idler wheels". In these, > > the motor drives one size wheel and a different size wheel drives the > > turntable. Then the size of the wheels is important. The little 45RPM > > changers made by RCA are a prime example of this design. > > That's just the type used in these. The idler remains stationary, and > the motor itself moves up and down to change speeds. One of my 45 > players also runs fast, but I know it's caused by the idler wheel > shrinking. It won't drive the turntable during the change cycle until > after it runs for a while and warms and expands a bit. If the turntable is running fast the motor shaft has a buildup of crud, or the wrong motor for that diameter of platter. The only time the diameter of the idler matters if its worn so bad that it doesn't apply proper pressure to the motor shaft and the inside of the platter. Its the ratio of the motor shaft's OD, and the platter's ID that sets the reduction ratio. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: I don't have the foggiest idea about old radios Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:18:47 -0400 Message-ID: <1291kcopmddii26@corp.supernews.com> But this is a "great buy"! http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Zenith-Console-wood-tube-radio1940s-GREAT-BUY_W0QQitemZ6636248417The 'bay is even more awash in stupidity than usual-http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Zenith-Console-wood-tube-radio1940s-GREAT-BUY_W0QQitemZ6636248417The folks don't understand the difference between a Reserve and a StartingBid-http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-ATWATER-KENT-FLOOR-CABINET-RADIO-WITH-2-DOORS_W0QQitemZ6636107972QQihZ012And these folks are a nasty boil on the body politic of eBay, can we stopthem somehow? WHY hasn't mark O. talked them down to $100- yet?http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Eveready-Tube-Floor-Model-59-Radio-Record-Play_W0QQitemZ6636067781John H. Article: 335815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I don't have the foggiest idea about old radios Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1291kcopmddii26@corp.supernews.com> In <1291kcopmddii26@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" writes: > http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Zenith-Console-wood-tube-radio1940s-GREAT-BUY_W0QQitemZ6636248417The 'bay is even more awash in stupidity than usual-http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Zenith-Console-wood-tube-radio1940s-GREAT-BUY_W0QQitemZ6636248417The folks don't understand the difference between a Reserve and a StartingBid-http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-ATWATER-KENT-FLOOR-CABINET-RADIO-WITH-2-DOORS_W0QQitemZ6636107972QQihZ012And these folks are a nasty boil on the body politic of eBay, can we stopthem somehow? WHY hasn't mark O. talked them down to $100- yet?http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Eveready-Tube-Floor-Model-59-Radio-Record-Play_W0QQitemZ6636067781John H. Yo, John -- that's one mouthful of a sentence you've got there. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 335816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:02:27 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:31:10 -0400, "Ken Doyle" wrote: >http://asuaf.org/~fsmjg/truck.jpg Hmmmm...looks likea frequent visitor to Charlie Nudo's house! Article: 335817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:01:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 14 Jun 2006 14:22:59 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >2 other people brought trucks, and drove away with 1200 and 1100 disks >respectively, each for $250 per lot Suuuuuuuuuuuure, Noodles...just like the guy that drove all that way to buy that beat to shit Fisher 500C (that never sold...zero feedback) and those popular shitbox consoles you say sound so great. More delusional behavior from an architypical right wing crank job. Article: 335818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Can I substitute a 50C5 for a 25C5 Tube? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:14:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1149295644.081050.123880@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1149383900.708531.62510@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1149420511.693705.311320@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4482CF6E.2575F17F@earthlink.net> <1149465039.652201.308590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <4483A573.3E7CC16D@earthlink.net> <1149646466.371057.217630@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1149763406.387463.193350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150219047.436328.314340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150335107.445089.238890@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <4490C6F7.4D9D99D1@earthlink.net> >> > The big exception to >> > this rule are the turntables that have "2 step idler wheels". In these, >> > the motor drives one size wheel and a different size wheel drives the >> > turntable. Then the size of the wheels is important. The little 45RPM >> > changers made by RCA are a prime example of this design. >> >> That's just the type used in these. The idler remains stationary, and >> the motor itself moves up and down to change speeds. One of my 45 >> players also runs fast, but I know it's caused by the idler wheel >> shrinking. It won't drive the turntable during the change cycle until >> after it runs for a while and warms and expands a bit. > > That may be the type of idler wheel you have but your description doesn't sound like it. The type I was referring to has two rubber wheels on the same shaft. The motor drives one, the other drives the turntable. The diameter of these is critical; that's why a lot of the rebuilding shops won't touch them. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 335819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:42:00 -0700 Message-ID: References: <2561-448F6EE3-248@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <448f804d$0$3669$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> somewhere in my pile of junk (I think in an outdoor file cabinet) I have a pile of old phone parts with bells, etc - phone guts from the 50s to 70s, I suppose - if something of that ilk could be of use, contact me off the list and we'll work something out. On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:16:49 -0500, "Paul Dietenberger" wrote: > > wrote in message >news:2561-448F6EE3-248@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... >> Western Electric desk type phone,dates back to the 1930's.I want to get >> it to where I can use it.I think I might need a bell box with the bells >> for the phone.Anybody got something like that for sale? >> cuhulin >> > >Another alternative, especially if you're financially challenged is to buy a >beaten Western Electric 302 phone, preferably with no dial and a broken >case. $25 ought to be enough for that. Or just find somebody who is selling >just the guts; it happens sometimes. Here's an example (in fact, this would >be perfect) >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6637061325 >The bells, network and capacitor are identical to what is found in the >subsets. You can use those guts and mount them in any appropriate box you >can find. > >http://www.atcaonline.com/diagrams.html has the diagrams you need to hook it >up. > >Real WE subsets can run $50 or more plus shipping. Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 335820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: Best way to clean up a Zenith copper chassis Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:43:02 GMT Ed, Looks great !!! Very nice work. Larry Fowkes "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:vri192dqe6q0b9l3u83p5gvsda624jtj51@4ax.com... > I want to thank those on this forum who gave me advice on refinishing > the hammered copper on the chassis. The paint worked like a charm, and > using a piece of antenna to cut the masking tape over the rivet heads > was a great help. > > Here are some pictures of the finished chassis. > > http://www.wowway.com/~blacksmith1/12S_Walton_Before.jpg > > http://www.wowway.com/~blacksmith1/12S_Walton1.jpg > > http://www.wowway.com/~blacksmith1/12S_Walton2.jpg > > > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 335821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? Message-ID: <%Yakg.46650$4L1.44246@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:51:39 GMT Yep - I will be there. Its only a about an hour and a half drive for me. I am determined not to bring home any more radios until I make a dent in those I already have waiting, but you know how that goes. I always enjoy the various presentations and this years theme of Philco should bring in some truly beautiful sets for the show. I am always on the look out for old books, magazines, catalogs, and service information. Makes for some great reading over Michigans' rather bleak winters. Mark - You gonna be in your usual spot right next to the big tent? It was an honor last year finally getting to meet Cheryl Haedt, hope she is doing well. Larry Fowkes "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:Uoidne-gxZhuFQ3ZnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > who all is going??? See info below... > > > Once again the Michigan Antique Radio Club is hosting "Extravaganza", the > "Roadshow of Radios" at the Holiday Inn South in Lansing Michigan, July 7 &8 > (Fri-Sat). This year's featured brand is Philco (this being the 100th > anniversary of the brand). > Article: 335822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:39:48 GMT Unfortunately it's a bit far for me. Maybe one day I'll be able to travel to some of these; but then, maybe someday we'll have something like this in Florida. I'm working on it. By the way I do have an official date for the next Sarasota meet. It's August 5. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:iuh192pr7utih7v69tbs15b1dtuk8jita4@4ax.com... > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:10:37 -0400, "Mark Oppat" > wrote: > >>who all is going??? > > I'm going. It's good to live in Michigan! > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 335823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Silvertone Identification References: <1150330349.632739.152000@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:01:17 GMT term wrote: > Does anyone know the model number of this radio. > Need it to get a schematic. > It is a silvertone. > > http://static.flickr.com/58/167353415_932dd1baa8_o.jpg > > http://static.flickr.com/54/167353417_99fa37723d_o.jpg > Could you take a readable close-up photo of the tags and stamps on the rear apron of the chassis? Probably just patent notices, but sometimes there is a clue. Bill Jeffrey Article: 335824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Telephony: Matching Transformer for Subset-Replacement Mini-Network From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <_Rwjg.21572$mF2.17454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <128t86of0cvdub2@corp.supernews.com> <1291cu1es5h9578@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <3Zckg.28128$mF2.5657@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:08:15 GMT On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:11:27 GMT, Hagstar wrote: > The actual proprietary component values and hookup inside the networks was > never actually disclosed by MaBell IIRC. Why do you need to know- that was > their attitude. We told you where to hook up the bell, receiver, etc., and > that's enough. > > PhoneCo has a book or two that does have the actual schematics though. There are various schematics (mixed-in with valuable but less informative wiring diagrams) at And they at least give up the goods on some of the Stromberg-Carlson and Automatic Electric sets. I was just hoping that someone here could tell me the values for the mini-networks now being produced. Article: 335825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Philco Model 60 antenna input trap. Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:00:47 -0400 Message-ID: <37ac530e42bbb690bdf7e61040aeaac5@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1150342496.264686.153200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Can any Philco expert please tell me the frequency that the wave trap > >from the antenna terminal, that was added to the Model 60 in later > production, is supposed to be tuned to? **As John says, the trap is for the IF, 460KC. It reduces transmitting the IF via the antenna to other radios in the vicinity. I suggest that you inject 460KC into the antenna terminal and null it out on the grid of the input tube.-Pete O Article: 335826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bilboe iggy" References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:25:26 -0400 Message-ID: <59066$44917bce$d1cc7a4a$577@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> "Sorry, the item you were looking for must have been deleted. Please hit the back arrow on your browser to try another item." * GONE * (pooof!) Good job boys. Another auction scammer put down. (grin) Article: 335827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bilboe iggy" References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150289610.111828.85050@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:29:31 -0400 Message-ID: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," wrote in message news:GYUjg.185001$Fs1.152598@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:53:30 GMT, Peter Wieck wrote: > > > This spam may be reported to: > > > > service@audiogon.com > > Perhaps also to > > abuse@secure.net > > hosts for audiogon.com. So noted. So done. ;) Article: 335828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bilboe iggy" References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:34:25 -0400 Message-ID: <16367$44917de9$d1cc7a4a$667@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Ohhh ohhhh, did you save any of those rare Bing Crosby records, LOL. As kids in the 60's we used to line em up (old 78's) on the fence rail at my uncle's farm in Salem Co NJ and shoot em with BB guns and .22's Great fun. That and I also remember MANY a travelling carney midway that featured the old "Break Three 78's with 3 Balls and Win A Prize" stand. (darn shame now...the farm is today a housing development and the days of the Travelling Carney Sideshow are just about gone - ) Article: 335829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150375910.526291.40730@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:06:08 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1150375910.526291.40730@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Do the same ten people attend that one? Yes, and lately a whole host of others along with them. Out of the three meets each year, the August one is the least attended, but the last two meets have been very strongly attended, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens this time. Southwest Florida is very ripe for such an event. Like I said, I'm working on it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 335830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: The Best TRF Radio? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:19:49 GMT Okay guys, here's one for discussion: What make/model do you consider to be the best built TRF design? While working in the shop this morning, I was listening to my AK-60. The thought came to me -- this radio, introduced in 1929 and built for a couple years, was actually a leftover. It is a TRF design that came out after most others began building superhets. Still, this is a rather upper-end radio, designed for fringe reception and strong audio power with a dynamic speaker. It also has the first RF stage and single-dial tuning, which puts it above most other TRF's on that basis alone. The only drawbacks at all are (1) it has that slight distortion inherent in AK-55's and 60's, and (2) this is a metal table model, where the same radio was also available in a console or Kiel table, which might sound a little better. Still, this is my ONLY TRF radio, so it's hard to judge one against another. There may have been other nice ones, but probably not many -- as the superhets took over just as the TRF designs got to be good. I'm curious to hear your comments. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 335831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Heriberto" Subject: ME1400 mullard ¿ That Filament voltage ? Message-ID: <44919766_1@x-privat.org> Date: 15 Jun 2006 19:22:46 +0200 I am confused! In some data sheets appears 6.3 V . 0,3 A To whereas in others they say 4.5 V 0.16 A. - As it is the truth? Help me! TIA Heriberto LU6DBU Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php Article: 335832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sander deWaal Subject: Re: ME1400 mullard ¿ That Filament voltage ? Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:44:54 +0200 Message-ID: <9273925ip5mfehi8h8hsp3dcu4v52230jp@4ax.com> References: <44919766_1@x-privat.org> "Heriberto" said: >I am confused! In some data sheets appears 6.3 V . 