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Subject: Vought F-8 Crusader (16 of 18)
Keywords: French Crusader, F-8E(FN)
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In 1962, the French Navy (Marine Nationale) ordered the Vought F-8 
Crusader as a carrier-based air superiority fighter to succeed the 
Aquilon.  It was to serve aboard the new Aeronautique Navale 
(Aeronavale) aircraft carriers *Foch* and *Clemenceau*.  The French 
aviation industry was unable to come up with an acceptable design, so 
the French Navy somewhat reluctantly opted for an American aircraft.  

The French Crusader was designated F-8E(FN), where the FN stood for 
"French Navy".  The Marine Nationale originally planeed to order 40 
single seat F-8E(FN) fighters, plus six TF-8E(FN) two-seaters.  
However, when plans for the development of the two-seat Crusader were 
abandoned, the order was changed to 42 F-8E(FN) single-seaters.  The 
42 F-8E(FN) aircraft were assigned the Bureau of Aeronautics serial 
numbers 151732/151773 for administrative purposes.  

The F-8E(FN) had to be modified so that it could operate safely aboard 
French aircraft carriers, which were somewhat smaller than their 
American counterparts.  In order to reduce the approach speed, the 
maximum angle of incidence of the variable-incidence wing was 
increased from five to seven degrees.  The drooping wing leading edges 
were separated into two sections in order to increase the amount of 
camber that could be achieved when they were extended.  A boundary 
layer control system was added, which blew pressurized air from the 
engine compressor through adjustable air vents that exhausted over the 
trailing edge wing flaps.  The airflow pressure automatically 
increased with the angle of flap deflection.  The maximum angle of 
deflection of the trailing-edge flaps was increased.  The surface area 
of the tailplane was increased.  

The quartet of four 20-mm cannon was retained, as well as the ability 
to carry four fuselage-mounted AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles.  However, 
provision was also made to accommodate the French-built Matra R530 
air-to-air missile, which existed in both infrared and semi-active 
radar homing versions.  One R530 was carried on each side of the fuselage 
on rail launchers.  Often, an infrared-homing R530 would be carried in 
one side of the fuselage, with a radar-homer on the other side.  To 
accommodate the R530 in its radar-homing version, a Magnavox 
AN/APQ-104 radar was fitted, together with a modified AN/AWG-4 fire 
control system.  

F-8D BuNo 147036 was used as the test airframe for the F-8E(FN) and 
flew for the first time on February 27, 1964.  Unfortunately, it 
crashed on April 11, 1964.  The first production F-8E(FN) flew on June 
26, 1964, and it was assigned the task of completing the test program.  

The first French Crusaders arrived at Saint Nazaire on October 5, 
1964.  The first Aeronavale squadron to receive the Crusader was 
Flotille 12F, with Flotille 14F following six months later.  Flotille 
14F was re-equipped with the Super Etendard in 1978, but 14F stood 
down in 1991, leaving 12F to soldier on with the Crusader as the only 
Aeronavale interceptor squadron.  Although a "foreign" aircraft, the 
Crusader was nevertheless highly popular with its French Navy pilots, 

Over the years, the armament of the F-8E(FN) has been through several 
stages of upgrading.  The French Crusader originally carried the Matra 
R530 missile, which existed in both infrared- and semi-active 
radar-homing versions.  The Sidewinder infrared-homing missile was 
still compatible with the F-8E(FN), but it was very rarely carried.  
The enhanced Matra Super 530 was never adopted for the Crusader, since 
the APQ-104 radar was not compatible with it.  In late 1989, the Matra 
R530 was withdrawn from service.  In 1973, the Matra R550 Magic short 
range infrared-homing air-to-air missile was added to the Crusader's 
armament suite.  The all-aspect Magic 2 was made available in 1988, 
and is now the French Crusader's primary missile armament.  

New F-8J wings were installed on French Crusaders in 1969, and from 
1979 onward their Pratt & Whitney J57-P-20A turbojets were fitted with 
new afterburners.  

Aeronavale Crusaders have never seen any combat, although they have 
served in war zones.  In 1983, Flotille 12F flew top cover in 
operations off Lebanon while Super Etendards attacked gun positions in 
retaliation for terrorist attacks on French targets in Beirut.  In 
1987, during the Iran-Iraq war, Crusaders went into the Persian Gulf 
aboard the *Clemenceau* in an international effort to protect shipping 
against attacks by Iranian speedboats.  Several interceptions of 
Iranian aircraft were made, although there was no actual combat.  

The Crusader has been serving with the French Navy for nearly thirty 
years, and is by now quite long in the tooth.  It has become 
increasingly difficult to keep the aircraft operational.  Since the 
Crusader has been long out of production, the French Navy has to rely 
on the boneyards of AMARC at Davis-Monthan AFB in Arizona for spare 
parts, as well as having to manufacture a small number of spare parts 
itself.  

