Subject: Anyone know dogfennel?

From: liz schmitz <[email-masked]>
Date: 24 Jan 1996 04:51:41 GMT

Need help, please.  I found an herb I'm interested in.  it was in 
an old book from the 1930's.  It's called dogfennel.  Can anyone 
tell me what this is?  maybe it's called something else now?  
Thanks!

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From: [email-masked] (m.lee)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:54:59 GMT

liz schmitz ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Need help, please.  I found an herb I'm interested in.  it was in 
: an old book from the 1930's.  It's called dogfennel.  Can anyone 
: tell me what this is?  maybe it's called something else now?  
: Thanks!

Grieve calls it mayweed or stinking chamomile - a librarian's secret:  go 
to your unabridged dictionary, the BIG Webster's that so handy for 
pressing plants.  It'll give you a scientific name that can be traced, 
even if out of date.   It's a Eupatorium, an Eastern weed, or was when I 
did my botanical schtick.  I think it's also called joe-pye weed or is 
akin to it.

ml

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From: Cindy Ashy <[email-masked]>
Date: 25 Jan 1996 05:00:04 GMT

Hi, Liz,
Dogfennel is really common down here in Jacksonville, FL.  I have a park 
down here that I work with that used to raise grain on a quail farm.  
When the quail farm moved out, dogfennel moved in...everywhere.
Dogfennel,Eupatorium cillifolium(Lam.)Small is in the aster family.  It 
grows to 1 - 2 meters tall and usually  looks all dried out.  It does 
great for allergies with all its pollen:-).  Its common in Florida and 
primarily, the coastal areas of southeastern states.  The flowers are 
very tiny but there are many on this feathery looking plant.

Book reference, Florida Wild Flowers and Roadside plants by C. Ritchie 
Bell and Bryan J. Taylor.  

Right offhand I don't know if its edible but if you want I can find out.

BTW This is not my email address that I'm sending from.  If you have 
more questions, I'm at [email-masked]     I'm Rob Barnovsky the Park 
Naturalist of the City of Jacksonville.

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From: mr_sackschewsky <[email-masked]>
Date: 24 Jan 1996 21:36:47 GMT

I believe that dogfennel is usually more or less synonymous with 
chamomille - here in the Northwest dogfennel is listed under the genus 
Anthemis, with a couple of possible species.  The "stinking dogfennel" 
would be Anthemis cotula L.

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From: [email-masked] (rick sojda)
Date: 25 Jan 1996 07:53:51 -0700

Liz,

I was stationed on the Eastern Shore of Virginia National Wildlife Refuge
for a couple years, and it was everywhere, especially on realtively dry, 
disturbed sites.  That's the extent of my knowledge, however...maybe even 
a bit beyond!

Rick

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From: Scott Ranger <[email-masked]>
Date: 28 Jan 1996 20:30:24 GMT

The weedy natives of the east called dogfennel are:

Eupatorium capillifolium (Lam) Small
E. compositifolium Walter

Both of these Eupatoriums have leaves so finely dividied they 
look like feathers (filiform).  The first species can reach 2m 
tall, the second rarely more than 1m tall.

They bear little resembleance to the Eupatorium called Joe Pye 
Weed that can reqach 2.5m tall with lanceolate leaves.

The genus Eupatorium is large and visually diverse with over 2 
dozen species in the southeast US, and many,many more over the 
rest of the world.

Scott Ranger