Subject: Re: !!! Eternal Salvation !!!

From: Jarrod Smith <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 22:19:33 -0800

I spoke to God and he said to leave us alone!!!!

Saved Soul wrote:
> 
> If u want to be saved and have eternal life, first read john 3, 16 and
> then e-mail me for a saving prayer that i can pray with you. Until
> your saved your heading for eternal hell. The Bible says so. All of
> your doing crafts so you wont have to face you're Maker by keeping
> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 09:51:19 +0000

> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

Dear SS,
Excuse me, but I believe that the bible said something about "water to wine".
We make beer.  
You are clearly in the wrong newsgroup. 
Try alt.missionaries.to.lazy.to.walk.around.the.neighborhood.and.
ring.doorbells.com.

Either that or give us the PH and the mineral content of your particular brand 
of holy water.

thanks,
baiz

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From: [email-masked] (Don Reasons)
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:44:05 GMT

>> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!
I was invited to attend and play keyboards at a new church about three
years ago.  After about six months, the pastor wanted to have a visit
with me in his office.  He was really struggling with finding a person
to be the music leader for the church.  

Atour visit, he talked for a while, asked me some questions then told
me something which was really a surprise.   The pastor said he knew my
heart and he knew my spirit and I was "God's man" to be his new music
and worship leader.  He said he wanted me to start immediately and he
would take care of me finantially.  He said he believed in me and I
was the one!

So, I told him I loved God and I told him I was gay.

He then said we should "part as friends" whatever THAT means.  I have
written several letters to him over the past three years but, I
haven't heard a word from my "friend" who said I was "God's man" for
the job.

And they still have virtually no music program.  Too bad for them!

Don Reasons
[email-masked]

Stay tuned for information about the opening of...

-------------->  Don World  <-----------------
	    
     (coming soon to the World Wide Web!)

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From: [email-masked](Neil, Norma Reichline)
Date: 8 Dec 1996 21:32:48 GMT

>> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

Kinda weird about not doing crafts. Jesus was a carpenter...Ah well.
I'm happy for this guy that he feels saved. Now he oughta focus on
getting a life...

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From: Lyn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:09:05 +0100

Saved Soul wrote:
>All of

Idle hands are the devil's workshop...

Lyn

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From: Donald Arnone <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:08:09 -0800

Chris wrote:
> 
> [email-masked] (Saved Soul) wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> >... All of your doing crafts so you wont have to face you're Maker by keeping
> When I was a kid, I remember visiting a neighbor's house and swimming
> in their pool with my family.  In the little changing room near their
> pool they had a sign which said: "We don't swim in your toilet, so
> please don't pee in our pool."
> 
> I spend a lot of time in a religiously oriented newsgroup, and
> consider myself a committed, converted Christian.  I'd be just as
> offended at someone from a craft newsgroup heading on into that
> newsgroup to try to "convert" me to crafts as I was with your post
> here.  There's a time and place for everything, including some decent
> recreation.  We don't mess with your beliefs, so please don't trash
> our recreation, to paraphrase the old swimming pool sign.
> 
> And personally, I'd rather trust His judgement of me than yours any
> day.  My automatic signature block (both parts) below speaks for
> itself particularly well on this issue....
> 
> Chris
> 
> [email-masked]
> 
> Wishing you and yours a joyous
>  Christmas in the true spirit
>         of the season.
> 
> ==============================
> "You can not solve the problem
> with the same kind of thinking
> that has created the problem."
>    (Albert Einstein)
> ==============================The Message is Not the Problem...The Abuse of CROSSPOSTING
is the Problem!!!

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From: Joan and Michael Hawley <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 20:15:03 -0800

> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

Holy Roller:

Do you really think that harassing your fellow human will reserve you a seat in the 
great front row pew in the sky?

Hey, work on you spelling and grammar.  God is in the details, you know.

Joan

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From: [email-masked] (Larry Johnson)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 02:45:33 GMT

>Hey, work on you spelling and grammar.  God is in the details, you know.
                     ~~~~~
>Joan

Now, Joan; let he who has perfect diction cast the first stone....

Larry Johnson - Athens, GA - http://www.netcom.com/~maltster

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From: stardust <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 08:28:27 -0800

No offense meant but most people who have access to a computer have
access to both a Bible (there are such areas online even) and a church..
posting this sort of message on every base is spamming.. and one massage
>from  you will NOT save my soul..last I heard that was between a person
and God..