0,3 A To whereas in >others they say 4.5 V 0.16 A. - As it is the truth? >Help me! >TIA >Heriberto >LU6DBU Hmmm....both Frank's and Duncan's tube pages say it is an electrometer tube with 4.5 V and 160 mA. I found no other references in my own databooks, besides the Cv432 equivalent number. 73, Sander. -- - Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. - Article: 335833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:47:57 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4491AB5D-204@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: There used to be an antique shop on Highway 49 South.I remember seeing an old wooden phone box there (with the bells) for sale,I think the price was about $45.00.That was back in the 1980's,before I bought my 1930's Western Electric desk phone from a hippy guy at the Flowers Fleamarket in the 1990's.I also own a Western Electric brass candlelstick phone,it is the kind of phone that doesn't have a dialer on it.I bought the brass candlestick phone from Thomas Burnside,he lives one mile West of me.Perhaps some of y'all have seen his ads in Antique Radio Classified Magazine. www.antiqueradio.com And I own a few other old phones too.So does my old buddy. Nothing wrong looking for hen's teeth,if you can find them. cuhulin Article: 335834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Hurricane!!!! Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:56:08 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4491AD48-205@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150326096.404336.131500@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Gets too cold up North for me.South is always best. cuhulin Article: 335835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: How useful is a signal tracer? Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:06:56 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4491AFD0-207@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: About five months ago,I saw a nice looking Conn electronic organ for sale at the Goodwill store.And there was a big speaker in a seperate big box.(I haden't noticed the organ,but my eyes sure did light on that big speaker) I pushed the speaker out of that room and I pushed it over to the checkout counter.The sales lady said that speaker goes with the organ and the organ and speaker is $150.00.I guess I didn't need that speaker that much,I pushed it back in that room. cuhulin Article: 335836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ian Iveson" References: <44919766_1@x-privat.org> Subject: Re: ME1400 mullard ¿ That Filament voltage ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:32:35 GMT >I am confused! In some data sheets appears 6.3 V . 0,3 A To whereas in > others they say 4.5 V 0.16 A. - As it is the truth? > Help me! If you've got one, try the heater at 4.5V and measure the current. If it is near 160mA, then the alternative must be false, so 4.5V must be correct. If you get over 200mA, then the alternative must be true, assuming one or the other is correct. What's it for? cheers, Ian Article: 335837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: term "solid state" Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:22:59 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4491B393-209@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I have an old portable FOUR-STAR made in Japan 12 transistor AM FM radio here.I bought it at the Goodwill store years ago for a dollar or two.I haven't tried it out yet to see if it works.Over fifty years ago,I used to think the more transistors a radio has,the better the radio.That isn't always true though. cuhulin Article: 335838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? Message-ID: <6ge392lr6bs9j16f8vnbjoanl7j7f6ms8e@4ax.com> References: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:51:35 GMT On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:10:14 -0400, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >Gary, at least get up to Charlotte in late March. Even though its about >half the stuff that is at Lansing, its still a very good event. At the last Charlotte meet, there were at least 3 Sarasota people there, so it can't be too far. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 335839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4491BC69.A7EF364D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <16367$44917de9$d1cc7a4a$667@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:01:11 GMT Bilboe iggy wrote: > > (darn shame now...the farm is today a housing development > and the days of the Travelling Carney Sideshow are just about > gone - ) And all of the out of work carnival trolls are hanging out on usenet. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Stevens: Let Satellite Screw Up HDTV,Too Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:51:00 -0500 Message-ID: <12182-4491BA24-54@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150178627.899260.39380@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I have a TERK TV 50 antenna I bought for five dollars at the Goodwill store a couple of years ago.Assuming there isn't anything wrong with the antenna,I wonder how well it would work with my RCA 27 inch screen tv set I bought new in 1999.The tv set still works as good as new. cuhulin Article: 335841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6ge392lr6bs9j16f8vnbjoanl7j7f6ms8e@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? Message-ID: <9djkg.17325$Bj6.1314@trnddc08> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:15:01 GMT You and who else? I'm sure Joanie didn't go . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Brian McAllister" wrote in message news:6ge392lr6bs9j16f8vnbjoanl7j7f6ms8e@4ax.com... > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:10:14 -0400, "Mark Oppat" > wrote: > >>Gary, at least get up to Charlotte in late March. Even though its about >>half the stuff that is at Lansing, its still a very good event. > > At the last Charlotte meet, there were at least 3 Sarasota people > there, so it can't be too far. > > > Brian McAllister > > Sarasota, Florida > > email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 335842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: need info on old zenith 500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:44:33 -0400 The Zenith owl eye royal 500 radio I won on ebay just showed up. It's in better shape than advertised and plays great. Only problem is I'm going to have to shoot some contact cleaner into the volume control, but the control isn't too noisy. The set is a latter one with the vernier tuning on the variable capacitor and a PC board. I count only 7 transistors but the back is embossed as "8 transistors". Either someone replaced the back with one from another model 500, or Zenith lied (maybe they were in the process of changing the model and mixed parts). The transistors look like TO-1 style with the plug in bases (plastic bottoms and metal cans). One of the transistors has been replaced with a TO-5 unit (af driver I think). I don't know the chassis number since that was originally on the battery door which was lost and replaced by a homemade plastic one (excellent machine job on this as it fits like a glove). I haven't tried pulling the chassis yet to look at the speaker. I remember the Zenith 500 my father had was an owl eye with vernier and an inverted cone speaker (cone stuck OUT not in as a normal speaker!) Any guess as to the chassis number? (what other clues should I look for?) Article: 335843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Philco Model 60 antenna input trap. Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:59:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1150342496.264686.153200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <37ac530e42bbb690bdf7e61040aeaac5@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Pete, are you sure the purpose of the "IF Trap" is to reduce "transmitting the IF via the antenna to other radios in the vicinity"? I always assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that it was to prevent interference from LF aircraft beacons operating near IF frequency of the radio, for those living in close proximity to the beacon? **John- You are probably correct; since I never saw any info on these traps, my assumption was that they were for attenuation of the IF on the antenna that might interfere with other radios of the same IF; but as you say they are also going into the band of aircraft navigation beacons. It will be worth some time to measure the IF transmitted power into various impedances. If I only had a spectrum analyzer.. Tnx for your comment. -Pete Article: 335844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bilboe iggy" References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <16367$44917de9$d1cc7a4a$667@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <4491BC69.A7EF364D@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:38:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3dbb0$4491f153$d1cc5b6f$7174@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4491BC69.A7EF364D@earthlink.net... > Bilboe iggy wrote: > > > > (darn shame now...the farm is today a housing development > > and the days of the Travelling Carney Sideshow are just about > > gone - ) > > > And all of the out of work carnival trolls are hanging out on usenet. > ;-) More like they're all on E-Bay! (grin) Article: 335845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Zenith Battery Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:22:01 GMT I just received a battery pack from Bill Morris, for my H-500 Super Transoceanic. I am impressed! This really is a neat idea, building a battery that can be opened up to allow modern alkaline batteries to fit inside. This particular battery pack uses 6 D cells and 10 9v batteries. Now -- when you add up the price, I think the battery may be worth more than the radio. The battery pack was around $50, and the batteries themselves came to about $40, meaning almost $100 to power the radio. I'm not complaining; the reproduction pack is well made and worth the price. However I'm very curious as to how this compares in price to the original battery pack in 1951. Compensated for inflation I bet the new one is cheaper, especially considering the pack itself is only purchased once; only the batteries need to be refilled. It's just a reminder of how "cheap" radios have become today, compared with back then. In any case I love it. Now I can take my TO with me wherever I go -- to car shows, picnics, etc. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 335846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: term "solid state" Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:42:21 +0900 Message-ID: References: <12181-4491B393-209@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> "robert casey" wrote in message news:lHmkg.6479$lp.1277@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > >> I have an old portable FOUR-STAR made in Japan 12 transistor AM FM radio >> here.I bought it at the Goodwill store years ago for a dollar or two.I >> haven't tried it out yet to see if it works.Over fifty years ago,I used >> to think the more transistors a radio has,the better the radio.That >> isn't always true though. >> cuhulin > Six to 8 transistors would be all you really need for a good radio. Beyond > that they're playing games.... For an AM radio, yes. For AM/FM, a few more are needed. An additional IF stage, separate FM LO and mixer. 8 transistors does make a nice AM radio, ala the old Royal 500's with the broadband RF amp, or the Channel Masters with the tuned RF front end. Article: 335847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I don't have the foggiest idea about old radios Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: <16411-44920011-276@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150412527.158820.85940@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Sometimes you can pick up some European AM stations at night time if you are on the American East coast. cuhulin Article: 335848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Best way to clean up a Zenith copper chassis Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:06:24 -0600 Message-ID: <2328-44920410-98@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <2aidnYMGQuwYPQzZnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com> Mark .. you take the tuning cap off the chassis along with the i.f. cans and filters Maybe the transformer ? i usually unbolt & prop that up . Its was spray paint . Super nice job ! Article: 335849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:32:33 -0400 Ken Scharf wrote: > The Zenith owl eye royal 500 radio I won on ebay just showed up. > It's in better shape than advertised and plays great. Only problem > is I'm going to have to shoot some contact cleaner into the volume > control, but the control isn't too noisy. > > The set is a latter one with the vernier tuning on the variable capacitor > and a PC board. I count only 7 transistors but the back is embossed as > "8 transistors". Either someone replaced the back with one from another > model 500, or Zenith lied (maybe they were in the process of changing the > model and mixed parts). The transistors look like TO-1 style with > the plug in bases (plastic bottoms and metal cans). One of the transistors > has been replaced with a TO-5 unit (af driver I think). > I don't know the chassis number since that was originally on the battery > door which was lost and replaced by a homemade plastic one (excellent > machine job on this as it fits like a glove). I haven't tried pulling > the chassis yet to look at the speaker. I remember the Zenith 500 my > father had was an owl eye with vernier and an inverted cone speaker > (cone stuck OUT not in as a normal speaker!) > > Any guess as to the chassis number? (what other clues should I look for?) Additional info. Pulled the chassis and counted the transistor sockets. There are 8. What I thought was a large cap is really the eight transistor. Also the speaker is not the inverted cone type. It also had a tear in in which I covered with some super gel glue. Explained the distortion. So I wonder which model/chassis of the owl eye zenith 500's with 8 transistors it could be. Article: 335850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Zenith Battery Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:44:38 -0700 Message-ID: <23636-44920D06-374@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> References: I would guess the pack in 1952 was about $6 to $7. It would power the radio for 250 hours. I bought a pack in bout 1973 and it was $12.50. Article: 335851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "roknroll" References: <1145500976.051133.257360@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mick's Thick Mary Amplifier gets Fender Reverb Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:57:02 -0400 trtrtrtrr "Mick" wrote in message news:1145500976.051133.257360@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi Folks, > > Added reverb to the amp last night. Check the build page here: > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/octane/reverb_april_18.htm > > I went on a quest for making the amp absolutely hum free. Added some > new low noise cuts here (compare noisy Cut 1 with quiet Cuts 2-5): > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/octane/cuts/index.htm > > Best to all, > Mick > Article: 335852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Zenith Battery Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:52:15 -0700 Message-ID: <23637-44920ECF-94@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> References: I made a slight missprint on my last post: should have been the battery lasted 150 hours, not 250 I had typed in. Article: 335853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:05:26 -0400 Ken Scharf wrote: > The Zenith owl eye royal 500 radio I won on ebay just showed up. > It's in better shape than advertised and plays great. Only problem > is I'm going to have to shoot some contact cleaner into the volume > control, but the control isn't too noisy. > > The set is a latter one with the vernier tuning on the variable capacitor > and a PC board. I count only 7 transistors but the back is embossed as > "8 transistors". Either someone replaced the back with one from another > model 500, or Zenith lied (maybe they were in the process of changing the > model and mixed parts). The transistors look like TO-1 style with > the plug in bases (plastic bottoms and metal cans). One of the transistors > has been replaced with a TO-5 unit (af driver I think). > I don't know the chassis number since that was originally on the battery > door which was lost and replaced by a homemade plastic one (excellent > machine job on this as it fits like a glove). I haven't tried pulling > the chassis yet to look at the speaker. I remember the Zenith 500 my > father had was an owl eye with vernier and an inverted