Article 34210 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Euaghelos Karakassis" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Need Greek Queens Inmediatly. Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:42:12 +0300 Organization: An OTEnet S.A. customer Lines: 78 Message-ID: References: <3e86d366@news.airtel.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kate364-isdn-b056.otenet.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2F85C.E17C61E0" X-Trace: usenet.otenet.gr 1049197374 13572 195.167.120.184 (1 Apr 2003 11:42:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@otenet.gr NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:42:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!skynet.be!skynet.be!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!news.otenet.gr!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34210 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2F85C.E17C61E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are producer of Greek queens (A.melifera,cecropia,chalkidiki). These = quees are very quiet and productive and low swarmming. Our location is in Methoni Pierias near Thessaloniki (45 Km and Katerini = (25 Km). We will start our produce from the end of May. Euaghelos Karakassis ? "Jose Matas (Mallorca - Spain)" ?????? ??? = ?????? news:3e86d366@news.airtel.net... I would appreciate the addres, preferably e-mail for Greek queens = exporters, I am mean Greek since they are exporting rigth now. Thank you in advance Jose Matas ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2F85C.E17C61E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We are producer of Greek queens=20 (A.melifera,cecropia,chalkidiki). These quees are very quiet and = productive and=20 low swarmming.

Our location is in Methoni Pierias near = Thessaloniki (45 Km and Katerini (25 Km).

We will start our produce from the end = of=20 May.

Euaghelos Karakassis

Ο "Jose Matas (Mallorca - Spain)" <islapro@airtel.net> = έγραψε στο = μήνυμα=20 news:3e86d366@news.airtel.net.= ..

I would appreciate the addres, = preferably e-mail=20 for Greek queens exporters,

I am mean Greek since they are = exporting rigth=20 now.

