Article 50 in trial.rec.metalworking:
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+           robotics,rec.aviation.homebuilt,sci.materials,sci.engr,sci.engr.
+           mech
From: Jim Kirkpatrick <jimkirk@corral.uwyo.edu>

Subject: CFV: rec.crafts.metalworking
Followup-To: poster
Organization: uwyo.edu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:23:25 GMT
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This is a Call For Votes (CFV) on creation of the unmoderated newsgroup
rec.crafts.metalworking.  The charter is reproduced below.

To vote FOR the creation of this new newsgroup, send mail to
metalyes@corral.uwyo.edu.  To vote AGAINST the creation of this group,
send mail to metalno@corral.uwyo.edu.  Please send votes *only* to one
of these two addresses, otherwise it will not count.  Do not post your
vote, or send it to my personal mailbox.  The content of the e-mail
ballot is not important, just the address it is sent to.

The voting period will last until 23:59:59 MST, 14-DEC-1992.  Votes
--MORE--(51%)*received* after that date cannot be counted.

Charter
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Proposed Charter -- REC.CRAFTS.METALWORKING

The USENET newsgroup, rec.crafts.metalworking, is a newsgroup which discusses
various aspects of working with metal, such as (but not limited to):

  machining, as on a lathe, milling machine, grinder, etc.;
  numerical control of such machines;
  welding, whether by gas, arc, mig, tig, thermite, or other methods;
  Metal joining, whether welding, brazing, soldering, riveting,
    screwing, folding, etc.  (this section was added during the discussion)
  casting various metals by various methods;
  hardening/tempering various metals;
  blacksmithing/forging;
  spinning and hammer work;
  sheet metal work;
  jewelry-making;
  purchasing and/or reconditioning metalworking tools and machinery;
  interesting projects;
--MORE--(81%)  books on metal technologies and history;

Example areas of interest:

  knife/sword making;
  automotive repair;
  steam engine (model/scale, though full-sized discussions are welcome!);
  art work, such as bronze castings and sculptures;
  gunsmithing;
  toolmaking, such as for woodworking, further metalworking, etc.;

While the bulk of the discussion will probably be directed towards
small-scale "home" shops, industrial/production discussions are also
quite welcome.
-- 
Jim Kirkpatrick
jimkirk@corral.uwyo.edu
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From: Jim Kirkpatrick <jimkirk@corral.uwyo.edu>
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Subject: RESULT: rec.crafts.metalworking passes 337:13
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Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:33:18 -0500
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        FINAL VOTE ACK AND VOTE TALLY

The vote for the creation of rec.crafts.metalworking has passed, with
337 votes in favor and 13 votes against.  Voting ceased at 23:59:59 MST
12/14/92.

     337  yes votes
      13  no  votes
     ----
     350  total
--MORE--(6%)
This meets or exceeds the requirements that more than 100 yes votes be
received than no votes, and that greater than 2/3 of the total votes
are in favor of the new newsgroup.

Next is a 5-day period for any objections to be raised.  If there are
no meaningful objections that would invalidate the vote, the new
newsgroup will be created.

** note that the end of this 5-day period almost exactly matches the
day Dave Lawrence (moderator of news.announce.newgroups) goes on vacation,
so the control message may be delayed until after January 3.  [[I'll
send it on 21 December. -- Dave]]

Thanks to all who voted!

The following 13 "NO" votes were received --

ENGLAND Derek ("england@ecf.toronto.edu")            
Eric J. Olson ("ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu")             
John Kennedy ("johnk@opel.secondsource.COM")         
Stan@cns.com ("Stan@cns.com")                        
brian@audiofax.com ("brian@audiofax.com")            
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From: Jim Kirkpatrick <jimkirk@corral.uwyo.edu>
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+           mech

Subject: RESULT: rec.crafts.metalworking passes 337:13
Supersedes: <1gltgeINNhr7@news.UU.NET>
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Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:10:31 -0500
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        FINAL VOTE ACK AND VOTE TALLY

[[ Moderator's note:  the previous posting of this result, as
<1gltgeINNhr7@news.UU.NET>, was damaged in transit.  This article
should have the correct full listing of 337 yes voters. -- tale ]]

The vote for the creation of rec.crafts.metalworking has passed, with
337 votes in favor and 13 votes against.  Voting ceased at 23:59:59 MST
12/14/92.
--MORE--(5%)
     337  yes votes
      13  no  votes
     ----
     350  total

This meets or exceeds the requirements that more than 100 yes votes be
received than no votes, and that greater than 2/3 of the total votes
are in favor of the new newsgroup.

Next is a 5-day period for any objections to be raised.  If there are
no meaningful objections that would invalidate the vote, the new
newsgroup will be created.

** note that the end of this 5-day period almost exactly matches the
day Dave Lawrence (moderator of news.announce.newgroups) goes on vacation,
so the control message may be delayed until after January 3.  [[ I'll
send it on 21 December. -- tale ]]

Thanks to all who voted!

The following 13 "NO" votes were received --

--MORE--(9%)ENGLAND Derek ("england@ecf.toronto.edu")            
Eric J. Olson ("ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu")             
John Kennedy ("johnk@opel.secondsource.COM")         
Stan@cns.com ("Stan@cns.com")                        
brian@audiofax.com ("brian@audiofax.com")            
cdr@kpc.com ("cdr@kpc.com")                          
emcguire@intellection.com ("emcguire@intellection.com")
hurtta@cc.helsinki.fi ("hurtta@cc.helsinki.fi")      
mcastle@cs.umr.edu ("mcastle@cs.umr.edu")            
mcp@netcom.com ("mcp@netcom.com")                    
mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU ("mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU")    
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu ("plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu")
schrader@kenai.me.iastate.edu ("schrader@kenai.me.iastate.edu")

The following 337 "YES" votes were received --

("leeweyr!bill@nuchat.sccsi.com")
AKARPOWICZ@mta.ca ("AKARPOWICZ@mta.ca")              
ASHBAUGH@ALBERT.PHYSICS.ARIZONA.EDU ("ASHBAUGH@ALBERT.PHYSICS.ARI
AWHICHEL@rp.csiro.au ("AWHICHEL@rp.csiro.au")        
Aladdin's Elmo ("morrow@physics.rice.edu")           
Alan Deacon ("ccaaaxd@ucl.ac.uk")                    
Alex Noordergraaf ("ANoorder_+a_S00101_+lAlex_Noordergraaf+r%AMSW
--MORE--(14%)Alexander EICHENER ("C96@VM.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE")  
Andrew William Jackson ("ajackson@phoenix.Princeton.EDU")
Anthony DeBoer ("adb@geek.ca.geac.com")              
Antonio_DeSimone@ATT.COM ("Antonio_DeSimone@ATT.COM")
BILL PATE, ADMIN. SERVICES, PATE@VXC.UNCWIL.EDU ("PATE@VXC.UNCWIL
Bill Johns ("JOHNSW@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU")             
Bob Johnson ("REJ@PSUVM.PSU.EDU")                    
Bob Wilson ("wilson@math.wisc.edu")                  
Bob.Mastors@Central.Sun.COM ("Bob.Mastors@Central.Sun.COM")
Bryan_Lyles.PARC@xerox.com ("Bryan_Lyles.PARC@xerox.com")
C. Luchini (UIUC High energy physics Dept) ("CBL@UIHEPA.HEP.UIUC.
Charles.K.Scott@Dartmouth.EDU ("Charles.K.Scott@Dartmouth.EDU"@SM
Charlie Rosenberg ("crosenbe@tecnet.me.tufts.edu")   
Chris Daniel ("thalx@wam.umd.edu")                   
Christopher Davis ("ckd@eff.org")                    
D.Jenkins@axion.bt.co.uk ("D.Jenkins@axion.bt.co.uk")
D.W.Wright@bnr.co.uk ("D.W.Wright@bnr.co.uk")        
DAK@UIHEPA.HEP.UIUC.EDU ("DAK@UIHEPA.HEP.UIUC.EDU")  
DBW@kan-dor.tallgrass.com ("DBW@kan-dor.tallgrass.com")
Dale@coyote.cs.wmich.edu ("Dale@coyote.cs.wmich.edu")
DanK ("DRKISD@ritvax.isc.rit.edu")                   
Dave Larsen ("dal@boombox.micro.umn.edu")            
Dave Uebele ("daveu@sco.COM")                        
--MORE--(20%)