cone speaker > (cone stuck OUT not in as a normal speaker!) > > Any guess as to the chassis number? (what other clues should I look for?) Searched Beitmans. It's probably an 8AT40 or 8AT40Z2. Article: 335854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:16:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: Ken: You may want to visit my website www.tranistor-repairs.com for more information and a link to a definitive Royal 500 website. If it has 7 transistors and a PC board, it is a second generation Royal 500. The Royal 500D model has 8 transistors. The additional transistor is used as a RF amplifier. This really adds a lot of sensitivity. I hope you enjoy your radio. Jim "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:ulokg.58496$qd2.43819@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > Ken Scharf wrote: >> The Zenith owl eye royal 500 radio I won on ebay just showed up. >> It's in better shape than advertised and plays great. Only problem >> is I'm going to have to shoot some contact cleaner into the volume >> control, but the control isn't too noisy. >> >> The set is a latter one with the vernier tuning on the variable capacitor >> and a PC board. I count only 7 transistors but the back is embossed as >> "8 transistors". Either someone replaced the back with one from another >> model 500, or Zenith lied (maybe they were in the process of changing the >> model and mixed parts). The transistors look like TO-1 style with >> the plug in bases (plastic bottoms and metal cans). One of the >> transistors >> has been replaced with a TO-5 unit (af driver I think). >> I don't know the chassis number since that was originally on the battery >> door which was lost and replaced by a homemade plastic one (excellent >> machine job on this as it fits like a glove). I haven't tried pulling >> the chassis yet to look at the speaker. I remember the Zenith 500 my >> father had was an owl eye with vernier and an inverted cone speaker >> (cone stuck OUT not in as a normal speaker!) >> >> Any guess as to the chassis number? (what other clues should I look >> for?) > > Searched Beitmans. It's probably an 8AT40 or 8AT40Z2. Article: 335855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Heriberto" References: <44919766_1@x-privat.org> <9273925ip5mfehi8h8hsp3dcu4v52230jp@4ax.com> Subject: Re: ME1400 mullard ¿ That Filament voltage ? Message-ID: <44921589_1@x-privat.org> Date: 16 Jun 2006 04:20:57 +0200 Thanks Sander: Yes. I reading it, but in http://www.tubecollector.org/me1400.htm and other sites say 6 ,3 V. 0,3 A and Maximum Voltage plate is 300 V, where as 90 V. in other case.- It will be the same valve? Regards Heriberto " Sander deWaal" escribió en el mensaje news:9273925ip5mfehi8h8hsp3dcu4v52230jp@4ax.com... > "Heriberto" said: > > >I am confused! In some data sheets appears 6.3 V . 0,3 A To whereas in > >others they say 4.5 V 0.16 A. - As it is the truth? > >Help me! > >TIA > >Heriberto > >LU6DBU > > > Hmmm....both Frank's and Duncan's tube pages say it is an electrometer > tube with 4.5 V and 160 mA. > > I found no other references in my own databooks, besides the Cv432 > equivalent number. > > 73, Sander. > > -- > > - Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. - Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php Article: 335856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? Message-ID: References: <6ge392lr6bs9j16f8vnbjoanl7j7f6ms8e@4ax.com> <9djkg.17325$Bj6.1314@trnddc08> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:20:02 GMT On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:15:01 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >You and who else? > >I'm sure Joanie didn't go . . . Chip Taylor for one, and the other guy's name I don't know, but he sells at the Sarasota Meet. He has dark blond hair with a comb-over. He lives at Bahia Vista and Osprey, near Joanie. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 335857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: hatespam@hatespam.com (Evil Homer) Subject: Re: The Best TRF Radio? Message-ID: <44922e8e.27535992@news.houston.sbcglobal.net> References: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 04:08:33 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote: >Did Miller also make a hi-fi (OK, it's all relative :-) crystal tuner? I >dimly remember a conversation with someone who claimed it was the greatest >thing since sliced bread, if you're interested in that sort of thing. > >Phil Nelson Indeed they did! I have a couple, and, somewhere, I have an article about them. Article: 335858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" Subject: FS - Large Electrolytics Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:02:54 -0400 Message-ID: <44923b6c$0$12741$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> FS Large Electrolytic Caps - these "appear" to be new - unused - surplus parts Quantity - Value 3 110,000 mfd 15vdc - one needs screws 2 38,900 mfd 40vdc 1 110,000 mfd 25 vdc 1 68,000 mfd 25 vdc 1 120,000 mfd 15 vdc - needs screws 1 71,000 mfd 25vdc 1 6 mfd 660vac (oil filled - with leads) Offers accepted on all.......... or each....... One day only - June 16th til midnight Eastern time - then off to E-bay. Reply to the following address removing the antispam stuff. NOSPAMINFO@CLFURENT.COM Sold AS-IS - Shipping is extra, payment via Postal MO....... First come first serve. Article: 335859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:05:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: Ken Scharf wrote: > Ken Scharf wrote: > >>The Zenith owl eye royal 500 radio I won on ebay just showed up. >>It's in better shape than advertised and plays great. Only problem >>is I'm going to have to shoot some contact cleaner into the volume >>control, but the control isn't too noisy. >> >>The set is a latter one with the vernier tuning on the variable capacitor >>and a PC board. I count only 7 transistors but the back is embossed as >>"8 transistors". Either someone replaced the back with one from another >>model 500, or Zenith lied (maybe they were in the process of changing the >>model and mixed parts). The transistors look like TO-1 style with >>the plug in bases (plastic bottoms and metal cans). One of the transistors >>has been replaced with a TO-5 unit (af driver I think). >>I don't know the chassis number since that was originally on the battery >>door which was lost and replaced by a homemade plastic one (excellent >>machine job on this as it fits like a glove). I haven't tried pulling >>the chassis yet to look at the speaker. I remember the Zenith 500 my >>father had was an owl eye with vernier and an inverted cone speaker >>(cone stuck OUT not in as a normal speaker!) >> >>Any guess as to the chassis number? (what other clues should I look for?) > > > Searched Beitmans. It's probably an 8AT40 or 8AT40Z2. Does it have "long distance" embossed on the front somewhere? Then it is the first-generation 8-transistor Zenith 500. The big transistor you mistook for a cap is probably the 121-78 RF amp transistor. The grille on this model is concave. The 500D has its model number clearly marked on the front between the owl eyes as well as the inverted speaker cone, and the speaker grille is convex. It was the last model of "owl-eye" 500. These are HOT radios, one of the hottest you can hold in your hand, and great for nighttime DX in remote areas. Truly one of the all time greats. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 335860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:57:03 -0500 Message-ID: <12182-4492482F-69@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I have a Zenith Royal 500D radio.HOT radio? Mine doesn't put out much volume like it should.I also have a large Zenith Royal 500 radio,it doesn't put out much volume either.That's the way it is with some of those thrift store radios.I was cleaning out some junk yesterday and I discovered some old radios of mine I had long since forgottened I owned. cuhulin Article: 335861 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:46:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <16367$44917de9$d1cc7a4a$667@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <4491BC69.A7EF364D@earthlink.net> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:01:11 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > And all of the out of work carnival trolls are hanging out on usenet. >;-) ...or causing Amber alerts. Charlie Nudo appears to be an ex-carnie! Article: 335862 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:48:08 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <59066$44917bce$d1cc7a4a$577@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:25:26 -0400, "Bilboe iggy" wrote: >"Sorry, the item you were looking for must have been deleted. >Please hit the back arrow on your browser to try another item." > >* GONE * (pooof!) > >Good job boys. Another auction scammer put down. (grin) He'll be back...just like a bad penny. Charlie Nudo is so deluded, even when eBay or Audiogon or Google whack him, he still thinks he's right and everyone's "against him"...the mark of a parnoid delusional. Some research on this asshole makes for mildly entertaining reading. > Article: 335863 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" Subject: Sorry if repeat - FS Large Electrolytics Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:27:22 -0400 Message-ID: <44924f38$0$12720$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Sorry if this is a repeat, I didn't see my listing come up after sent.......... I know most of you "Antique" collectors may not use any or all of these, but some one may need any one of them....... FS Large Electrolytic Caps - these "appear" to be new - unused - surplus parts Quantity - Value 3 110,000 mfd 15vdc - one needs screws 2 38,900 mfd 40vdc 1 110,000 mfd 25 vdc 1 68,000 mfd 25 vdc 1 120,000 mfd 15 vdc - needs screws 1 71,000 mfd 25vdc 1 6 mfd 660vac (oil filled - with leads) Offers accepted on all.......... or each....... One day only - June 16th til midnight Eastern time - then off to E-bay. Reply to the following address removing the antispam stuff. NOSPAMINFO@CLFURENT.COM Sold AS-IS - Shipping is extra, payment via Postal MO....... First come first serve. Article: 335864 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:52:57 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:ulokg.58496$qd2.43819@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > Ken Scharf wrote: >> The Zenith owl eye royal 500 radio I won on ebay just showed up. >> It's in better shape than advertised and plays great. Only problem >> is I'm going to have to shoot some contact cleaner into the volume >> control, but the control isn't too noisy. >> >> The set is a latter one with the vernier tuning on the variable capacitor >> and a PC board. I count only 7 transistors but the back is embossed as >> "8 transistors". Either someone replaced the back with one from another >> model 500, or Zenith lied (maybe they were in the process of changing the >> model and mixed parts). The transistors look like TO-1 style with >> the plug in bases (plastic bottoms and metal cans). One of the >> transistors >> has been replaced with a TO-5 unit (af driver I think). >> I don't know the chassis number since that was originally on the battery >> door which was lost and replaced by a homemade plastic one (excellent >> machine job on this as it fits like a glove). I haven't tried pulling >> the chassis yet to look at the speaker. I remember the Zenith 500 my >> father had was an owl eye with vernier and an inverted cone speaker >> (cone stuck OUT not in as a normal speaker!) >> >> Any guess as to the chassis number? (what other clues should I look >> for?) > > Searched Beitmans. It's probably an 8AT40 or 8AT40Z2. Here are photos of the Royal 500 7 transistor http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Royal_500_7.jpg and the Royal 500 8 transistor http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Royal_500_7.jpg These are both owl-eye sets with the vernier dial tuner. The 8 transistor model uses a broadband RF amp with a notch filter at 455KHz. Article: 335865 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:56:49 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:e6tre8$85c$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Ken Scharf" wrote in message > news:ulokg.58496$qd2.43819@bignews6.bellsouth.net... >> Ken Scharf wrote: >>> The Zenith owl eye royal 500 radio I won on ebay just showed up. >>> It's in better shape than advertised and plays great. Only problem >>> is I'm going to have to shoot some contact cleaner into the volume >>> control, but the control isn't too noisy. >>> >>> The set is a latter one with the vernier tuning on the variable >>> capacitor >>> and a PC board. I count only 7 transistors but the back is embossed as >>> "8 transistors". Either someone replaced the back with one from another >>> model 500, or Zenith lied (maybe they were in the process of changing >>> the >>> model and mixed parts). The transistors look like TO-1 style with >>> the plug in bases (plastic bottoms and metal cans). One of the >>> transistors >>> has been replaced with a TO-5 unit (af driver I think). >>> I don't know the chassis number since that was originally on the battery >>> door which was lost and replaced by a homemade plastic one (excellent >>> machine job on this as it fits like a glove). I haven't tried pulling >>> the chassis yet to look at the speaker. I remember the Zenith 500 my >>> father had was an owl eye with vernier and an inverted cone speaker >>> (cone stuck OUT not in as a normal speaker!) >>> >>> Any guess as to the chassis number? (what other clues should I look >>> for?) >> >> Searched Beitmans. It's probably an 8AT40 or 8AT40Z2. > > Here are photos of the Royal 500 7 transistor > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Royal_500_7.jpg > > and the Royal 500 8 transistor > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Royal_500_7.jpg > > These are both owl-eye sets with the vernier dial tuner. The 8 transistor > model uses a broadband RF amp with a notch filter at 455KHz. My bad... I duplicated the links.. try THIS ONE instead for the 8 transistor http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Royal_500_8.jpg Article: 335866 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Sorry if repeat - FS Large Electrolytics From: ""clfe"" References: <44924f38$0$12720$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:14:33 GMT On 15-Jun-2006, "clfe" wrote: > Sorry if this is a repeat, I didn't see my listing come up after > sent.......... Yeah, it was a repeat. Article: 335867 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150450556.803640.64630@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:15:38 GMT On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:35:56 GMT, smogchokedLosAngeles@hotmail.com wrote: > I have gone thru the advert and everything seems perfect and exactly > what i needed. If you're going to do sock-puppet shilling, then you need to be far less obvious about it. Article: 335868 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: Zenith Battery Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:23:49 -0400 Message-ID: <449294c1$0$6150$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> According to the 1952 Eveready price schedule, an equivalent 752 AB pack was going for $6.25. Insert that number into the inflation cacluator, and the comparable 2005 price is $44.46. Bill "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:JQmkg.17333$Bj6.4140@trnddc08... >I just received a battery pack from Bill Morris, for my H-500 Super >Transoceanic. > > I am impressed! This really is a neat idea, building a battery that can > be opened up to allow modern alkaline batteries to fit inside. This > particular battery pack uses 6 D cells and 10 9v batteries. > > Now -- when you add up the price, I think the battery may be worth more > than the radio. The battery pack was around $50, and the batteries > themselves came to about $40, meaning almost $100 to power the radio. > I'm not complaining; the reproduction pack is well made and worth the > price. However I'm very curious as to how this compares in price to the > original battery pack in 1951. Compensated for inflation I bet the new > one is cheaper, especially considering the pack itself is only purchased > once; only the batteries need to be refilled. It's just a reminder of how > "cheap" radios have become today, compared with back then. > > In any case I love it. Now I can take my TO with me wherever I go -- to > car shows, picnics, etc. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 335869 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Early Zenith (and others) transistor radios. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:32:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1150422658.474385.277010@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> > Jim, > I have an old Motorola AM/FM portable Model TP-12 sold back in 1960. I > know because I have the original sales receipt plus all attending > paperwork, warranty, schematic and owners manual. It's a 10 transistor > AC/DC that sold for $70. Its the only radio I have that sports a > leather bound face cover. I'm sure it has helped preseve it's new look. > Regards, > John Hello, and I remember Japanese transistor portable AM/FM sets hitting the market in a big away around 1964-65. I still have my Realtone 10-transistor model that I purchased when I was in high school in 1965. Even the original thick leather stitched carrying case has held up over the years. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 335870 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? Message-ID: References: <6ge392lr6bs9j16f8vnbjoanl7j7f6ms8e@4ax.com> <9djkg.17325$Bj6.1314@trnddc08> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:21:38 GMT On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:17:35 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >Do you generally go together or separately? Separately. I usually take my wife with me. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 335871 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gizmofiddler" References: <1150342496.264686.153200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco Model 60 antenna input trap. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4492f78f_2@newspeer2.tds.net> "nesesu" wrote in message news:1150342496.264686.153200@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Can any Philco expert please tell me the frequency that the wave trap > from the antenna terminal, that was added to the Model 60 in later > production, is supposed to be tuned to? > I am rewinding one for a fellow member of this NG, and I want to be > sure the combination of new inductor and the compression trimmer tune > to the correct frequency at nominal setting. Rider 4-30 does not have > this component, but it is listed as a mod in 5-40 but without any > tuning information. Also no reference to it in 7-147. Perhaps there is > something in a genuine Philco service manual? > Thanks, > Neil S. > This may be relevant: from the schematic on my Model 650a Coronado: "Code Interference. This may be noticeable in regions close to the Great Lakes and is due to ship to shore radio interference being received directly to the IF amplifier and usually comes in regardless of tuning. All late production of this model going into the Great Lakes territory were equipped with a wave trap which greatly reduces such interference. Such sets had the letter 'T' marked on the back of the chassis and the carton. This wave trap No. 17736 may be added to any other production sets as shown in the circuit diagram. After installation, it must be tuned to minimum response to a 456 signal applied to the antenna lead or to minimum reception of the code interference." The wavetrap is a coil and tunable cap from the antenna lead to earth ground. Hope this helps, ~Tom Article: 335872 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Early Zenith (and others) transistor radios. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:39:27 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150422658.474385.277010@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 04:12:31 -0700, William Sommerwerck wrote: >> It was a flop because it was FM only and there wasn't >> anything to listen to on FM in 1958. > > You mean, not a lot of loud, blaring, rock 'n roll? > > I suspect the Hastings FM Jr flopped because a two-tube FM radio -- > presumably superregenerative -- didn't perform very well. Not to mention > that it wasn't a Famous Name Brand. That undoubtedly didn't help. It's hard to remember back that far but in 1958 we may have had one FM station which played elevator music. They were around to participate in early stereo broadcasts however, one channel on AM and the other on FM. I rounded up the required radios and listened to it. I wasn't impressed. I think we got a second FM station in the mid '60s. It played country music. Then an underground music station started in the late '60s. My wife's car is a '67 Plymouth. FM wasn't even an option for it, although it was available on the high end models. I remember in the early '70s, I heard that the underground station was planning a program that sounded like it might be good but I had a date at that time so I couldn't stay home to listen to it. I had the chassis from an AM/FM table radio. I changed tubes and rewired the heaters so that they would run on 12V and used a dynamotor (with a cardboard box over it to keep the noise down) to supply B+. I put this on the floor of my car and listened to the show on my date. Even though the warning signs were there, I don't think the young lady realized the full ramifications until after she married me. Fortunately, she adapted well. FM didn't really take off until about 1980. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 335873 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Antonio Vernucci" References: <7eidneQ0feztBRLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@velocitywest.com> Subject: Re: BC-348-Q Repairs - Looking for advice Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:28:41 +0200 Message-ID: <4493228c$0$3109$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> I did your same job you some time ago, when I restored a non working = BC-348. It is very difficult to give you advices by e-mail. The obvious way to = proceed is to start from the audio power stage and go up in the chain, = checking the wiring and voltages. I found that the wiring had been = modified in several places.=20 Also in my case I had the impression that the crystal filter was not = working. Initally I had simply tuned the IF transformers for maximum = output. But I then realized that the IF transformers were tuned on a = frequency quite far from the crystal resonant frequency (910 KHz). After = retuning the IF chain on precisely 910 KHz with the aid of a signal = generator the crystal filter started to work normally. 73 Tony I0JX From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jun 17 15:15:59 EDT 2006 Article: 335874 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Early Zenith (and others) transistor radios. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:58:54 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 5 Message-ID: References: <1150422658.474385.277010@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-533.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:335874 Hi, The Hastings Jr. flopped partly because it used an earphone and therefore looked like a hearing aid. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jun 17 15:15:59 EDT 2006 Article: 335875 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: The Best TRF Radio? Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:54:38 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 8 Message-ID: <6o9692dhvnh8j4vrtjadj3thkpn24qu44u@4ax.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-513.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:335875 Hi, The best TRF? For a commercial set, probably the Western Electric 10A. Military? The Navy RBA was pretty impressive, but only tuned up to 600 kHz as it was a VLF set. Home model? I've never seen one myself, but the Philips Superinductance models have a good reputation in England. Alan Article: 335876 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Early Zenith (and others) transistor radios. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:26:20 -0500 Message-ID: <8565-4493300C-21@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Michael Brian Schiffer sure didn't say much,did he? Heck,I could have said more than that. cuhulin Article: 335877 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Early Zenith (and others) transistor radios. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:31:02 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-44933126-407@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Hmmmm,where did I put my 1941 Allied Radio magazine with those descriptions (with pictures) of different kinds of radios? cuhulin Article: 335878 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Early Zenith (and others) transistor radios. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:33:40 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-449331C4-408@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I used to own a 1967 Plymouth Fury four door hard top car.It was sort of an off white color with red upholstery.The AM radio worked ok. cuhulin Article: 335879 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <44924f38$0$12720$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1150455555.138478.321750@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sorry if repeat - FS Large Electrolytics Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:23:09 -0400 Message-ID: <44934b5b$0$12714$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> I understand what you're saying. With the lower range caps I can check - but not the extremely higher ones. Some if not all were "Mallory". BUT - I guess I"m offering them cheap enough that just one would be worth it if a few were bought - given their values and potential prices. That's all I can say for now. If anyone has any idea how to test the "higher" value caps - other than an OHMS test, I'd be happy to do it if I'm so equipped. As to "storage conditions" they were in a plastic storage container - sealed. Age? NO........ clfe "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1150455555.138478.321750@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> Sold AS-IS - Shipping is extra, payment via Postal MO....... First come >> first serve. > > Do you have any idea of: > > Actual age? > Manufacturer(s)? > Storage Conditions? > > Do you have the means to test them? > > "Vintage" electrolytics (with some exceptions) are really no better > than capacitors in actual service of the same age, type and value. > Excepting that capacitors that have been in relatively constant use for > 40 years will be in better condition than those sitting on a shelf for > 40 years. > > Always a dilemma with NOS vintage parts, especially capacitors. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 335880 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: replacement speaker grill or template available? From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1150252981.440450.117770@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:09:41 GMT try Tom Rutkowski. He makes repro grills, and has some of the more common ones in stock. e-mail: grillmr at greatlakes dot net Article: 335881 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:18:43 -0400 Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Ken Scharf wrote: > >> Ken Scharf wrote: >> >>> The Zenith owl eye royal 500 radio I won on ebay just showed up. >>> It's in better shape than advertised and plays great. Only problem >>> is I'm going to have to shoot some contact cleaner into the volume >>> control, but the control isn't too noisy. >>> >>> The set is a latter one with the vernier tuning on the variable >>> capacitor >>> and a PC board. I count only 7 transistors but the back is embossed as >>> "8 transistors". Either someone replaced the back with one from another >>> model 500, or Zenith lied (maybe they were in the process of changing >>> the >>> model and mixed parts). The transistors look like TO-1 style with >>> the plug in bases (plastic bottoms and metal cans). One of the >>> transistors >>> has been replaced with a TO-5 unit (af driver I think). >>> I don't know the chassis number since that was originally on the battery >>> door which was lost and replaced by a homemade plastic one (excellent >>> machine job on this as it fits like a glove). I haven't tried pulling >>> the chassis yet to look at the speaker. I remember the Zenith 500 my >>> father had was an owl eye with vernier and an inverted cone speaker >>> (cone stuck OUT not in as a normal speaker!) >>> >>> Any guess as to the chassis number? (what other clues should I look >>> for?) >> >> >> >> Searched Beitmans. It's probably an 8AT40 or 8AT40Z2. > > > Does it have "long distance" embossed on the front somewhere? Then it is > the first-generation 8-transistor Zenith 500. The big transistor you > mistook for a cap is probably the 121-78 RF amp transistor. The grille > on this model is concave. > > The 500D has its model number clearly marked on the front between the > owl eyes as well as the inverted speaker cone, and the speaker grille is > convex. It was the last model of "owl-eye" 500. > > These are HOT radios, one of the hottest you can hold in your hand, and > great for nighttime DX in remote areas. Truly one of the all time greats. > > -Scott > > > It seems the first of the 500D's didn't have the 500D logo on the front. The latter ones did, and they also had the inverted speaker cone. My father had one of those, I remember it had the "500D" logo on the front. Yes my radio does have the words 'long distance' on front and a concave grill. The radio does seem sensitive. It plays rather well for a 48 year old set. Probably could stand some recaping, I think most of the electrolytic are original. Someone along the way did replace the 2N407 driver transistor with a TO-5 cased unit. If I can find a 2N407 or a similar TO-1 case equal I'd like to switch it just to get the original style transistor in there. The set does display some distortion, especially at higher volume levels. Some of this must be in the speaker, but some sounds like cross-over distortion. Maybe due to leaky caps moving the bias point of the transistors. I remember listing to my father's 500D as a kid to one of three rock and roll stations in NYC (WMCA, WABC, and WNBC). Today AM radio is a waste land of talk, news and sports (and in south Florida Latin language). So imagine my surprise (and a blast from the past) when one of the first stations I found was WJNA 640 playing oldies! Dejavu all over again! Article: 335882 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:23:49 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:LLIkg.59405$qd2.47925@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > It seems the first of the 500D's didn't have the 500D logo on the front. > The latter ones did, and they also had the inverted speaker cone. > My father had one of those, I remember it had the "500D" logo on the > front. > Yes my radio does have the words 'long distance' on front and a concave > grill. > The radio does seem sensitive. It plays rather well for a 48 year old set. > Probably could stand some recaping, I think most of the electrolytic are > original. Someone along the way did replace the 2N407 driver transistor > with a TO-5 cased unit. If I can find a 2N407 or a similar TO-1 case > equal I'd like to switch it just to get the original style transistor > in there. The set does display some distortion, especially at higher > volume levels. Some of this must be in the speaker, but some sounds > like cross-over distortion. Maybe due to leaky caps moving the bias > point of the transistors. > > I remember listing to my father's 500D as a kid to one of three rock and > roll > stations in NYC (WMCA, WABC, and WNBC). Today AM radio is a waste land > of talk, news and sports (and in south Florida Latin language). So > imagine my surprise (and a blast from the past) when one of the first > stations > I found was WJNA 640 playing oldies! Dejavu all over again! You'll find there are only 4 electrolytics in the radio, if typical. Three are underneath the battery compartment. IIRC, there are two 50uf and one 10uf under there, and the last one is in the volume control circuit. Article: 335883 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 References: Message-ID: <_SJkg.9162$y%3.1958@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:34:41 -0400 Brenda Ann wrote: > "Ken Scharf" wrote in message > news:LLIkg.59405$qd2.47925@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >>It seems the first of the 500D's didn't have the 500D logo on the front. >>The latter ones did, and they also had the inverted speaker cone. >>My father had one of those, I remember it had the "500D" logo on the >>front. >>Yes my radio does have the words 'long distance' on front and a concave >>grill. >>The radio does seem sensitive. It plays rather well for a 48 year old set. >>Probably could stand some recaping, I think most of the electrolytic are >>original. Someone along the way did replace the 2N407 driver transistor >>with a TO-5 cased unit. If I can find a 2N407 or a similar TO-1 case >>equal I'd like to switch it just to get the original style transistor >>in there. The set does display some distortion, especially at higher >>volume levels. Some of this must be in the speaker, but some sounds >>like cross-over distortion. Maybe due to leaky caps moving the bias >>point of the transistors. >> >>I remember listing to my father's 500D as a kid to one of three rock and >>roll >>stations in NYC (WMCA, WABC, and WNBC). Today AM radio is a waste land >>of talk, news and sports (and in south Florida Latin language). So >>imagine my surprise (and a blast from the past) when