Subject: small machines for sale

From: ANDY POPKY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 15:55:14 -0500

greetings all

here are several small mills & lathes for sale
the photo location is listed under each item
feel free to call, email or use Western Union to discuss them

used Millrite vertical milling machine
8" x 36" t-slotted table
r-8 spindle
tilt and swivel head (not common on most millrites)
1hp
set of collets
nice condition
price $1,950.00

http://www.marshallmachinery.com/images/1105.jpg

used Clausing horizontal milling machine
model 8540    s/n 800602
7" x 26" t-slotted table
power feed to table
2 speed handwhell  (nice feature)
52-2000 rpm   hi-lo gearing
arbor support
#30 taper, assorted toolholders
this machine is in first class condition
price $2,500.00

http://www.marshallmachinery.com/images/1177.jpg

used Rockwell lathe
model 25-700  s/n1576031   cabinet style
10" x 24" capacity
3&4 jaw chuck, 4 way toolpost
5-c draw bar w/assorted collets
paint is a little rough but a good solid machine
price $2,450.00

http://www.marshallmachinery.com/images/1145.jpg

used Logan lathe
model 825   s/n 29998   cabinet style
11" x 24" capacity
6" 3-jaw
face plate, steady rest, drill chuck
good condition
price $1,850.00

http://www.marshallmachinery.com/images/1144.jpg

used Soutbend lathe
s/n 21556r
10" x 32" capacity
flame hardened bed
d1-3 camlock spindle
4&6 jaw chuck, micr. carriage stop, dog plate
very good condition    nice ways
price $2,950.00

http://www.marshallmachinery.com/images/967.jpg

used Clausing lathe
model 6913  s/n 601358  
14" x 48" capacity
flame hardened bed
43 - 1650 rpm vari-speed
***taper attachment***
3&4 jaw chuck, face & dog plate, steady & follow rest
5-c quick action draw bar  w/assorted collets
first class condition
price $4,450
also available 6 position bed turret $1,250
quick action (Hardinge type) cross slide $500

http://www.marshallmachinery.com/images/1176.jpg

thats all folks...............

andy popky
516 385 9452

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From: ANDY POPKY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:15:50 -0500

peter,peter,peter

stop your righteous god like statements

what i posted was i no way spam
i listed 6 machines that would 
most likely be of interest to members of the group.
either they might be looking for a small hobby type machine, or as a
price comparison to what they have.
it was a short post with links to photos.

i didn't hear any complaints when 
i listed inspection equipment for sale.
actully everbody i sold tools to were happy as could be.

the subject line of the post was clear, SMALL MACHINES FOR SALE
if it didn't interest you, you should not have read it

i don't read every post on the ng, just the one of interest

grow up  
stop trying to be the den mother

regards
ap

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From: [email-masked]
Date: 15 Dec 1996 17:35:07 GMT

>thats all folks...............

Now you *are* spamming Andy.

Peter

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From: [email-masked] (Randolph Lee)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:18:17 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>,

>feel free to call, email or use Western Union to discuss them

Andy did you get the emails I sent you asking about Schaublin tooling?

Randolph Lee
Windshadow Engineering

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From: [email-masked](Roger Loving)
Date: 16 Dec 1996 04:41:54 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (John A. Burnett)
writes: 
>
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>>peter,peter,peter     >>stop your righteous god like statements
>>
>>what i posted was i no way spam>>i listed 6 machines that would 

>Sorry Andy, gotta agree with Peter on this one, you're crossing the
line.
>John Burnett

    Just to keep the ball bouncing.. I thought Andy's post was o.k.
  But then I thought Peter's comment was intended hunorous. So what do
I know? 
                                                Roger L.

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From: Mike Patrick <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:53:23 +0000

> Now you *are* spamming Andy.

As an aspiring home machinist, I kindly support the other side of this 
one.  Many readers of this newsgroup are still "tooling up".  With a 
clear subject line, there's no reason that this ad won't be of 
assistance to someone in this ng, either as a purchase option, or as a 
point of reference/reality check for pricing and availability, and those 
who don't need equipment need not read.  I personally don't make much of 
a distinction between a private seller and a dealer (so long as they are 
not posting daily 50k specials).  Andy and Jim seem to be available for 
straightforward answers to purchase questions on used machinery and 
Sherline if a user wishes, which is more than one can sometimes get from 
local machine dealers...I'm lucky to have a good one here in the Denver 
area.

Mike Patrick

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From: John L Ferrell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:23:52 -0800

> price comparison to what they have.

Keep the info coming! Eventually I am going to find the right mill for my hobbies, 
probably a 700 pound Asian work in progress if something better does no come along.

John Ferrell in Julian NC

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From: Paul Schuele <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:56:02 -0700

> stop your righteous god like statements
Andy:
      The flame you refer to has not yet reached my server. However I
was quite interested in the price/description and LINK to the Millrite
photo. I think the post was more appropriate than some of the flame wars
and side comments of late.

Paul

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From: [email-masked] (John A. Burnett)
Date: 15 Dec 1996 20:20:49 GMT

>most likely be of interest to members of the group.

snip......................

>stop trying to be the den mother

Sorry Andy, gotta agree with Peter on this one, you're crossing the line.

John Burnett

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From: Jim Harvey <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:41:46 -0500

> Sorry Andy, gotta agree with Peter on this one, you're crossing the line.

Hmmmm, I enjoy reading a post of machines for sale. Even if they come 
>from  a dealer. At least Andy CONTRIBUTES to the group ( although some 
might argue with me on that point! :^)  I have far less problem with 
someone who is here on a regular basis advertising their equipment than 
the "hit and run" types who only are here long enough to drop off their 
ad and blow out the door.

Of course, I suppose that I am prejudiced being a SHERLINE dealer. I 
occasionally advertise my specials here on the group as well. I DO 
disagree that what Andy posted was spam. My understanding of Spam is 
crossposting to numerous groups, unrelated items or information. Andy's 
post was appropriate for the group posted to.

Of course, Andy paid me $8.00 to say all this.

Jim " Easily bribed" Harvey
[email-masked]
http://hre.com

P.S. Please do not hold me responsible for the photo on my web site home 
page. --- Thank you

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Grauman)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:10:15 mountain

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:
>From: [email-masked]

>Peter

I don't consider any of Andy Popkys' postings to be spamming.
I find them useful, interesting, and appropriate to this ng.

			Robert Grauman in Sunny Alberta

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From: Jim Harvey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:47:26 -0500

>   But then I thought Peter's comment was intended hunorous. So what do

ROGER YOU FOOL!

Don't you know that HUMOR IS VERBOTEN! on rcm?

COOLER 30 DAYS!

Jim "Shultz" Harvey
[email-masked]
http://hre.com

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From: [email-masked]
Date: 16 Dec 1996 18:31:28 GMT

>  But then I thought Peter's comment was intended hunorous. So what do

I can tell you what *you* know Robert. You were the only one that got it
right. I have already e-mailed Andy to that effect. Of course it was an
acceptable informative email. Damn some of you *other* guys just take life
waaaaaayy tooo seriously.

About three days back Andy responded to a guy's question about whether it
was ok to advertise a lathe here. In the response he mentioned spamming
and how it would be ok to advertise his lathe.                            

Ok, Andy, I *am* fully grown, not a den mother just a poor old fart with a
sense of humour still intact, unlike some! <phhht>

Peter

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From: "Mike Henry" <[email-masked]>
Date: 16 Dec 1996 16:51:03 GMT

I wasn't especially annoyed at Andy's machines-for-sale post, although I
suppose it technically crossed the netiquette line.  Even archived it as a
reference point for used machine cost (at least from the dealer's POV).  

Of course I'd feel a lot different if he'd ended the post with "please
respond by email so i don't have to read this ng"...

John A. Burnett <[email-masked]> wrote in article
<[email-masked]>...

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From: [email-masked]
Date: 16 Dec 1996 17:17:03 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Mike Patrick
<[email-masked]> writes:

>one.  Many readers of this newsgroup are still "tooling up". 

I agree, sometimes I have to post some things for sale also.  Usually it
is due to raising my hand at an auction.  However if anyone saw my shop
and areas, tey would probably say that I am a dealer also.  There are not
enough of us on this group to waste time with bantering about postings of
for sale items.  I think that Andy was within the unwritten policies of
this group to only list a few items.

Most of you guys are in areas where equipment is abundant (old
manufacturing areas), Down here in Okla., we didn't become a state until
1906, in the later part of the industrial revolution, and we didn't
manufacture anything until the 50's when the oil started to decline.
Equipment and money are both in short supply here.  A 9 inch Logan with
some tooling sold last month for $2250, and not at auction.  An old  M
series BPT here will sell for $4000.  Believe me if I had a truck that
would make the trip, and a wad of cash, I would be traveling to Andy's and
Dave's.  

I thought the posts were in good taste and properly executed.  A lot more
interseting than Babewatch.com.!!!!!!!!!!!!

My opinion.

Cecil in oK

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From: Regis Galbach <[email-masked]>
Date: 17 Dec 1996 01:06:21 GMT

And here's another $.05 worth to keep those occasional, ads comming from 
paticipants.  I am also carrying out a 'one man' boycott of the Pensacola 
News Urinal....I mean Journal.  
tx,
Regis

"Les Whitaker" <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Well, I missed most of the contretemps over the posting for sale, but
>here's my $0.05 worth: I expected to see stuff for sale from time to time
>on the board. I personally enjoy reading it  and use the info for
>comparison shopping. Of the two machinery sales sites I know of on the WEB,
>both are aimed at the commercial end of the market. I am an ORG (old
>retired guy) and don't really need anything, but heck, it's entertaining
>for me to read, since I am carrying on a one-man boycott of the St. L.
>Post-Dispatch, I don't get acess to a lot of "for sale items". I am new to
>the group, and I gather that at least two valuable contributors are
>dealers, which I have no objection to. After all, like it or not, money
>makes the world go 'round. (Love comes second<G>.)
>
>Les Whitaker
>
>[email-masked] wrote in article
><[email-masked]>...
>> is due to raising my hand at an auction. 
>>

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From: "Steven O. Smith" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:32:44 GMT

> sense of humour still intact, unlike some! <phhht>

But Peter, this is one of the well known problems of people interacting
via email. All of the content in a face to face conversation that tells
you it's a joke is missing. This is why email should be clear and
without hidden meanings.

-- 
Steven O. Smith
[email-masked]

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From: Paul Pierce <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:05:35 -0700

Roger Loving wrote:
> .....

I'll go with Roger...  An occassional ad is great.  Our resident machine
dealers (Scott, Jim, Mark, Andy, et.al.) make this a vibrant, viable,
interesting, NG.

-- 
Paul in AJ AZ  NRA Endowment Member

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From: ANDY POPKY <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:03:39 -0500

Dave Ficken wrote:
> 
> In <[email-masked]> John L Ferrell
> <[email-masked]> writes:
> >
> >ANDY POPKY wrote:
> >
> Does this mean that I am free to post stuff for sale too?
> I have been biting my tongue since I joined the news group for fear of
> breaching Netiquette.
> 

no can't post machines only i can
just kidding
sure you can post all you want just ignore 
anything that the den mother says