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From: [email-masked] (Anne Carey)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 13:53:39 GMT

> posting this sort of message on every base is spamming.. and one massage
                                                               ~~~~~~~~~~~
> from you will NOT save my soul..last I heard that was between a person

I don't know...depends on how good the massage is.... :D

Annie

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 04:56:13 GMT

On Sun, 08 Dec 1996 01:12:27 GMT, [email-masked] (Saved Soul)

>you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

I found God in a bottle of homebrew.

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From: Red Gem <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 17:58:21 +0100

> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

Smoke a joint and go in peace,
maybe you have to start to live with humans not with religious ideas..

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From: Edward DiLorenzo <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 14:46:17 -0500

> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

If idle hands are the devil's workshop, folks like you with a keyboard
and internet access are his playground. I believe the Lord wants us to
use our talents. You'd do better to try to create something other than
spam.

LTD

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From: [email-masked] (Saved Soul)
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 01:12:27 GMT

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From: [email-masked](Merrick Huang)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 02:11:45 GMT

>you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

    Looks like you're keeping yourself occupied....
    If I go to hell, I hope I burn well. And I'll see you there.

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From: Jamie Foster <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 08:14:12 -0800

Oh yeah, about 10 posts later, now I remember why I thought moderating
rec.crafts.jewelry was such a good idea!

Jamie
-- 
[email-masked]
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http://www.ccjewelers.com		http://www.clshops.com
580 Cypress #N4, Pismo Beach, CA 93449	P.O. Box 1132, Pismo Beach, CA
93448
(805) 773-0110	FAX (both) 805-773-4288	(805) 773-0101

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From: cindy <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:39:54 -0500

> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

I make wonderful, handmade gifts and "give of myself".  Why don't you
get a life of your own and leave the rest of us alone.  Obviously you
have too much time on your hands if you are hasseling us.  I guess what
they say is true about idyllness and the devils' work.

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From: Lorie <"[email-masked]"@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:27:51 -0500

> The Message is Not the Problem...The Abuse of CROSSPOSTING
> is the Problem!!!

You know, you love yelling at people for "abuse"...yet you have sent me
TWELVE email messages for ONE post because I accidently replied to a
message that had a link in it for to be cross posted.

Talk about calling the kettle black....

I have been on the internet since BEFORE it was even the Internet (Back
in the old Arpanet days), have been "bbsing" for over 15 years, (Back
when people ran their boards off of Atari and Commidore 64 computers)
and I have NEVER seen ANYONE as rude as you.  I can understand your need
to Police the Internet (some people have to have something to do with
their time) but perhaps you need to learn that we ARE dealing with
computers, different servers/services and both computer error and human
error can sometimes cause a violation.  Perhaps those who do it
constantly should be addressed, but to leave daily, abusive email to
people because of ONE mis directed post is immature, and far more
harmfull then someone CrossPosting.  I suggest you and others think
twice before replying to messages in email, and perhaps look at the
HISTORY of the person involved, instead of calling them names,
forwarding messages to the ISP, etc.  Not all of us are as PERFECT as
you, since you obvously have never made a mistake. 

All notes posted to my email will be forwarded to YOUR ISP, with
complaints of abuse.

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From: jim j <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 19:33:23 -0500

Bill Crick wrote:
> brainWashed Mind seems to have forgotten the 11th commandment
> 
> THOU SHALT NOT SPAM!
> 
> I wonder if theses fanatical zealots realize how much damage
> they do to their own cause doing stuff like this!
> 
> Bill Crick
> Brewius, Ergo Sum!

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From: [email-masked] (Bill)
Date: 10 Dec 1996 02:55:27 GMT

>you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

No longer do I drink or do drugs, I stopped hangin w\the wrong crowd,
and I go to Mass every Sunday.

Now I find out that this is work of the Devil and I have to give it
all up.

So whoever wants a Home Shop full of tools and Equipment for FREE.
E-mail me for arangments......

WAIT,    Then Id be killing another soul, Guess I just have to FIRE up
the ol Foundry one more time and melt it all, just to be safe   ;)

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From: [email-masked] (Christopher Wood)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:21:11 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Saved

> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

I believe this is more accurately ETERNAL SPAMATION.

*sigh* I couldn't resist.