Thank you in advance

Jose Matas

------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2F85C.E17C61E0-- Article 34211 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: tarheit@wcoil.com (Tim Arheit) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: 1 Apr 2003 17:02:58 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <7fe11997.0303311737.4af3f8eb@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.17.151.74 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.alt.net!wcoil.com!usenet Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34211 On 31 Mar 2003 17:37:31 -0800, kadney@turbotek.net (Ken) wrote: >My experience is that they also react to the hum of machinery. Mine >don't seem to mind the lawnmower but the weedwacker really gets 'em up >& about. They are also known to react to carbon dioxide which may explain it in part. -Tim Article 34212 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: tarheit@wcoil.com (Tim Arheit) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What to do about bears? Date: 1 Apr 2003 17:04:48 GMT Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> <3E88F50E.50003@pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.17.151.74 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!207.14.113.17!news.alt.net!wcoil.com!usenet Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34212 On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:44:29 -0600, "TRIKER" wrote: >This is an EXPLOSIVE method and will make a LOT of noise as well as possible >sending shards of sharp metal flying so don't try this in an urban backyard. > > >Get some starting fluid from the auto parts store, wrap a strip of fresh >bacon around can with a rubber band and place on top of hive. THIS WILL >ATTRACT BEARS they love bacon. But one bite into the can of started fluid >(ether) will set them running for new areas and they will stay away. > > This is an EXPLOSIVE method and will make a LOT of noise as well as >possible sending shards of sharp metal flying so don't try this in an urban >backyard. > I suspect such a trap would likely be illegal. -Tim Article 34213 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:13:27 -0600 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:09:06 -0600 From: Mutti Sabo <"tuttut"@accessus(kein-spam).net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Gift for new keeper? 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I am buying (with his knowledge and an experenced keepers assistance) my DH what he needs for two complete hives - except for bees. What obscure piece of equipment or item can you experinced keepers think of that I can start looking/saving for that you wish you had to start with? Thank You, Sharon -- ะฯเกฑแ Article 34214 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Herb Bee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: web site Lines: 7 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <91lia.248$J8.183@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:39:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.25.171.145 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyroc.rr.com 1049222341 24.25.171.145 (Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:39:01 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:39:01 EST Organization: Road Runner Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!cyclone.nyroc.rr.com!cyclone-out.nyroc.rr.com!twister.nyroc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34214 FWIW: Our web site has a new URL: www.mainebee.com regards, Herb/Norma Article 34215 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:28:39 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:28:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <9I2dnWDCY4P6dRSjXTWcpw@crcom.net> Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.129.93 X-Trace: sv3-UDK8UEFIXA+pVndYhLGDGaBsBiBsaVKMI9HaI0BcMCLyLRBWQHAxG8j+8OYVFEMmUiz+0WvyGv+MU2L!/k7PrDUXQp8JhttWMgrcgO7gaOtUDwGw1iSab4oXx52zau71nAn+LjVSTZh2um2btn+dbA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!208.49.253.98!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34215 As you can tell by the replies you've gotten, bees can be a bit grumpy for several reasons. Thought I'd give you a few more. If you were feeding them and suddenly stopped, or there was a good nectar flow and now it's over, then they will be a bit testy. If something is pestering them, like a skunk at night, they will be grumpy all day. Look for claw marks at the entrance. Woodpeckers will do this too. Certain fragrances will change their mood. I wouldn't wear any kind of fragrance around the bees, not even fabric softener. I know lemon scent is a no no. If you have horses or cattle and use fly wipe, there are certain brands that will drive bees NUTS. The bees will attack animals even if they are no where near the hive. Dark colors, especially fuzzy dark colors will sometimes provoke aggression. If a jacket or hat has been stung before, the bees can smell the venom and will often become aggressive. If you aren't kind to other beekeepers, they will carry you away and have you for lunch!!!!! :-) Have a good day. West Texas Mark Article 34216 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Don Bruder Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: Must be spring... Organization: Chaotic Creations Unlimited User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Lines: 90 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 20:18:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.149.227 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1049228331 209.204.149.227 (Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:18:51 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:18:51 PST Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!199.184.165.233!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!nnxp1.twtelecom.net!216.170.153.135.MISMATCH!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!66.181.128.6.MISMATCH!news.ticon.net!feed.news.sonic.net!typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34216 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1080 Seems it must be spring... After a worried winter, caused by the fact that at the last opening of my hive last fall, I saw *ZERO* evidence of a queen (not a single egg, larva, or any hint of capped brood *ANYWHERE* in the hive that I could see, and no visible queen anywhere, coupled with the fact that I was worried I'd mooshed her a couple of weeks before when I dropped a frame while pulling it), I opened the hive this past weekend for a full-blown "pull every frame" inspection because there seemed to be a unreasonably large number of bees coming and going. I was expecting to find a queenless colony that was on the slow downhill side to dying off. What I saw shocked the bejeebers outta me. Practically every cell on both sides of every frame was packed with brood in various stages of development from egg to capped, with the odd cell here and there stuffed with pollen, and a few rows of cells full of honey. The pattern is near-perfect - Whoever's laying the eggs is hitting practically every cell. Four frames, two on each end of the "stack", in each box (I'm running with a two-box brood chamber) remain essentially untouched, but I'm seeing signs that the girls are getting set to expand to them - one of them has about 40-50 cells that have clearly been started, but are only a few mm deep, and those cells have eggs stuck to the bottom - I'm assuming that they intend to build 'em up as the larvae grow Still no visual confirmation of a queen, but from what I've read, and what I'm seeing in the hive, it seems pretty obvious that it isn't a laying worker - The pattern is too perfect, there's a single, well-centered egg in each cell, and so on. Everything combines to tell me that I've got a queen in there actively doing her thing, even if she is playing "hard to spot". The various trees around us (mainly oaks and some pine) are flowering, and the willow-like thing in the back yard has popped its catkins, and had them swarmed by a carpet of happily humming bees picking up pollen. I'm thinking that if I want to keep this hive, I've got no option but to add a super, and PRONTO, before the population explosion of all that brood hatching out happens. No signs of swarm cells (yet... I'd bet it's only a matter of time if I leave things as-is) so I may have a day or three to play with, but... And pollen... Holy moley... I'm seeing bees coming back with wads of pollen stuck to their legs that are BIGGER THAN THEIR OWN HEADS! While I was in the hive, I saw at least 50 "dancers" doing their thing - If I've understood the literature right, and interpreted what I'm seeing correctly, something is flowing BIGTIME off to our southeast, but I'll be dipped if I can figure out what it is - there's nothing that I know about off that way besides trees and the lake. Perhaps some teeny tiny little flower that's especially bee-tasty, but my poor human eyes can't spot from here? Whatever it is, like I said, there were probably 50 "dancers" on the combs who were *VERY* energetic about trying to spread the word. On the down side, I'm seeing absolutely ZERO activity from the old oak branch that housed the colony which I strongly suspect threw this swarm last year. Nothing at all, no matter how long I watch. Not even stragglers. I suspect that one didn't make it through the winter. Bummer. All looks good inside my hive, though, with the exception of it getting set to become hugely overcrowded. No visible sign of mites, no nasty critters, and perhaps most important, no sickly brood. And the girls continue to be as gentle as a beginner like myself could possible ask for - Heck, I even managed to semi-squish a couple who got between my fingers and the ears of the frames, and the only protest was a moment of frantic buzzing until I repositioned my grip so they could get loose. When I did, they just scurried back onto the comb and carried on like nothing had happened. I was also able to watch with fascination as they decided the nearly invisible sweat droplets on my fingertips were seriously good stuff - I had a nearly full set of "bee gloves" on before I finished... hundreds of bees running around on my fingers and the backs of my hands, tounges out and "mopping" as they skittered around. Neat :) It was kind of a pain trying to get rid of them so I could close up the hive, but gentle prodding with a finger and a wisp of grass managed to brush everybody back into the hive after a few minutes of watching them. Wheeeee... the little buzzers made it thorugh the winter! Yay!!! -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net <--- Preferred Email - unmunged, SpamAssassinated Hate SPAM? See for some seriously great info. I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart Fly trap info pages: Article 34217 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: loggermike@shasta.com (Mike) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: What to do about bears? Date: 1 Apr 2003 19:50:40 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: <993fd181.0304011950.6aa42eb3@posting.google.com> References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> <3E88F50E.50003@pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.10.162.97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049255440 17663 127.0.0.1 (2 Apr 2003 03:50:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Apr 2003 03:50:40 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34217 One California beekeeper back in the '50s sat up in his beeyard several nights shooting marauding bears.After several nights without sleep,and the bears were still coming ,he had enough and went to town for dynamite.That night he ended the problem. Bears are still a big problem in Ca.My opinion:If the state wants to protect the bears,then they should be liable for the damage they do.Just seems common sense to me.(something that is totally absolutely lacking here in the state of fruits and nuts) Article 34218 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping software Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:55:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3e8ab386$0$52117$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.114 X-Trace: 1049277319 dread16.news.tele.dk 52117 195.249.242.114 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34218 Now also with date fix . Dates now shows according to regional settings. fields concerning supers, weight of honey, hivetype with more. http:/apimo.dk/registered_user/new_bidata.htm for updaed screen shoots home page = HTTP://apimo.dk e-mail apimo@apimo.dk Article 34219 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "mark mski" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <6HVga.8840$497.2025418920@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: What to do about bears? 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After reading these post, I decided my only hope was to install an electric fence. Before I installed the battery, I came in for dinner and my wife looked out and saw a huge black bear (at least 300 pounds). I ran out to scare it, but it was ignoring me. I was 50 feet from it, screaming and throwing rocks near it, but he paid no attention to me at all. He made some aggressive moves (getting on his hind legs as well as making a huffing sound. At these moments, I did indeed realize that he could outrun me, so I took a couple of steps back. This bear, was collared and tagged. I gave the DEP the tag number, and he said he could be a problem bear. (gee... you think?) He eventually walked away (after an hour) and I installed the battery. The next morning at 5:30 A.M. I saw him attempting to get in the hive, but he hit the fence and didn't like it. He eventually walked away. So I stand with one lost hive and two depleted hives. I win round one and we'll see what the future holds. thanks, mark Article 34220 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "davanture.serge" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: sans Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:51:19 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo, l'internet avec France Telecom Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mix-lyon-113-4-180.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Trace: news-reader11.wanadoo.fr 1049280711 5885 80.9.30.180 (2 Apr 2003 10:51:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Apr 2003 10:51:51 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!skynet.be!skynet.be!freenix!proxad.net!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34220 Je recherche une jante avec masse 5 boulons pour un tracteur enjambeur de marque JACQUET 26 type 630 dre 1967 "moteur 22" -dimensions pneu : 8-24 CR Merci Article 34221 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e8ab386$0$52117$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Beekeeping software Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:09:48 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3e8ae114$0$141$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.89 X-Trace: 1049288981 dread15.news.tele.dk 141 195.249.242.89 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34221 Fot those who have the software installed and need to test it further (expired software) download the http://apimo.dk/test/Bidata_langUP.zip 1.52 mb and the http://apimo.dk/programs/Cleanreg.exe about 500 kb The cleanreg.exe can also be used to remove registry entries if you deside not to use my software. First time run it will allow further 30 days full trial. "Jorn Johanesson" skrev i en meddelelse news:3e8ab386$0$52117$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk... > Now also with date fix . Dates now shows according to regional settings. > fields concerning supers, weight of honey, hivetype with more. > > http:/apimo.dk/registered_user/new_bidata.htm for updaed screen shoots > > home page = HTTP://apimo.dk > e-mail apimo@apimo.dk > > > Article 34222 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Bruce Yates Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:20:56 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <79sl8v4cumev7qfmi2ko1htb8g503a87di@4ax.com> References: <9I2dnWDCY4P6dRSjXTWcpw@crcom.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 43 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34222 That may explain it. I was wearing a dark blue t-shirt that day and once stung they came after me every time I went back in the yard that afternoon. Since my hive is only about 50 feet from my garden I will see if lighter colored clothing will help. Don't want to have to wear a veil every time I go in my yard. Thanks. On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:28:23 -0600, "me" wrote: >As you can tell by the replies you've gotten, bees can be a bit grumpy for >several reasons. Thought I'd give you a few more. > >If you were feeding them and suddenly stopped, or there was a good nectar >flow and now it's over, then they will be a bit testy. > >If something is pestering them, like a skunk at night, they will be grumpy >all day. Look for claw marks at the entrance. Woodpeckers will do this >too. > >Certain fragrances will change their mood. I wouldn't wear any kind of >fragrance around the bees, not even fabric softener. I know lemon scent is >a no no. > >If you have horses or cattle and use fly wipe, there are certain brands that >will drive bees NUTS. The bees will attack animals even if they are no >where near the hive. > >Dark colors, especially fuzzy dark colors will sometimes provoke aggression. > >If a jacket or hat has been stung before, the bees can smell the venom and >will often become aggressive. > >If you aren't kind to other beekeepers, they will carry you away and have >you for lunch!!!!! :-) > >Have a good day. >West Texas Mark Article 34223 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "vinel10" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20020925163609.24683.00005976@mb-mr.aol.com> <3D96746D.E6FCD3B6@atlas.localdomain> Subject: Re: Ground Bees Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:12:34 -0500 Lines: 25 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.90.92.61 Message-ID: <3e8b6114_6@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1049321748 63.90.92.61 (2 Apr 2003 16:15:48 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!local-out2.newsfeeds.com!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34223 best way to kill ground bees is go to KMART and get the wasp and hornet foam ( it will spray about 15 to 20 feet) spray it in the hole they wont come out they get stuck in the foam and die there "Louise Adderholdt" wrote in message news:3D96746D.E6FCD3B6@atlas.localdomain... > Leggassoc wrote: > > > > two other methods for getting rid of them. Most people around here prefer > > pouring gas or kerosene down the hole. Don't need to light it but lot of > > people enjoy toasting them. Will kill hte grass and note exactly safe. > > > > Reminds me of my daddy many years ago trying to get rid of a yellow > jacket's nest in our church graveyard. (Daddy did the mowing.) The > weather had been quite dry and the grass was brittle, though the usual > weeds needed mowing. When he lit the gasoline, the grass caught fire > and the tops of three or four graves were scorched before we could put > out the blaze. There were only the two of us to fight the fire, and the > fire went in every direction. He never set fire to one again! > > Louise -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34224 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "The Cloete Family" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey for sale Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:43:28 +0200 Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ctb53-02-p84.wc.saix.net X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1049366611 25388 155.239.150.84 (3 Apr 2003 10:43:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Apr 2003 10:43:31 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34224 I have 50kg of sugargum honey from the region of Stellenbosch, Cape Town South Africa for sale. The honey is rich is sugar. Mail me directly @ kluta@telkomsa.net Brendon. Article 34225 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 06:52:21 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9I2dnWDCY4P6dRSjXTWcpw@crcom.net> <79sl8v4cumev7qfmi2ko1htb8g503a87di@4ax.com> Subject: Re: why are bees so mad? Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 06:52:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <8Eidna5mIJUbsxGjXTWcqg@crcom.net> Lines: 70 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.41 X-Trace: sv3-ltDriFf7RdKcm/NMqs9wMfz0hr4MVMZdJ4htSE+/3UQo8PjbRW5IvY9PC0jI9VKsRVUIUI/JaptXIQ2!NborOkxYqZPWffNwHNhteXfGoMXq5PyLZ2LHj+0bCeMkV0QMrLpjbcbsVcM4HThVK/3Xpw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34225 I always pull on a veil when I go into the bee yard. No need for a suit or even to zip it up. It seems that there's always at least one bee that decides I shouldn't be there. However, it's rare that one will take exception to me if I'm more than 40 feet away. It's the guard bees at the hive entrance that are giving you problems. If possible, you can face the hive so they can't see you in the yard. It should help. If not, you can put a wall of some sort several feet in front of the hive to block their view - plywood wired or tied to a couple of T-Posts with a picture of a bee on the front sounds nice. Don't forget the other things I mentioned. Speaking of which way to face the hive, it's best, if you can, to face it toward the rising sun, and don't put it in the shade - a LITTLE is ok. Oh, just thought of another sting trigger. Bees tend to sting where there's a sharp contrast of light and dark colors. One example of this is your wrist at the edge of your watch band. Good Luck West Texas Mark "Bruce Yates" wrote in message news:79sl8v4cumev7qfmi2ko1htb8g503a87di@4ax.com... That may explain it. I was wearing a dark blue t-shirt that day and once stung they came after me every time I went back in the yard that afternoon. Since my hive is only about 50 feet from my garden I will see if lighter colored clothing will help. Don't want to have to wear a veil every time I go in my yard. Thanks. On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:28:23 -0600, "me" wrote: >As you can tell by the replies you've gotten, bees can be a bit grumpy for >several reasons. Thought I'd give you a few more. > >If you were feeding them and suddenly stopped, or there was a good nectar >flow and now it's over, then they will be a bit testy. > >If something is pestering them, like a skunk at night, they will be grumpy >all day. Look for claw marks at the entrance. Woodpeckers will do this >too. > >Certain fragrances will change their mood. I wouldn't wear any kind of >fragrance around the bees, not even fabric softener. I know lemon scent is >a no no. > >If you have horses or cattle and use fly wipe, there are certain brands that >will drive bees NUTS. The bees will attack animals even if they are no >where near the hive. > >Dark colors, especially fuzzy dark colors will sometimes provoke aggression. > >If a jacket or hat has been stung before, the bees can smell the venom and >will often become aggressive. > >If you aren't kind to other beekeepers, they will carry you away and have >you for lunch!!!!! :-) > >Have a good day. >West Texas Mark Article 34226 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: Re: Must be spring... Date: 3 Apr 2003 09:09:38 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0304030909.7b8557f2@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.29.173 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049389779 27248 127.0.0.1 (3 Apr 2003 17:09:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Apr 2003 17:09:39 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34226 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1083 > Wheeeee... the little buzzers made it thorugh the winter! Yay!!! Nothing like a strong hive to make a split from, if you have the queen from last year she is apt to swarm. If you had laying workers or an infertile queen you would see drone caps on worker cells. And the hive would usually sound differentwhen you opened it. Article 34227 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: carsimex@directvinternet.com (Andrey) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: queen and drone calendar Date: 3 Apr 2003 10:14:44 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.53.226.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049393684 29563 127.0.0.1 (3 Apr 2003 18:14:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Apr 2003 18:14:44 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34227 Hello, While ago I posted massage to review a queen calendar. Here is the thred:http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=cf7664b7.0211210758.6633e670%40posting.google.com&rnum=6&prev=/groups%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26q%3Dqueen%2Bcalendar One of the suggestions was to add drone calendar. Here you go, use it. If you think something incorrect or needs to be changed please let me know. Thanks, Andrey. Article 34228 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 18:45:54 -0600 From: Eric Deaver Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Varroa mite control Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 19:41:25 -0500 Message-ID: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 10 X-Trace: sv3-Hn1JR5M7hFXFWQ2lJ+wf/Kg96Ks1AICexZgZKu0SW8QyMAplUG7On0xaLUiF7ToE4o3Oa+Qdav244XK!tyXg5cYuYii7xsWf9w5xCKOC61lB37ffptcBGnBrQCZux2hJY53AHYWEK2dFOUW5krI4PQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34228 I am a new beekeeper. Actually, I am expecting nukes toward the end of April. In a recent class, we were told that a good way to control varroa mite is through the use of mineral oil applied to the top board of the top frames of the brood box. This is a 1/8 inch bead applied weekly. I am curious as to alternatives that do not include mite strips. What do you all do? Thanks in advance, Eric Article 34229 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Terry Newton" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Carolina's Lines: 4 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:25:26 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.219.38.115 X-Trace: sooner.brightok.net 1049426733 64.219.38.115 (Thu, 03 Apr 2003 21:25:33 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 21:25:33 CST Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp4.savvis.net!nwnews.wa.com!news-chi-2.sprintlink.net!news-central.sprintlink.net!news-in-central.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sooner.brightok.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34229 Looking for a source of Carnolina's bees. Terry Article 34230 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Bee And Wasp 'R' Us" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Australian Beekeepers Lines: 5 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:46:32 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.139.123.75 X-Trace: newsfeeds.bigpond.com 1049434516 144.139.123.75 (Fri, 04 Apr 2003 15:35:16 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 15:35:16 EST Organization: Telstra BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.com) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!208.49.253.98!newsfeed.news2me.com!ken-transit.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!newsfeeds.bigpond.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34230 I'd be interested to know if there was any Aussie Beekeepers on this newsgroup, as I'd like to ask a few questions about European honey bees in Aus. Article 34231 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: carsimex@directvinternet.com (Andrey) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: queen and drone calendar Date: 4 Apr 2003 07:25:25 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.53.226.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049469925 5897 127.0.0.1 (4 Apr 2003 15:25:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Apr 2003 15:25:25 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34231 carsimex@directvinternet.com (Andrey) wrote in message news:... > Hello, > While ago I posted massage to review a queen calendar. Here is the > thred:http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=cf7664b7.0211210758.6633e670%40posting.google.com&rnum=6&prev=/groups%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26q%3Dqueen%2Bcalendar > One of the suggestions was to add drone calendar. Here you go, use > it. If you think something incorrect or needs to be changed please > let me know. > > Thanks, Andrey. Here is a clean link: http://www.queencalendar.markfarm.com/ Article 34232 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Huston" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Carolina's Lines: 13 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.62.89.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc01 1049476594 24.62.89.183 (Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:16:34 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:16:34 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:16:34 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc01.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34232 "Terry Newton" wrote in message news:NW6ja.118$Z3.1778@sooner.brightok.net... > Looking for a source of Carnolina's bees. Carniolans? I get mine from Strachan's Apiaries in California, US. If you're in the US, I recommend them highly. Steve Huston Massachusetts, US Article 34233 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Salvatore Barbaro" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: info for sterilizing wax Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 21:51:26 +0200 Organization: Tiscali Spa Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-62-11-77-40.dialup.tiscali.it X-Trace: lacerta.tiscalinet.it 1049485626 13973 62.11.77.40 (4 Apr 2003 19:47:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@tiscali.it NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Apr 2003 19:47:06 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!frnkge1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!draco.tiscalinet.it!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34233 hi to all. would I like to try to make the waxen sheets in the house, who knows me to say as it is possible to sterilize the wax, particularly that temperature needs to use and for how long?. Thanks, Salvatore Article 34234 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: jrlong@vt.edu (Jerome R. Long) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Pollen Substitute Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 00:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp1.phys.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: solaris.cc.vt.edu 1049501832 20465 128.173.176.174 (5 Apr 2003 00:17:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@vt.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 00:17:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34234 Are there economical pollen substitutes that yield good results? How should one feed the pollen. Are there some good substitute recipes posted? Article 34235 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: jrlong@vt.edu (Jerome R. Long) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Frames of capped honey or sugar syrup choice. Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 00:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp1.phys.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: solaris.cc.vt.edu 1049502196 20465 128.173.176.174 (5 Apr 2003 00:23:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@vt.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 00:23:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34235 I have a great many frames full honey from hives that failed due to insufficient late summer brood production and varroa. I am going to acquire a couple nucs and want to get them off to a maximum start. Will they do better with buckets of sugar syrup or with my honey? I always assumed the honey would be best, but have heard opinions to the contrary. Do I also need to feed pollen or pollen substitute? If one goes the syrup route, how long and how much feeding before they can carry themselves? Article 34236 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Frames of capped honey or sugar syrup choice. Date: 5 Apr 2003 09:15:31 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 17 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0304050915.6dee43bc@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.14.11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049562932 20567 127.0.0.1 (5 Apr 2003 17:15:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Apr 2003 17:15:32 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34236 jrlong@vt.edu (Jerome R. Long) wrote in message news:... > I have a great many frames full honey from hives that failed due to > insufficient late summer brood production and varroa. > I am going to acquire a couple nucs and want to get them off to a maximum > start. Will they do better with buckets of sugar syrup or with my honey? > I always assumed the honey would be best, but have heard opinions to the > contrary. Do I also need to feed pollen or pollen substitute? If one goes > the syrup route, how long and how much feeding before they can carry > themselves? Honey in the frames is stored food and does not stimulate brood production. 