Subject: Re: Shipping Damage Revisited

From: [email-masked] (Charles L. Rowe)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 11:11:49 -0400

[email-masked] (Jonathan M. Elson) writes:

>Dave Ficken ([email-masked]) wrote:
><snip>
>: that Southbend did a pretty mediocre packaging job. Six quarts of paint
>: were put in the same box seperated by only some styrofoam "peanuts". It
--snip!--
>We are pretty serious (and aware of Gov't. regulations) on haz-mat
>shipment and handling here at the Chemistry department.  Sounds like
>the broke the law at South Bend!

>				Jon

   I had a potentially dangerous packing situation with my last order
   from Brownell's.  It's the first time in 15-20 years that they did a 
   crappy job in packing my orders. I had two 1-gallon cans of parts
   washer solvent ( flammable, sorta-smelly, don't want to gargle with,
   liquid stuff) in a box with the rest of my order, just some paper
   keeping things apart.  Lucky the only damage was a hard plastic
   box 1 part was packed in didn't survive; the 1 gal cans were dented
   a bit, I'm not sure the plastic bags they were wrapped in would do
   any good what with the sharp shards from the plastic box scraping
   against them. 

    I didn't think of it at the time, but there was no haz-mat sticker
   on the box....

    I've noticed that despite the stringent regulations, and the
    lawsuit-happy world we live in, thoughtless shipping practices seem
    to be on the increase.

		my opinions! all mine!			Charlie

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan M. Elson)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 18:44:12 GMT

Charles L. Rowe ([email-masked]) wrote:
: [email-masked] (Jonathan M. Elson) writes:

: >Dave Ficken ([email-masked]) wrote:
: ><snip>
: >: that Southbend did a pretty mediocre packaging job. Six quarts of paint
: >: were put in the same box seperated by only some styrofoam "peanuts". It
: --snip!--
: >We are pretty serious (and aware of Gov't. regulations) on haz-mat
: >shipment and handling here at the Chemistry department.  Sounds like
: >the broke the law at South Bend!

: >				Jon

:    I had a potentially dangerous packing situation with my last order
:    from Brownell's.  It's the first time in 15-20 years that they did a 
:    crappy job in packing my orders. I had two 1-gallon cans of parts
:    washer solvent ( flammable, sorta-smelly, don't want to gargle with,
:    liquid stuff) in a box with the rest of my order, just some paper
:    keeping things apart.  Lucky the only damage was a hard plastic
:    box 1 part was packed in didn't survive; the 1 gal cans were dented
:    a bit, I'm not sure the plastic bags they were wrapped in would do
:    any good what with the sharp shards from the plastic box scraping
:    against them. 

:     I didn't think of it at the time, but there was no haz-mat sticker
:    on the box....

:     I've noticed that despite the stringent regulations, and the
:     lawsuit-happy world we live in, thoughtless shipping practices seem
:     to be on the increase.

Interesting.  I've ordered a few things that might be considered haz-mat,
or maybe not, but anyway liquids in plastic bottles.  I've ordered coolant
concentrate and various lubes, as well as DyKem, which would really love
to leak all over, and is most certainly flammable.  In all cases, it was
packed fairly well, with layers of boxes, plastic bags, etc. to prevent
damage to the inner container.  Now, of course, if the truck were to
roll over or run into the ditch, enough stuff could fly around to puncture
the inner container, which the shipper is SUPPOSED to guard against, EVEN
in an accident.  But, I've never had leakage of more than a trace of
fluid (2 - 5 drops around the cap).  Maybe I'm just lucky on this.

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan M. Elson)
Date: 13 Sep 1996 18:18:06 GMT

Dave Ficken ([email-masked]) wrote:
<snip>
: that Southbend did a pretty mediocre packaging job. Six quarts of paint
: were put in the same box seperated by only some styrofoam "peanuts". It
: never would have passed the shake test I give each of my packages
: before they go out. 

				Jon