Subject: Re: Datura Inoxia

From: [email-masked] (Jack Nilch)
Date: 7 Oct 1995 02:30:42 GMT

who is don juan?

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From: [email-masked] (Marc Kummel)
Date: 7 Oct 1995 18:48:49 GMT

Jack Nilch ([email-masked]) wrote:
: who is don juan?

Literary reference to Carlos Castenada's book _The Teachings of Don Juan: 
a Yaqui Way of Knowledge_ published back in the late 60's or early 70's
and widely influential, with several sequels.  The book describes
Castenada's apprenticeship to a Yaqui indian shaman in Mexico, and datura
use is central.  The rumor was that the whole thing was a fiction, even
though the "research" was part of Castenada's PhD work in anthropology at
UCLA.  Maybe someone else knows the details? 

It's a good read, but don't trust this book.  There have been incidents
of datura use requiring hospitalization here in Santa Barbara.

Marc

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From: Gilles Guerin <[email-masked]>
Date: 9 Oct 1995 18:10:12 GMT

Are you sure it's Datura? instead of Brugmansia? In Columbia and Ecuador 
it's Brugmansia (also call tree Datura) which still used by indians.
In western medicine, it is D. metel which was of current use, for asthma 
and related diseases (cigarettes and D. mixed with different other 
plants I can't remember, I would certainly say eucalyptus. To get 
"quantum satis potio"  you were requested to smoke the cigarette and 
stop when you just begin to be a little "stone", being not a physician I 
don't know if it's still in use as D. lethal dose is very small).