Subject: FAQ: misc.survivalism

From: [email-masked] (Fnord)
Date: 6 Mar 1995 11:15 -0500

Welcome to the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for misc.survivalism!
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               Modified last on September 17, 1994
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More than just a list of questions and answers, FAQ's are short introductions
to the community that subscribe to the newsgroup. In misc.survivalism,
we discuss survival theory. If there was one line we could lift out of
our charter to sum up the group it would be, "The prevailing philosophy
of misc.survivalism is that I and the ones I love want to remain alive
no matter what." As misc. survivalism is a new group, the FAQ will be
posted frequently untill we have made arrangements for this to be available
either through FTB or WWW.

Q) What can we talk about on misc.survivalism?

A) Anything to do with survival theory, including emergency prepardness.
Need plans for a shelter? Ask. Fly an aircraft and want to know what to
what to pack "just in case"? Ask. Hate firearms and want to spout off?
_Don't_ ask - see next question. Love firearms and want to talk about
them? _Don't_. See next question.

Q) What _don't_ you talk about in misc.survivalism?

A) There are two main categories of posting _not_ appreciated on m.s.
There is no moderator on this group - we like it that way. Post things
in these two categories and you will get lots of hate mail...

 1) Personal objections to theory which do not include survivalist/
emergency prepardness material. For example, if one person describes
his technique for food hoarding - and you think it immoral - write to
him or her in email. Don't put it on the group. Same thing about
firearms, we're not pro- or anti-gun as a group. Individual members
who wish to talk about that topic can go to talk.politics.guns, those
wishing to discuss firearms in general can go to rec.guns.
    If someone posts something about survivalist therory which you
believe is _technically_ wrong (like description of an edible plant
for example) then go ahead and discuss that.

 2) Postings which have nothing to do with our group. Someone who wants
to know what to do with his collection of 15 illegal automatics belongs
on rec.guns. Contrary to some misinformed users, we did _not_ split
from rec.guns and do _not_ want to duplicate their group. Also don't spam
us with ads for skin cream, lottery tickets, x-rated videos etc... Keep
on topic, flames belong in alt.flame or through email.

Q) How is this group controled?

A) As said before, misc. survivalism is not moderated. We operate on
common sense. If you see someone posting up non-survivalist material,
we encourage you to send them a followup by email asking them to keep
on target. No one wants a newsgroup with 150+ messages a day with
only 25 posts of any substance...

Q) Who's reading this group?

A) There were over 400 people who voted for this group's creation. When
I was starting this up, I met many of them through email. They come from
as far away as Germany and Australia and from all walks of life. They are
weekend campers, Boy Scout leaders, officers and enlisted men from armies
all around the globe, or just people concerned with their safety. Something
that surprised me (that really shouldn't have) is the number of women
who mailed me during the groups proposal.

Q) Anyone _else_ reading this group?

A) By the very nature of survivalist theory, some people raise their
eyebrows in suspicion. Therefore keep in mind that this is a public
newsgroup and _anyone_ who has net access can read this group. This
includes government agencies, so while it's not (at least on this group)
prohibited to discuss techniques or actions which stray outside legal
frameworks - it might be prudent to think carefully before putting
your name on such a post. Using an anonymous server (one not based
in your country) would be a helpful option.

Q) I have a question not covered by this FAQ.

A) I'm sure there are lots. This FAQ is still in its infancy. So for
now, follow the above rules and you'll be fine. Questions I see
repeated often will be added here.

Q) Who are you?

A) I am the proposer of misc.survivalism. For now I also do the FAQ, this
might change if someone else wants the job... You can contact me by email
at <[email-masked]>.

Q) Where can I look for more information?

A) Wendell <[email-masked]> has suggested a few books which might be
helpful for getting basic information on the survival topic. Please mail
any suggestions for additions (or deletions :) ) directly to him.

General Books
C.G. Cobb, Bad Times Primer.  This provides an overview of most fields of
self-reliance and makes recommendations for equipment and fields of study.
Note that it was written around 1979, so some information is out of date.

Bruce Clayton, Life After Doomsday.  Primarily focused around nuclear war
survival skills, this book provides basic information on survival skills
and, more important, references to find out more about those
skills covered in brief.  This was written in the late 1970s, so some of
the information is out of date.

Self-Reliance
 Colin Fletcher, The Complete Walker
 Dean Ing, The Chernobyl Syndrome
 Mel Tappan, Tappan On Survival

Nuclear War Survival
 Dean Ing, Pulling Through
 Cresson Kearny, Nuclear War Survival Skills

Firearms
 Massad Ayoob, The Truth About Self Protection
 Massad Ayoob, Stressfire
 Mel Tappan, Survival Guns

Reference Books
 American Radio Relay League, The Radio Amateur's Handbook
 CRC Press, CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics ["The Rubber Bible"]
 Medical Economics Company, Physicians Desk Reference

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From: [email-masked] (Travis Corcoran)
Date: 08 Mar 1995 17:27:52 GMT

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In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Fnord) writes:

>  From: [email-masked] (Fnord)
>  Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
>  Date: 6 Mar 1995 11:15 -0500
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>   1) Personal objections to theory
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>   2) Postings which have nothing to do with our group. 

I would argue that militias, NWO conspiracy theories, debate over the
meaning of the Constitution, etc. don't belong here.

The 1st needs a newsgroup of its own.  Has it been created yet?  The
second should go to alt.conspiracy or somesuch.  The latter should go
on any of the many political groups.

I'm not saying that these topics don't have merit - For example, I'm
interested in Constitutional issues.  However, this does not seem to
be the place for them.

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TJIC (Travis J.I. Corcoran)                 [email-masked]
                         Member NRA, GOAL
 
            opinions(TJIC) != opinions(employer(TJIC))            	
  "Buy a rifle, encrypt your data, and wait for the Revolution!"

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From: [email-masked] (Fnord)
Date: 10 Mar 1995 14:42 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Travis Corcoran) writes...
>interested in Constitutional issues.  However, this does not seem to

	Some people get quite offended when I email and say, "This
doesn't really have anything to do with survivalism..." It's not
that the topic is frivolous, but it really shouldn't be adding to
the (quite high) noise levels here.

	I am rethinking my rationale for not creating this group as
moderated. A long of commercial ads have also sprung up, maybe 
moderation _is_ the answer.

	What do the rest of you think?

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Thomas Moll aka -Fnord   |

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From: [email-masked] (Richard A. De Castro)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 00:51:12 GMT

>	What do the rest of you think?

As I said earlier, I don't think moderation is the answer - I don't much
care for moderated groups in general, and if/when we get the milita stuff 
off the group (soon, now, please G-d), the less need it will be.

Bet you never thought your little group would do this well, did you? <gg>

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