1:1 sugar syrup fools the bees into acting like a nectar flow is on and makes the queen lay . As for pollen if the dandylions are blooming you should be fine. 25 lbs of sugar per hive would not be a bad guess Article 34237 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: For those interested! Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 00:15:17 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3e8f555a$0$10469$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.75 X-Trace: 1049580890 dread11.news.tele.dk 10469 195.249.242.75 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34237 New manual to Bidata! http://apimo.dk/programs/engmanus.zip 1.3 mb with palm section -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34238 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Frames of capped honey or sugar syrup choice. Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 23:19:24 +0100 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0304050915.6dee43bc@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.173.214 X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1049581189 13703 217.135.173.214 (5 Apr 2003 22:19:49 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Apr 2003 22:19:49 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsflash.concordia.ca!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34238 25lbs sounds like a lot of sugar for a nuc - I would usually feed no more than that to a full hive for the whole winter! (but my bees are thrifty) - would you not expect to find some of that sugar ending up in your supers? -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "Beecrofter" wrote in message news:23e8adb1.0304050915.6dee43bc@posting.google.com... > jrlong@vt.edu (Jerome R. Long) wrote in message news:... > > I have a great many frames full honey from hives that failed due to > > insufficient late summer brood production and varroa. > > I am going to acquire a couple nucs and want to get them off to a maximum > > start. Will they do better with buckets of sugar syrup or with my honey? > > I always assumed the honey would be best, but have heard opinions to the > > contrary. Do I also need to feed pollen or pollen substitute? If one goes > > the syrup route, how long and how much feeding before they can carry > > themselves? > > Honey in the frames is stored food and does not stimulate brood > production. > 1:1 sugar syrup fools the bees into acting like a nectar flow is on > and makes the queen lay . > As for pollen if the dandylions are blooming you should be fine. > > 25 lbs of sugar per hive would not be a bad guess Article 34239 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Steve Newport Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Worthing Beekeepers Website - UK Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 00:21:24 +0100 Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.87.198 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news7.svr.pol.co.uk 1049583836 14974 217.135.87.198 (5 Apr 2003 23:03:56 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Apr 2003 23:03:56 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34239 OK. Why? Others have given good feedback. Why do you think it is bad? On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:35:18 -0500, "BiG Orange" <@> wrote: >A definite nominee for Worst of the Web. >"Steve Newport" wrote in message >news:mgth7vcq08a7gfmqqn5832qnc147b87ohh@4ax.com... >> I have just published a website for the Worthing Beekeepers >> Association in West Sussex UK. >> www.worthingbeekeepers.fsnet.co.uk >> Please take a look and let me have some feedback. >> Thanks >> Steve Newport Article 34240 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Steve Newport Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Worthing Beekeepers Website - UK Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 00:29:31 +0100 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.87.198 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk 1049584322 6393 217.135.87.198 (5 Apr 2003 23:12:02 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Apr 2003 23:12:02 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!btnet-peer0!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34240 Ah. As it happens, forget about answering the question. I have just looked at your previous posts over the past year or so and you appear to be a complete arse. In fact you seem to contribute nothing of a constructive nature and have had nothing of valuie to say to anybody about anything. You seem to be a waste of space without a life whose only task is to insult people. From now on I won't respond to you. On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:35:18 -0500, "BiG Orange" <@> wrote: >A definite nominee for Worst of the Web. >"Steve Newport" wrote in message >news:mgth7vcq08a7gfmqqn5832qnc147b87ohh@4ax.com... >> I have just published a website for the Worthing Beekeepers >> Association in West Sussex UK. >> www.worthingbeekeepers.fsnet.co.uk >> Please take a look and let me have some feedback. >> Thanks >> Steve Newport Article 34241 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.220.142 From: "Beeguy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Lines: 17 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <2JKja.648616$Yo4.49746280@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 00:41:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1049589694 24.64.223.206 (Sat, 05 Apr 2003 17:41:34 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 17:41:34 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34241 Hi Eric this site might help you http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln "Eric Deaver" wrote in message news:40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com... > I am a new beekeeper. Actually, I am expecting nukes toward the end > of April. In a recent class, we were told that a good way to control > varroa mite is through the use of mineral oil applied to the top board > of the top frames of the brood box. This is a 1/8 inch bead applied > weekly. I am curious as to alternatives that do not include mite > strips. What do you all do? > > Thanks in advance, > > Eric Article 34242 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Worthing Beekeepers Website - UK Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 21:46:11 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 23 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34242 "Steve Newport" wrote in message news:kepu8vct9plhtijs13tndlduv2vd2v383v@4ax.com... > Ah. As it happens, forget about answering the question. > I have just looked at your previous posts over the past year or so and > you appear to be a complete arse. Steve, Lets be honest with ourselves. You have a good set of eyes I assume. It is unarguably noticeable that your web site is extremely lame, and amateurish and lacking any graphical presence. I thought you were wanting an honest opinion. That is one of the worst sites I've seen anyone actually ask for an opinion on. Why bother asking? You already know it sucks. Common. Thanks for taking the time to research the Big Orange! P.S. Ask a dumb question, get a dumb answer. Once again, your site is lame, don't quit your day job. Article 34243 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Gay Beekeeper Wanted Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 21:46:52 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 2 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34243 Article 34244 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Bonnie" From: "Bonnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Syrup Question Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 03:52:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.186.190.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ptd.net X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 1049601166 204.186.190.245 (Sat, 05 Apr 2003 22:52:46 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 22:52:46 EST Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!ptdnetT!newsgateT.ptd.net!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!3831230c!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34244 In reading up on setting up my hives ,it says something about using syrup. What are they talking about? I'm new at this so any input is appreciated! Dennis Article 34245 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "zoom" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping Auction May3rd Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 07:56:26 +0100 Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.78.15.1 X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1049611929 27342 81.78.15.1 (6 Apr 2003 06:52:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Apr 2003 06:52:09 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34245 Hi all and thanks for reading this. The Meon Valley Beekeeping Spring Beekeeping Auction will be held on 3rd May 2003 in the grounds of Greatham Village Hall, Near Petersfield, Hampshire, UK The auction commences at 1pm, viewing is from 11.30 THis one looks to be bigger and better than all previous events. For more information on this popular annual event, click (or copy and paste into your browser): www.mvbka.co.uk the follow the AUCTION link See you there.. 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Actually, I am expecting nukes toward the end >> of April. In a recent class, we were told that a good way to control >> varroa mite is through the use of mineral oil applied to the top board >> of the top frames of the brood box. This is a 1/8 inch bead applied >> weekly. I am curious as to alternatives that do not include mite >> strips. What do you all do? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Eric > > Yup; cured my mite problem. Killed 29 out of 30 hives! beekeep Article 34248 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Frames of capped honey or sugar syrup choice. Date: 6 Apr 2003 08:12:05 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 10 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0304060712.4dcf84@posting.google.com> References: <23e8adb1.0304050915.6dee43bc@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.15.220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049641926 25551 127.0.0.1 (6 Apr 2003 15:12:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Apr 2003 15:12:06 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34248 "Peter Edwards" wrote in message news:... > 25lbs sounds like a lot of sugar for a nuc - I would usually feed no more > than that to a full hive for the whole winter! (but my bees are thrifty) - > would you not expect to find some of that sugar ending up in your supers? > -- > Peter Edwards > beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk > > 25 lbs of sugar will bring a small nuc up to a very strong colony and draw 2 deeps of foundation. It might be excessive in the south. Article 34249 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Syrup Question Date: 6 Apr 2003 08:15:26 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0304060715.322dbc32@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.15.220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049642126 25648 127.0.0.1 (6 Apr 2003 15:15:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Apr 2003 15:15:26 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34249 "Bonnie" wrote in message news:... > In reading up on setting up my hives ,it says something about using syrup. > What are they talking about? I'm new at this so any input is appreciated! > > Dennis Syrup is artifical nectar. On the hobbyist scale it is 1 part sugar to 1 part water Article 34250 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bidata friends and other Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 17:42:14 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 37 Message-ID: <3e904b53$0$252$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.97 X-Trace: 1049643859 dread15.news.tele.dk 252 195.249.242.97 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34250 Due to a request from a Swedish beekeeper I have made a new compilation! Following fields have been added : Super Medium Shallow Hive type Mating yard queen Mating yard queen mother Mating yard queen grandmother if you download the new bidata then please Remember to uninstall the previous installed software and delete the [ProgramFilesFolder]\Apimo Biavl\Structures\Hivenote FiltersXXX.dbs to be sure everything works as expected. You should not remove the data files in c:\bidata unless you want to start from totally new. In future you can download updates as http://apimo.dk/test/Bidata_langUP.zip 1.5 mb but please be aware of tht this will not run on its own. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34251 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "James Avila" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Gay Beekeeper Wanted Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 21:18:33 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 3 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34251 What the hell is that about??? Article 34252 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Gay Beekeeper Wanted Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:09:26 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3e914e45.73082254@news1.radix.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip160.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34252 On Sun, 6 Apr 2003 21:18:33 -0700, "James Avila" wrote: >What the hell is that about??? > > Don't ask. beekeep Article 34253 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: beehunter50@yahoo.com (Ray Morgan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Date: 7 Apr 2003 03:17:10 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 28 Message-ID: <504d7af0.0304070217.5f866d5e@posting.google.com> References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> <2JKja.648616$Yo4.49746280@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> <3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.35.181.104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049710630 29661 127.0.0.1 (7 Apr 2003 10:17:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Apr 2003 10:17:10 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34253 honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) wrote in message news:<3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net>... > On Sun, 06 Apr 2003 00:41:34 GMT, "Beeguy" > wrote: > > >Hi Eric this site might help you http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln > > > > > >"Eric Deaver" wrote in message > >news:40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com... > >> I am a new beekeeper. Actually, I am expecting nukes toward the end > >> of April. In a recent class, we were told that a good way to control > >> varroa mite is through the use of mineral oil applied to the top board > >> of the top frames of the brood box. This is a 1/8 inch bead applied > >> weekly. I am curious as to alternatives that do not include mite > >> strips. What do you all do? > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> Eric > > > > > Yup; cured my mite problem. Killed 29 out of 30 hives! > > beekeep Last year you tried Oxalic acid. Did that help? Ray Article 34254 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: swarmcatcher@hotmail.com (Barry Richards) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bee Truck Crash Kills One; Releases Swarms In Brevard Date: 7 Apr 2003 11:49:00 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 18 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.199.17.186 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049741340 15979 127.0.0.1 (7 Apr 2003 18:49:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Apr 2003 18:49:00 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34254 From WKMG, Titusville, Florida TITUSVILLE, Fla. -- A truck carrying bees overturned on Interstate 95 Monday, killing the driver and releasing thousands of bees in Brevard County, according to Local 6 News. Officials said that the truck somehow lost control and rolled onto its side just north of County Road 407. The driver reportedly died at the scene, but swarms of bees have made recovery of the body Complete story at: http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/news-209539620030407-120447.html __________________________________________ Beekeeping in the News at www.hivetool.com Article 34255 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Gay Beekeeper Wanted Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:07:16 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34255 "James Avila" wrote in message news:v91vp496cv6903@corp.supernews.com... > What the hell is that about??? > Made ya look. Article 34256 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 22:34:14 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3e91fcca.117756018@news1.radix.net> References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> <2JKja.648616$Yo4.49746280@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> <3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net> <504d7af0.0304070217.5f866d5e@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip172.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34256 On 7 Apr 2003 03:17:10 -0700, beehunter50@yahoo.com (Ray Morgan) wrote: >honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) wrote in message news:<3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net>... >> On Sun, 06 Apr 2003 00:41:34 GMT, "Beeguy" >> wrote: >> >> >Hi Eric this site might help you http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln >> > >> > >> >"Eric Deaver" wrote in message >> >news:40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com... >> >> I am a new beekeeper. Actually, I am expecting nukes toward the end >> >> of April. In a recent class, we were told that a good way to control >> >> varroa mite is through the use of mineral oil applied to the top board >> >> of the top frames of the brood box. This is a 1/8 inch bead applied >> >> weekly. I am curious as to alternatives that do not include mite >> >> strips. What do you all do? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >> Eric >> > >> > >> Yup; cured my mite problem. Killed 29 out of 30 hives! >> >> beekeep > > Last year you tried Oxalic acid. Did that help? > >Ray That's what I was refering to. beekeep Article 34257 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.220.142 From: "Beeguy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> <2JKja.648616$Yo4.49746280@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> <3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net> <504d7af0.0304070217.5f866d5e@posting.google.com> <3e91fcca.117756018@news1.radix.net> Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Lines: 50 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 00:14:35 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news3.calgary.shaw.ca 1049760875 24.64.223.206 (Mon, 07 Apr 2003 18:14:35 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 18:14:35 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news3.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34257 I'm sure you NEVER controlled the sticky boards after each treatment! I lost 0 out of 19 hives! beekeeper "beekeep" wrote in message news:3e91fcca.117756018@news1.radix.net... > On 7 Apr 2003 03:17:10 -0700, beehunter50@yahoo.com (Ray Morgan) > wrote: > > >honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) wrote in message news:<3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net>... > >> On Sun, 06 Apr 2003 00:41:34 GMT, "Beeguy" > >> wrote: > >> > >> >Hi Eric this site might help you http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln > >> > > >> > > >> >"Eric Deaver" wrote in message > >> >news:40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com... > >> >> I am a new beekeeper. Actually, I am expecting nukes toward the end > >> >> of April. In a recent class, we were told that a good way to control > >> >> varroa mite is through the use of mineral oil applied to the top board > >> >> of the top frames of the brood box. This is a 1/8 inch bead applied > >> >> weekly. I am curious as to alternatives that do not include mite > >> >> strips. What do you all do? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks in advance, > >> >> > >> >> Eric > >> > > >> > > >> Yup; cured my mite problem. Killed 29 out of 30 hives! > >> > >> beekeep > > > > Last year you tried Oxalic acid. Did that help? > > > >Ray > > That's what I was refering to. > > beekeep > Article 34258 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "David Eyre" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Gay Beekeeper Wanted Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 20:34:43 -0400 Organization: The Bee Works Message-ID: Reply-To: "David Eyre" References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 13 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34258 You were told not to look. This guy just wants to be an AH. "BiG Orange" <@> wrote in message news:v93ps42cvhj876@corp.supernews.com... > "James Avila" wrote in message > news:v91vp496cv6903@corp.supernews.com... > > What the hell is that about??? > > > > Made ya look. > > Article 34259 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kadney@turbotek.net (Ken) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Syrup Question Date: 7 Apr 2003 18:22:14 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 5 Message-ID: <7fe11997.0304071722.933c92d@posting.google.com> References: <23e8adb1.0304060715.322dbc32@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.3.21.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1049764935 30030 127.0.0.1 (8 Apr 2003 01:22:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Apr 2003 01:22:15 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34259 Just as a followup, giving the bees syrup in the spring makes sure they have enough food until the flowers bloom & it stimulates the queen to lay more (hey, we got food, we need babies!) so you have a full hive when the major blooms are on. You can't give 'em too much syrup, if they've had enough, they'll stop taking it. Article 34260 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Gay Beekeeper Wanted Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 23:40:07 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.uncensored-news.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34260 "David Eyre" wrote in message news:v94676sr9e2713@corp.supernews.com... > You were told not to look. This guy just wants to be an AH. Made you look too!!!! Article 34261 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "้ำิฯอษฮ" Newsgroups: nikolaev.commerce.agriculture,odessa.commerce.agro,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratites Subject: ๐าฯฤมฤษอ ๐ฯฤ�ษยฮษหษ ื แำำฯาิษอลฮิล ฤล�ลวฯ. Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:52:23 +0400 Organization: user from ELVISTI Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: acc7-137.dialup.elvisti.kiev.ua X-Trace: app0.visti.net 1049792224 50753 195.64.233.137 (8 Apr 2003 08:57:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@app0.visti.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Apr 2003 08:57:04 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!news.esico.net!carrier.kiev.ua!info.elvisti.kiev.ua!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu odessa.commerce.agro:5968 sci.agriculture:72663 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34261 sci.agriculture.fruit:4464 sci.agriculture.poultry:43578 sci.agriculture.ratites:1862 ๐าฯฤมลอ ะฯฤ�ษยฮษหษ ื มำำฯาิษอลฮิล, มืิฯิามหิฯาฮูล ฺมะ�มำิษ . ๋ ิามหิฯามอ ๔-16,๔-25,๔-40,ํ๔๚,เํ๚,๋-700,๔-150,ไ๔-75,๚้์,๋แํแ๚,ํแ๚ ๔๋๒, ็้ไ๒๏๒แ๓๐๒ๅไๅ์้๔ๅ์้, ๋๏ํ๐๒ๅ๓๏๒แ, ็๕๒๙, ๔๎๗ไ, ๒๗ไ, ๒ๅ๚้๎๏๔ๅ่๎้�ๅ๓๋้ๅ ้๚ไๅ์้๑. 8(044) 2496903,2496005 ๆแ๋๓ avantag@visti.com Article 34262 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 10:05:26 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3e929e98.159174578@news1.radix.net> References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> <2JKja.648616$Yo4.49746280@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> <3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net> <504d7af0.0304070217.5f866d5e@posting.google.com> <3e91fcca.117756018@news1.radix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip180.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34262 On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 00:14:35 GMT, "Beeguy" wrote: >I'm sure you NEVER controlled the sticky boards after each treatment! >I lost 0 out of 19 hives! > >beekeeper > Controlled the sticky boards? Article 34263 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: marcus@myrealbox.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: 1-800-Flowers Adfunk Internet Solutions Article Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 13:58:51 +0100 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5sh59vcidj8vjlo84uhsvk8kqo01rulu5v@4ax.com> References: <62584a43.0304060033.57905295@posting.google.com> Reply-To: marcus@myrealbox.com NNTP-Posting-Host: fra-tgn-oyg-vty11.as.wcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ngspool-d02.news.aol.com 1049806734 20709 212.211.86.11 (8 Apr 2003 12:58:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:58:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!64.12.151.231!ngpeer.news.aol.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34263 >X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Spam reported Article 34264 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Robert Jones Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beautiful Custom Hives Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:20:56 -0500 Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services, LLC Lines: 4 Message-ID: <01HW.BAB8C38800142344149228A0@news.wilkes.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.144.216.170 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news3.infoave.net 1049840402 384995 207.144.216.170 (8 Apr 2003 22:20:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@infoave.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:20:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Hogwasher/2.5 (Macintosh) Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.infoave.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34264 To see a nice custom hive go to: www.geocities.com/pumawoodworks For a great supplier, go to: www.millerbeesupply.com High quality woodenware and great folks. 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Article 34266 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 19:06:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:06:21 +1200 From: Peter Kerr Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <090420031206219221%user@host.domain> References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> <2JKja.648616$Yo4.49746280@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> <3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net> <504d7af0.0304070217.5f866d5e@posting.google.com> <3e91fcca.117756018@news1.radix.net> <3e929e98.159174578@news1.radix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: YA-NewsWatcher/5.0.1 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p.kerr.mus.auckland.ac.nz X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: scream.auckland.ac.nz X-Original-Trace: 9 Apr 2003 12:06:25 +1200, scream.auckland.ac.nz Organization: CLEAR Net New Zealand http://www.clear.net.nz - Complaints abuse@clear.net.nz Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.97.37.6 X-Trace: sv3-lPa6QJ82xLW135R50AicG2cjIzzHcT+EJgO1XOYdnwNNCgLZWLgo4YWXaBIyE+lAs0Qz/PyWXiiU/AO!RHP1J/zkovYOE+u3OagGhWmVL6EsL+bwWm1sibXS28QLzRDqLa3g9vmjr9XJ5fv9EpATmTFc9w== X-Complaints-To: Complaints to abuse@clear.net.nz X-DMCA-Complaints-To: Complaints to abuse@clear.net.nz X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!4.24.21.153!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!cambridge1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!bos-service1.ext.raytheon.com!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.clear.net.nz!news.clear.net.nz.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34266 > >I'm sure you NEVER controlled the sticky boards after each treatment! > >I lost 0 out of 19 hives! > > > >beekeeper > > > Controlled the sticky boards? Did he post from .ca? French: controller - v. to check, inspect Article 34267 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 10:27:51 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 40 Message-ID: <3e93f260.1742176@news1.radix.net> References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> <2JKja.648616$Yo4.49746280@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> <3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net> <504d7af0.0304070217.5f866d5e@posting.google.com> <3e91fcca.117756018@news1.radix.net> <3e929e98.159174578@news1.radix.net> <090420031206219221%user@host.domain> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip145.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34267 On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:06:21 +1200, Peter Kerr wrote: >> >I'm sure you NEVER controlled the sticky boards after each treatment! >> >I lost 0 out of 19 hives! >> > >> >beekeeper >> > >> Controlled the sticky boards? > >Did he post from .ca? > >French: controller - v. to check, inspect A couple of things come to mind with using sticky boards with a mite treatment. 1. They only show knockdown power not killing power of the treatment. The actual death of the mite may come from the mite sticking to the board and dehydrating. Thus the treatment may not have done the job but rather the combination of the two did. 2. If every hive has to have a sticky board used then the treatment looses it's cost effectiveness. There are treatments available that are cheaper than the sticky board alone. Also in a commercial situation the labor has to be added as well. I personally monitored some of the treated hives with the ether roll method. I saw the mite counts drop some only to rise again. Three oxalic treatments were used two weeks apart in early winter while the bees were clustered with very little to no brood. The lowest mite count that I saw was about 2 mites perr 100 bees. While I understand that this was a bad winter due to the previous drout that we had, my other apiaries faired much better in comparison. A fall treatment of checkmite was used on those hives. beekeep Article 34268 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 17:49:29 -0500 Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:49:17 +1200 From: Peter Kerr Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <100420031049174833%user@host.domain> References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> <2JKja.648616$Yo4.49746280@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> <3e902cf9.1519092@news1.radix.net> <504d7af0.0304070217.5f866d5e@posting.google.com> <3e91fcca.117756018@news1.radix.net> <3e929e98.159174578@news1.radix.net> <090420031206219221%user@host.domain> <3e93f260.1742176@news1.radix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: YA-NewsWatcher/5.0.1 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p.kerr.mus.auckland.ac.nz X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: scream.auckland.ac.nz X-Original-Trace: 10 Apr 2003 10:49:21 +1200, scream.auckland.ac.nz Organization: CLEAR Net New Zealand http://www.clear.net.nz - Complaints abuse@clear.net.nz Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.97.37.6 X-Trace: sv3-tHDCR6Hp76nxHtwGiI2FeMkAtiLR3+KO29u+f8mAyYU2Tuu52UzR4qVS0vcX7a9JcmqWxr6FX+moTGR!771exBHVQi1BcR97kwrvUIjVYQegg4CFEloD4hDA0gAjZIULeNUfzyxf8ojwJkG+IyK/Z8kc8A== X-Complaints-To: Complaints to abuse@clear.net.nz X-DMCA-Complaints-To: Complaints to abuse@clear.net.nz X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.clear.net.nz!news.clear.net.nz.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34268 beekeep wrote: > > A couple of things come to mind with using sticky boards with a mite > treatment. > > 1. They only show knockdown power not killing power of the treatment. > The actual death of the mite may come from the mite sticking to the > board and dehydrating. Thus the treatment may not have done the job > but rather the combination of the two did. > > 2. If every hive has to have a sticky board used then the treatment > looses it's cost effectiveness. [snip] I thought the sticky boards were just an inspection (control in French) use it before to see if treatment is needed, use it after to confirm (or not :-( treatment worked With 10 or more hives at an apiary only one in four needs checking, but all should be treated if needed. pk Article 34269 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Truck Crash Kills One; Releases Swarms In Brevard Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 23:10:40 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34269 > Monday, killing the driver and releasing thousands of bees in Brevard 80 million bees, not thousands.> TITUSVILLE, Fla. -- A truck carrying bees overturned on Interstate 95 Article 34270 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Auction Sale From: Nick Organization: busy@removeblueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/05.08.12 Lines: 4 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:25:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.31.190.