one of the first >>stations >>I found was WJNA 640 playing oldies! Dejavu all over again! > > > You'll find there are only 4 electrolytics in the radio, if typical. Three > are underneath the battery compartment. IIRC, there are two 50uf and one > 10uf under there, and the last one is in the volume control circuit. > > > I think one is in the AGC circuit, and that one could be my distortion problem. But not only the electrolytics may be bad. I don't think ceramic caps go leaky, but there may be some plastic ones in the 1uf - .01 uf range that are suspect. Article: 335884 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:25:06 -0500 Sounds to me like you don't have enough heat. Article: 335885 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:29:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150337599.297628.74500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150455087.012457.277570@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 16 Jun 2006 03:51:27 -0700, smogchokedLosAngeles@hotmail.com wrote: >The only "people" ( I use that word in only a literary sense) that >would respond negatively to a 78rpm record ad, are ones that never >heard a good clean 78 before, on a good system. The records sound >great. A good copy sounds better than CD. More blubbering from the crook from Drums, PA. Now that his eBay and Audiogon fraud empires have crumbled, I hear he's gotten a monkey and an ocarina and will be "Charlie Nudo, the Organ Grinder of Scranton PA!" > >Add to it, this is an antique radio/PHONO site, yet they flame a 78 >disk F/S ad. Well hell's bells, old phonographs were designed to play- >you guess it- 78's ! > >They even flame F/S tube ads. Anyone in their right mind that knows you, Noodles, would report your ads. Your fraud and scam empire must be crushed like a cheap beer can. >If you noticed, NONE of the authors of the negative replies above, >contribute one constructive word to this site- they are all resident >TROLLS. The lurk, and troll- nothing more. >Their replies are best argument for a moderated group there is. They >actually ATTACK posts that are the heart of the subject matter the >group was created for. The people posting attacks to this 78rpm ad, >are the scum of the earth. More projection...Charlie Nudo = scum, thief, Usenet renegade spammer > >So take heart, don't cast your pearls amongst the swine. Just ignore >them. You are one of the enlightened who know how good a 78 can sound. On their BEST day, except for the mid-'50s Capitols and Deccas that were pressed on vinyl, they sound about as good as DX MW radio on a "skippy" night. And, the noise is free! They probably sound good to you because your system's crap. Article: 335886 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:32:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150450556.803640.64630@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:15:38 GMT, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: >On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:35:56 GMT, smogchokedLosAngeles@hotmail.com wrote: > >> I have gone thru the advert and everything seems perfect and exactly >> what i needed. > >If you're going to do sock-puppet shilling, then you need to be far less obvious about it. Charlie Nudo is a multiple personality sock puppeteer. Already, he's had SEVEN Google Groups accounts shut down and two eBay accounts for such behavior. Look for that Fisher 500C to magically reappear is some other venue soon. With his rep in complete shambles, he's getting desperate for cash. Article: 335887 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:30:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <16367$44917de9$d1cc7a4a$667@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <1150451825.562410.4910@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 16 Jun 2006 02:57:05 -0700, smogchokedLosAngeles@hotmail.com wrote: >when God was giving out brains... ...he plonked yours in NE Penna and filled it full of mercury from poisoned stream trout and toxic air from the Centralia fire! Article: 335888 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:37:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <59066$44917bce$d1cc7a4a$577@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <1150452021.096747.136280@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> On 16 Jun 2006 03:00:21 -0700, smogchokedLosAngeles@hotmail.com wrote: > >Bilboe iggy wrote: >> "Sorry, the item you were looking for must have been deleted. >> Please hit the back arrow on your browser to try another item." >> >> * GONE * (pooof!) >> >> Good job boys. Another auction scammer put down. (grin) > > >notice how he started a new username to do his trolling- it's desertbob >talking to himself- the snake that eats itself, once again... Let's see...this person posts from 209.204.91.XXX, and I post form somewhere completely different. Yeah, that's me sock puppeteering, Noodles. DUHHHHHH. > >http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=eiIiZh8AAADzZjG61EWI9_fa2-UBy1YbqZ7Hj6cvrGshrX8CMDc1Pg Continual use of "goo goo groopz" is the mark of a "net moron." Charlie Nudo certainly fills that bill! Article: 335889 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA EV 664 cables; two cables, two auctions -OT Spam. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:06:42 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150515634.617295.141710@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44937C05.12CE4623@earthlink.net> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:51:25 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >darrelldklein@yahoo.com wrote: > > >Off topic spam from a Road Runner account: 67.48.83.108 which is fed >from their Lincoln, Nebraska portal. > >Used mic cables have nothing to do with antique radios or phonos. > >abuse@rr.com >groups-abuse@google.com Done. See, Noodles? You're not the only one that feels the wrath of pissed off Usnetters exposed to wanton spam. Article: 335890 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Lutz Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:38:52 -0500 Message-ID: <19138-4493875C-394@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Or maybe it is spelled Luts.I saw a Lutz (Luts?) AM FM Stereo receiver at the Goodwill store this afternoon.Made in Japan,I think I remember it said on the back.There were two external speakers which I think came with the receiver and I plugged the speakers into the OUT jacks on the receiver,then I plugged the receiver into the wall outlet and turned it on.It lit up,but there was no sound.I looked all over that receiver,I could not see any volume control knob or anything that refered to volume at all. cuhulin Article: 335891 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:53:40 -0500 Message-ID: <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Gerry" wrote in message > The solder refuses to stick to the terminals. Checked the package (brand > new from Radio Shack). It specifically says "Solder type, tin-plated > brass." So why won't solder stick to the terminals? Is there > something you have to do to them first before solder will stick? > > Also, I've noticed that the tip of the soldering iron is deforming > after only a couple of week's use. An older one now has a hole right > through it! Is the rosin-core solder causing the tips to disintegrate? Gerry, I buy and use these terminals all the time, they never give me any trouble at all. Wire, solder, done. I agree that there's something not right with your soldering equipment. I've never seen either of these problems except with dollar-store-quality soldering irons. Raid your couch cushions for loose change and hie thee to either your local hardware store or eBay. Your hardware store will carry a $15 Weller orange-handled 40W iron that will work fine (though you'll have to find yourself a proper stand for it.) For another $20 you can get a nice used soldering station, like a Weller TCP series, and you'll go for years without having to replace a tip. For more money you can get a new soldering station like a Hakko 936. Heck, even the Chinese knockoffs of the Hakko would be better than what you're using now. This is no place to scrimp on tools. Buy quality, it will pay for itself many times over. And make sure you have good solder. I'd try 63/37 eutectic solder because it's easier to handle (Radio Shack carries decent solder in 1.5oz spools, but I saved some money and bought 2 lbs. of Kester 44 on eBay which will last me for years.) Good luck paul -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 335892 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Best way to clean up a Zenith copper chassis Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:58:23 GMT What paint did you use? Is there a hammertone copper paint available? I used to be able to get hammertone and wrinkle finish paints from auto supplies but they seem to have disappeared. Ray "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:vri192dqe6q0b9l3u83p5gvsda624jtj51@4ax.com... >I want to thank those on this forum who gave me advice on refinishing > the hammered copper on the chassis. The paint worked like a charm, and > using a piece of antenna to cut the masking tape over the rivet heads > was a great help. > > Here are some pictures of the finished chassis. > > http://www.wowway.com/~blacksmith1/12S_Walton_Before.jpg > > http://www.wowway.com/~blacksmith1/12S_Walton1.jpg > > http://www.wowway.com/~blacksmith1/12S_Walton2.jpg > > > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 335893 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:41:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: Ken Scharf wrote: > > It seems the first of the 500D's didn't have the 500D logo on the front. > The latter ones did, and they also had the inverted speaker cone. No inverted speaker? No "500D" on the front? Then what you have is not a 500D, it is an earlier model that is slightly different circuit-wise. A Sams photofact exists for the model you have, It is either 422-17 or 592-13. The set does display some distortion, especially at higher > volume levels. Some of this must be in the speaker, but some sounds > like cross-over distortion. Maybe due to leaky caps moving the bias > point of the transistors. Shotgun those electrolytic caps-The white ones marked with the "Nashville" brand name....They are notorious for failure and leakage, which manifests itself as distortion and parasitic oscillations which can be heard in the speaker on strong stations. > > I remember listing to my father's 500D as a kid to one of three rock and roll > stations in NYC (WMCA, WABC, and WNBC). Today AM radio is a waste land > of talk, news and sports (and in south Florida Latin language). So > imagine my surprise (and a blast from the past) when one of the first stations > I found was WJNA 640 playing oldies! Dejavu all over again! Yeah, the big corporate giants are finally beginning to figure out that these AM stations actually have to make money. I think most folks are weary of mediocre talk radio and so-called sports stations that are too cheap to actually carry any games live. Oldies are quite appealing to the aging boomers with money, so I would think that more stations are probably going to go in that direction in the coming years. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 335894 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:46:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150512588.969831.203870@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> nesesu wrote: > First of all, Gerry, the solder SHOULD flow nicely on those terminals. > Does it turn grey when you apply the heat and rosin solder? If so, the > plating is old and contaminated and will never solder properly. The > only solution in that case is to scrape off the plating down to clean > brass all over [a tedious job at best], and re-tin with solder, then > use as usual. I have found that a dremel tool with a rotating wire brush makes short work of removing the contamination, and it leaves a surface more consistent than scraping. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 335895 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <19138-4493875C-394@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Lutz Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:39:11 GMT Sure it wasn't just a tuner? If so it wouldn't be able to drive speakers and would explain the lack of a volume control. wrote in message news:19138-4493875C-394@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > Or maybe it is spelled Luts.I saw a Lutz (Luts?) AM FM Stereo receiver > at the Goodwill store this afternoon.Made in Japan,I think I remember it > said on the back.There were two external speakers which I think came > with the receiver and I plugged the speakers into the OUT jacks on the > receiver,then I plugged the receiver into the wall outlet and turned it > on.It lit up,but there was no sound.I looked all over that receiver,I > could not see any volume control knob or anything that refered to volume > at all. > cuhulin > Article: 335896 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150512588.969831.203870@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 02:56:09 -0500 Scott W. Harvey wrote: > nesesu wrote: > >> First of all, Gerry, the solder SHOULD flow nicely on those terminals. >> Does it turn grey when you apply the heat and rosin solder? If so, the >> plating is old and contaminated and will never solder properly. The >> only solution in that case is to scrape off the plating down to clean >> brass all over [a tedious job at best], and re-tin with solder, then >> use as usual. > > I have found that a dremel tool with a rotating wire brush makes short > work of removing the contamination, and it leaves a surface more > consistent than scraping. > > -Scott > > I wonder if the wire might be the problem as opposed to the terminal. I've had this problem when soldering the conductors for headphone leads. Phono cable could be similar. OP, if the wire uses cloth or fiber filaments woven through the wire for flex/strength, these can be burned away. Carefully applyi a flame to the bare ends. Be carefull, as by applying too much flame, you can easily melt the delicate conductor...it's about as substantial as foil. After burning away the flammable bits, scrape the remaining copper conductors with a knife to clean away the soot. Solder as normal. jak Article: 335897 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150450556.803640.64630@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:42:25 GMT On 16-Jun-2006, DeserTBoB wrote: >>> I have gone thru the advert and everything seems perfect and exactly >>> what i needed. >> >> If you're going to do sock-puppet shilling, then you need to be far less obvious about it. > > Charlie Nudo is a multiple personality sock puppeteer. Already, he's > had SEVEN Google Groups accounts shut down and two eBay accounts for > such behavior. > > Look for that Fisher 500C to magically reappear is some other venue > soon. With his rep in complete shambles, he's getting desperate for > cash. Well, he's evidently "lost it". Spamming here more quickly draws the attention of cyber-vigilantes; and gives them a basis distinct from issues of fraud for getting his auctions shut down. Sock-puppet shilling might work if the it weren't so obvious, but even then only if he didn't offer better arguments than Some LPs sell for huge sums therefore (all) LPs are quite valuable. (which would cause anyone with a _hint_ of common sense to wonder how valuable goods should be sold for a pittance). But he's emotionally committed, to an irrational degree, to not letting you defeat him. So he flails around like an enraged chihuahua with a brain injury. Article: 335898 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Sorry if repeat - FS Large Electrolytics Message-ID: References: <44924f38$0$12720$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1150455555.138478.321750@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44934b5b$0$12714$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1150505073.299350.179310@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:37:35 -0400 On 16 Jun 2006 17:44:33 -0700, "Steven" wrote: >If you don't need them and they're on eBay now Peter. > >I'll send more gravel for your Grape-Nuts. > >;-p Hey fatty, did you ever study English? __________________________________________________________ KE4ODD Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to prove it. *Used with express written permission of its creator. Article: 335899 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:45:30 GMT Tubes are easy, and with it going inside the Pooley bar cabinet it don't really matter what the box is like. $10 sounds like a deal to me. Ron Article: 335900 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 References: Message-ID: <9kUkg.25783$EX2.5606@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:28:29 -0400 Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Ken Scharf wrote: > >> >> It seems the first of the 500D's didn't have the 500D logo on the