-Christopher "Doesn't need saved (or spammed)" Wood

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From: Sally <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:12:50 -0800

For your info, I reported the Salvation Spammer.  His/her server is
taking action.  See below:

Tom Jackiewicz wrote:
>
> We are taking care of this user right now. We do not appreciate spam
> coming from our servers and do whatever we can to stop it. Thank you
> for your email.
>
> On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Sally wrote:
>
> > This has been "spammed" on several newsgroups.
> >
> > Please take action!
> >
>
> --
>
>   Tom Jackiewicz                System Admin/Programmer
>   [email-masked]           GoodNet, http://www.goodnet.com

Sally

Subject: 
        Re: [Fwd: !!! Eternal Salvation !!!] 
   Date: 
        Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:48:18 -0700 (MST) 
  From: 
        Tom Jackiewicz <[email-masked]>
     To: 
        Sally <[email-masked]>

We are taking care of this user right now. We do not appreciate spam
coming from our servers and do whatever we can to stop it. Thank you
for your email.

On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Sally wrote:

> This has been "spammed" on several newsgroups.
>
> Please take action!
>

--

  Tom Jackiewicz                System Admin/Programmer
  [email-masked]           GoodNet, http://www.goodnet.com

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From: Bill Crick <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:58:43 -0500

THOU SHALT NOT SPAM!

Bill Crick
Brewius, Ergo Sum!

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From: [email-masked] (Jens)
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 22:45:25 -0800

As per the original posters ISP in response to my complaint:

"We already took care of him just a few minutes ago (with the first 
complaint). Thank you for the email. We do whatever we can to stop
this garbage."

Hope we can let this thread die now.

Regards

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From: Paul Traynham <[email-masked]>
Date: 12 Dec 1996 21:33:21 GMT

>> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

Hey Red.  Maybe you should go get a decent education before judging our 
hobby.  "Your" implies posessession (not the devil kind).  "You're" is a 
contraction for YOU ARE.

After you get back from 3rd grade,  maybe you can start thinking for 
yourself instead of believing everything you read.  

And don't assume  that just because we enjoy a hobby, we're (note: the 
"we are" contraction) keeping our minds occupied to avoid God.  I often 
thank God for a good beer.

Paul

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From: Holly Stoll <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:03:35 -0600

Tim Robinson wrote:
> 
> In article <[email-masked]>,
> You don't save people by irritating the Hell out of them.
> 
>
Tim, Was the Pun intended. (ROLFLPIMP)

Holly

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From: Holly Stoll <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:04:30 -0600

> you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

According to my office mate, the old bible verse states,

"Idle hands are the devils tools"

Holly

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From: [email-masked] (Lee H. Pappas)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:50:08 -0500

To all:

Please end this thread...your postings are being submitted not just to your
newsgroup, but dozens, if not hundreds of others.

-Lee

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] wrote:

> Anne Carey wrote:
> I wish Christian zealots would get a life somewhere else.
> 
>           Gary Shaffer

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From: mark cleary <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 02:31:28 -0600

Tim Robinson wrote:
> | Tim Robinson                   | Lonely Web page.  Please visit.   |
> | [email-masked]             | http://www.ionet.net/~timtroyr    |
> | "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by |
> | men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding."  L. Brandeis |
> 
> Sorry about the bogus e-mail address.  I get too much e-mail spam.
> Just use the one in the sig.  Brewers, check out
> http://www.ionet.net/~timtroyr/beer
I went to Mass tonight does that count. I had a beer too when I got
home. The priest always test my homebrew I really value his opinion.
Mark

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From: [email-masked] (Jim Waggener)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 00:32:33 GMT

>you're mind occuppied. Turn to the lord Jesus Christ today!

Gee, I wonder how all those great cathedrals got built?
weren't there "craftsmen" building those things?

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From: gshaffer <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 03:51:23 -0500

Gary Shaffer

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From: Bob <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 05:09:25 -0800

> http://www.ionet.net/~timtroyr/beer
After tasting this last batch of bitter ale, I realize, there must be a
god.

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From: Ron Wise <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:02:31 -0500

Paul Traynham wrote:
>Here!, Here!, even monks drink beer!  Heaven forbid that I should indulge in collecting!  Learning to appreciate the beauty and uniqueness of peoples and cultures must surely be a sin of the highest magnitude!  If I burn in hell, will my paper money collection go up in flames?  I guess I better think this through.

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From: "g.j.weinberger" <[email-masked]>
Date: 9 Dec 1996 13:01:39 GMT

What relevance does your idiotic spouting have to stamp collecting? You 
are free to abuse yourself all you like, but leave us in peace.