Subject: Re: what is silver steel

From: [email-masked](JAMES R. DUNCAN)
Date: 29 Jun 1996 15:41:44 GMT

I am working on a project that specifies using silver steel.  Does any
one know what silver steel is and where it can be purchased?  Can I
substitute some other metal?
Jim [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (J. Kimberlin)
Date: 29 Jun 1996 16:15:36 -0700

In article <[email-masked]>,
>Jim [email-masked]

Drill rod.  Or precision ground flat stock.  Avalable at any industrial 
tool distributor - Travers, MSC, etc.  Comes in water, oil, and air 
hardening.  It is basically higher carbon steel that can be hardened.

JerryK

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From: Andrew Mawson <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 22:08:52 +0100

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
writes
>Jim [email-masked]

Silver Steel is English for Drill Rod which is American for Silver Steel
! ! ! ! !

Andrew Mawson ------> [email-masked]
Bromley, Kent, UK 0181-466-5582

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From: Clarence Noyer <[email-masked]>
Date: 30 Jun 1996 22:44:13 GMT

Silver steel is the British term for high carbon steel--drill rod and 
various other like O-1 and O-2 etc.  Probably anything over 1045 would be 
fine.  These are all temperable steels

"CC"

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From: Steve Wellcome <[email-masked]>
Date: 1 Jul 1996 12:23:26 GMT

"Silver steel" is the British equivalent of American "drill rod."

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 14:31:53

Ah..the old terminology problem...Brit=Silver Steel, NorAm=Drill Rod

When I first started reading Model Engineer and looking for Silver Steel,
I called around to many hardware and steel suppliers...got "contact a
jewelry supply house".      :-(

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From: [email-masked] (JHrisoulas)
Date: 1 Jul 1996 16:45:41 -0400

This is a term that I haven't heard in many, many years.  There are so
many "old terms" that are very confusing to the modern metalworker...Some
of them are still in use, but most have fallen by the wayside...

The term "silver steel" was used to describe a hardenable steel..a "tool
steel" or a higher carbon steel...from the mild steel, wrought ieons in
use at the time...

There are other terms that are just as old and still in use today such as
:
Plow Share Steel (usually 1060)
Improved Plow Share Steel (usually 1075)
Extra Improved Plow Share Steel (1084)
and Extra Extra Improved Plow Share Steel (1095)

Then there is the old Crucible Steels (this was used to differentiate
between the old wrought bloomery steels and the "newer" Bessemer process
steels) as well as the "Fluid Cast" steels (same thing as the Crucible
Steels)..

Simply there are far too many of thse old names that it can and often does
get quite confucing..

Oh well, that is what makes life interesting doesn't it?

JP Hrisoulas.

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From: John G Wright <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:26:36 +0100

>Jim [email-masked]
There are 2 types available in the UK the old type is not freecutting
but spec KEA108 is capable of being cut with a slowly revolving
gearcutter without the use of oil. I use it to make clock pinions
(Gears) and harden it by heating to cherry red and plunging vertically
in water. So it is not brittle I let it down to dark blue colour temper
using blueing salts that melt at this temperature. If you need an
address let me know. Both the steel and salts are available by mail
order in the UK.

John Wright [email-masked]
-- 
John G Wright

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Brooks)
Date: 1 Jul 1996 18:20:25 GMT

It's the British analogue to drill rod.  

Pete Brooks

JAMES R. DUNCAN ([email-masked]) wrote:
: one know what silver steel is and where it can be purchased?  Can I
: substitute some other metal?

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Date: 02 Jul 1996 14:34:59 GMT

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It's the same as drill rod, I believe.

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From: [email-masked] (David William Jenkins)
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 17:37:32 GMT

>steel" or a higher carbon steel...from the mild steel, wrought ieons in

Apparently (insert disclaimer ;-) it was called silver steel
because, at one time, most work was either done in black steel or
in cr*ppy, rusty mild steel.  As this stuff is always bright and
shiny it stood out from the rest and got called... well, you
know...

David Jenkins              -- aka --             Lathyrus Computers Ltd
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From: [email-masked] (Randolph Lee)
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 14:08:36 -0400

> address let me know. Both the steel and salts are available by mail

OK now we have an exact BS number for Silver Steel...

does anyone know what the ANSI Number (or letter designation) is that
corisponds to KEA108?

would it be W-1?

the usual response that Silver Steel = Drill Rod is not very exact as
there are so many forms of drill rod on the shelf...

~R