From lflondon@worldnet.att.net Sun Sep 12 00:27:58 1999 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:18:40 GMT From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." To: london@metalab.unc.edu Subject: Re: Hares On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:52:28 +0100, in alt.permaculture "Heather" wrote: > >Holly wrote in message <7rbuh7$hq5$1@fraggle.esatclear.ie>... >> >>Heather wrote in message <7r9f80$1ig$3@scotty.tinet.ie>.. > >>> When we had our first killing >>> session we were faced with 4 kids in one day to do >>Well done! You must have felt very proud of yourselves afterwards. There >>is a real sense of achievement when you do something like for the first >>time that isn't there? >Yes there is. When we had finished all the work our neighbour used the >livers and kidneys and cooked it all up with lots of onoins etc to make a >great meal. >The trouble is Emma(his girlfriend ) and the goat keeper in their family >and ourselves all felt like we wanted to turn vegan. >This is the curing recipe. >Dissolve 3lbs common salt, 1.5lbs alum and 3 quarters of an ounce saltpetre >in 3 gallons of boiling water. Stir well and allow to go cold. >Put the washed and wirebrushed skin into mixture. Leave for 3 or 4 days, >moving it around 3 or 4 times a day. >Remove and rinse really well. Hang up to dry. Then stretch it well.Pulling >back and forth over the back of a chair. Pumice stone the back and comb the >hair. Although I never did, maybe a dressing of neatsfoot or some kinda oil >would help to keep it supple. >HTH Heather > > From lflondon@worldnet.att.net Sun Sep 12 00:28:25 1999 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:19:07 GMT From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." To: london@metalab.unc.edu Subject: Re: Hares On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:10:34 +0100, in alt.permaculture "Heather" wrote: > >Holly wrote in message < >>How do you clean them (goat skins) first? Just scrape with a sharp knife >etc? What do >>you use to cure them with? It isn't something I have ever tried but now >>you mention it........ >I'll dig out the curing recipe later and post that. >I try to skin the carcass as carefully as possible, if I want to actually >keep the skin. Other wise it just sort of gets yanked off and buried under >atree with all the head, feet and nasty internal bits. > A short bladed very sharp knife is best.Headless body hung upside down >from tree at a comfortable height. Then it's just a case of starting to get >the blade between skin and meat, as close to the skin as possible with out >nicking it. I use a stroking motion, pulling the skin back or down as I go. >This is all really hard to explain! You want to leave as much membrane, fat >,meat on the body. I leave cutting around the genitals to Mark - cos I'm a >wimp. Also you need to tie up the orifaces so nothing nasty spills on to >your meat when you gut it. >When it's off the body you can scrape off any bits you may have missed, use >any thing sharp - a tin can lid? Then you want to wire brush the flesh side >so that it breaks the surface a bit. Finally wash it with warm mild soapy >water and rinse. Leave it to drip dryish before putting it in the cure or >freezer. >It is by far best to get someone to show you this, but that's probably not >going to happen in this day and age.:-) When we had our first killing >session we were faced with 4 kids in one day to do ! And neither us nor our >neighbour who owned 3 of the goats had ever done it before. It took us 10 >hours to kill, gut, skin and cut up those goats. I must say our butchering >skills improved over the four bodies. It's amazing what you can do with a >very sharp knife on a caravan table. >Heather > > > From lflondon@worldnet.att.net Sun Sep 12 00:28:52 1999 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:20:24 GMT From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." To: london@metalab.unc.edu Subject: Re: Hares On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 16:10:01 GMT, in alt.permaculture lflondon@worldnet.att.net (Lawrence F. London, Jr.) wrote: >On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:06:51 +0100, John Neale Baraclough > wrote: > >> How about goatskin wellies, then.Like long moccassins, dipped in >>melted green plastic, nice little adjustable calf buckle... No, there >>has to be a more organic waterproofing than that, any suggestions? > >1) rendered lamb (or beef) fat + pine sap (rosin) + candle tallow or >parrafin for canning > >2) very small amounts of the following: >turpentine + boiled linseed oil > >mix and heat --> filter ----> pour into storage tin to cool and set >should be real stiff but very slightly tacky - >smear over moc/boot/wellie and put near heat for the waterproofing >to melt and soak into leather. > >This also makes a very fine finish and protective coating for >wood (non-culinary use) ><> >Order of proportions: >- >lamb fat, rendered >pine sap or rosin > >candle tallow or parafin for canning > >(very small amounts of these or leave them out >altogether, maybe experiment with proportions) >turpentine >boiled linseed oil