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From: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu
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Subject: COMPUTER ENGINEERING:  a DEC view, etc. etc. etc.

Date: Sun, 25 Jul 93 02:07:12 EDT
From: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu
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Subject: COMPUTER ENGINEERING:  a DEC view, etc. etc. etc.

Just in case I wasn't the only one looking for this fine book, it has
in fact gone out of print, the good news is that DEC donated many copies
to the Computer Museum in Boston.  Someone was recently selling it on the
net for $30, DEC sold them last year for $25, but the Computer Museum
gift shopt has them right now for $14.95 shrink wrapped.

They told me they have lots more copies (and the Project Whirlwind book
too, $17.95, interesting but very poorly written) and they'll sell them
by mail order too, call (617) 426-2800 x307.

Their used book shelf is mega-cool too, we picked up the 1970 PDP10
processor manual for 49 cents (not bad, RPI's library sent me a bill for
almost $300 the time I tried not returning their copy to see what would
happen!), and the PDP-1 instruction set book for $6.  They won't sell
those books by mail though, you have to go in person.  We had more fun
buying books than we did in the museum, most of the big iron exhibits
have been torn out (what ever happened to that big chunk of AN/FSQ-7 that
used to be by the entrance?  and the only PDP's were an 8/E, and 8/A,
and the front panel from a KA10, lame).

Just for your information.  It made *my* day.         John


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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 17:36:08 CDT
From: Clive Dawson <clive@mcc.com>
To: John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu
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Subject: Re: COMPUTER ENGINEERING: a DEC view, etc. etc. etc.
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 25 Jul 93 02:07:12 EDT

>John_Wilson@mts.rpi.edu writes:
>					...	  We had more fun
buying books than we did in the museum, most of the big iron exhibits
have been torn out (what ever happened to that big chunk of AN/FSQ-7 that
used to be by the entrance?  and the only PDP's were an 8/E, and 8/A,
>and the front panel from a KA10, lame).

Back in 1984, when we celebrated the 20th Anniversary of 36-bit
computing at the Fall DECUS Symposium, we had the Stanford PDP-6 on
display.  This system was then donated to the Computer Museum.  To my
knowledge it has never been displayed at the museum, and, if memory
serves, I've never seen the gift acknowledged in any of the museum's
reports.  Does anybody know the actual whereabouts of this system?

Clive


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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 02:34:24 EDT
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I picked up my copy of the DEC bible while at CMU -- it was being used as
a textbook for some EE course or another.  I paid $28 in what looks to have
been 1987.


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> 
> I picked up my copy of the DEC bible while at CMU -- it was being used as
> a textbook for some EE course or another.  I paid $28 in what looks to have
> been 1987.
> 
I still have my autographed copy - most of us in Hephastus land signed
it for each other cause smudge, John Mac (Yeah John I know I spelled it
wrong) and C. Gordon did not mention us workers....I did Get 
Al Kent and Al Kotok's autographs...and Gordon's as well as the most famous
Marty Schwartz, Ted, Bugs, Sully, and the crew...
bob


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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:00 -0400 (EDT)
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How do I get on the PDP-8 lover's mailing list?

I have some equipment someone might be interested in.

-Pat
w


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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 17:45:15 EDT
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:I picked up my copy of the DEC bible while at CMU -- it was being used as
:a textbook for some EE course or another.  I paid $28 in what looks to have
:been 1987.

Wow!  I spotted a copy of this book in very fine shape at a flea market
in Missouri.  The man wouldn't go below $0.50 for it, however.

Quite a tome.

-ethan


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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 13:17:29 edt
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   Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:00 -0400 (EDT)
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   How do I get on the PDP-8 lover's mailing list?

   I have some equipment someone might be interested in.

   -Pat
   w

   You are already on the list, as mchugh@utkvx.utk.edu. Tell me if
you'd like me to change it to something else.

   Let me remind everyone that the proper address for administrative
messages like the one above is pdp8-lovers-request@ai.mit.edu.

						-- Jan Brittenson
						   bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu


