Subject: Cad-Cam for home use?

From: F.Smith-IMService
Date: 3 Jul 1996 06:29:40 -0700

Is there any interest in getting access to older versions of BobcadCam? 
I may be able to offer them to individuals at a pretty hefty discount.
Only the newest version is sold to companies, but if there is enough 
interest, it's very likely that a special pricing deal can be set-up for
home users.
          
          Best Regards,

          Fred Smith
          IMService

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From: [email-masked] (Jim Shockey)
Date: 3 Jul 1996 17:05:01 -0700

>interest, it's very likely that a special pricing deal can be set-up for

Well, depending upon how the pricing thing goes, 
I may be interested in a deal like this. Please, 
keep us posted, Fred.

Thanks, 

--jim			<[email-masked]>

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From: [email-masked] (J. Kimberlin)
Date: 3 Jul 1996 17:40:23 -0700

>E-mail:  [email-masked]

I would be interested.  But remember that yesterdays software is like 
last weeks newspaper in value.  A grand daddy like Autotrol used a long 
time ago by Boing, etc. is now freeware, for all practical purposes.  On 
the other hand a decent cad program that converts to cam, even in 3-axis 
using limited G-code output would be worth at least $25.00 more than the 
cost to make and ship the disks.  My comments are for the first real 
bug-free commercial version and that has to be quite a few versions past.

JerryK

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Drumm)
Date: 5 Jul 1996 00:09:09 GMT

In message <[email-masked]> - [email-masked]
(Jim Shockey)3 Jul 1996 17:05:01 -0700 writes:
:->
:->In article <[email-masked]> F.Smith-IMService writes:
:->
:->>Is there any interest in getting access to older versions of BobcadCam? 
:->>I may be able to offer them to individuals at a pretty hefty discount.
:->>Only the newest version is sold to companies, but if there is enough 
:->>interest, it's very likely that a special pricing deal can be set-up for
:->>home users.
:->
:->
:->Well, depending upon how the pricing thing goes, 
:->I may be interested in a deal like this. Please, 
:->keep us posted, Fred.
:->

I might also be interested, depending on price, and, since I'm not
familiar with BobcadCam, availability of a demo.

[email-masked]
Wausau, WI. 44d 58m 00s N x 89d 36m 45s W
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From: Jim Sehr <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 18:34:01 -0700

> All opinions are my own, even if they are wrong!
Peter 
I have about 8 copies of the bobcad demo. It will even run on a 286
computer.
It does the Cad & the Cam. It is a working copy of the program but it 
will not save drawings. but if you use the dos command graphics 
before you start the program you can print the screen and save part of 
it that way.
It is well worth the $15. demo price just for the time saved to figure
the math for bolt circles, angles, radius, and it will do the g-codes
for you.
you can draw a part ,then check any ang.,rad, or dim. with the program.
                                     [email-masked]
                                      
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From: [email-masked] (Jim Shockey)
Date: 5 Jul 1996 08:11:03 -0700

In article <[email-masked]> Jim Sehr <[email-masked]> writes:

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>you can draw a part ,then check any ang.,rad, or dim. with the program.

Hi, Jim. I've gotta push you a little on something.  :-) 
One of the features that BobCAD/CAM has stressed 
is its ability to accept input in the form of .DXF files. 
If this is fully functional except in the area of saving 
the CAD work, then does it still allow this input of 
externally generated .DXF files? If so, then one could 
do the entire job, albeit the hard way. Assuming that 
one has a CAD package that will generate .DXFs. 

True or False? 

Thanks,

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From: F.Smith-Imservice
Date: 5 Jul 1996 11:01:18 -0700

>>I have bobcad demo. It will even run on a 286
>>computer.

>--jim			<[email-masked]>

Jim,

	The demo doesn't allow saving of CAD or CAM files.  It also doesn't
allow printing or communications.  It will allow you to do drawing, and posting
and verification of drawing data, such as tangency intersection points, also 
DXF import.  My original posting was not for demo software, but full working
copies, specially liscensed to home users for non commercial use.

          Best Regards,

          Fred Smith
          IMService

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From: [email-masked] (WRitt)
Date: 5 Jul 1996 19:41:32 -0400

>interest, it's very likely that a special pricing deal can be set-up for

I would be interested if the price is right and it is a legal copy of the
software.

Bill Rittner

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Drumm)
Date: 5 Jul 1996 23:59:07 GMT

In message <[email-masked]> - Jim Sehr
<[email-masked]>Thu, 04 Jul 1996 18:34:01 -0700 writes:
:->Peter 
:->I have about 8 copies of the bobcad demo. It will even run on a 286
:->computer.

How about a 6x86 & OS/2 Merlin? Just kidding, I don't have the 6x86
yet<g>

:->It does the Cad & the Cam. It is a working copy of the program but it 
:->will not save drawings. but if you use the dos command graphics 
:->before you start the program you can print the screen and save part of 
:->it that way.
:->It is well worth the $15. demo price just for the time saved to figure
:->the math for bolt circles, angles, radius, and it will do the g-codes
:->for you.
:->you can draw a part ,then check any ang.,rad, or dim. with the program.

I'd be mostly interested in the CAD part of it, I don't have any CNC
machines. The main problem with most of the CAD progs I've tried is
they are too hard to learn. I did try FastCad once, so far that was
the easiest to use for me. How's BCC as far as learning it?

[email-masked]

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From: Jim Sehr <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 17:17:24 -0700

> --jim                   <[email-masked]>
Hi Jim
bobcad has a readdxf function in the utility menu.And it has
a seperate dos program dgn2dxf. But i don't have the demo 
loaded anymore and i cann't be sure if it will do what you want.
Break down and spend $15 and find out. :-)

                                  [email-masked]

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From: Jim Sehr <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 19:46:53 -0700

> All opinions are my own, even if they are wrong!
Peter 
I think all cad programs are hard to learn. I went to school and took a 
class of Autocad. So I knew how to draw cad before I saw Bobcad. But I
think Bobcad is one of the easier programs to learn cad basics
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