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@blueyonder.co.uk X-Trace: news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk 1050092704 62.31.190.59 (Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:25:04 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:25:04 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!teaser.fr!freenix!deine.net!amsnews01.chello.com!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34270 Only a week to go before Saturday 19 April and Worcestershire Beekeepers (Hagley & Stourbridge Branch) hold their auction of beekeeping equipment at Blakedown Parish Rooms. Staging from 8.30 am viewing from 9.00 am auction commences promptly at midday. Details at www.busy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk Article 34272 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "allen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Syrup Question Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:25:32 -0600 Organization: honeybeeworld point com Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: "allen" NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-184-38.calgary.primus.ca (209.90.184.38) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1050236734 13420583 209.90.184.38 (16 [58605]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-184-38.calgary.primus.CA!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34272 > In reading up on setting up my hives ,it says something about using > syrup. What are they talking about? I'm new at this so any input is > appreciated! There is extensive discussion on this topic recently on BEE-L. Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for BEE-L info, if you are interested. BEE-L has an extensive searchable archive running back well over a decade, covering debates on just about any topic. allen www.honeybeeworld.com/diary/ Recent: Poor man's bee gloves, retirement from beekeeping -NOT?, Styrofoam hives and more... Article 34273 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Salvatore Barbaro" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa mite control Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 13:00:23 +0200 Organization: Tiscali Spa Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-62-11-74-141.dialup.tiscali.it X-Trace: lacerta.tiscalinet.it 1050257392 28149 62.11.74.141 (13 Apr 2003 18:09:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@tiscali.it NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Apr 2003 18:09:52 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news.mailgate.org!draco.tiscalinet.it!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34273 Hi to everybody The alternative treatments against the varroa, that I use: In spring, when the families of bees are in resumption, food with syrup of sugar 1:1, to which I add 200 mgs of timolo + 20 mgs of menthol in crystals, loose with 2 ccs of etanolo (alcohol for liqueurs). At the end of the crop, in the month of June, draws every beehive with 8 grs of loose timolo in 8 ccs of alcohol, the all done to absorb in two rectangles of - oasis - (the florists' sponge) of 6 cms x 4 cms x 0.5 cms, set to the sides of the brood, the all must be repeated for 3 times to distance of 8 days. And a lot of main point that the deep antivarroa is positioned anointed with oil of vaselina, the fallen varroes because of the timolo don't die but I are alone you stun, and they stay you stick to the greasy fund of oil. In autumn when the families of bees have not brooded anymore, I treat with sour ossalico loosened in water and sugar (Swiss method). The use of oil of vaselina put on the looms of the honeycombs and effectiveness to 25% on the total one of the varroes and you/he/she can be used in intermediary periods to the principal treatments. Ciao "Eric Deaver" ha scritto nel messaggio news:40lp8vgln3pahb4j4712p87sct427dbvfn@4ax.com... > I am a new beekeeper. Actually, I am expecting nukes toward the end > of April. In a recent class, we were told that a good way to control > varroa mite is through the use of mineral oil applied to the top board > of the top frames of the brood box. This is a 1/8 inch bead applied > weekly. I am curious as to alternatives that do not include mite > strips. What do you all do? > > Thanks in advance, > > Eric Article 34274 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Auction Sale From: Nick Organization: busy@removeblueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/05.08.12 Lines: 4 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:06:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.31.190.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@blueyonder.co.uk X-Trace: news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk 1050271566 62.31.190.59 (Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:06:06 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:06:06 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34274 Only a week to go before Saturday 19 April and Worcestershire Beekeepers (Hagley & Stourbridge Branch) hold their auction of beekeeping equipment at Blakedown Parish Rooms. Staging from 8.30 am viewing from 9.00 am auction commences promptly at midday. Details at www.busy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk Article 34275 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Marty Niederkorn" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Skunks Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:48:54 -0400 Lines: 11 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 NNTP-Posting-Host: corp-news Message-ID: <3e9a0239_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com> X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to You may also use our online abuse reporting from: http://www.newsfeeds.com/abuseform.htm X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local-out2.newsfeeds.com!corp-news.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34275 We have been plaqued with skunks. Of the things we currently do -chichen wire fence -nail boards in front of hive -live trap and they still eat the bees. In a warm spell this winter they walked over the fence sat on the snow and scratched the insulation off the top. The colony died. Lack of bees... How can we control skunks??? Marty Article 34276 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "้ำิฯอษฮ" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratites Subject: ๐าฯฤลอ ะฯฤ�ษยฮษหษ ื มำำฯาิษอลฮิล Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:34:32 +0400 Organization: user from ELVISTI Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: acc7-202.dialup.elvisti.kiev.ua X-Trace: app0.visti.net 1050305567 90160 195.64.228.202 (14 Apr 2003 07:32:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@app0.visti.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Apr 2003 07:32:47 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!image.surnet.ru!carrier.kiev.ua!info.elvisti.kiev.ua!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture:72736 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34276 sci.agriculture.fruit:4467 sci.agriculture.poultry:43653 sci.agriculture.ratites:1864 ๏าวมฮษฺมรษั าลมฬษฺีลิ ๐ฯฤ�ษยฮษหษ ื มำำฯาิษอลฮิล, ฺมะมำฮูล �มำิษ ห มืิฯิามหิฯาฮฯส ิลศฮษหล ษ ำลฬุศฯฺอม�ษฮมอ. ็ษฤาฯามำะาลฤลฬษิลฬษ,๔ีายฯหฯอะาลำฯาม, ็ษฤาฯรษฬษฮฤาู, ๒๗ไ, ็ีาู, ๐ฯา�ฮลืมั ็าีะะม., ๒ลฺษฮฯิลศฮษ�ลำหษล ฺ้ฤลฬษั ยฯฬลล 1000 ฮมษอ. ว.๋ษลื. 8(044)249-69-05,249-69-03 avantag@visti.com Article 34277 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.136.68 Message-ID: <3E9AB437.5AA5EBA0@honeyroad.com> From: workerbee@honeyroad.com Organization: http://www.honeyroad.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Candle making/Insurance Coverage References: <3E9A68AE.22589.14C6E266@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:14:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.66.94.143 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news3.calgary.shaw.ca 1050326045 24.66.94.143 (Mon, 14 Apr 2003 07:14:05 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 07:14:05 MDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news3.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34277 Hello all, I was wondering if anyone of you have found an alternative for the candle making part of your business. It was brought to our attention that the goup liability insurnace we have through the Ontario Beekeepers Association only cover products from the hive. Because we "modify" the wax into candles, they are not covered under it. I have contacted several insurance companies, and they either laugh at the tought of such insuarance or give me an outrageous price? Has any one found a cost effective alternative? Or more importantly, did you realise you might not be covered incase of an avccident happening with candles, read the fine print in your insurance policy? It seem a shame I'll have to give up making candles from my beeswax, all because I cant get affordable insurance. Allen Banks Honey Road Apiaries Article 34278 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: new package trying to swarm? Date: 14 Apr 2003 07:08:16 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 20 Message-ID: <7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.26.122.13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050329296 23531 127.0.0.1 (14 Apr 2003 14:08:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Apr 2003 14:08:16 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34278 I just installed a new package saturday to replace my winter-killed hives. The Hive I am using has drawn comb and honey in it, and has had all of the winter kill cleaned out. I do have a entrance reducer in place. I am in South Central Ohio. I installed the package and caged queen on Saturday, and after a few hours, most of the bees from the package were on a nearby post - I sprayed them with sugar water, brushed them into a box and replaced them into the hive. On Sunday, a much smaller number were swarmed on the ground - I did the same thing - sprayed with sugar water, and bushed as many as I could into a box and replaced them in the hive. Any suggestions on what may be causing this and how to prevent it? (could this be caused by a queen accidentaly getting placed in the package with the loose bees?) Duane Rezac drezac@greenapple.com Article 34279 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: swarmcatcher@hotmail.com (Barry Richards) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Truck Crash Kills One; Releases Swarms In Brevard Date: 14 Apr 2003 08:54:05 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.32.193.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050335645 6527 127.0.0.1 (14 Apr 2003 15:54:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Apr 2003 15:54:05 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34279 WKMG Story Originally Posted: 1:52 p.m. EDT April 7, 2003 Hivetool.com News Post: 2:49 p.m. EDT April 7, 2003 WKMG Story Updated: 5:47 a.m. EDT April 8, 2003 BiG Orange News Post: 1:06 a.m. EDT April 9, 2003 Sometimes stories are edited by the TV station after they are put on the Hivetool.com list. "BiG Orange" <@> wrote in message news:... > > Monday, killing the driver and releasing thousands of bees in Brevard > > > 80 million bees, not thousands.> TITUSVILLE, Fla. -- A truck carrying bees > overturned on Interstate 95 Article 34280 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: beehunter50@yahoo.com (Ray Morgan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Skunks Date: 14 Apr 2003 12:34:43 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 17 Message-ID: <504d7af0.0304141134.7865338c@posting.google.com> References: <3e9a0239_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.35.181.95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050348884 345 127.0.0.1 (14 Apr 2003 19:34:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Apr 2003 19:34:44 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34280 "Marty Niederkorn" wrote in message news:<3e9a0239_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com>... > We have been plaqued with skunks. Of the things we currently do > -chichen wire fence > -nail boards in front of hive > -live trap > and they still eat the bees. In a warm spell this winter they walked over > the fence sat on the snow and scratched the insulation off the top. The > colony died. Lack of bees... > How can we control skunks??? > Marty I already know most do not like my approach to these type of problems. But skunks like bears will not leave your bees alone. They like the easy meal. I leg trap the little critters and kill em!! works every time. Ray Article 34281 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: nucskep@yahoo.com (Nuc Skep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new package trying to swarm? Date: 14 Apr 2003 17:48:33 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 28 Message-ID: <9936fa52.0304141237.5b9ba710@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.127.103.174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050367714 15015 127.0.0.1 (15 Apr 2003 00:48:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Apr 2003 00:48:34 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34281 My first thought was as your's, another queen was in the package. If you have spare equipment, ideally a nuc box, put your small cluster in there and check on them after awhile. If you've got a virgin queen, it will be at least a week before you will see any eggs. Nuc. drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) wrote in message news:<7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com>... > I just installed a new package saturday to replace my winter-killed > hives. The Hive I am using has drawn comb and honey in it, and has > had all of the winter kill cleaned out. I do have a entrance reducer > in place. I am in South Central Ohio. > > I installed the package and caged queen on Saturday, and after a few > hours, most of the bees from the package were on a nearby post - I > sprayed them with sugar water, brushed them into a box and replaced > them into the hive. > > On Sunday, a much smaller number were swarmed on the ground - I did > the same thing - sprayed with sugar water, and bushed as many as I > could into a box and replaced them in the hive. > > Any suggestions on what may be causing this and how to prevent it? > (could this be caused by a queen accidentaly getting placed in the > package with the loose bees?) > > Duane Rezac > drezac@greenapple.com Article 34282 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new package trying to swarm? Date: 14 Apr 2003 18:33:21 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 7 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0304141733.6c355b8c@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.30.155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050370402 26198 127.0.0.1 (15 Apr 2003 01:33:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Apr 2003 01:33:22 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34282 > Any suggestions on what may be causing this and how to prevent it? > (could this be caused by a queen accidentaly getting placed in the > package with the loose bees?) > > Duane Rezac Sounds like the shook bees might have had a queen in them. mated or not. Article 34283 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Truck Crash Kills One; Releases Swarms In Brevard Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:50:56 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34283 "Barry Richards" wrote in message news:a794407.0304140754.780fcc6b@posting.google.com... > Sometimes stories are edited by the TV station after they are put on. That's why I posted the revision honey. DUH! Article 34284 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "allen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new package trying to swarm? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:08:32 -0600 Organization: honeybeeworld point com Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com> Reply-To: "allen" NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-184-88.calgary.primus.ca (209.90.184.88) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1050390514 651113 209.90.184.88 (16 [58605]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-184-88.calgary.primus.CA!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34284 > I installed the package and caged queen on Saturday, and after a few > hours, most of the bees from the package were on a nearby post... Sounds as if you installed in the middle of a hot day or your hive is somehow repulsive to the bees. Bees installed in the middle of a hot day may leave, and if there is something in the brood box that they do not like (disinfectant, essential oils, etc.) they may also decide to leave. If there is no queen, their behaviour may also be odd. I don't know why the small number 'swarmed' onto the ground. Packages should be installed at dusk for best results. They may also be kept for a day or two in a totally dark place (not even a crack of light) to settle down. As always, the best answer is get a local beekeeper friend to look at them. Diagnosis over the internet can miss obvious (but unstated) things that a beekeeper on the scene should spot instantly. allen http://www.honeybeeworld.com Article 34285 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new package trying to swarm? Date: 15 Apr 2003 04:57:57 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 35 Message-ID: <7ec141c5.0304150357.53eee829@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com> <9936fa52.0304141237.5b9ba710@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.26.122.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050407877 13167 127.0.0.1 (15 Apr 2003 11:57:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Apr 2003 11:57:57 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34285 nucskep@yahoo.com (Nuc Skep) wrote in message news:<9936fa52.0304141237.5b9ba710@posting.google.com>... > My first thought was as your's, another queen was in the package. If > you have spare equipment, ideally a nuc box, put your small cluster in > there and check on them after awhile. If you've got a virgin queen, > it will be at least a week before you will see any eggs. > > Nuc. > > drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) wrote in message news:<7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com>... > > I just installed a new package saturday to replace my winter-killed > > hives. The Hive I am using has drawn comb and honey in it, and has > > had all of the winter kill cleaned out. I do have a entrance reducer > > in place. I am in South Central Ohio. > > > > I installed the package and caged queen on Saturday, and after a few > > hours, most of the bees from the package were on a nearby post - I > > sprayed them with sugar water, brushed them into a box and replaced > > them into the hive. > > > > On Sunday, a much smaller number were swarmed on the ground - I did > > the same thing - sprayed with sugar water, and bushed as many as I > > could into a box and replaced them in the hive. > > > > Any suggestions on what may be causing this and how to prevent it? > > (could this be caused by a queen accidentaly getting placed in the > > package with the loose bees?) > > > > Duane Rezac > > drezac@greenapple.com I did not think of that - If I still have a small swarm outside tonight, I'll put them in one of the other hives (I lost all 3 of my hive - I placed the package in the one that had the most honey stores left in it - the other two are sealed up) Thanks. Article 34286 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Truck Crash Kills One; Releases Swarms In Brevard Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:14:38 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <1050408915.618535@savina> References: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 13 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34286 "80 Million Bees Released In Fatal I-95 Crash"...actually, if you do the math the number of bees is off by a factor of 10: recall that one of the various press releases reported 165 hives overturned, a reasonable load for a flatbed bee truck which concurs as well with estimate that "The cargo was worth about $10,000." ...calculating conservatively, 200 hives x 40,000 bees/hive = 8,000,000 bees, suggesting some unmitigated hyperbole common to bee stories which tend to be sensationalized in the media and propagate unchecked. Article 34287 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: cs11ce@surrey.ac.uk (Chris Evans) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bee Feeding Date: 15 Apr 2003 05:41:30 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: <9224aad8.0304150441.2ef6542@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.148.41.59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050410491 15358 127.0.0.1 (15 Apr 2003 12:41:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Apr 2003 12:41:31 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34287 Hi, We area group of university students who are creating a population model of a bee hive. We are having trouble getting any real figures for food production and consumption for individual bees. If you could give us any figures you are aware of, or point us in the right direction on the web, we would be very grateful. Chris Evans Article 34288 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: swarmcatcher@hotmail.com (Barry Richards) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Truck Crash Kills One; Releases Swarms In Brevard Date: 15 Apr 2003 13:09:47 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <1050408915.618535@savina> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.199.17.186 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050437387 16463 127.0.0.1 (15 Apr 2003 20:09:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Apr 2003 20:09:47 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34288 In the online video clip the reporter is making a big deal of dangerous situation while showing veiled beekeepers walking around in short-sleeve shirts. -br "Teri Bachus" wrote in message news:<1050408915.618535@savina>... > "80 Million Bees Released In Fatal I-95 Crash"...actually, if you do the > math the number of bees is off by a factor of 10: > recall that one of the various press releases reported 165 hives overturned, > a reasonable load for a flatbed bee truck which concurs as well with > estimate that "The cargo was worth about $10,000." > ...calculating conservatively, 200 hives x 40,000 bees/hive = 8,000,000 > bees, suggesting some unmitigated hyperbole common to bee stories which tend > to be sensationalized in the media and propagate unchecked. Article 34289 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 4 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wskriba@aol.com (WSkriba) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 16 Apr 2003 01:28:28 GMT References: <504d7af0.0304141134.7865338c@posting.google.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Skunks Message-ID: <20030415212828.26098.00001452@mb-fd.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.cs.wisc.edu!144.212.100.101.MISMATCH!newsfeed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!205.188.226.97!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34289 When we encounter skunk problems we use a little fertilizer in front of the hives. The ammonia in the fertilizer usually is enough to discourage the skunk after it gets a little taste, as the fertilizer sticks to the paws which more than likely are honey covered. Article 34290 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BooBee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Head first into a new season Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 02:51:36 -0400 Organization: Storm Internet Services Lines: 19 Sender: allthings@dp-216-106-107-98.storm.ca Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dp-216-106-107-98.storm.ca X-Trace: news.storm.ca 1050475941 4915 216.106.107.98 (16 Apr 2003 06:52:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@storm.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Apr 2003 06:52:21 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!east1.newsfeed.sprint-canada.net!news.storm.ca!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34290 Hi all, I am new to the whole beekeeping thing as of last spring and did have a great season for my first try. I had just a single nuc which quickly grow into a strong full colony. Unfortunately, it did not survive the winter here in Ottawa Ontario Canada. In examining the comb in the dead hive, I found a few frames that had a large number of dead bees head first in their cells. Many others were in their "cluster" position and all were quite dead. 2 questions. Why did so many bees go head first into the single cells? Is it safe to use the same frames (Honey, pollen & comb) with new bees this season? Thx for the help, Craig_m Article 34291 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BooBee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Head first into new season Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 03:14:02 -0400 Organization: Storm Internet Services Lines: 23 Sender: allthings@dp-216-106-107-98.storm.ca Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dp-216-106-107-98.storm.ca X-Trace: news.storm.ca 1050477287 8412 216.106.107.98 (16 Apr 2003 07:14:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@storm.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Apr 2003 07:14:47 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!freenix!deine.net!east1.newsfeed.sprint-canada.net!news.storm.ca!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34291 Hi all, I am new to the whole beekeeping thing as of last spring and did have a great season for my first try. I had just a single nuc which quickly grow into a strong full colony. Unfortunately, it did not survive the winter here in Ottawa Ontario Canada. In examining the comb in the dead hive, I found a few frames that had a large number of dead bees head first in their cells. Many others were in their "cluster" position and all were quite dead. 2 questions. Why did so many bees go head first into the single cells? Is it safe to use the same frames (Honey, pollen & comb) with new bees this season? Thx for the help, Craig_m Article 34292 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:45:48 -0500 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Head first into new season Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:45:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 7 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.177 X-Trace: sv3-nwlQecVBdSB3RgRL4hOoYS003EHPZl1yhGva40bommiboU0TqyOVe727O6rBVrUytxibo2m7Xzd9Xy0!ya2gZNd47lLcu/86GPBjwDkvOl9HZgiC/xwYKCdRJlJ4lTPnNDc71bHqaZqbKYKxbLYDNbM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34292 If you have dead bees with their head down in the cell, that means they have starved to death. Although there may have been lots of honey in various places in the brood nest, it wasn't where the cluster was. And yes, it's ok to use the frames again. (West Texas) Mark Article 34293 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Head first into a new season Date: 16 Apr 2003 14:31:42 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 26 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0304161331.7ee038fa@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.29.104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050528703 29085 127.0.0.1 (16 Apr 2003 21:31:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Apr 2003 21:31:43 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34293 "BooBee" wrote in message news:... > Hi all, > > I am new to the whole beekeeping thing as of last spring and did have a > great season for my first try. I had just a single nuc which quickly grow > into a strong full colony. Unfortunately, it did not survive the winter here > in Ottawa Ontario Canada. In examining the comb in the dead hive, I found a > few frames that had a large number of dead bees head first in their cells. > Many others were in their "cluster" position and all were quite dead. > > > 2 questions. > Why did so many bees go head first into the single cells? > Is it safe to use the same frames (Honey, pollen & comb) with new bees this > season? > > Thx for the help, > Craig_m One problem does not eliminate the possibility of another. While it is likely your bees either starved to death or lacked sufficient numbers to maintain the cluster overwinter it does not mean that there isn't disease. Have an experienced beekeeper look over some of the darker brood combs to be sure. Odds are that there is no problem at all and everything is usable. Article 34294 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new package trying to swarm? Date: 16 Apr 2003 14:39:48 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 13 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0304161339.33dc5da9@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.29.104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050529188 29580 127.0.0.1 (16 Apr 2003 21:39:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Apr 2003 21:39:48 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34294 Packages should be installed at dusk for best results. They may also be kept for a day or two in a totally dark place (not even a crack of light) to settle down. Allen has probably forgotten more than I know about beekeeping. When I was taught to hive a package or even install a nuc we always did it just before dark and we blocked the entrance with a handfull of green grass which kept them confined for a day or so until they pulled it out or it dried out . Article 34295 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:01:42 -0500 From: "csoderquist" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Head first into new season Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:01:42 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.233.218.25 X-Trace: sv3-wklvggSuEZO0U/jw0/kBXQebGWr1Cju2O0g6+HUKf+48OojxcCP6kOyIaOxgGGMuBQ+MfkgUlrpc3VV!qZ8JqQ5WTwcZx/2Bapu+IDH1mjM6FPDnz2FhSZEujFVYq43YKK0ay85LVdueAyYB2rTabxAtlhYl!n6m/P4lnSivhXlJYvdAZd0Q5ZbJENiivo+kP X-Complaints-To: abuse@wideopenwest.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@wideopenwest.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.wideopenwest.com!news.wideopenwest.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34295 Dead bees headfirst in cells indicates starvation. "BooBee" wrote in message news:b7ivt7$86s$1@news.storm.ca... > Hi all, > > I am new to the whole beekeeping thing as of last spring and did have a > great season for my first try. I had just a single nuc which quickly grow > into a strong full colony. Unfortunately, it did not survive the winter here > in Ottawa Ontario Canada. In examining the comb in the dead hive, I found a > few frames that had a large number of dead bees head first in their cells. > Many others were in their "cluster" position and all were quite dead. > > > 2 questions. > Why did so many bees go head first into the single cells? > Is it safe to use the same frames (Honey, pollen & comb) with new bees this > season? > > Thx for the help, > Craig_m > > > > > > Article 34296 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com> From: Big B User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Ants in hives ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 9 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:34:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.238.249.131 X-Complaints-To: abuse@epix.net X-Trace: news1.epix.net 1050586473 205.238.249.131 (Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:34:33 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:34:33 EDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news2.epix.net!news1.epix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34296 I am asking this for my Dad. He has a few hives that have a lot of carpenter ants in them. What does everybody else do in this situation. He heard about using nutmeg, but an internet search on bees, nutmeg, and ants only gave us recipes to eat them. So if anybody has an idea, or if its not worth worrying about please let me know. Thanks, I will check the group, if you wish to email me change the .com to .net Article 34297 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Grafting Date: 17 Apr 2003 07:40:51 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 1 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0304170640.67b1affa@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.14.197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050590451 14139 127.0.0.1 (17 Apr 2003 14:40:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Apr 2003 14:40:51 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34297 What happens when an unfertilized egg (drone) is grafted into a queen cup? Article 34298 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "James Avila" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Grafting Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:29:21 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0304170640.67b1affa@posting.google.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 6 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34298 You get a drone who wants to redecorate the hive!! ;-) Sorry, couldn't resist! James Article 34299 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Gordon Lee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References:

