From lhoover@ivory.trentu.ca Sat Nov 26 19:16:59 EST 1994
Article: 13526 of misc.rural
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From: lhoover@ivory.trentu.ca (Larry Hoover, Chemistry Department)
Subject: Re: Deer fence
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In article <3aur3i$min@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>, MarkZall@ix.netcom.com (Mark Zaller) writes:
>The deer eat almost everything at a house/farm I have, and I now want to 
>plant several hundred fruit trees and grape vines. I think a fence is 
>the best way to minimize the problem since I am sometimes gone for 
>several weeks at a time. There is an exisiting 4 ft barbed wire fence 
>around the perimeter that doesn't even slow them down. Locals tell me a 
>fence needs to be 8 feet high to stop them, but any fence over 6 ft must 
>have a 50 ft set back from the property line.
>
>Instead of an 8 ft fence I am thinking of a 6 ft fence 2.5-3.5 ft in 
>from the barbed wire fence around 2 acres. I hear that deer can jump 
>high, or jump far, but not high and far. Has anybody studied the way a 
>deer jumps a tall fence? Do they take a 6 ft fence on the run, or stop 
>and jump? How far apart should I space the two fences so that a deer 
>can't jump from between the two fences, or over both of them together ? 
>2.5, 3, 3.5 ft ? Has anybody tried the two fence idea?
>
>-Mark Zaller

Based on the requirements of the local deer-farming community (over 100 
dedicated deer farms in my area of Ontario), an eight foot fence is indeed 
essential. It has also been found that a truly motivated deer *can* clear 
one of these. It occurs to me that a six foot fence might work, if at the 
top a T-shaped cross piece is added. This may then prevent the long and 
high jumps which the deer might attempt.


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From shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu Sat Nov 26 19:18:33 EST 1994
Article: 13528 of misc.rural
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From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
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Subject: Re: Deer fence
Date: 23 Nov 1994 16:04:47 GMT
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In article <1994Nov23.143728.11121@blaze.trentu.ca> lhoover@ivory.trentu.ca writes:
>It occurs to me that a six foot fence might work, if at the 
>top a T-shaped cross piece is added. This may then prevent the long and 
>high jumps which the deer might attempt.

Maybe, but last fall I saw a deer sail over a 5' electrified
fence from a standstill.  Deer can really jump.
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        Melinda Shore - No Mountain Software - shore@tc.cornell.edu
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From ng13@cornell.eduSat Mar 25 21:08:40 1995
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 04:55:27 +0000
From: Nancy Grudens Schuck <ng13@cornell.edu>
To: sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
Cc: jg16@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: deer fence

Hi, Kevin Smyth. Here in New York, and other states and provinces, we learn
a lot from farmers who raise fallow deer, and hence place a high priority
on keeping them IN. Several systems are worth looking at - although some
are more *serious* (e.g. expensive) than you probably intend. Although this
plan you propose sounds rather pricey just the same. A packet on deer
farming, and addresses of the North American Deer Farmers Assn. is
available from the Farming Alternatives Program, Warren Hall, Cornell
University, Ithaca, NY 14853 (607) 255-9832. Good luck! Nancy Grudens
Schuck

>Two four foot tall fences running parallel four feet apart will
>keep deer out of a field, so I'm told. Supposedly they won't jump
>the outer fence for fear of landing on the inner fence. Has anyone
>out there heard of this? Does it really work? Anyone have any
>experience with this? please let me know - deer are a MAJOR
>problem here in s.e. Ohio. Thanks - I am ksmyth@igc.apc.org

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Nancy Grudens Schuck
108 Kennedy Hall
Dept. Education
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
ng13@cornell.edu
(607) 255-4197
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