Subject: Re: Grizzly Catalog

From: [email-masked] (Ross Borden)
Date: 18 Sep 1996 01:52:30 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] says...
>
>In article <[email-masked]>, From [email-masked] (Ross 
>Borden), the following was written:
>> I've got a ridiculous problem that maybe someone can help me with.  I 
>> called Grizzly Imports to request a catalog but when I they found out 
>> I live in Canada, they refused to send me one.
>
>Sounds like you should talk to the distributor you say has the machines
>in Canada.  After spending many years shipping parts and machinery to
>Canada, and the headaches involved, I can't blame them.  NAFTA is a
>joke.  The idea was great, but the implementation is something else
>again.
>

I only wanted them to send me a *catalog* which wouldn't involve any 
hassle whatsoever.  As for shipping the actual tools, I would pick up at 
the warehouse myself, as I already import from several companies in 
Washington.  Dragging one more item through the border is no big deal.

As for buying their tools here in Canada, the mark-up is ridiculous.  For 
example, Grizzly's G4000 9"x19" lathe is $795 US in the back of HSM.  
That's retail.  Busy Bee Tools sells that lathe for $1799 CAN.  Even 
alowing 50% for exchange and duty (they're Asian made, NAFTA doesn't 
apply), that's only $1200 CAN.  And presumably Busy Bee is buying 
wholesale, so they must be making a whopping profit.

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From: [email-masked] (Ross Borden)
Date: 18 Sep 1996 02:02:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, 
[email-masked] says...
>
>
>Yes, you can walk into their showroom in Bellingham, and they will give 
>you a catalogue.  Some of their stuff is sold by Busy Bee in Canada.
>
>The address is :  1821 Valencia St.,
>                  Bellingham, Wa. 98226
>
>Take exit 254 from the I 5, go east & turn right on Valencia.
>                   

Thanks for the info.  I'll be through there in a couple of weeks on a 
buying trip and I'll check them out.

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From: [email-masked] (Ross Borden)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 03:05:48 GMT

I've got a ridiculous problem that maybe someone can help me with.  I 
called Grizzly Imports to request a catalog but when I they found out I 
live in Canada, they refused to send me one.
  "We don't ship anything into Canada, including catalogs," the 
receptionist said.
  "Why not?" I asked.
  "Because it is our policy."
  "But what is the reason for the policy?"
  "The reason for our policy is that it is our policy."
  I am not making this up.
  I went around in circles with this woman several times, but could not 
get her to send me a catalog, or even explain why not.  The long distance 
charges were eating me alive, so I gave in and hung up.
  I have seen some of their machines for sale in retail shops here (at 
50% mark-up), so perhaps they have some kind of exclusive distribution 
arrangement.
  In their ads in the back of HSM, they list a PO Box in Bellingham as 
their western address.  Does anyone know the street address, and if so, is 
it possible to stop in and get a catalog there?  I pass through Bellingham 
several times a year on business, so it wouldn't be too difficult, 
providing they allow walk-in traffic (and they don't find out I'm a 
Canadian.)

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From: [email-masked] (Robert M. Kaplan)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 15:38:03 GMT

ISO used gear (A to Z) for small jewelry casting (new hoby).  Suggestions?

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From: [email-masked] (Scott Logan)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 11:54:44 GMT

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From: [email-masked] (Jens)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 06:59:23 -0700

>  "The reason for our policy is that it is our policy."

Been there, done that .....

>it possible to stop in and get a catalog there?  

When I went down there, I asked at a highway tourist information
center shortly after border where 1821 Valencia street was. Oh, she
said, you are going to Grizzly Imports .... my jaw dropped several
inches but sure enough, she knew what I was talking about.
Anyway, take exit 254 from I5 (Iowa Street) up to Valencia Street,
turn right and about 2 blocks down on the right you'l see it. Dont let
the residential neighborhood throw you off (it did for me).
Monday to Friday, 8:30 - 5:00. They have a nice big walk-in showroom
with a counter sales desk. Catalogs are 'aplenty.

Funny thing is that there is also an outfit called 'Gorilla and Sons'
in the same location (sister company ??) selling outdoor stuff. The
catalog sits right next to the Grizzly catalog. .....
AND they are happy to ship to Canada ........ go figure ...
(Or in other words Grizzley must have a distribution agreement in
Canada or the Manufacturer - which might not be Grizzley - has an
agreement with someone in Canada)

Jens
(Victoria, BC)

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Rayner)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:50:23 GMT

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From: [email-masked] (Vince Catalfo)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 96 11:48:25 -0400

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Robert 
>ISO used gear (A to Z) for small jewelry casting (new hoby).  
Suggestions?
I have a bunch of left over stuff from my own old casting hobby.
If your interested [email-masked]
I also have a centrifugal caster, and crucibles, etc...

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Davis)
Date: 19 Sep 1996 04:44:06 GMT

the owner lives in a huge complex on one of the fashionable hill
sides in bellingham... just drive up and ask him what gives!

In article <[email-masked]>,[email-masked] (Ross Borden)writes:
-> I've got a ridiculous problem that maybe someone can help me with.  I 
-> called Grizzly Imports to request a catalog but when I they found out I 
-> live in Canada, they refused to send me one.
->   "We don't ship anything into Canada, including catalogs," the 
-> receptionist said.
->   "Why not?" I asked.
->   "Because it is our policy."
->   "But what is the reason for the policy?"
->   "The reason for our policy is that it is our policy."
->   I am not making this up.
->   I went around in circles with this woman several times, but could not 
-> get her to send me a catalog, or even explain why not.  The long distance 
-> charges were eating me alive, so I gave in and hung up.
->   I have seen some of their machines for sale in retail shops here (at 
-> 50% mark-up), so perhaps they have some kind of exclusive distribution 
-> arrangement.
->   In their ads in the back of HSM, they list a PO Box in Bellingham as 
-> their western address.  Does anyone know the street address, and if so, is 
-> it possible to stop in and get a catalog there?  I pass through Bellingham 
-> several times a year on business, so it wouldn't be too difficult, 
-> providing they allow walk-in traffic (and they don't find out I'm a 
-> Canadian.)
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From: Ted Devey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:14:56 -0700

I suspect that Grizzly has an agreement with Busy Bee in Canada because 
Busy Bee now has some machine tools with the Grizzly label on them. Since 
Busy stocks Grizzly stuff, There is obviously some agreement between 
them about sending catalogs to Canada. Grizzly prices in Canada are out 
of this world!

Ted

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From: "w.j.ward" <[email-masked]>
Date: 24 Sep 1996 02:33:37 GMT

Ted Devey <[email-masked]> wrote in article <[email-masked]>...

> them about sending catalogs to Canada. Grizzly prices in Canada are out 
Hmm.  Frank McLean writes about Busy Bee in the September HSM (pg. 35).  I
wonder if *they* will send a catalog to the US?  Another source for
Canadians might be Production Tool Supply (1-800-581-8665).  Showrooms are
in the Detroit area.
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