Subject: Re: ot Mystery of the Old Shoe Lines: 35 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <2fUna.17$Ak.5@nwrddc01.gnilink.net> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:48:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.216.53 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc01.gnilink.net 1050677310 141.156.216.53 (Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:48:30 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:48:30 EDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller.gnilink.net!nwrddc01.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34299 "Geoff Miller" wrote: > Gordon Lee gushes: > > > Greetings Ms. LaStrega. > > > Bravo! This is the a-number-one best ot post I've seen > > in a long time. A tip of the old fedora to you. > > > Respectfully, > > > Gordon Lee > > > Gord old shoe, either you haven't been around the proverbial > block very many times, or you're really, really desperate to > get laid. > > Geoff > > -- > All I want is peace in the Middle East (and a slurpingly > hedonistic [bj]). > Greetings sir Geoff. . Am I that so easy to read? . Respectfully, Gordon 'old shoe' Lee Great Fritain Royal Memorabilia & Chip off the Block Emporium My favorite pickup line: "I know what you're thinking. How can this stud be attracted to ME?" Article 34300 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Gordon Lee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References:

Subject: Re: ot The Mystery Of ... Lines: 35 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:04:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.156.216.53 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc01.gnilink.net 1050678283 141.156.216.53 (Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:04:43 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:04:43 EDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller.gnilink.net!nwrddc01.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34300 "Geoff Miller" wrote: > Gordon Lee gushes: > > > Greetings Ms. LaStrega. > > > Bravo! This is the a-number-one best ot post I've seen > > in a long time. A tip of the old fedora to you. > > > Respectfully, > > > Gordon Lee > > Gord old shoe, either you haven't been around the proverbial > block very many times, or you're really, really desperate to > get laid. > > Geoff > > -- > All I want is peace in the Middle East (and a slurpingly > hedonistic [bj]). > Greetings sir Geoff. . Am I that so easy to read? . Respectfully, Gordon 'old shoe' Lee Great Fritain Royal Memorabilia & Chip off the Block Emporium My favorite pickup line: "I know what you're thinking. How can this stud be attracted to ME?" Article 34301 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Pete B" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ants in hives ? Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 19:53:02 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 20 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34301 Hi Big B I have large, red ants about the size of carpenter ants....red. I have never seen this kind before, but they are in the beehives eating the sugar syrup from the top-feeder. Lots are drowning in it. I am a new beekeeper, so don't know what to do about it, but think I read that it's no big deal....I will check on it some more. Good Luck, Pete in Louisiana "Big B" wrote in message news:3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com... > I am asking this for my Dad. He has a few hives that have a lot of > carpenter ants in them. What does everybody else do in this situation. > He heard about using nutmeg, but an internet search on bees, nutmeg, and > ants only gave us recipes to eat them. So if anybody has an idea, or if > its not worth worrying about please let me know. > > Thanks, > I will check the group, if you wish to email me change the .com to .net > Article 34302 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Bonnie" From: "Bonnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Feeders Lines: 7 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 04:31:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.186.190.57 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ptd.net X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 1050813107 204.186.190.57 (Sun, 20 Apr 2003 00:31:47 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 00:31:47 EDT Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsxfer.visi.net!204.186.200.104.MISMATCH!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!3831230c!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34302 I'm new at beekeeping and have read about feeding the bees and read about 2 types of feeders-a jar type thats outside the hive and a plate type .I'd like to know which would be better to use! Dennis Article 34303 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Eugene Ferreira" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ants in hives ? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 07:56:06 +0200 Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sil53-01-p42.nt.saix.net X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1050817831 11597 155.239.194.42 (20 Apr 2003 05:50:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Apr 2003 05:50:31 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed!btnet-peer0!btnet!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34303 Place your hive on a stand, the stand legs in tins filled with oil and water. Pete B wrote in message news:va3rr1quekfv69@corp.supernews.com... > Hi Big B > I have large, red ants about the size of carpenter ants....red. I have never > seen this kind before, but they are in the beehives eating the sugar syrup > from the top-feeder. Lots are drowning in it. I am a new beekeeper, so don't > know what to do about it, but think I read that it's no big deal....I will > check on it some more. > Good Luck, Pete in Louisiana > "Big B" wrote in message > news:3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com... > > I am asking this for my Dad. He has a few hives that have a lot of > > carpenter ants in them. What does everybody else do in this situation. > > He heard about using nutmeg, but an internet search on bees, nutmeg, and > > ants only gave us recipes to eat them. So if anybody has an idea, or if > > its not worth worrying about please let me know. > > > > Thanks, > > I will check the group, if you wish to email me change the .com to .net > > > > Article 34304 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com>