front. >> The latter ones did, and they also had the inverted speaker cone. > > > No inverted speaker? No "500D" on the front? Then what you have is not a > 500D, it is an earlier model that is slightly different circuit-wise. A > Sams photofact exists for the model you have, It is either 422-17 or > 592-13. > I read on some Zenith fan website that the very first 500D (well maybe prototype 500D's) lacked both the inverted speaker and logo on the front. Yet my set DOES have the rf stage. The closest schematic I could find on line was from the 1958 Beitmans chassis # 8AT40 / 8AT40Z2, which does seem to match. Wonder if anybody has a scan of the correct SAMS? > Shotgun those electrolytic caps-The white ones marked with the > "Nashville" brand name....They are notorious for failure and leakage, > which manifests itself as distortion and parasitic oscillations which > can be heard in the speaker on strong stations. Looks like a 3uf, a 50uf, and a 100uf cap. I probably have good, smaller physical sized tantalums in the junk box that will work fine. >> I remember listing to my father's 500D as a kid to one of three rock >> and roll >> stations in NYC (WMCA, WABC, and WNBC). Today AM radio is a waste land >> of talk, news and sports (and in south Florida Latin language). So >> imagine my surprise (and a blast from the past) when one of the first >> stations >> I found was WJNA 640 playing oldies! Dejavu all over again! > > > Yeah, the big corporate giants are finally beginning to figure out that > these AM stations actually have to make money. I think most folks are > weary of mediocre talk radio and so-called sports stations that are too > cheap to actually carry any games live. Oldies are quite appealing to > the aging boomers with money, so I would think that more stations are > probably going to go in that direction in the coming years. > Well WKAT 1630 tried going classical for about 2 years and gave up and went back to Christian talk (yuck). Miami used to have an FM classical station but they gave up a few years earlier and are now electronic dance! I don't know why the classical format doesn't work here. Maybe Miami just doesn't have any class. I might have to subscribe to XM or Sirius. Article: 335901 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:32:38 GMT Gerry wrote: > As far as the solder not sticking, it only seems to be a problem with > new terminal strips and other new parts from Radio Shack. And > What I have is lead-free, and works just fine on vintage parts. However, > if memory serves me, I grabbed that from the plumbing aisle at Home Depot Ok, you have two separate problems here. First, Radio Shack terminal strips have a shiny plating on them to make them look "nice" although it interferes with solder's ability to "wet" smoothly. Secondly, you're using lead free plumbing solder. Yeah, it works great with copper pipes, but it's really not designed to work well with older electronic repairs etc. The "iron clad" (plating) on the Weller iron tips should work well with regular 60/40 or 63/37 lead based solders and rosin flux. I suspect that there's some plating migration problem due to the lead free solder you're using. (Similar to how the plain copper tips erode with tin/lead solder) I would suggest buying (via mail order) a roll of Kester 60/40 rosin core solder. and in the .050 to 0.062" diameter size for electronic work, and a small bottle of Rosin based flux for those "stubborn" connections. As to the radio shack plated terminal strips, just roughing them up with the edge of an E-xacto knife is adequate. Using just a spot of rosin flux helps to get through the plating to the base metal as well. Now, I mentioned 63/37 solder above. It's the stuff used in the aerospace industry as it behaves differently from 60/40 solder. With the standard 60/40 solder, there's a bit of an odd "plastic" state that the molten solder goes through before it cools down and becomes solid. Any movement during that plastic state causes a bad solder connection. (What was called a "cold solder joint") The 63/37 solder transitions directly >from a liquid to a solid without the plastic state and as such made it much easier to avoid problematic joints due to movement while cooling. Additionally, 50/50 solder is what used to be used in plumbing and for car radiators etc. It has a lower melting point and softer "hardness" than the 60/40 solder mixtures. The electronics industry is moving to lead free solder. The "Buzz word" for this is RohS, however, that is for new designs and typically surface mounted parts. The materials used in the vintage stuff we work on was all designed with 60/40 lead based solder and rosin flux in mind. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 335902 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:29:30 -0600 Message-ID: <14061-44941FDA-626@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Tomatoe juice , Coke , spit and plumbing solder . no find another hobby . Article: 335903 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:39:42 -0500 Message-ID: <449414dc$0$3686$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Gerry" wrote in message news:1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > I'm inclined to believe it is the solder. Perhaps the core is too > acidic and meant only for plumbing??? I used lead-based solder all the > time with my old soldering iron. Yeah, that would do it. Go back to Radio Shack and get the high-tech 63/37 rosin core eutectic solder. I suspect your problem is that lead-free solder alloys have higher melting points than tin-lead solders and your little irons aren't generating enough heat to make a good joint. A cheap iron won't be able to get the terminal hot enough to get that lead-free solder to stick. Get a solder with a lower melting point (the 63/37 is the lowest commonly available at retail) and try again. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 335904 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Born Loser From: "mike48151" References: Message-ID: <4qVkg.203180$Fs1.52025@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:42:56 GMT And now, trite personal attacks: Article: 335905 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:34:51 -0500 Message-ID: <5360-4494211B-547@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150555631.917954.73030@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Anybody can solder.Even I know how to solder,and that says a lot.I know how to weld too. Shacks Welding that used to be across the mighty Pearl River,in Flowood,from Jackson.Shacks Welding used to have a radio commercial,,,, We Can Weld Anything But The Crack Of Dawn. (and Dawn was a good old gal) cuhulin Article: 335906 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:41:01 -0600 Message-ID: <14061-4494228D-627@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: <9kUkg.25783$EX2.5606@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Find a good capacitor close in value and touch it across ones in the radio while its playing to show you if the ones in there are weak . Superglue is not good for speaker cones . If you need the speaker reconed and want to spend the $ i recone them with NOS cones . Article: 335907 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Lutz Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:40:04 -0500 Message-ID: <5361-44942254-105@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: I dont know,maybe it is just a tuner.It looked to me like a big cheap whatever it is.I quickly lost interest in it and,,,, I Waltzed across Texas. www.gitpicker.com (Song List) cuhulin Article: 335908 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:58:12 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > Did you say, plumbing? > > Soldering 101: Yes, your solder is a BIG problem!!! > > I suggest, right now, buy some RESIN CORE solder for electronics, and buy a > desoldering tool. Go and find every solder joint you've made with the > plumbing solder, which indeed is acid core, and remove as much solder as you > can, then resolder with the proper stuff. If you don't, you will soon have > problems with EVERY joint you've soldered! The acid will eat into the > connections and they will go bad. > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > "Gerry" wrote in message > news:1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > > > > Paul Dietenberger wrote: > >> "Gerry" wrote in message > > > >> > Also, I've noticed that the tip of the soldering iron is deforming > >> > after only a couple of week's use. An older one now has a hole right > >> > through it! Is the rosin-core solder causing the tips to disintegrate? > > > >> Your hardware store will carry a $15 Weller > >> orange-handled 40W iron that will work fine (though you'll have to find > >> yourself a proper stand for it.) > > > > Um - the one that developed the hole in it *is* a 40-watt Weller! > > Bought it last year, although I only used it a few times until the past > > month or so. Tried to buy new tips for it, but Home Depot doesn't sell > > the tips separately. Only the electronics store 10 miles away seems to > > sell those tips separately. (If Radio Shack sells that brand, they > > were out of them...) Not sure what the tip is, but it's a dull silver > > color. Meantime, I ran across the "Dollar Store" variety that came > > with 5 tips for $6, which appear to be brass (or brass-colored) and is > > 25 or 30 watts. > > > > As far as the solder not sticking, it only seems to be a problem with > > new terminal strips and other new parts from Radio Shack. They are > > very shiny, as opposed to vintage ones which are very dull. Some > > Googling came up with several suggestions to use flux, and others > > suggest a 60/40 lead-based solder. What I have is lead-free, and works > > just fine on vintage parts. However, if memory serves me, I grabbed > > that from the plumbing aisle at Home Depot... It doesn't say whether > > it's specifically for plumbing or electronics, or what it is comprised > > of. > > > > Also, some other suggestions I found regarding flux mention using > > acidic liquids such as tomatoe juice or coke if you don't have any > > flux. One even used spit! > > > > I'm inclined to believe it is the solder. Perhaps the core is too > > acidic and meant only for plumbing??? I used lead-based solder all the > > time with my old soldering iron. No flux or rosin core or anything. > > No problem at all with that one. It's about 40 years old and (I think) > > a ceramic shaft with a small chisel tip (silver-colored). Problem is, > > I can't find it!!! Hence the reason for buying the Weller and later > > the Cheap-O. I guess I better start digging around and find it and the > > lead-based solder, or make a trip to the hardware store... > > > > Gerry > > A few minor points, Gary. Its "Rosin", not "Resin", and the problem with corrosion is worse on insulated wiring. Capillary action wicks the flux up under the insulation, sometimes several inches. The wire will then corrode, whether you replace the solder, or not. If you want to remove that solder I would use solder wick, unless you want to ruin your desoldering iron, too. Plumbing solder comes in two basic types: Solid core with no flux, or Acid core. The lead free stuff uses a very strong acid and takes more heat to melt. It also eats soldering tips like crazy. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335909 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:32:40 GMT Well that might possibly be his answer -- if he's using solid wire solder, he will indeed have trouble getting the solder to stick to the terminals, or anything else. But at least he won't have to tear it apart and start over. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net... > Gary Tayman wrote: >> >> Did you say, plumbing? >> >> Soldering 101: Yes, your solder is a BIG problem!!! >> >> I suggest, right now, buy some RESIN CORE solder for electronics, and buy >> a >> desoldering tool. Go and find every solder joint you've made with the >> plumbing solder, which indeed is acid core, and remove as much solder as >> you >> can, then resolder with the proper stuff. If you don't, you will soon >> have >> problems with EVERY joint you've soldered! The acid will eat into the >> connections and they will go bad. >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> "Gerry" wrote in message >> news:1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Paul Dietenberger wrote: >> >> "Gerry" wrote in message >> > >> >> > Also, I've noticed that the tip of the soldering iron is deforming >> >> > after only a couple of week's use. An older one now has a hole >> >> > right >> >> > through it! Is the rosin-core solder causing the tips to >> >> > disintegrate? >> > >> >> Your hardware store will carry a $15 Weller >> >> orange-handled 40W iron that will work fine (though you'll have to >> >> find >> >> yourself a proper stand for it.) >> > >> > Um - the one that developed the hole in it *is* a 40-watt Weller! >> > Bought it last year, although I only used it a few times until the past >> > month or so. Tried to buy new tips for it, but Home Depot doesn't sell >> > the tips separately. Only the electronics store 10 miles away seems to >> > sell those tips separately. (If Radio Shack sells that brand, they >> > were out of them...) Not sure what the tip is, but it's a dull silver >> > color. Meantime, I ran across the "Dollar Store" variety that came >> > with 5 tips for $6, which appear to be brass (or brass-colored) and is >> > 25 or 30 watts. >> > >> > As far as the solder not sticking, it only seems to be a problem with >> > new terminal strips and other new parts from Radio Shack. They are >> > very shiny, as opposed to vintage ones which are very dull. Some >> > Googling came up with several suggestions to use flux, and others >> > suggest a 60/40 lead-based solder. What I have is lead-free, and works >> > just fine on vintage parts. However, if memory serves me, I grabbed >> > that from the plumbing aisle at Home Depot... It doesn't say whether >> > it's specifically for plumbing or electronics, or what it is comprised >> > of. >> > >> > Also, some other suggestions I found regarding flux mention using >> > acidic liquids such as tomatoe juice or coke if you don't have any >> > flux. One even used spit! >> > >> > I'm inclined to believe it is the solder. Perhaps the core is too >> > acidic and meant only for plumbing??? I used lead-based solder all the >> > time with my old soldering iron. No flux or rosin core or anything. >> > No problem at all with that one. It's about 40 years old and (I think) >> > a ceramic shaft with a small chisel tip (silver-colored). Problem is, >> > I can't find it!!! Hence the reason for buying the Weller and later >> > the Cheap-O. I guess I better start digging around and find it and the >> > lead-based solder, or make a trip to the hardware store... >> > >> > Gerry >> > > > A few minor points, Gary. Its "Rosin", not "Resin", and the problem > with corrosion is worse on insulated wiring. Capillary action wicks the > flux up under the insulation, sometimes several inches. The wire will > then corrode, whether you replace the solder, or not. If you want to > remove that solder I would use solder wick, unless you want to ruin your > desoldering iron, too. > > Plumbing solder comes in two basic types: Solid core with no flux, > or Acid core. The lead free stuff uses a very strong acid and takes > more heat to melt. It also eats soldering tips like crazy. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 335910 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:29:24 -0500 Message-ID: <5361-44943BF4-112@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: The tree year old girl down the street knows how to solder.But,dont trust her too much though. cuhulin Article: 335911 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:29:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Gerry wrote: > Paul Dietenberger wrote: > >>"Gerry" wrote in message > > >>>Also, I've noticed that the tip of the soldering iron is deforming >>>after only a couple of week's use. An older one now has a hole right >>>through it! Is the rosin-core solder causing the tips to disintegrate? > > >>Your hardware store will carry a $15 Weller >>orange-handled 40W iron that will work fine (though you'll have to find >>yourself a proper stand for it.) > > > Um - the one that developed the hole in it *is* a 40-watt Weller! > Bought it last year, although I only used it a few times until the past > month or so. Tried to buy new tips for it, but Home Depot doesn't sell > the tips separately. Only the electronics store 10 miles away seems to > sell those tips separately. The Black or orange-handled wellers without a base use a tip that is made of some sort of soft-metal alloy that decays rather quickly. The more expensive Weller irons use a harder tip that is considerably more resistant to erosion. Here is a breakdown of tip longetivity based on my own experiences: Black or orange handled irons w/o temperature control-low cost, shortest life span. Orange handled solder station with temperature control- inexpensive, short to medium life span Blue handled irons w/o temperature control- more expensive, medium to long life span Blue handled solder stations-most expensive,longest life span I ran into the same problem you did about 10 years ago....I had one of the black-handled wellers with a rotted tip, and no local retailer available to sell me a replacement tip. What I wound up doing was buying replacement tips from Radio Shack for one of their irons (slightly smaller diameter) and putting a few strands of copper wire in the hole along with the tip to hold it snug when I installed it in the Weller handle. This kludge worked rather well; in fact I continued to use it that way for some weeks afterward. > As far as the solder not sticking, it only seems to be a problem with > new terminal strips and other new parts from Radio Shack. They are > very shiny, as opposed to vintage ones which are very dull. Some > Googling came up with several suggestions to use flux, and others > suggest a 60/40 lead-based solder. What I have is lead-free, and works > just fine on vintage parts. However, if memory serves me, I grabbed > that from the plumbing aisle at Home Depot... It doesn't say whether > it's specifically for plumbing or electronics, or what it is comprised > of. > > Also, some other suggestions I found regarding flux mention using > acidic liquids such as tomatoe juice or coke if you don't have any > flux. One even used spit! > > I'm inclined to believe it is the solder. Perhaps the core is too > acidic and meant only for plumbing??? I used lead-based solder all the > time with my old soldering iron. No flux or rosin core or anything. > No problem at all with that one. It's about 40 years old and (I think) > a ceramic shaft with a small chisel tip (silver-colored). Problem is, > I can't find it!!! Hence the reason for buying the Weller and later > the Cheap-O. I guess I better start digging around and find it and the > lead-based solder, or make a trip to the hardware store... Aye yi YII!! I have learned to NEVER use solder of unknown composition on any electronics, and only trust hardware-store solder after verifying it will "take" on all surfaces that electronic solder normally works with. Back in my youth, Fred Meyer used to sell solder in their hardware department that everyone in my electronics circle of friends referred to as "shit solder". It was definitely rosin-core solder designed for electronic work, but that was where the similarity to normal solder ended....The stuff was amazing, you could crank your soldering iron up to 800 degrees and the stuff would melt a little but NEVER liquefy.....It was completely useless for anything. Stick with the major brands like 63/37 Kester or Multicore and you will avoid this uncetainty. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 335912 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:47:53 -0700 Message-ID: <4rf892tulkc5tbb78d7uflvdbshbq3vocc@4ax.com> References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150450556.803640.64630@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:42:25 GMT, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: >But he's emotionally committed, to an irrational degree, to not letting you defeat him. So he flails around like an enraged chihuahua with a brain injury. Closer to the probable physical description than is probably comfortable. The brain injury part is definitely accurate. He seems to have gotten worse since I suggest that he forget Internet fraudstering, get a monkey and become an organ grinder plying the streets of Scranton for tips. He might as well; his eBay auction failure rate is now hovering in the 90s all the time, and he appears to be limited to only 10 items at a time. Thus, he's invading other venues, such as Audiogon, where he was outed straight away. I'm sure Bidz.com and other online sites have his junk on them by now, as well. Article: 335913 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:55:17 -0700 Message-ID: <73g892hqtevim89kkkjvn0oqnn8ck3kaqh@4ax.com> References: <1150288850.505245.144580@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150337599.297628.74500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150455087.012457.277570@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150542680.300392.166610@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1150543185.012350.67890@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 17 Jun 2006 04:19:45 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >I've listened to clean electrically recorded 78's- that were nearly >noiseless. They sounded better than a CD You have to remember...Charlie Nudo is mentally ill with paranoid delusional features, and thus, "up is down" in his scrambled brain. > >Keep in mind that a CD is merely a computer program playing music, as >best it can, using 0's and 1's binary code- and a pre-programmed range >of how that music "should" sound, based on that binary code. Close, >but not close enough. So barely a 30 dB signal-to-noise ratio is somehow better than a constant 90 dB...WRONG. So a telephonic frequency response of around 100KHz to 4KHz is somehow better than around 10Hz to 22KHz, flat to within tenths of a dB....WRONG. The problem here is Charlie Nudo, aka 66fourdoor on ebay, aka akiam8 on Audiogon, is mentally challenged to the point of living in an "alternative reality." Just look at some of his political and religious posts on some of his other sock puppet accounts from epix.net...the guy's nutzo! > >When music is made, it's made by physical contact inside the intruments >and voices- to best reproduce that, there has to be an actual contact >in the sound reproducer as well. WHAT??? > >That's why records of any type sound best. Wow...he's worse off than even I thought, and I pegged him as a schizoid years ago. > >The sound of a drum, is the sound of a drum stick hitting the drum >skin. When we attempt to reproduce that by a computer reading 0's and >1's, then translating it with a DAC, then to a speaker, much is lost. In your deluded brain, perhaps. In reality, the "losses" caused by non linearities in the analog recording and playback system far outweight losses caused by PCM enocding/decoding...which you obviously don't even have a slight clue as to how it works, or what it is. It's not a "computer program." But, how can one explain this to a moron on a thrift shop computer with no security updates? > >The needle reading it out of a groove by actual contact with the >record, then amplifying it, then to the speaker- is much more realistic >sounding. e's WAY out in the thin air! > >Yes, many prefer the original 78rpm equipment- but there's a lot more >musical info on those old disks, than the original equipment can >decipher. In your toxin filled brain, perhaps. To normal brains, no. You've been breathing toxins from that Centralia mine fire all your life, were a pot head in high school, have emotional damage from being disowned by your father, so...you're just a nut basket! Face reality, Noodles. Get that monkey and become and organ grinder. It may be the only job you can do well. Article: 335914 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:03:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > Did you say, plumbing? > > Soldering 101: Yes, your solder is a BIG problem!!! > > I suggest, right now, buy some RESIN CORE solder for electronics, and buy a > desoldering tool. Go and find every solder joint you've made with the > plumbing solder, which indeed is acid core, and remove as much solder as you > can, then resolder with the proper stuff. If you don't, you will soon have > problems with EVERY joint you've soldered! The acid will eat into the > connections and they will go bad. > > Forget it...If acid-core plumbing solder was used, The damage is done and cannot be undone short of replacing the terminals that were soldered to. Years ago, my dad accidentally mixed some plumber's solder in with my stash of rosin-core solder. I used it to make a few connections on a project I was working on before I realized what happened. I removed the solder as completely as humanly possible, and put a wet baking-soda solution on the terminals to neutralize any remaining acid, and then resoldered the affected terminals with rosin-core solder. It didn't work. A few weeks later there was noticeable corrosion on all the terminals that had been hit with the acid-core stuff. I remember at one of the Silicon Valley companies I once worked for, there was a production manager who would tell the building maintenance personnel that they would be fired if they even brought acid-core plumbing solder into the same building where the electronic assembly area was. They used solid-core solder with acid paste flux to do the plumbing work instead. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 335915 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Zenith Battery Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:15:28 -0500 Message-ID: <5360-449446C0-570@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <7%Skg.1656$nS5.448@trnddc07> Zenith never made anything that was any good.Overated Crap,overated price,overated hype,is Zenith Wortheless JUNK. cuhulin Article: 335916 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Lutz Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:12:17 -0500 Message-ID: <5361-44944601-115@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: I am too drunk to drive today.(I hope Vanessa,she shows up next door,today) I dont care that much about that stupid Lutz,whatever it is,anyway.I think it's a piece of worthless junk,and if it was priced for free,free would be too much.I love you,Edna. cuhulin Article: 335917 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: I did Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:21:27 -0500 Message-ID: <5360-44944827-571@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> I worked at Zenith in 1960.The best thing about zenith is one day I had to go to an office about something.I told that office girl about Zenith's motto.She pointed at me and she laughed out loud.I slunk away >from her with my tail up my leggs. cuhulin Article: 335918 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Originate Marconi Collection is online Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:43:59 +0200 Message-ID: Dear all, the 'Marcony Corporation' donated their historic collection to 'The Museum of the History of Science' within the University of Oxford, UK. Special exhibition 'Wireless World: Marconi & the making of radio' is to be seen until October 1st, 2006. The University provides further travel details and maps: http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/about/index.htm?location Fortunately they provide a virtual museum: http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/marconi/collection click on 'Browse' ... you will be astonished (like me). Kind Regards Georg Richter Article: 335919 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Born Loser Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:13:04 -0500 Message-ID: <22800-44948C80-559@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150584369.190751.45060@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> hoo,you? cuhulin Article: 335920 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: It's Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:16:47 -0500 Message-ID: <22800-44948D5F-563@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> rainin here like a cow peein on a brown flat rock.Before it started rainin,I tuned my cheap water sprinkler on.I am not goin out there in that thunerin n lightnin now and turn it off. cuhulin Article: 335921 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <449494CF.E10A63FC@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Best way to clean up a Zenith copper chassis References: <44945AD2.BA7E0BE7@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:49:04 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:41:39 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > wrote: > > >Blacksmith wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:58:23 GMT, "Rune" > >> wrote: > >> > >> >What paint did you use? Is there a hammertone copper paint available? > >> > > >> >I used to be able to get hammertone and wrinkle finish paints from auto > >> >supplies but they seem to have disappeared. > >> > > >> >Ray > >> > >> Rustoleum "Hammered Copper" paint. I found that if you make quick > >> passes holding the can about a foot away won't give the effect of the > >> hammered copper. You have to spray about 8-10 inches away and fairly > >> slowly. Try it on scrap first and you'll see what I mean. > >> > >> Blacksmith > >> wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom > > > > > > With hammertone paint you want to apply a smooth coat, with no runs > >and let it dry a few minutes. Then you spatter the second coat to create > >the hammered effect. I used a lot of Hammertone and wrinkle paint back > >in the '70s when I restored my collection of early metal cased test > >equipment. > > How do you "spatter" the second coat? > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom I was using Illinois Bronze spray paint, and the their cans sputtered if you just barely pushed the valve. By selecting the distance, you could have a fine, or slightly coarse hammertone. The trick was to maintain the right pressure and distance for the whole surface. Now, I would have to weld up a jig to let me do it right. The only Hammertone paint I have right now is four half pint cans that have to be sprayed on with a paint brush, or paint gun. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335922 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <5360-44944827-571@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: I did Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 02:25:11 GMT Now lemme get this straight . . . You're telling me that Zenith is overrated, and everything they ever made is a pile of crap. Everything, from the Super Transoceanics to the Z-1000 Stratosphere, and everything in between. All of their TV sets, all of those big console radios with the second-hand dials, those Walton tombstones, the Rotomatic car radios, and who can forget the little transistor sets with the egg-shaped speakers. It includes my 25-year-old (Heathkit/Zenith) System 3 console TV that I still use every day. Yes indeed, everything Zenith ever made, suddenly revealed to us on this 17th day of June, 2006, has been all crap from the beginning. And why is Zenith such a pile of crap? Because you worked for them in 1960, and when you talked to a girl about Zenith quality, she took one look at you and laughed her head off! I'm not even gonna comment . . . I'll sit this one out. :-) -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:5360-44944827-571@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... >I worked at Zenith in 1960.The best thing about zenith is one day I had > to go to an office about something.I told that office girl about > Zenith's motto.She pointed at me and she laughed out loud.I slunk away > from her with my tail up my leggs. > cuhulin > Article: 335923 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: Originate Marconi Collection is online Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:25:36 -0500 Thanks, George. It is an astonishing catalog effort. On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:43:59 +0200, "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote: >Dear all, > >the 'Marcony Corporation' donated their historic collection to 'The >Museum of the History of Science' within the University of Oxford, UK. > >Special exhibition 'Wireless World: Marconi & the making of radio' >is to be seen until October 1st, 2006. > >The University provides further travel details and maps: >http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/about/index.htm?location > >Fortunately they provide a virtual museum: > >http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/marconi/collection > >click on 'Browse' ... you will be astonished (like me). > >Kind Regards >Georg Richter > Article: 335924 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Bogalusa Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:28:53 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-4494E495-552@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> That old wooden floor model wind up phonograph of mine was made by Bogalusa Furniture MFG.Co.Bogalusa,Louisiana.Bogalusa USA Better Brand.Patents Pending,it says on a little metal plate inside the cabinet.On the spring motor it says,United Air Cleaner Co.Chicago,Ill 6229 The cabinet is in good condition and all of the parts,including the motor and speaker are there.The turntable's cover/pad is missing.I think the phonograph dates back to the 1940's or 1950's. cuhulin Article: 335925 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: It's Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-4494E58D-553@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150597966.049740.145080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Thank