Currently, the Crusader is scheduled to be replaced aboard French 
aircraft carriers by the Dassault Rafale M, but the first of these 
aircraft will not be available until 1997 and will not be ready for 
sea duty until 1998 at the earliest.  In the meantime, the Crusader 
will have to fill in as the Aeronavale's only carrier-based 
interceptor.  

In order to make the French Crusader a viable interceptor until the 
end of the century, the surviving F-8E(FN)s were scheduled to go 
through an extensive upgrade to increase their service life.  As part 
of the upgrade, a new zero-zero capable Martin-Baker ejector seat was 
to be installed, and the airframe was to be reinforced and 
strengthened.  The wiring and the hydraulic system were to be 
replaced.  The cockpit instruments were to be rearranged and and there 
was to be a new avionics suite fitted which included a radar 
altimeter, IFF, ILS, and VOR.  The gyroscopic navigation system of the 
Mirage F1 was to be adopted.  A Thomson-CSF Sherloc radar warning 
receiver was to be mounted in a vertical fin extension.  The first 
upgraded F-8E(FN) was completed in June of 1992, and by September 
1994, 12 aircraft had been modified.  The upgrade program should be 
completed by the end of 1995.  

151732/151773 	Vought F-8E(FN) Crusader 

Sources: 

    Aeronavale Crusaders, Eric Stijer, Air International, Vol 45 No 4. 
    p192, 1993.  

    Vought F-8 Crusader, Peter Mersky, Osprey, 1981.

    The Aircraft of the World, William Green and Gerald Pollinger,
    Doubleday, 1965.

    The American Fighter, Enzo Angelucci and Peter Bowers, Orion, 1987.

    United States Navy Aircraft Since 1911, Gordon Swanborough and
    Peter M. Bowers, Smithsonian, 1989.

    Ray Wagner, American Combat Planes, Third Enlarged Edition,
    Doubleday, 1982.

    The World's Fighting Planes, William Green, Doubleday, 1968.

    The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Aircraft Armament, Bill Gunston,
    Orion, 1988.

Joe Baugher			**************************************
AT&T Bell Laboratories		*  "Round up the usual suspects."    *
1000 E. Warrenville Road	**************************************
P. O. Box 3013
Naperville, Illinois 60566-7013		
(708) 713 4548				
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jfb@uscbu.ih.att.com


From nntpa!att.com!Joseph.F.Baugher Thu Sep 22 12:22:41 1994
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From: Joseph.F.Baugher@att.com
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Subject: New Fighter Series--Vought F-8 Crusader (16 of 18)
Keywords: French Crusader, F-8E(FN)
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>From Joseph.F.Baugher@att.com

In 1962, the French Navy (Marine Nationale) ordered the Vought F-8 
Crusader as a carrier-based air superiority fighter to succeed the 
Aquilon.  It was to serve aboard the new Aeronautique Navale 
(Aeronavale) aircraft carriers *Foch* and *Clemenceau*.  The French 
aviation industry was unable to come up with an acceptable design, so 
the French Navy somewhat reluctantly opted for an American aircraft.  

The French Crusader was designated F-8E(FN), where the FN stood for 
"French Navy".  The Marine Nationale originally planeed to order 40 
single seat F-8E(FN) fighters, plus six TF-8E(FN) two-seaters.  
However, when plans for the development of the two-seat Crusader were 
abandoned, the order was changed to 42 F-8E(FN) single-seaters.  The 
42 F-8E(FN) aircraft were assigned the Bureau of Aeronautics serial 
numbers 151732/151773 for administrative purposes.  

The F-8E(FN) had to be modified so that it could operate safely aboard 
French aircraft carriers, which were somewhat smaller than their 
American counterparts.  In order to reduce the approach speed, the 
maximum angle of incidence of the variable-incidence wing was 
increased from five to seven degrees.  The drooping wing leading edges 
were separated into two sections in order to increase the amount of 
camber that could be achieved when they were extended.  A boundary 
layer control system was added, which blew pressurized air from the 
engine compressor through adjustable air vents that exhausted over the 
trailing edge wing flaps.  The airflow pressure automatically 
increased with the angle of flap deflection.  The maximum angle of 
deflection of the trailing-edge flaps was increased.  The surface area 
of the tailplane was increased.  

The quartet of four 20-mm cannon was retained, as well as the ability 
to carry four fuselage-mounted AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles.  However, 
provision was also made to accommodate the French-built Matra R530 
air-to-air missile, which existed in both infrared and semi-active 
radar homing versions.  One R530 was carried on each side of the fuselage 
on rail launchers.  Often, an infrared-homing R530 would be carried in 
one side of the fuselage, with a radar-homer on the other side.  To 
accommodate the R530 in its radar-homing version, a Magnavox 
AN/APQ-104 radar was fitted, together with a modified AN/AWG-4 fire 
control system.  

F-8D BuNo 147036 was used as the test airframe for the F-8E(FN) and 
flew for the first time on February 27, 1964.  Unfortunately, it 
crashed on April 11, 1964.  The first production F-8E(FN) flew on June 
26, 1964, and it was assigned the task of completing the test program.  

The first French Crusaders arrived at Saint Nazaire on October 5, 
1964.  The first Aeronavale squadron to receive the Crusader was 
Flotille 12F, with Flotille 14F following six months later.  Flotille 
14F was re-equipped with the Super Etendard in 1978, but 14F stood 
down in 1991, leaving 12F to soldier on with the Crusader as the only 
Aeronavale interceptor squadron.  Although a "foreign" aircraft, the 
Crusader was nevertheless highly popular with its French Navy pilots, 

Over the years, the armament of the F-8E(FN) has been through several 
stages of upgrading.  The French Crusader originally carried the Matra 
R530 missile, which existed in both infrared- and semi-active 
radar-homing versions.  The Sidewinder infrared-homing missile was 
still compatible with the F-8E(FN), but it was very rarely carried.  
The enhanced Matra Super 530 was never adopted for the Crusader, since 
the APQ-104 radar was not compatible with it.  In late 1989, the Matra 
R530 was withdrawn from service.  In 1973, the Matra R550 Magic short 
range infrared-homing air-to-air missile was added to the Crusader's 
armament suite.  The all-aspect Magic 2 was made available in 1988, 
and is now the French Crusader's primary missile armament.  

New F-8J wings were installed on French Crusaders in 1969, and from 
1979 onward their Pratt & Whitney J57-P-20A turbojets were fitted with 
new afterburners.  

Aeronavale Crusaders have never seen any combat, although they have 
served in war zones.  In 1983, Flotille 12F flew top cover in 
operations off Lebanon while Super Etendards attacked gun positions in 
retaliation for terrorist attacks on French targets in Beirut.  In 
1987, during the Iran-Iraq war, Crusaders went into the Persian Gulf 
aboard the *Clemenceau* in an international effort to protect shipping 
against attacks by Iranian speedboats.  Several interceptions of 
Iranian aircraft were made, although there was no actual combat.  

The Crusader has been serving with the French Navy for nearly thirty 
years, and is by now quite long in the tooth.  It has become 
increasingly difficult to keep the aircraft operational.  Since the 
Crusader has been long out of production, the French Navy has to rely 
on the boneyards of AMARC at Davis-Monthan AFB in Arizona for spare 
parts, as well as having to manufacture a small number of spare parts 
itself.  

Currently, the Crusader is scheduled to be replaced aboard French 
aircraft carriers by the Dassault Rafale M, but the first of these 
aircraft will not be available until 1997 and will not be ready for 
sea duty until 1998 at the earliest.  In the meantime, the Crusader 
will have to fill in as the Aeronavale's only carrier-based 
interceptor.  

In order to make the French Crusader a viable interceptor until the 
end of the century, the surviving F-8E(FN)s were scheduled to go 
through an extensive upgrade to increase their service life.  As part 
of the upgrade, a new zero-zero capable Martin-Baker ejector seat was 
to be installed, and the airframe was to be reinforced and 
strengthened.  The wiring and the hydraulic system were to be 
replaced.  The cockpit instruments were to be rearranged and and there 
was to be a new avionics suite fitted which included a radar 
altimeter, IFF, ILS, and VOR.  The gyroscopic navigation system of the 
Mirage F1 was to be adopted.  A Thomson-CSF Sherloc radar warning 
receiver was to be mounted in a vertical fin extension.  The first 
upgraded F-8E(FN) was completed in June of 1992, and by September 
1994, 12 aircraft had been modified.  The upgrade program should be 
completed by the end of 1995.  

151732/151773 	Vought F-8E(FN) Crusader 

Sources: 

    Aeronavale Crusaders, Eric Stijer, Air International, Vol 45 No 4. 
    p192, 1993.  

    Vought F-8 Crusader, Peter Mersky, Osprey, 1981.

    The Aircraft of the World, William Green and Gerald Pollinger,
    Doubleday, 1965.

    The American Fighter, Enzo Angelucci and Peter Bowers, Orion, 1987.

    United States Navy Aircraft Since 1911, Gordon Swanborough and
    Peter M. Bowers, Smithsonian, 1989.

    Ray Wagner, American Combat Planes, Third Enlarged Edition,
    Doubleday, 1982.

    The World's Fighting Planes, William Green, Doubleday, 1968.

    The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Aircraft Armament, Bill Gunston,
    Orion, 1988.

Joe Baugher			**************************************
AT&T Bell Laboratories		*  "Round up the usual suspects."    *
1000 E. Warrenville Road	**************************************
P. O. Box 3013
Naperville, Illinois 60566-7013		
(708) 713 4548				
uscbu!jfb                     Who, me?  Speak for AT&T?  Surely you jest!	
jfb@uscbu.ih.att.com