Subject: Re: Ants in hives ? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:08:57 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3ea27631$0$42662$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.1 X-Trace: 1050834482 dread11.news.tele.dk 42662 195.249.242.1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34304 "Eugene Ferreira" skrev i en meddelelse news:b7tcf7$bad$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > Place your hive on a stand, the stand legs in tins filled with oil and You will probably find the dead ants will build a bridge allowing more ants to invade the hive. better is that you smear the legs with a heavy grease. Do not economize to much. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34305 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:45:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3EA2DAC6.DCDD764F@hcis.net> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:37:10 -0500 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Feeders References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.240.93.36 X-Trace: sv3-NFXPjAgR7nPrWoH9zag8Jyt9eQha3cpnF/7tSkRXoZy0ogvK4CCYPxXwu/FPN4GTzQkeAIdJ7xyoLeE!y9IAghus4cAtMjfFYw4zVD1F4aER4WfCOzgzerwMC0UqJWS52yCbBKaVWvmedl6EK4VMjw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.shawneelink.net!news.shawneelink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34305 Bonnie wrote: > > I'm new at beekeeping and have read about feeding the bees and read about 2 > types of feeders-a jar type thats outside the hive and a plate type .I'd > like to know which would be better to use! > > Dennis What's a plate type? I use the type that replaces a frame inside the brood box and holds maybe 2 gal. The ones I buy have grooves on the inside for footholds but I usually drop in old wine corks or bottom bars for floaters. The problem with old wine corks is when the bees get all tanked up they spend all their time log rolling - the bottom boards discourage such activity. AL Article 34306 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Don Bruder Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: Bees vs. Hummingbirds - Houston, we have a problem... Organization: Chaotic Creations Unlimited User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Lines: 69 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:43:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.149.234 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1050867795 209.204.149.234 (Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:43:15 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:43:15 PDT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!diablo.voicenet.com!news.ticon.net!feed.news.sonic.net!typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34306 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1096 No, the bees aren't losing. Neither are the hummingbirds. But the bees going to the hummingbird feeders are causing some considerable friction. (to the point where it's beginning to look like gassing the hive and giving up beekeeping entirely might be the only way I keep the roof over my head) The situation: Me - humble beekeeping newbie (second season with a live hive) with one hive, populated by a swarm thrown from a feral colony living in a 30-40 foot high, almost totally inaccessible (You couldn't pay me enough to climb that tree, and anybody with more than two brain-cells rubbing together is going to take one look and say the same - it's a treacherous monster) branch of an old oak tree a few hundred feet away from my hive's location. The "opposition" - a disabled lady who feeds the hummingbirds. And also happens to be my landlady. Worse, she was once stung (by a stinging insect of unknown type - PROBABLY not a honeybee, but nobody, not even her, can say with certainty) and had a severe allergic-style reaction. Classic anaphylaxis. Consequently, she's got a fairly high-level "OHMYGAWDIT'SABEE!!!!!" mindset. She was stung by a honeybee (one from my hive? One from the feral colony? One from 10 miles away? Who knows - I sure don't) once last year when she mashed it while turning off a leaky water tap that it was drinking from. She came to me with the stinger still embedded, I used the old "flick it out with the blade of a knife" method and got rid of it, and aside from the classic "Ouch! That's no fun!" concept, there was no discernable reaction. Now, she's in a huff about the bees coming to the hummingbird feeders. I **THINK** that during/after the sting last year, I managed to get it through her head that honeybees are basically harmless unless provoked, and that her allergic reaction years ago was probably to a wasp or yellowjacket sting, (especially with the supporting evidence of her having no unusual reaction to the honeybee sting) that the two types of venom are unrelated, and that generally, someone allergic to a wasp sting probably won't "cross-react" to a honeybee sting, but... How can you know for sure if someone is convinced, right? Meanwhile, she's screaming bloody murder about the bees coming to the hummingbird feeders, and I need to figure out a way to restore something resembling tranquility. Preferably without either myself or the bees getting evicted. Any suggestions? I'm already feeding the bees, but as I'm sure everybody haunting this group knows, they're going to go where they please. Our first big flow of the season appears to be over - whatever it was that they were working a couple-few weeks ago has apparently dried up, since activity has dropped off some (or perhaps it's the nasty weather we've been having) and the girls are looking for something to eat. The hummingbird feeders are, of course, perfect targets, and since the hive (never mind the feral colony in the oak tree, which is even closer... Short of dropping that tree, which simply isn't going to happen, I can see no practical way to take them out of the picture) and the feeders are separated by no more than a couple hundred feet, they're all the more "prime". With the ferals sitting right there as they are, even gassing out my hive isn't going to stop the traffic, obviously. So I'm at wit's end. Anybody got any ideas that don't involved getting rid of the bees, getting rid of the bird feeders, or finding myself a new place to live? -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net <--- Preferred Email - unmunged, SpamAssassinated Hate SPAM? See for some seriously great info. I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart Fly trap info pages: Article 34307 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Bonnie" From: "Bonnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3EA2DAC6.DCDD764F@hcis.net> Subject: Re: Feeders Lines: 30 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <2EDoa.2482$zt3.301688@nnrp1.ptd.net> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:43:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.186.190.25 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ptd.net X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 1050871422 204.186.190.25 (Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:43:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:43:42 EDT Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsxfer.visi.net!204.186.200.104.MISMATCH!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!3831230c!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34307 I guess I mean the ones you're talking about! I'm new at this ,you have to excuse my ignorance!! But thank-you for your reply! Dennis "AL" wrote in message news:3EA2DAC6.DCDD764F@hcis.net... > Bonnie wrote: > > > > I'm new at beekeeping and have read about feeding the bees and read about 2 > > types of feeders-a jar type thats outside the hive and a plate type .I'd > > like to know which would be better to use! > > > > Dennis > > > > > What's a plate type? > > > I use the type that replaces a frame inside the brood box and holds > maybe 2 gal. The ones I buy have grooves on the inside for footholds but > I usually drop in old wine corks or bottom bars for floaters. The > problem with old wine corks is when the bees get all tanked up they > spend all their time log rolling - the bottom boards discourage such > activity. > > AL Article 34308 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 9 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: harrisonrw@aol.com (HarrisonRW) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 21 Apr 2003 00:12:41 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Bees vs. Hummingbirds - Houston, we have a problem... Message-ID: <20030420201241.18985.00000417@mb-m13.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34308 >No, the bees aren't losing. Neither are the hummingbirds. But the bees >going to the hummingbird feeders are causing some considerable friction. There are hummingbird feeders that have bee guards on them. Perhaps if you exchanged the feeder she has for one of them she would get off the warpath You should be able to get them at a brid feed store or large garden center. Article 34309 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3EA33B40.E47147EB@bulldognet.com> From: "David C. Heinsohn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees vs. Hummingbirds - Houston, we have a problem... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:28:48 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.240.130.139 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: dfw-read.news.verio.net 1050885305 199.240.130.139 (Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:35:05 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:35:05 GMT Organization: NTT/Verio Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com!hub1.meganetnews.com!nntpserver.com!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!dfw-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34309 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1097 Using a good pair of binoculars show her the feral hive. Might help her understand that getting rid of you and your hive won't change anything. Oh, and how about a honey bribe? David -- People sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf......George Orwell. Article 34310 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Don Bruder Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees vs. Hummingbirds - Houston, we have a problem... Organization: Chaotic Creations Unlimited References: <3EA33B40.E47147EB@bulldognet.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Lines: 27 Message-ID: <1NHoa.7285$JX2.475304@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:26:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.149.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1050888381 209.204.149.201 (Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:26:21 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:26:21 PDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!diablo.voicenet.com!news.ticon.net!feed.news.sonic.net!typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34310 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1098 In article <3EA33B40.E47147EB@bulldognet.com>, "David C. Heinsohn" wrote: > Using a good pair of binoculars show her the feral hive. Not neccesary. She's just as aware of the fact that it's there as I am. > Might help her understand that getting rid of you and your hive won't > change anything. I'm starting to wonder if she's just got a hair up her butt, and what she REALLY wants gone is ME, with the bees just being a convenient excuse. > Oh, and how about a honey bribe? Already in the plans, but since last year was my first season and they were busy getting established, I've got nothing available as "currency" yet. Total "take" from the hive last fall was a roughly 3x5 inch corner out of one frame. Good stuff, but I didn'twant to leave 'em short over the winter, doncha know... -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net <--- Preferred Email - unmunged, SpamAssassinated Hate SPAM? See for some seriously great info. I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart Fly trap info pages: Article 34311 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Don Bruder Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees vs. Hummingbirds - Houston, we have a problem... Organization: Chaotic Creations Unlimited References: <20030420201241.18985.00000417@mb-m13.aol.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Lines: 26 Message-ID: <2PHoa.7286$JX2.475283@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:28:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.149.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1050888510 209.204.149.201 (Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:28:30 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:28:30 PDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.compaq.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news.ticon.net!feed.news.sonic.net!typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34311 In article <20030420201241.18985.00000417@mb-m13.aol.com>, harrisonrw@aol.com (HarrisonRW) wrote: > >No, the bees aren't losing. Neither are the hummingbirds. But the bees > >going to the hummingbird feeders are causing some considerable friction. > > There are hummingbird feeders that have bee guards on them. > > Perhaps if you exchanged the feeder she has for one of them she would get off > the warpath Good idea... I'll have to look into that. > You should be able to get them at a brid feed store or large garden center. Hmmmm... I wonder if the local wally-world (with decent-sized gardencenter attached) has them? Only one way to find out... Thanks for the idea. -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net <--- Preferred Email - unmunged, SpamAssassinated Hate SPAM? See for some seriously great info. I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart Fly trap info pages: Article 34312 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new package trying to swarm? Date: 21 Apr 2003 04:32:24 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 44 Message-ID: <7ec141c5.0304210332.879445e@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com> <9936fa52.0304141237.5b9ba710@posting.google.com> <7ec141c5.0304150357.53eee829@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.26.122.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1050924744 12982 127.0.0.1 (21 Apr 2003 11:32:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Apr 2003 11:32:24 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34312 drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) wrote in message news:<7ec141c5.0304150357.53eee829@posting.google.com>... > nucskep@yahoo.com (Nuc Skep) wrote in message news:<9936fa52.0304141237.5b9ba710@posting.google.com>... > > My first thought was as your's, another queen was in the package. If > > you have spare equipment, ideally a nuc box, put your small cluster in > > there and check on them after awhile. If you've got a virgin queen, > > it will be at least a week before you will see any eggs. > > > > Nuc. > > > > drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) wrote in message news:<7ec141c5.0304140608.562fa535@posting.google.com>... > > > I just installed a new package saturday to replace my winter-killed > > > hives. The Hive I am using has drawn comb and honey in it, and has > > > had all of the winter kill cleaned out. I do have a entrance reducer > > > in place. I am in South Central Ohio. > > > > > > I installed the package and caged queen on Saturday, and after a few > > > hours, most of the bees from the package were on a nearby post - I > > > sprayed them with sugar water, brushed them into a box and replaced > > > them into the hive. > > > > > > On Sunday, a much smaller number were swarmed on the ground - I did > > > the same thing - sprayed with sugar water, and bushed as many as I > > > could into a box and replaced them in the hive. > > > > > > Any suggestions on what may be causing this and how to prevent it? > > > (could this be caused by a queen accidentaly getting placed in the > > > package with the loose bees?) > > > > > > Duane Rezac > > > drezac@greenapple.com > > I did not think of that - If I still have a small swarm outside > tonight, I'll put them in one of the other hives (I lost all 3 of my > hive - I placed the package in the one that had the most honey stores > left in it - the other two are sealed up) > Thanks. I did find out what was happening - it was another queen. Part of the bees swarmed again, so I moved them into one of the other hives last week. This weekend I was checking on the hives and took a look at the 2nd hive and found a marked queen on one of the frames (the queen that came with the package was unmarked) Duane Rezac Article 34313 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "postmost" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Head first into new season Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:44:04 +0400 Organization: Taide Network AS Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3ea3eb8c$1@news.itcom.net.ua> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: omega-router.itcom.net.ua X-Trace: ally.taide.net 1050929288 20016 193.220.130.59 (21 Apr 2003 12:48:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.taide.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Apr 2003 12:48:08 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: gidromash.itcom.net.ua X-Original-Trace: 21 Apr 2003 16:01:00 +0200, gidromash.itcom.net.ua Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!bnewspeer01.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!news.taide.net!news.itcom.net.ua Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34313 ํฯวี อฮฯวฯล ฯย฿ัำฮษิุ, ฮฯ ฮม าีำำหฯอ ัฺูหล ่ฯิลฬฯำุ ยู ะฯฯย�มิุำั "BooBee" ำฯฯย�ษฬ/ำฯฯย�ษฬม ื ฮฯืฯำิัศ ำฬลฤีภ�ลล: news:b7ivt7$86s$1@news.storm.ca... > Hi all, > > I am new to the whole beekeeping thing as of last spring and did have a > great season for my first try. I had just a single nuc which quickly grow > into a strong full colony. Unfortunately, it did not survive the winter here > in Ottawa Ontario Canada. In examining the comb in the dead hive, I found a > few frames that had a large number of dead bees head first in their cells. > Many others were in their "cluster" position and all were quite dead. > > > 2 questions. > Why did so many bees go head first into the single cells? > Is it safe to use the same frames (Honey, pollen & comb) with new bees this > season? > > Thx for the help, > Craig_m > > > > > > Article 34314 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Failed downloads at apimo.dk Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:21:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3ea3f024$0$670$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.83 X-Trace: 1050931237 dread11.news.tele.dk 670 195.249.242.83 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34314 Dear Friends! It seems that the server on which Apimii.dk is located has difficulties in handling a lot of hits at the same time, very often resulting in failed downloads. To overcome this, I have made it possible to order a CD for an amount of 10 EUR. Money left after handling and bankcost will be donated to the victims of the war. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34315 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3EA3F6BB.2050805@epix.com> From: Big B User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ants in hives ? References: <3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 51 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:45:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.238.249.68 X-Complaints-To: abuse@epix.net X-Trace: news1.epix.net 1050932708 205.238.249.68 (Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:45:08 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:45:08 EDT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.compaq.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news2.epix.net!news1.epix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34315 Thats the route I think he will go. Thanks Eugene Ferreira wrote: >Place your hive on a stand, the stand legs in tins filled with oil and >water. > >Pete B wrote in message >news:va3rr1quekfv69@corp.supernews.com... > > >>Hi Big B >>I have large, red ants about the size of carpenter ants....red. I have >> >> >never > > >>seen this kind before, but they are in the beehives eating the sugar syrup >>from the top-feeder. Lots are drowning in it. I am a new beekeeper, so >> >> >don't > > >>know what to do about it, but think I read that it's no big deal....I will >>check on it some more. >>Good Luck, Pete in Louisiana >>"Big B" wrote in message >>news:3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com... >> >> >>>I am asking this for my Dad. He has a few hives that have a lot of >>>carpenter ants in them. What does everybody else do in this situation. >>>He heard about using nutmeg, but an internet search on bees, nutmeg, and >>>ants only gave us recipes to eat them. So if anybody has an idea, or if >>>its not worth worrying about please let me know. >>> >>>Thanks, >>>I will check the group, if you wish to email me change the .com to .net >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > Article 34316 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3EA3F7CE.5050408@epix.com> From: Big B User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ants in hives ? References: <3E9EAE2B.8050100@epix.com>

<3ea27631$0$42662$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050504070206080301090003" Lines: 87 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:49:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.238.249.68 X-Complaints-To: abuse@epix.net X-Trace: news1.epix.net 1050932983 205.238.249.68 (Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:49:43 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:49:43 EDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news2.epix.net!news1.epix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34316 --------------050504070206080301090003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That got me thinking, maybe he could use some kind of teflon tape or something slick like that. Grease would probably be the cheapest though. Thanks for everybody's reply :) Jorn Johanesson wrote: >"Eugene Ferreira" skrev i en meddelelse >news:b7tcf7$bad$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > > >>Place your hive on a stand, the stand legs in tins filled with oil and >> >> > >You will probably find the dead ants will build a bridge allowing more ants >to invade the hive. > >better is that you smear the legs with a heavy grease. Do not economize to >much. > >-- >Best regards > >Jorn Johanesson > >visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software >and other beekeeping stuff. > > > > --------------050504070206080301090003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That got me thinking, maybe he could use some kind of teflon tape or something slick like that. Grease would probably be the cheapest though.
Thanks for everybody's reply :)

Jorn Johanesson wrote:

"Eugene Ferreira" <eugfer@lantic.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:b7tcf7$bad$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...

Place your hive on a stand, the stand legs in tins filled with oil and


You will probably find the dead ants will build a bridge allowing more ants
to invade the hive.

better is that you smear the legs with a heavy grease. Do not economize to
much.

--
Best regards

Jorn Johanesson

visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software
and other beekeeping stuff.