you Monty Python for sending rain,we really needed it.I might wash my van so it will rain again. cuhulin Article: 335926 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Zenith Battery Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:37:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7%Skg.1656$nS5.448@trnddc07> <5360-449446C0-570@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:15:28 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >Zenith never made anything that was any good.Overated Crap,overated >price,overated hype,is Zenith Wortheless JUNK. This clown and Nudo should go into business together. Article: 335927 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:41:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150294738.343807.99780@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150320179.466628.292610@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150331452.468396.249220@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150337599.297628.74500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150455087.012457.277570@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150542680.300392.166610@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1150543185.012350.67890@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150607920.033728.77060@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> On 17 Jun 2006 22:18:40 -0700, "Gerry" wrote: >Again, a properly restored vintage recording on CD is actually closer >to how it sounded when recorded. Records are several generations away >from the master recording, and with each generation, more of the >original signal is lost, and more noise and distortion introduced. A >restored recording on CD is a digital copy of either the master wax, >metal "mother", or tape. More information is heard than could ever be >heard on the mass-produced record. The idiot you're trying to educate, Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, cannot fathom "generational loss." He thinks that his illegal dubs he used to flog on eBay (until he got shut down) were just as good as the originals. He also sells phony alignment cartridges, thinking that running them off by the gross on his cheeseball, misaligned home machines is just as good as the dupe line that GC Electronics ran his original off with. Of course, the GC Electronics tape was one of the worst as it was...Noodles just makes it worse by duping on an uncalibarted machine. You cannot explain the finer points of audio and electronics to an idiot like Charlie Nudo, just like you cannot explain to rabid right wing 'tardos that Jack Murtha is right on the money. Noodles is both...an idiot and a right winger. The two seem to go together far to often. Article: 335928 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Born Loser From: "mike48151" References: <1150584369.190751.45060@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:32:12 GMT On 17-Jun-2006, "Steven" wrote: >> And now, trite personal attacks: > > What attacks? Who the hell are you and why can't you at least reply > WITH the alleged attacks? The point was to PRE-EMPT the cheap shots that could be made riffing off the Subject/Title-of-the-Strip. This group has a lot of gratuitous personal attacks, unrelated to the prior entries in the threads in which they appear. I just wanted to choke off a bit of that. Article: 335929 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Born Loser Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:11:23 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-449518BB-564@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I am not a loser.I Joined the U.S.Army in October 1962.I did my three years (1964,Vietnam,my eight years older brother was in Vietnam same year I was,I once caught the Chaplin Run to go visit him at Vung Tau) his second Tour of Duty in Vietnam,following a year in Gemany.Go here, www.angelfire.com/md2/Ldotvets ) and I went back to civilian life.If you are looking at me as a loser,,, YOU came to the wrong place!!!! cuhulin Article: 335930 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:18:19 -0500 Message-ID: <8564-44951A5B-100@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: She wants to ride my 1961 Hercules (it has bicycle pedals on it) Moped.She isn't big enough yet,but Lordy mercy,she sure does know how to wrap me around her little finger. cuhulin Article: 335931 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Zenith Battery Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:21:02 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-44951AFE-565@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I worked at Zenith.I Know what Zenith is about. cuhulin Article: 335932 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:28:56 -0500 Message-ID: <8564-44951CD8-101@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Yeah,she really did,that girl in the Zenith office pointed at me and she laughed like crazy.I had to sign some papers in that office and I was laughing with her (I can still see her laughing mug now) all the way out of that office.Jodie was/is her name. cuhulin Article: 335933 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:24:22 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-44951BC6-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I never said Zenith is a pile of crap.Go put words in somebody eleses mouth. cuhulin Article: 335934 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Born Loser From: "mike48151" References: <8563-449518BB-564@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:32:29 GMT On 18-Jun-2006, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > If you are looking at me as a loser,,, Could you explain your inferential process here for me? Article: 335935 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I did From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <8563-44951BC6-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:42:08 GMT On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:24:22 GMT, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I never said Zenith is a pile of crap.Go put words in somebody eleses > mouth. Earlier, on Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:15:28 GMT, in message <5360-449446C0-570@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Zenith never made anything that was any good.Overated Crap,overated > price,overated hype,is Zenith Wortheless JUNK. *shrug* Article: 335936 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:33:28 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-44951DE8-567@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Gary,you live in the South,do you not? You know better than to try that nonsense on this old Southern boy. cuhulin Article: 335937 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Born Loser Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:38:56 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-44951F30-569@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Not untill you explain what interfiential means.Hey,I want to see ''that phonograph'' again. cuhulin Article: 335938 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:36:18 -0500 Message-ID: <8563-44951E92-568@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I only pointed out to that girl,At Zenith The quality goes in before the name goes on. Go take a break,you been workin on too many radios lately. cuhulin Article: 335939 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Born Loser From: "mike48151" References: <8563-44951F30-569@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:52:17 GMT On 18-Jun-2006, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Not untill you explain what interfiential means. The word "inferential" means _of_the_process_of_inference_. _Inference_ is arriving at conclusions (tentative, probabilistic, or otherwise) from evidence or from presumption or from some combination of the two. Article: 335940 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay From: "mike48151" References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:54:55 GMT On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 05:39:19 GMT, Mark Oppat wrote: > For some reason, I cant always highlight and copy the ebay search that is > shown in the box above the auction listing. Can anyone explain why? Your heart is not pure and/or some other process is not releasing focus. From wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com Sun Jun 18 13:13:17 EDT 2006 Article: 335941 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Fisher 190B From: Wayne Boatwright References: <1150630588.451744.160590@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/2006.03.14 X-Face: '2=UjhX-y3vfeO94nyru(,e&{Lf^eJ&15S#rcuk:e{unjSRN4yZ69Z'ePMJsPO"6\s'iVZ0OZ>_ NNTP-Posting-Host: $$-cwgql-pnn4p.newsgate.x-privat.org Date: 18 Jun 2006 14:25:28 +0200 Organization: X-Privat NNTP Server - http://www.x-privat.org Lines: 25 X-Complaints-To: abuse@x-privat.org Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!news.litech.org!news2.arglkargh.de!news.n-ix.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!81.174.50.156.MISMATCH!redpower.x-privat.org!newsgate.x-privat.org!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:335941 Oh pshaw, on Sun 18 Jun 2006 04:36:28a, Gerry meant to say... > Just picked up a Fisher 190B receiver for $5 at a flea market > yesterday. Only one channel worked when I tried it out. It seems the > previous owner had replaced the internal fuses with the wrong rated > fuses and one blew. I put in the right type and now both channels play > fine so far... Surprisingly good, actually, considering it's an older > solid state model. (I'm dying to get one of the tube model Fishers, > but I ain't got the $$$ for one!) > > Unfortunately, the labels around some of the knobs are worn away. The > only other problem I've noticed so far is the FM Stereo indicator light > is burnt out. How difficult would it be to find and install a > replacement? I can't find any information on this model on the net. > Does anyone have any info on it, such as the output wattage, what the > knobs are labeled, or perhaps a good photo of the front panel? A copy > of the owner's manual? Perhaps you could enlarge this photo enough to make out the detail: http://i5.tinypic.com/14tc2g1.jpg -- Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬ _____________________ Article: 335942 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:13:29 -0500 Message-ID: <16411-44954369-610@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Kind of like that married Irish woman wayyyyyy over yonder across the big pond.She hired Tony to remodel her bathroom,but Tony didn't know anything.She wound up phoning Broughs Plumbing company to straighten that mess up.Tony tried to solder up a water pipe.At least you have to give Tony E for Effort.Old Tony wound up drinking her money down the drain at a pub. cuhulin Article: 335943 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Born Loser Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:14:35 -0500 Message-ID: <16412-449543AB-129@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Thank GOD I am not you. cuhulin Article: 335944 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:16:22 -0500 Message-ID: <16411-44954416-611@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: TRUE,Zenith never has made anything that was any good. cuhulin Article: 335945 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:17:42 -0500 Message-ID: <16411-44954466-612@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: 'shrug' your lips over to somebody else.You are wasting your time with me! cuhulin Article: 335946 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Born Loser From: "mike48151" References: <16412-449543AB-129@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:27:11 GMT On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:14:35 GMT, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Thank GOD I am not you. And why, pray tell, have you decided to become insulting? Article: 335947 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:33:51 -0500 Message-ID: <13170-4495563F-691@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: DITTO CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 335948 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:35:21 -0500 Message-ID: <13170-44955699-692@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <8564-44951CD8-101@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE THOUSANDS LAUGHING AT YOU NOW. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 335949 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:21:38 -0600 Message-ID: <1553-44956172-64@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <8563-44951BC6-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin is Steven Article: 335950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay From: "mike48151" References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:53:50 GMT On 18-Jun-2006, "graham" wrote: > ... shorted the link to just past the item number .. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1932-Ozarka-V6-tombstone-tube-radio-RARE_W0QQitemZ6638607175 Shorter still: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6638607175 Article: 335951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:12:08 -0400 Anyone have a reference on what the different parts of a console radio cabinet are named? Like I call the heavy wood at the bottom the 'kick board'. Is this correct? I guess the sides and top are self explanatory, but what about the various pannels that make up the front? There must have been names for all the pieces at the furnature factory. Article: 335952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" Subject: test - no need to open Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:30:19 -0400 Message-ID: <44957f89$0$12725$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> In case anyone is "reading" this, I know there is "A" group supposedly for testing, problem is, my posts are working on SOME groups but not all. So, I have to check to see the problem and try to resolve. Sorry for intrusion. Article: 335953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <44924f38$0$12720$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1150455555.138478.321750@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44934b5b$0$12714$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44957EE6.965D0058@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sorry if repeat - FS Large Electrolytics Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:32:10 -0400 Message-ID: <44957ff8$0$12714$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44957EE6.965D0058@earthlink.net... > clfe wrote: >> >> I understand what you're saying. With the lower range caps I can check - >> but >> not the extremely higher ones. Some if not all were "Mallory". BUT - I >> guess >> I"m offering them cheap enough that just one would be worth it if a few >> were >> bought - given their values and potential prices. That's all I can say >> for >> now. If anyone has any idea how to test the "higher" value caps - other >> than >> an OHMS test, I'd be happy to do it if I'm so equipped. >> >> As to "storage conditions" they were in a plastic storage container - >> sealed. Age? NO........ >> >> clfe > > > You can check the ESR on the higher value capacitors to see if they > are still good. Capacitors in that range need a digital ESR meter > because you can't read the value on a cramped analog meter. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida I kinda figured that - but I have no ESR meter - so unfortunately - no can do. Oh well............... I'm selling them cheap enough - someone can take a gamble. But - now they're on E-Bay.............. IF not sold, the next stop is the trash can - I have to clear out this stuff. Thanks for all the suggestions just the same.......... Much appreciated. Article: 335954 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: I did References: <8563-44951BC6-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <1553-44956172-64@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:00:13 GMT Ken G. wrote: > cuhulin is Steven Aha, that explains a lot. Methinks today requires an extra PLONK. Bill Article: 335955 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! References: <1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:04:28 -0400 At $25 an hour(cheap), you saved yourself $625, and had fun doing it. Ken pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > That 15 tube Zenith chassis that had the fire lives to play tunes > another day! Whew! New band switch (3 deck), new octal socket, > numerous terminal strips, new first detector and oscillator coils and a > bunch of new wiring. The fire also melted the stator on the tuning > condensor. Luckily, the power tranny was still good. My bet is the > fire started on the middle switch deck, which just happens to be > switching B+. Replacement parts were taken from a 9S chassis of the > same year that had the same parts. It took about 25 hours. > Dave >