--------------050504070206080301090003-- Article 34317 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: kadney@turbotek.net (Ken) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Feeding Date: 22 Apr 2003 17:42:51 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 28 Message-ID: <7fe11997.0304221642.426d5cc3@posting.google.com> References: <9224aad8.0304150441.2ef6542@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.3.17.164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1051058572 29537 127.0.0.1 (23 Apr 2003 00:42:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Apr 2003 00:42:52 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34317 If you could > give us any figures you are aware of, or point us in the right > direction on the web Here's some numbers from Diana Sammataro and Alphonse Avitabile's The Beekeeper's Handbook: Sugar requirements: resting drone: 1-3 mg sugar/hour flying drone: 14 mg/hour resting worker: .7 mg/hour flying worker: 11.5 mg/hour 50-80% of flying bees collect nectar 100-1500 visits per load 1-29 trips/day 36-50 milliliters per load 5-150 minutes per trip full load is 85% of bees weight, or 30 mg nectar bees consume 35-60 kg honey per season in a normal hive, in active season, there's: 300-1000 drones 25,000 older foragers 25,000 young bees 9000 uncapped larvae 6000 eggs incubating 20,000 capped brood incubating Article 34318 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Mathieu Bouville User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,soc.culture.celtic,rec.food.historic Subject: 'Mead made complicated' web site: new version Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:12:37 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.75.182.135 X-Trace: news.itd.umich.edu 1051074762 207.75.182.135 (Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:12:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:12:42 EDT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34318 soc.culture.celtic:133217 rec.food.historic:27974 I have recently released a new version of www.meadmadecomplicated.org/, mead (honey wine) making and mead history, which includes: * a new section on tasting mead: http://www.meadmadecomplicated.org/mead_tasting/ * a new section on honey: http://www.meadmadecomplicated.org/honey/ * a glossary of almost two hudreds mead making and mead tasting words: http://www.meadmadecomplicated.org/glossary/ That's more than 30 % new content. If you have questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me [remove REMOVEME from my email address.] -- Mathieu Bouville www.meadmadecomplicated.org - Mead in the details Article 34319 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "crispin foster" From: "crispin foster" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: mould in sugar syrup Lines: 9 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:36:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.220.169.226 X-Complaints-To: abuse@paonline.com X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 1051130165 216.220.169.226 (Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:36:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:36:05 EDT Organization: Pennsylvania Online http://www.paonline.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer.visi.net!204.186.200.104.MISMATCH!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34319 I have been feeding my bees with sugar syrup for the past month. (I live in central Pennsylvania) I find that a black mould grows in the syrup in the hive top feeders and the bees stop taking the syrup. This occurs despite thoroughly cleaning the feeders and preparing the syrup with very hot water. Has anyone else had similar problems? Is this mould harmful to the bees in any way? Can one do anything to prevent the mould growing? Crispin Foster Article 34320 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees vs. Hummingbirds - Houston, we have a problem... Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:37:49 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 5 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34320 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1102 Some manufacturers use yellow flowers on the hummingbird feeders which attacts bees. Paint the flower red, and the bees will not notice the feeder as much. Article 34321 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey for Infants Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:38:12 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 3 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!ciril.fr!news.completel.fr!gitoyen!freenix!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34321 Why is honey bad for infants under 1 year old? Article 34322 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Don Bruder Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Organization: Chaotic Creations Unlimited References: User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Lines: 11 Message-ID: <_iEpa.8174$JX2.514680@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:18:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.149.195 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1051136314 209.204.149.195 (Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:18:34 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:18:34 PDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!news.ticon.net!feed.news.sonic.net!typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34322 In article , "BiG Orange" <@> wrote: > Why is honey bad for infants under 1 year old? Botulism risk. -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net <--- Preferred Email - unmunged, SpamAssassinated Hate SPAM? See for some seriously great info. I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart Fly trap info pages: Article 34323 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: mould in sugar syrup Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 22:42:50 +0100 Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.134.66 X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 1051137846 30443 217.135.134.66 (23 Apr 2003 22:44:06 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Apr 2003 22:44:06 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!peernews3.colt.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34323 Thymol. -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk www.stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk/ "crispin foster" wrote in message news:VOCpa.3060$zt3.358280@nnrp1.ptd.net... > I have been feeding my bees with sugar syrup for the past month. (I live in > central Pennsylvania) I find that a black mould grows in the syrup in the > hive top feeders and the bees stop taking the syrup. This occurs despite > thoroughly cleaning the feeders and preparing the syrup with very hot water. > Has anyone else had similar problems? Is this mould harmful to the bees in > any way? Can one do anything to prevent the mould growing? > Crispin Foster > > Article 34324 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: beeman10@aol.com (Beeman10) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 23 Apr 2003 23:28:05 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Message-ID: <20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsengine.sol.net!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34324 >Subject: Honey for Infants >From: "BiG Orange" @ >Why is honey bad for infants under 1 year old? A very young baby has not developed the bacteria, other gut organisms and resistance that protects older individuals from minor exposure to organisms like botulism. A very small exposure in an infant will result in infections that older children and adults would not notice due to the protection developed. Article 34325 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:48:08 -0500 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: mould in sugar syrup Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:48:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.129.118 X-Trace: sv3-LSkwQdzekoavQEkVNq73moaEHVL1jjW0LDEssumOCPBvJvJLGxUa4jC+zaZVqN1/CxE6+s0C9KFAs3K!I0CkjItOkSujmsNZWcJ7GXAs5gtozBvqvrqF8KymwuqWZq57jI+z8Yw0OQtyUvs5rQAHfm8= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34325 You can put a few drops of bleach or put a couple of teaspoons of vinegar in the water. Copper is also an inhibitor too. You might try putting a foot or so of uninsulated copper wire in the jug - haven't tried this one. Personally, I like bleach best. For bleach, start off with three drops and go up or down until you find the magic number of drops. If you want to use vinegar, start with one or two teaspoons and go up or down as needed. Just a tidbit of info, the black mold will not grow if there is "NO" light. You may get some slime though. Hope this helps. Mark (The Little/Coldiron Farm) If what you're doing seems too hard..., You're probably doing it wrong. :-) Article 34326 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jim Pickett" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:23:15 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 20 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34326 Mis-information is started by undocumented claims. Please give your references to your claims that infants cannot digest honey. In fact, only one case of botulism has been documented as related to honey. "Beeman10" wrote in message news:20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com... > >Subject: Honey for Infants > >From: "BiG Orange" @ > > >Why is honey bad for infants under 1 year old? > > A very young baby has not developed the bacteria, other gut organisms and > resistance that protects older individuals from minor exposure to organisms > like botulism. A very small exposure in an infant will result in infections > that older children and adults would not notice due to the protection > developed. Article 34327 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees vs. Hummingbirds - Houston, we have a problem... Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 02:00:47 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3ea74493.791978580@news1.radix.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip149.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34327 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1104 On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:37:49 -0400, "BiG Orange" <@> wrote: >Some manufacturers use yellow flowers on the hummingbird feeders which >attacts bees. Paint the flower red, and the bees will not notice the feeder >as much. > > I made the mistake of painting some of my hives red and the bees got lost. Others just flew into the hive and knocked themselves out! I damn near went broke buying asprin for their headaches. beekeep Article 34328 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Keith B. Forsyth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 07:22:51 -0400 Organization: Keith B. Forsyth Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.212.94.148 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1123 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!torn!newserver!news.hwcn.org!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34328 The following links may be of interest for references. The sources are The National Honey Board (US), Health Canada, and the Canadian Honey Council. http://www.honey.com/info/tummy.html http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/iyh/diseases/infant_botulism.html http://www.honeycouncil.ca/pasteur.html#infant Article 34329 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: New error and bugfix tested software Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:26:17 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3ea7e5f1$0$31988$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.59 X-Trace: 1051190771 dread12.news.tele.dk 31988 195.249.242.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34329 Dear fellow beekeepers! new fields : Super Medium Shallow Hivetype and for queen breeders mating place queen mating place queen mother mating place quenn grandmother bugfixes see http://apimo.dk/bugreport.htm if you are tired of slow download the I can offer you a cd with the beekeeping software and a lot of more beekeeping stuff. 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Article 34330 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.220.142 From: "Beeguy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: mould in sugar syrup Lines: 31 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:57:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news3.calgary.shaw.ca 1051207072 24.64.223.206 (Thu, 24 Apr 2003 11:57:52 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 11:57:52 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!c03.atl99!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news3.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34330 OOOOOHHHHH my goodness You should drink the bleach and stop feeding the bees during the cold. Don’t put poison in the hive unless you like it in your honey!! When selling honey you have to print the ingredients on the label. Here a sample: healthy home bleached honey with special verdigris! "me" wrote in message news:SSednV8NgMGluzqjXTWcoA@crcom.net... > You can put a few drops of bleach or put a couple of teaspoons of vinegar in > the water. Copper is also an inhibitor too. You might try putting a foot > or so of uninsulated copper wire in the jug - haven't tried this one. > Personally, I like bleach best. For bleach, start off with three drops and > go up or down until you find the magic number of drops. If you want to use > vinegar, start with one or two teaspoons and go up or down as needed. > Just a tidbit of info, the black mold will not grow if there is "NO" light. > You may get some slime though. > > Hope this helps. > > Mark (The Little/Coldiron Farm) > > If what you're doing seems too hard..., > You're probably doing it wrong. :-) > Article 34331 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:49:46 -0500 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: mould in sugar syrup Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:49:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.129.38 X-Trace: sv3-dEZABP9d5X33257eyTyReMaLIXUi+9esG0R1hVW4G5sJa/VkLIsoZIZ3A48Cd1fkwZ6JJcGk7lfhBge!WmKVBrd7rNMy/29qkxurstJdKTz4uL3ZYohd0AlBxiW9Kmao9CVKrdHy0G6FWD5oVyR5MA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34331 I can sure tell you don't have much knowledge in the area of "beekeeping". Any "beekeeper" knows not to put supers on when feeding, unless they're trying to draw out comb. And, any "beekeeper" knows you don't sell the honey from the supers that were filled as a result of feeding to draw out comb. As far as poison, you drink chlorinated water every day, especially if you drink bottled water or straight from the tap. Don't worry, I was new and inexperienced once too. (West Texas) Mark > OOOOOHHHHH my goodness > You should drink the bleach and stop feeding the bees during the cold. > Don’t put poison in the hive unless you like it in your honey!! > > When selling honey you have to print the ingredients on the label. > Here a sample: healthy home bleached honey with special verdigris! > > > "me" wrote in message news:SSednV8NgMGluzqjXTWcoA@crcom.net... Article 34332 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "crispin foster" From: "crispin foster" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Lines: 12 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:03:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.220.168.127 X-Complaints-To: abuse@paonline.com X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 1051211028 216.220.168.127 (Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:03:48 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:03:48 EDT Organization: Pennsylvania Online http://www.paonline.com Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsxfer.visi.net!204.186.200.104.MISMATCH!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34332 The theory is that honey can contain Botulism spores. The thinking is that this could potentially cause infant botulism. It has NEVER been proved that honey can cause infant Botulism. However, to be on the safe side, the American College of Paediatricians recommends NOT giving honey to infants under one year. "BiG Orange" <@> wrote in message news:vadu8rfs5arv3b@corp.supernews.com... > Why is honey bad for infants under 1 year old? > > Article 34333 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: nucskep@yahoo.com (Nuc Skep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Date: 24 Apr 2003 12:42:29 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 6 Message-ID: <9936fa52.0304241142.4eff61f2@posting.google.com> References: <20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.127.103.174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1051213350 30986 127.0.0.1 (24 Apr 2003 19:42:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Apr 2003 19:42:30 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34333 "Jim Pickett" wrote in message news:... > Mis-information is started by undocumented claims. Please give your > references to your claims that infants cannot digest honey. In fact, only > one case of botulism has been documented as related to honey. And your reference on this, please... Article 34334 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Frames of capped honey or sugar syrup choice. Date: 24 Apr 2003 13:27:20 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0304241227.6d79b4d1@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.108.78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1051216040 1068 127.0.0.1 (24 Apr 2003 20:27:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Apr 2003 20:27:20 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34334 jrlong@vt.edu (Jerome R. Long) wrote in message news:... > I have a great many frames full honey from hives that failed due to > insufficient late summer brood production and varroa. > I am going to acquire a couple nucs and want to get them off to a maximum > start. Will they do better with buckets of sugar syrup or with my honey? > I always assumed the honey would be best, but have heard opinions to the > The honey is ok but you need to decap the combs so that the honey runs, the bees should then take it. At this time of year there should be enough pollen about to take care of any bees ( this is of course applies to the UK) Article 34335 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Reply-To: "Bonnie" From: "Bonnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Introducing the bees into the hive-stragglers Lines: 9 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 23:32:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.186.190.185 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ptd.net X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 1051227169 204.186.190.185 (Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:32:49 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:32:49 EDT Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsxfer.visi.net!204.186.200.104.MISMATCH!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!3831230c!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34335 Today we got our shipment of bees and proceeded to introduce them into the hive. We tried to get as many of them into the hive as possible from the shipping container,however, about 2 fist size clusters refused to come out .We just left it sit in front of the hive. Will they come out and go into the hive with the other bees? Bonnie Article 34336 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Don Bruder Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Introducing the bees into the hive-stragglers Organization: Chaotic Creations Unlimited References: User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Lines: 38 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 23:59:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.149.193 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1051228759 209.204.149.193 (Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:59:19 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:59:19 PDT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!in.nntp.be!feed.news.sonic.net!typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34336 In article , "Bonnie" wrote: > Today we got our shipment of bees and proceeded to introduce them into the > hive. We tried to get as many of them into the hive as possible from the > shipping container,however, about 2 fist size clusters refused to come out > .We just left it sit in front of the hive. Will they come out and go into > the hive with the other bees? Almost certainly "yes". Sounds almost exactly like the behavior of the swarm I hived to get my start last year - Got a cardboard box under 'em, then clipped the twig they were dangling on, transported bees, twig, and box the few feet to the hive, lifted the lid, and poured 'em in. Most of them went in like pouring water - they hit the tops of the frames, and just sorta "flowed" into the vacant hive. Left in the box were several "clumps" of bees, along with the twig the swarm had been hanging on. No amount of gentle (as in "If I rattle the box *THIS* hard, they just sit there and buzz as one or two fall off the clumps, but if I rattle it a little harder, they seem to start getting grumpy, so I better not do that anymore") coaxing would induce the stragglers into the hive. Gave up on coaxing, and just left the box there by the front of the hive, and went to work. Got back home a few hours later, and by flashlight, wandered up to check on the situation. Nary a bee to be seen in the box, on the twig, or anywhere else. But the hive was sure buzzing merrily away :) It's my understanding that once enough of the colony decides that their new home is indeed home (a process that apparently doesn't take long) they post sentries at the entrance to fan "C'mon in, the place is great" pheromones into the wind. As soon as a straggler scents that, they head for it at warp speed, and everybody's reunited. -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net <--- Preferred Email - unmunged, SpamAssassinated Hate SPAM? See for some seriously great info. I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart Fly trap info pages: Article 34337 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:51:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:50:58 +1200 From: Peter Kerr Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <250420031250583103%user@host.domain> References: <20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: YA-NewsWatcher/5.0.1 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p.kerr.mus.auckland.ac.nz X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: scream.auckland.ac.nz X-Original-Trace: 25 Apr 2003 12:51:00 +1200, scream.auckland.ac.nz Organization: CLEAR Net New Zealand http://www.clear.net.nz - Complaints abuse@clear.net.nz Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.97.37.6 X-Trace: sv3-MR4U+MSDVEeCz/WNk7uoUXQOo/tZm+hxx0d2f85IB6ggBiR3dUoJLn4df7XIt2QemBgqwaysmcx8cTn!YSD7GmDsV+GBAhObYE+/GSr8D4tkSYhonnG+Hi7WBUlD5SahuK8BxeNPwTSyEAG657guq3rSKA== X-Complaints-To: Complaints to abuse@clear.net.nz X-DMCA-Complaints-To: Complaints to abuse@clear.net.nz X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.clear.net.nz!news.clear.net.nz.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34337 In article , Jim Pickett wrote: > Mis-information is started by undocumented claims. Please give your > references to your claims that infants cannot digest honey. In fact, only > one case of botulism has been documented as related to honey. > > "Beeman10" wrote in message > news:20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com... > > >Subject: Honey for Infants > > >From: "BiG Orange" @ > > >Why is honey bad for infants under 1 year old? > > > > A very young baby has not developed the bacteria, other gut organisms and > > resistance that protects older individuals from minor exposure to > organisms > > like botulism. A very small exposure in an infant will result in > infections > > that older children and adults would not notice due to the protection > > developed. I don't see any claim there that infants cannot digest honey, altho' there is a pile of literature on the effects of invert sugars... The problem as stated by beeman10 is the infants' resistance to "organisms like botulism". Honey often contains soil originating micro-organisms of unpredictable quantity and quality. Some are wiped out quickly by the peroxidase action in honey, some by other antibiotic actions, like Manuka UMF, or propolis balsalms. Some, like botulinus spores are digested harmlessly in the adult human gut, but not in infants. BiG Orange's original question looked suspiciously like a troll, but this subject needs raking over occasionally to get some fresh air into it... Article 34338 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jim Pickett" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:47:45 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com> <9936fa52.0304241142.4eff61f2@posting.google.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 13 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34338 See previous post in this thread. "Nuc Skep" wrote in message news:9936fa52.0304241142.4eff61f2@posting.google.com... > "Jim Pickett" wrote in message news:... > > Mis-information is started by undocumented claims. Please give your > > references to your claims that infants cannot digest honey. In fact, only > > one case of botulism has been documented as related to honey. > > And your reference on this, please... Article 34339 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 21:54:26 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com> <250420031250583103%user@host.domain> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34339 > BiG Orange's original question looked suspiciously like a troll, > but this subject needs raking over occasionally to get some > fresh air into it... I saw it on a package of Honey @ Shoneys Restaurant. It said not to feed it to infants under 1 year old. That is why I asked. Article 34340 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.220.142 From: "Beeguy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References:

Subject: Re: mould in sugar syrup Lines: 273 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C30AA6.5485A740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 04:10:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1051243851 24.64.223.206 (Thu, 24 Apr 2003 22:10:51 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 22:10:51 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news2.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34340 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C30AA6.5485A740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=E2=80=99s hard to teach an idiot but will try it. Verdigris (Copper Acetate) Poison Verdigris was used as a component of cereal seed steeps for the control = of bunt and smut diseases as mentioned by Duhamel du Monceau (1762, p = 94), Somerville (1800), and Prevost (1807). Verdigris - Acetate of Copper, C2H3CuO3 + Aq. The symptoms here = included, from various kinds of food cooked in copper vessels, belong to = the acetate, subacetate, carbonate, and some organic salts of copper, = the action of all of which is nearly or quite identical. Copper and = brass cookware that is unlined can develop VERDIGRIS when in contact = with certain cleaner containing chlorine sodium or acid. VERDIGRIS is a = POISON. Never use any copper or brass cookware that has turned GREEN, = this is verdigris. Authorities. 1, Fabas, Journ. de M=C3=A9d., XVI, 228, poisoning by = verdigris, from Hahnemann's Cuprum; 2, Hamburg Mag., VIII, 442, = poisoning by verdigris, from ibid.; 3, Lauzonus, Misc. Nat. Cur., Dec., = III, case 7 to 8, obs., 10, from verdigris, ibid.; 4, Orfila, = Toxicologie, cases of poisoning by verdigris, ibid.; 5, Percival, Med. = Trans, III, 8, from eating coppery pickle, ibid.; 6, Pet. de Abbano, De = Venen., c. 16, effect of verdigris, ibid.; 7, Pyl, Samml., VIII, 90, = poisoning by verdigris, ibid.; 8, Ramsay, Med. Obs. and Enq., from = verdigris in food, ibid.; 9, Zwinger, Act. Helvet., V, 252, from = verdigris, ibid.; 10, Drouard, Exp=C3=A9r. et Obs., Sur l'empoison. par = l'oxide de Cuivre, Diss. de Paris, 1802, effects of swallowing about a = drachm of Egyptian salve (vert de gris, honey, and vinegar), from = Wibmer; 11, Pyl, Samml., van Aufs., a. d. Staats-arzk. HEAD. =E2=96=BA Confusion and Vertigo. =E2=96=BA *Great confusion of the = head, [22]. [30.] =E2=96=BA Great confusion of the head, with beating = pains in it (second day), [29]. =E2=96=BA Vertigo, [22], [25], [29]. = =E2=96=BA Vertigo, even to falling down if she arose from bed; this was = especially distressing when she was obliged to rise on account of her = bowels, [29]. =E2=96=BA Vertigo, a very marked and persistent symptom, = mostly violent; it usually outlasted all the other symptoms, though it = was generally relieved by the evacuations of the bowels; it was always = combined with a certain degree of stupefaction, [22]. =E2=96=BA Vertigo, = so violent that the patient is unable to sit up in bed, EYE. =E2=96=BA Objective. =E2=96=BA Red inflamed eyes, with a wild look = (during the delirium), [8]. =E2=96=BA Brilliant eyes (soon), [41]. [70.] = =E2=96=BA Sparkling eyes (soon after), [41]. =E2=96=BA Staring, sunken = eyes, [8]. =E2=96=BA Eyes prominent (second day), [41]. =E2=96=BA Eyes = sunken, [26]. =E2=96=BA Eyes sunken and dim, [22]. =E2=96=BA Eyes = sunken, deeply seated, surrounded by blue rings, [4]. =E2=96=BA Fixed = eyes, [8]. =E2=96=BA Eyes fixed upward, [52]. =E2=96=BA Brow. =E2=96=BA = Severe pain over eyes (after half an hour), [42]. =E2=96=BA Lids. = =E2=96=BA Eyelids very red and swollen, so that they could hardly be = opened (third day), [49]. EAR. [90.] =E2=96=BA Difficult hearing, [26]. =E2=96=BA Slight deafness, = [4]. =E2=96=BA Complete deafness, in a girl of 22, [22]. =E2=96=BA = Roaring and ringing in the ears (second day) NOSE. =E2=96=BA Nose red and swollen (third day), [49]. =E2=96=BA Very = violent fluent coryza, with lachrymation and smarting in the eyes (third = day), [49]. =E2=96=BA Epistaxis (fifth day), [41]. =E2=96=BA Profuse = epistaxis, with petechi=C3=A6, in a child, twenty-four hours before = death Chin. =E2=96=BA Spasmodic contraction of the jaws, [4]. =E2=96=BA Could = not speak on account of tetanic contraction of the jaws and spasm of the = pharynx, [14]. =E2=96=BA Teeth firmly closed (after three hours), [44]. Again: When selling honey you have to print the ingredients on the = label. Here a sample: healthy home bleached honey with special = verdigris! "me" wrote in message = news:C-ScnWFrPtpWrDWjXTWcog@crcom.net... > I can sure tell you don't have much knowledge in the area of = "beekeeping". > Any "beekeeper" knows not to put supers on when feeding, unless = they're > trying to draw out comb. And, any "beekeeper" knows you don't sell = the > honey from the supers that were filled as a result of feeding to draw = out > comb. As far as poison, you drink chlorinated water every day, = especially > if you drink bottled water or straight from the tap. Don't worry, I = was new > and inexperienced once too. >=20 > (West Texas) Mark >=20 > > OOOOOHHHHH my goodness > > You should drink the bleach and stop feeding the bees during the = cold. > > Don=E2=80=99t put poison in the hive unless you like it in your = honey!! > > > > When selling honey you have to print the ingredients on the label. > > Here a sample: healthy home bleached honey with special verdigris! > > > > > > "me" wrote in message > news:SSednV8NgMGluzqjXTWcoA@crcom.net... > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C30AA6.5485A740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF

It=E2=80=99s=20 hard to teach an idiot but will try it.

Verdigris = (Copper=20 Acetate) Poison
Verdigris was used as a component of = cereal=20 seed steeps for the control of bunt and smut diseases as mentioned by = Duhamel du=20 Monceau (1762, p 94), Somerville (1800), and Prevost = (1807).
Verdigris -=20 Acetate of Copper, C2H3CuO3 + Aq. The symptoms here included, from = various kinds=20 of food cooked in copper vessels, belong to the acetate, subacetate, = carbonate,=20 and some organic salts of copper, the action of all of which is nearly = or quite=20 identical. Copper and brass cookware that = is unlined=20 can develop VERDIGRIS when in contact with certain cleaner containing = chlorine=20 sodium or acid. VERDIGRIS is a POISON. Never use any = copper or=20 brass cookware that has turned GREEN, this is=20 verdigris.
Authorities. 1, Fabas, Journ. de = M=C3=A9d., XVI, 228,=20 poisoning by verdigris, from Hahnemann's Cuprum; 2, Hamburg Mag., VIII, = 442,=20 poisoning by verdigris, from ibid.; 3, Lauzonus, Misc. Nat. Cur., Dec., = III,=20 case 7 to 8, obs., 10, from verdigris, ibid.; 4, Orfila, Toxicologie, = cases of=20 poisoning by verdigris, ibid.; 5, Percival, Med. Trans, III, 8, from = eating=20 coppery pickle, ibid.; 6, Pet. de Abbano, De Venen., c. 16, effect of = verdigris,=20 ibid.; 7, Pyl, Samml., VIII, 90, poisoning by verdigris, ibid.; 8, = Ramsay, Med.=20 Obs. and Enq., from verdigris in food, ibid.; 9, Zwinger, Act. Helvet., = V, 252,=20 from verdigris, ibid.; 10, Drouard, Exp=C3=A9r. et Obs., Sur l'empoison. = par l'oxide=20 de Cuivre, Diss. de Paris, 1802, effects of swallowing about a drachm of = Egyptian salve (vert de gris, honey, and vinegar), from Wibmer; 11, Pyl, = Samml.,=20 van Aufs., a. d. Staats-arzk.
HEAD. = =E2=96=BA Confusion=20 and Vertigo. =E2=96=BA *Great confusion of the head, [22]. [30.] = =E2=96=BA Great confusion of=20 the head, with beating pains in it (second day), [29]. =E2=96=BA = Vertigo, [22], [25],=20 [29]. =E2=96=BA Vertigo, even to falling down if she arose from bed; = this was especially=20 distressing when she was obliged to rise on account of her bowels, [29]. = =E2=96=BA=20 Vertigo, a very marked and persistent symptom, mostly violent; it = usually=20 outlasted all the other symptoms, though it was generally relieved by = the=20 evacuations of the bowels; it was always combined with a certain degree = of=20 stupefaction, [22]. =E2=96=BA Vertigo, so violent that the patient is = unable to sit up=20 in bed,
EYE. =E2=96=BA Objective. = =E2=96=BA Red inflamed eyes,=20 with a wild look (during the delirium), [8]. =E2=96=BA Brilliant eyes = (soon), [41].=20 [70.] =E2=96=BA Sparkling eyes (soon after), [41]. =E2=96=BA Staring, = sunken eyes, [8]. =E2=96=BA Eyes=20 prominent (second day), [41]. =E2=96=BA Eyes sunken, [26]. =E2=96=BA = Eyes sunken and dim, [22].=20 =E2=96=BA Eyes sunken, deeply seated, surrounded by blue rings, [4]. = =E2=96=BA Fixed eyes, [8].=20 =E2=96=BA Eyes fixed upward, [52]. =E2=96=BA Brow. =E2=96=BA Severe pain = over eyes (after half an hour),=20 [42]. =E2=96=BA Lids. =E2=96=BA Eyelids very red and swollen, so that = they could hardly be=20 opened (third day), [49].
EAR. [90.] = =E2=96=BA Difficult=20 hearing, [26]. =E2=96=BA Slight deafness, [4]. =E2=96=BA Complete = deafness, in a girl of 22,=20 [22]. =E2=96=BA Roaring and ringing in the ears (second day)
NOSE. =E2=96=BA Nose red and swollen (third day), = [49]. =E2=96=BA Very=20 violent fluent coryza, with lachrymation and smarting in the eyes (third = day),=20 [49]. =E2=96=BA Epistaxis (fifth day), [41]. =E2=96=BA Profuse = epistaxis, with petechi=C3=A6, in a=20 child, twenty-four hours before death
Chin. =E2=96=BA=20 Spasmodic contraction of the jaws, [4]. =E2=96=BA Could not speak on = account of tetanic=20 contraction of the jaws and spasm of the pharynx, [14]. =E2=96=BA Teeth = firmly closed=20 (after three hours), [44].

Again: When selling honey you have to = print the=20 ingredients on the=20 label.
= Here a=20 sample: healthy home bleached honey with special = verdigris!

"me" <me@home.com> wrote in=20 message news:C-ScnWFrPtpWrDWjXTWcog@crcom.net...

> I can sure = tell you don't=20 have much knowledge in the area of "beekeeping".
> Any "beekeeper" = knows=20 not to put supers on when feeding, unless they're
> trying to draw = out=20 comb. And, any "beekeeper" knows you don't sell the
> honey = from the=20 supers that were filled as a result of feeding to draw out
> = comb. =20 As far as poison, you drink chlorinated water every day, = especially
> if=20 you drink bottled water or straight from the tap. Don't worry, I = was=20 new
> and inexperienced once too.
>
> (West Texas)=20 Mark
>
> > OOOOOHHHHH my goodness
> > You = should drink=20 the bleach and stop feeding the bees during the cold.
> > = Don=E2=80=99t put=20 poison in the hive unless you like it in your honey!!
> = >
> >=20 When selling honey you have to print the ingredients on the = label.
> >=20 Here a sample: healthy home bleached honey with special = verdigris!
>=20 >
> >
> > "me" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> news:SSednV8NgMGluzqjXTWcoA@crcom.net...
> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C30AA6.5485A740-- Article 34341 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "niceguyWinnipeg" Newsgroups: alt.hobbies.beekeeping,rec.crafts.meadmaking,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help a newbie.. Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 23:32:48 -0500 Organization: The University of Manitoba Lines: 16 Sender: umclar23@h24-85-22-111.wp.shawcable.net Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: h24-85-22-111.wp.shawcable.net X-Trace: canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca 1051244992 20136 24.85.22.111 (25 Apr 2003 04:29:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: Postmaster@cc.umanitoba.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 2003 04:29:52 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1109 rec.crafts.meadmaking:3789 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34341 I am thinking of starting up a new hobby.. I thought I'd try beekeeping.. If anyone from the beekeeping newsgroups, or anyone from the mead making newsgroups, knows anybody near me that is a beekeeper.. I'd appreciate you getting me in touch. See I figure if I help someone who knows their stuff.. I get free training, they get free help.. Everyone benefits.. I am a student in computer engineering. This shows that I am capable of understanding complicated stuff and am a quick learner. I normally would just contact the bee organization in my area.. but I can't find its website.. I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Article 34342 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Some body is misusing my account. Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:40:10 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3ea8d86c$0$24643$edfadb0f@dread14.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.101 X-Trace: 1051252844 dread14.news.tele.dk 24643 195.215.97.101 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34342 I just cme home from a little jurney and found that someone is misusing my account and name posting here about my software. It is not me so in future I will change my account. Sorry about that -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson ( the real one) Article 34343 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Jostein Mork User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030409 X-Accept-Language: no, nb, nn, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey for Infants References: <20030423192805.19078.00000578@mb-m03.aol.com> <250420031250583103%user@host.domain> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 Message-ID: <089qa.30824$y3.2519312@news010.worldonline.dk> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:39:40 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.142.72.6 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@wol.dk X-Trace: news010.worldonline.dk 1051270780 213.142.72.6 (Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:39:40 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:39:40 MET DST Organization: Customer of Tiscali A/S Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news100.image.dk!news010.worldonline.dk.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34343 BiG Orange wrote: >>BiG Orange's original question looked suspiciously like a troll, >>but this subject needs raking over occasionally to get some >>fresh air into it... > > > I saw it on a package of Honey @ Shoneys Restaurant. It said not to feed it > to infants under 1 year old. That is why I asked. > > Here in Norway one isn't allowed to sell honey without the warning; Do not feed honey to infants younger than 1 year, printed on the jar! Jostein Article 34344 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:01:49 -0500 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References:

Subject: Re: mould in sugar syrup Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:01:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C30B00.F16F13C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.198 X-Trace: sv3-wuSiJsp1V3rodmHiHQR+35miu8kmqrHXD9WzOYPmLE1t250yK6YD1hY0OnndKrQy/0ViZyYyyUkf0al!1BqgWuzjVDsO2ZZCts2SspjSlblbWRceKHhnkG4bgAXrDXTmo/DLMqbAztjuf1hbAOEI4TM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34344 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C30B00.F16F13C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What you posted has no bearing on what I said. I didn't say to mix the copper with the bleach, it's a separate treatment. Copper in solution as I proposed is harmless to people and probably beneficial to the bees. Yes, it is hard to teach an idiot, but I wouldn't call you one, that's rude. -- (West Texas) Mark ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C30B00.F16F13C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF

What you posted has no bearing = on what I=20 said. I didn't say to mix the copper with the bleach, it's a = separate=20 treatment. Copper in solution as I proposed is harmless = to=20 people and probably beneficial to the bees. Yes, it is hard = to teach=20 an idiot, but I wouldn't call you one, that's rude.
--
(West Texas) = Mark

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C30B00.F16F13C0-- Article 34345 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Charles Newsgroups: alt.hobbies.beekeeping,rec.crafts.meadmaking,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help a newbie.. Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:16:19 -0400 Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: corrpc61.ads.uwaterloo.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: tabloid.uwaterloo.ca 1051276581 27718 129.97.32.109 (25 Apr 2003 13:16:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@uwaterloo.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:16:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Noworyta News Reader/2.9 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!torn!news.uwaterloo.ca!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1110 rec.crafts.meadmaking:3791 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34345 > I normally would just contact the bee organization in my area.. but I can't > find its website.. > > I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Contact the Manitoba Ministry of Agriculture. They will be able to point you to the beekeeping organization or maybe even an actual beekeeper. charles Article 34346 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: Billy Subject: Re: Honey for Infants X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs498032.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3EA93C83.2AA2AFFD@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Dew of the Plains Apiaries X-Accept-Language: en References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:47:47 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.tufts.edu!uunet!dca.uu.net!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34346 If you feed honey to a child of less than one year he will grow up to be a gay beekeeper. Hope I helped. ;-) BiG Orange wrote: > > Why is honey bad for infants under 1 year old? Article 34347 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey for Infants Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:49:39 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3EA93C83.2AA2AFFD@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 10 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34347 "Billy" wrote in message news:3EA93C83.2AA2AFFD@NOSPAM.yahoo.com... > If you feed honey to a child of less than one year he will grow up to be > a gay beekeeper. > > Hope I helped. ;-) You are weird. We all know what's on your mind. Article 34348 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BiG Orange" <@> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Some body is misusing my account. Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:55:03 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3ea8d86c$0$24643$edfadb0f@dread14.news.tele.dk> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 19 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34348 "Jorn Johanesson" wrote in message news:3ea8d86c$0$24643$edfadb0f@dread14.news.tele.dk... > I just cme home from a little jurney and found that someone is misusing my > account and name posting here about my software. It is not me so in future I > will change my account. Sorry about that > > -- > Best regards > > Jorn Johanesson ( the real one) > > Liar. Sounds like something a death row inmate says. IT WASN'T ME! Article 34349 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: hrogers@txk.net (Doc Rogers) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Introducing the bees into the hive-stragglers Date: 25 Apr 2003 08:40:17 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 25 Message-ID: <7e3b131a.0304250740.4080c5c3@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.119.69.73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1051285218 25096 127.0.0.1 (25 Apr 2003 15:40:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 2003 15:40:18 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34349 Howdy All -- Suggestion for catching/hiving a swarm: I use an apple box from the grocer. Cut lower half of the lid so as to make it easier to put back on. Shake,rake, brush, etc. the swarm into the box. Most of the flying bees will go into the small hole in top of the lid to join the queen. To hive, place empty super on the bottom board and stop up the entrance with screen. Place a frame or two of brood with some honey in whatever is to be the home. Be sure the brood includes eggs so that if the queen is killed or lost a new one can be grown) Dump all bees into the empty super and quickly set on the "home". It helps to put on a feeder immediately. Remove the screen at entrance after dark after the swarm has been confined 24 hours or more. Wait 4-5 days or so to allow proper homesteading before removing the empty super from below. No hurry. Doc Article 34350 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: hrogers@txk.net (Doc Rogers) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Introducing the bees into the hive-stragglers Date: 25 Apr 2003 08:47:30 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 5 Message-ID: <7e3b131a.0304250747.5f529389@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.119.69.73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1051285650 25590 127.0.0.1 (25 Apr 2003 15:47:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 2003 15:47:30 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34350 Howdy -- Correction: The swarm post is on Garden Web beekeeping. Doc Article 34351 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "postmost" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: ukrainean beekeeper Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 19:30:17 +0400 Organization: Taide Network AS Lines: 3 Message-ID: <3ea966b6$1@news.itcom.net.ua> NNTP-Posting-Host: omega-router.itcom.net.ua X-Trace: ally.taide.net 1051288315 5130 193.220.130.59 (25 Apr 2003 16:31:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.taide.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 2003 16:31:55 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: gidromash.itcom.net.ua X-Original-Trace: 25 Apr 2003 19:47:50 +0200, gidromash.itcom.net.ua Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!bnewspeer00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!news.taide.net!news.itcom.net.ua Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34351 ๋ิฯ ศฯ�ลิ ษ อฯึลิ ะฯฯย�มิุำั ำ ะ�ลฬฯืฯฤฯอ ษฺ ํมาษีะฯฬั ฮม าีำำหฯอ ัฺูหล? :-) Article 34352 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "cartercathey" Newsgroups: alt.hobbies.beekeeping,rec.crafts.meadmaking,sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Help a newbie.. Lines: 45 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.98.52 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net 1051289515 12.237.98.52 (Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:51:55 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:51:55 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:51:55 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu alt.hobbies.beekeeping:1111 rec.crafts.meadmaking:3794 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34352 Hope you have a little bit of distance between you and your neighbors. I live in a suburban neighborhood but there is a farm with an acre or two of land across the street. He has some bee boxes out back. Never any problems... Until, I saw a clump of bees on the back of my house. I tried to save the little guys by calling the city, but they said it would be very expensive to pull them all out since, apparently, they had build a huge network of hives INSIDE my walls. The guy from the city said that he couldn't believe I couldn't hear them in the walls. It turned into an expensive mess. Just FYI. Carter p.s. After I wrote this, I realized this is not what you were asking about. Please indulge me since this is still fresh in my mind and stinging (pun intended) in my wallet. They gassed them and pulled out gallons of honey "niceguyWinnipeg" wrote in message news:b8adk0$jl8$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca... > I am thinking of starting up a new hobby.. I thought I'd try beekeeping.. > If anyone from the beekeeping newsgroups, or anyone from the mead making > newsgroups, knows anybody near me that is a beekeeper.. I'd appreciate you > getting me in touch. > > See I figure if I help someone who knows their stuff.. I get free training, > they get free help.. Everyone benefits.. I am a student in computer > engineering. This shows that I am capable of understanding complicated > stuff and am a quick learner. > > I normally would just contact the bee organization in my area.. but I can't > find its website.. > > I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada > > Article 34353 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Introducing the bees into the hive-stragglers Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:39:02 +0100 Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.171.93 X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1051302943 12167 217.135.171.93 (25 Apr 2003 20:35:43 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 2003 20:35:43 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34353 >Will they come out and go into > the hive with the other bees? If the queen has gone in the hive. -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk www.stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk/ Article 34354 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.220.142 From: "Beeguy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <7e3b131a.0304250747.5f529389@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Introducing the bees into the hive-stragglers Lines: 34 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: