Volume 2, Number 12 3 December 1988 +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | | | NN NN AAAA MM MM VV VV EEEEEEE TTTTTTTT | | NNN NN AA AA MMM MMM VV VV EE TT | | NN N NN AA AA MM M M MM VV VV EE TT | | NN N NN AA AA MM M MM VV VV EE TT | | NN N NN AAAAAAAA MM MM VV VV EEEEE TT | | NN N NN AA AA MM MM VV VV EE TT | | NN NNN AA AA MM MM V V EE TT | | NN NN AA AA MM MM VVV EEEEEEE TT | | | | The International Newsletter for Vietnam Veterans | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Editor in Chief: Todd Looney Assistant Editor: G. Joseph Peck Nam Vet is a special newsletter dedicated to Vietnam Veterans around the world, and provided electronically as a service to participants in the International Vietnam Veterans' Echo Conference (IVVEC) available on many FidoNet (tm) bulletin boards in the U.S., Europe, Canada, and Australia. Not all of the articles appearing in NAM VET are written by participants in the IVVEC, but the NAM VET is very much an electronic newsletter by, of, and for Vietnam veterans, their friends, wives, lovers, as well as all other interested military veterans and non-veterans. Articles from anyone wishing to express themselves about Viet Nam or related experiences are always welcome. We openly invite all to submit their writings for publication to the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla (143/27), the VETlink #1 (321/203), or to any node carrying the IVVEC whose sysop can forward your work from there. NAM VET is published monthly by the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla. The views expressed are not necessarily those of the NAM VET, it's staff or volunteers. This newsletter is made up of articles from a wide variety of sources. We are not responsible for the content of this information nor are any of the above mentioned parties. Duplication and/or distribution is permitted for non-commercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact Todd Looney by FidoNet electronic mail at 1:143/27, or in writing at: VIETNAM VETERANS VALHALLA, 28 CECIL AVENUE, SUITE 179, SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA, 95128, ATTN: NAM VET NEWSLETTER. NamNews 2-12 3 Dec 1988 Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 That Time of Year Again .................................. 1 2. SERVICES ................................................. 3 Welcome Home Vet Group ................................... 3 Kids & Computers Project ................................. 4 For Veterans ONLY! ........................................ 5 3. MEMORY ................................................... 9 Vietnam era service, A personal view ..................... 9 Missing Men .............................................. 17 Isn't there ANYTHING **ANYONE** can do? .................. 18 4. GENERAL .................................................. 19 Between The Lines ........................................ 19 Kids & Computers Project ................................. 20 VETERANS DAY 1988 - It Ain't What It Used To Be! ......... 25 5. WANTED ................................................... 27 Free WALL Rubbings ....................................... 27 NamNews 2-12 Page 1 3 Dec 1988 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= That Time of Year Again By Todd Looney Vietnam Veterans Valhalla 1:143/27 Well gang, it's that time of year again. Yep, that dreaded holiday season. Can you say that? H-o-l-i-d-a-y-s? I knew you could. Yep, many Vietnam veterans look upon this time of year with dread because it brings back a lot of bad memories of being away from home while everyone at home was celebrating life. Even I have a little bout with depression at this time of year. But it doesn't have to be that way. Granted, this is the season of giving, but that doesn't mean material things. Give of yourself a little. Volunteer to help out a vet in need somewhere or get involved in some other community service which you are partial to. It will make you feel better in the long run I guarantee! I've recently taken on the task of trying to make the season a little more enjoyable for our servicemen and women overseas. Yep, once again, we will join forces with the "America Remembers" campaign, whose chairman is still Donald P Grimes. Last year, Operation Dear Abby III sent an estimated 3 million pieces of mail to our servicemen and woman in South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, Iceland, and Europe, as well as those serving in the Mediterranean and Indian oceans. Tons of letters and packages were dropped from helicopters to aircraft carriers to cheer those who had been deployed for weeks -- some for months. Schoolteachers in the United States and Canada made class projects of writing our servicemen and women who would be away from their families during the holidays. People sent cookies, brownies, and fruitcakes. The elderly residents of the Jewish Center for the Aged in St Louis, Mo, baked 21 dozen kosher cookies, under strict Rabbinical supervision. They received hundreds of heart-warming pictures of men and women in uniform -- jubilant as they eagerly sorted through thousands of letters, searching for some from their home states. Veterans of previous wars wrote to give our young servicemen and women a lift because they remember how rough it was to be away from home during the holidays. Romances blossomed -- and some weddings took place following long pen-pal relationships. This year, more than 100,000 troops will participate in the program. Please join me in this campaign to let them know that you love and appreciate them. The FidoNet system operators of Oklahoma City and the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla are joining this campaign to express our appreciation of the lonely servicemen and women who will be away from their friends and families this holiday season. We will print, and mail, all e-mail messages sent to us for NamNews 2-12 Page 2 3 Dec 1988 Operation Dear Abby. Messages must be NO LONGER THAN *60* lines, and should include a return address in the message so we can indicate on the envelopes where they originated. Send the messages to "America Remembers" at node 1:143/27. The SUBJECT line should indicate the DESTINATION. Chose ONE of the following as the subject: Germany Philippines USS Nimitz USS Constellation Okinawa Iceland Korea I'm sure that many of you have been away from home during the holidays, and know how lonely and depressing it can be. Let's get together and show the world what VETNet is good for! Besides just sending the letters, we are also going to approach computer stores in the big shopping malls, and ask them to put up a table with a few Pc's. Then we'll solicit the Xmas shoppers to send free FidoNet telegrams to the lonely servicemen and women defending our nation's freedom from the ever-present commie menace. :-) I think they'll do it, because we'll also approach the TV/radio stations and newspapers for coverage. You can do this, too. Just send all the messages you collect to me, and I'll process them. Until next month.... Show a vet you care! ----------------------------------------------------------------- NamNews 2-12 Page 3 3 Dec 1988 ================================================================= VETERAN SERVICES ================================================================= Welcome Home Vet Group By Todd Looney Vietnam Veterans Valhalla 1:143/27 A new support group for Vietnam veterans has been started in San Jose, California called "Welcome Home Vet" by Leo Healey and Bobby Butrica. The group meets every Thursday evening from 8pm to 9pm at the Cambrian School in Hacienda-Campbell, California, Room 9. This is a long overdue service for Vietnam veterans who are having a problem with alcohol and want the support of their comrades to get them through rough times. The meetings are open to men and women alike, and is the first of it's kind in the nation to the best of our knowledge. The groups motto, "We care" is emphasized by their willingness to help, honest approach to support, and open mindedness in their efforts to help their brother and sister Vietnam veterans. For further information, contact: Leo Healey 408-298-4916 or Bobby Butrica 408-559-9526 Bring - A - Vet! NamNews 2-12 Page 4 3 Dec 1988 KidsNews Project Claude F. Witherspoon Fido 1:100/525 THANKSGIVING DAY MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT ================================================================= Thanksgiving is a time when we surround ourselves with family and friends and acknowledge God's blessings upon us and upon our nation in the year past. It is a truly American holiday, rooted in our earliest history and founded on our national sense of dependence on the guidance of divine providence. Our ancestors have faced Thanksgiving Day in times of danger and want - in the harsh winters and rough conditions of our early eastern settlements, amidst the privations of wartime, in the grip of economic depression. Whatever the challenge, these Americans welcomed without fail the coming of the day - for on it they joined together as communities and as a people to pay tribute to the generous God who is the father of our freedoms and the hope of our future. This spirit of thanksgiving has always had special meaning for the members of our Armed Forces. For you, sacrifice and separation from loved ones are routine facts of life. You give up many daily comforts, and face many daily dangers, so that your fellow citizens and citizens of allied nations can live with peace and without fear. As you spend another holiday guarding our freedoms, the thoughts of all Americans are with you. Our thanks, among the many we offer today, go with you for everything you have done and will do to keep this Nation strong and at peace. Nancy and I wish you and your families a bountiful and joyous Thanksgiving. God bless you. /s Ronald Reagan President In addition to the above, we at KidsNews realize through experience, the dedication involved in keeping this nation at peace. You see, we have a soldier for a father which was recently separated from us with a tour in Turkey. Even if this separation and sacrifice is an accepted way of life for our family, it still hurts, particularly around the holiday season. Please say a prayer for our armed forces when you are enjoying the fruits of their labor. Happy Thanksgiving from KidsNews! NamNews 2-12 Page 5 3 Dec 1988 F O R V E T E R A N S O N L Y A new television national news magazine, produced exclusively for America's veterans, FOR VETERANS ONLY, is televised each week on the following public tel- evision stations. Consult your local TV listings for day and time. LOCATION TV STATION CHANNEL # ---------------------------------------------------------- Alaska Bethel KYUK 4 Fairbanks KUAC 9 California Fresno KMTF 18 Redding KIXE 9 Rohnert Park KRCB 22 San Bernadino KVCR 24 San Francisco KQEC 32 San Mateo KCSM 60 Colorado Denver KRMA 6 Denver KBDI 12 Pueblo KTSC 8 District of Columbia Washington WHMM 32 Florida Ft. Meyers WSFP 30 Tallahassee WFSU 11 Tampa WUSF 16 Georgia Atlanta WPBA 30 Idaho Boise KAID 4 Moscow KUID 12 Pocatello KISU 10 Illinois Carbondale WSIU 8 Charleston WEIU 51 Moline WQPT 24 Olney WUSI 16 Peoria WTVP 47 Indiana Indianapolis WFYI 20 Merrillville WYIN 56 Vincennes WVUT 22 Kentucky Ashland WKAS 25 Bowling Green WKGB 53 Covington WCVN 54 Elizabethtown WKZT 23 Hazard WKHA 35 Lexington WKLE 46 NamNews 2-12 Page 6 3 Dec 1988 Louisville WKMJ 68 Louisville WKPC 15 Madisonville WKMA 35 Morehead WKMR 38 Murray WKMU 21 Owensboro WKOH 31 Owenton WKON 52 Paducah WKPD 29 Pikeville WKPI 22 Somerset WKSO 29 Louisiana New Orleans WLAE 32 Maine Augusta WCBB 10 Bangor WMEB 12 Biddford-Portland WMEA 26 Calais WMED 13 Presque Isle WMEM 10 Michigan Bad Axe WUCX 35 Flint WFUM 28 University Center WUCM 19 Minnesota Appleton KWCM 10 Austin KSMQ 15 Bemidji KAWE 9 Brainerd KAWB 22 Duluth WDSE 8 Mississippi Biloxi WMAH 19 Booneville WMAE 12 Bude WMAU 17 Greenville WMAO 23 Jackson WMAA 29 Jackson WMAB 2 Meridian WMAW 14 Oxford WMAV 18 Missouri Joplin KOZJ 26 Springfield KOZK 21 Montana Bozeman KUSM 9 Nevada Las Vegas KLVX 10 Reno KNPB 5 Ohio Cincinnati WCET 48 Kent WNEO 45 Kent WEAO 49 Oklahoma Cheyenne KWET 12 Eufala KOET 3 Oklahoma City KETA 13 Tulsa KOED 11 Oregon Medford KSYS 8 NamNews 2-12 Page 7 3 Dec 1988 Pennsylvania Bethlehem WLVT 39 Rhode Island Providence WSBE 36 South Carolina Allendale WEBA 14 Beaufort WJWJ 16 Charleston WITV 7 Columbia WRLK 35 Conway WHMC 23 Florence WJPM 33 Greenville WNTV 29 Greenwood WNEH 38 Rock Hill WNSC 30 Spartanburg WRET 49 Sumter WRJA 27 South Dakota Aberdeen KDSD 16 Brookings KESD 8 Eagle Butte KPSD 13 Lowry KQSD 11 Martin KZSD 8 Pierre KTSD 10 Rapid City KBHE 9 Vermillion KUSD 2 Tennessee Knoxville WSJK 2 Martin WLJT 11 Texas College Station KAMU 15 El Paso KCOS 13 Harlingen KMBH 60 Killeen KNCT 46 Lubbock KTXT 5 Odessa KOCV 36 Utah Provo KBYU 11 Salt Lake City KUED 7 Virginia Fairfax WNVC 56 Marion WMSY 52 Norton WSBN 47 Richmond WCVW 57 Roanoke WBRA 15 Washington Tacoma KTPS 28 West Virginia Beckley WSWP 9 Huntington WPBY 33 Morgantown WNPB 24 Wisconsin Madison WHA 33 Milwaukee WMVS 10 Wyoming Riverton KCWC 4 NamNews 2-12 Page 8 3 Dec 1988 The National Veterans TV Network James P. Clay, Executive Producer 7505 Sussex Drive Florence, KY 41042 (606) 283-1885 This EBBS Listing Courtesy of the ARMED FORCES REUNION BBS (704) 667-8021 On line 24 hours a day. 1200/2400 baud. 8/N/1 NamNews 2-12 Page 9 3 Dec 1988 ================================================================= MEMORIES ================================================================= VIETNAM ERA SERVICE, A PERSONAL VIEW, #6 of a series - Chuck Sterling - Las Cruces, NM - NASW, Las Cruces, NM (Opus 305/101) This is the sixth of a series of essays documenting my experiences and recollections while in the U.S. Navy during the period from early 1967 until my release from active duty in mid 1969. The previous installment contained excerpts from letters I wrote home from the Naval Construction Battalion Center at Port Hueneme, California. These were written while at Davisville, Rhode Island, waiting for Mobile Construction Battalion Forty to be deployed to Phu Bai, Vietnam. July 24, 1968 Dear Mom and Dad, Well, so ends my first day. Tomorrow I start working again. I haven't seen anybody I know, but I probably will before tomorrow is finished. I was thinking about the car, Pop. That sure was an expensive mistake, my driving it out here. The rod must have come apart right in the middle. It must have broken the water jacket, too, because of the water in the oil. Anyway, the car's gone. I'm running a little low on cash, but I'll get by until I get paid. That may be as early as tomorrow, I hope. Guess I'll get some sleep, and start off tomorrow right. I'll send my address as soon as I get one. Love, Chuck July 31, 1968 Dear Folks, The 24th I started checking into MCB 40. They issued greens, boots, etc., so now I look like a NamNews 2-12 Page 10 3 Dec 1988 Seabee as well as feel like one. I've finally gotten settled pretty well, here. I'm back to two meals a day. I still don't have any appetite for the third one. I turned in the E-4 correspondence course today, and if everything works out O.K. I'll be able to take tests the second and sixth of August. If I pass, I'll be E-4 in October. Next week, I suppose I'll be in military training, but that's not definite. Love, Chuck August 5, 1968 Dear Folks, Well, I had another misfortune today. I had by billfold stolen, or at least borrowed temporarily. I haven't gotten any of the papers back. It only had ten dollars in it, so I'm not too worried about it. Need a chow pass for tomorrow morning... Tomorrow I start military training at Camp Fogarty. It'll last three weeks, but we come back here on the weekends. I just hope I can make E-4 really soon. If I do, I may get E-5 before I get back from Vietnam, and that would mean about $500 per month while I'm overseas. Good news: I may not have to spend the entire two years on active duty. When the battalion gets ready to leave next year (after I've already gone once), I'll only have a few months left, so they may let me out six or eight months early so they don't have to pay me to sit around and do nothing, which is what we do here in the states. Tuesday I take the professional test for equipment operator. I got the highest grade on the leadership test, 79%, when I took it Friday. Guess I'd better take a shower. I have to get up at 4:00 Monday morning for training. I'll be sending my dungarees home. I won't be needing them for the rest of the time here, and they're taking up needed space. Somehow, this big locker doesn't have as much room as the small one at Port Hueneme. NamNews 2-12 Page 11 3 Dec 1988 Love, Chuck August 9, 1968 Dear Folks, I got my billfold back, minus the ten dollars. I was dropped from military training on Tuesday. I had to leave early to take the E-4 professional exam, and they said I would miss too much class, and will have to take it over. I've put in for blasting school in Port Hueneme in early September. Yesterday I was transferred temporarily to transportation. I'm going to be a bus driver for a while. I passed the license exam yesterday. I work 24 hours on, 24 hours off. I have one three day weekend on, and have the next one off. The day starts and ends at 4:00 a.m. The hours are goofy, but the work is easy. I have three days off this weekend, but I can't afford any money to do anything. Exactly opposite, next weekend I get paid, but I work three days. Love, Chuck August 18, 1968 Dear Folks, Everything's all right here. I haven't heard about the professional exam, and I won't find out until November when the advancement comes, if it comes. Love, Chuck August 31, 1968 Dear Folks, I had to go up past Boston today, to a hospital at Chelsea, Mass. Pretty nice trip. I'll let you know about my leave as soon as I get any word back on it. Love, Chuck September 8, 1968 NamNews 2-12 Page 12 3 Dec 1988 Dear Folks, Well, I got my contact lens. My pool game has improved. I'll get military training in early October. Only selected personnel get disaster recovery. I've put in for assignment to field communications, and I think I'll get it. I hope so. Love, Chuck NamNews 2-12 Page 13 3 Dec 1988 September 13, 1968 Dear Folks, It's about 8:00 a.m., and I've been 'working' for four hours now. I'm in the base taxi until 11:00 a.m., then I take a couple of guys to Chelsea to the hospital. That's a pretty good drive - quite long and all good roads. I think it's about ninety miles one way. The only bad thing is the rush hour traffic in Boston. I'll be working in field communications overseas. My request was approved, and I'm waiting for some word, now. I'll probably go to a special school during military training next month. I have some running around the base to do now, so I'll close. Love, Chuck October 16, 1968 Dear Folks, Well, I hope you're enjoying your vacation - mine's over. I should start working in another month or two, when we go to Nam. Good news. I made E-4. I didn't make it by much, only .02 points, but it still counts. I'll be advanced in December. That will make the difference between being very broke and almost broke. I thought for a while that I would get to fire the M-16 this week, but I guess Mr. Lee is going to leave me on the switchboard until the last week of training. Everybody goes out in the field, then. I'll be standing radio watches both here and overseas, which is a lot better than going on patrols and getting shot at. One consolation is that Camp Campbell hasn't been hit since July, and with the so called winter coming on, we may have it pretty easy. Love, Chuck October 25, 1968 Dear Folks, I leave Saturday for Camp LeJuene and electronics and communication school. I'm going to NamNews 2-12 Page 14 3 Dec 1988 get my hooks on some good manuals so I can be competent in repairing the small radios. I'll be working for the electronics technicians, rather than the radioman. That means I may spend quite a bit of time in the shop. All us communications men live in a hut near the air conditioned radio room. We should be able to get hold of an air conditioner for our hut, too. Love, Chuck October 27, 1968 Dear Folks, It's about 1:00 Sunday, and I'm lying in my peace-corps rejected bunk at Camp LeJuene, NC. I've had my first meal here, and I'm glad I'm in the Seabees. I can't say much about this place, except that it's got some pretty scenery. I haven't heard anything about my leave, and I won't until I get back to Davisville. This would make three of my chits that have been lost. I'm getting sick of it. I'm going to cut this short, as I have to help clean up this place for a few minutes. Love, Chuck November 3, 1968 Dear Folks, One week left at Camp LeJuene, then maybe I'll get some leave. This communications school is a farce. We've been going to school about four or five hours each day, and are being taught nothing. I found out a little about Camp Campbell at Phu Bai. There are about 50,000 men there, of which the majority are Marines, many are Soldiers, a few are Seabees, and very few are Air Force. In the communication hut, we'll have mortar pits right by our racks, under trap doors, so we can get to them in about two seconds. The command post is about ten feet underground. Pretty solid. Charlie has left Phu Bai alone since July. I've been told that I'll NamNews 2-12 Page 15 3 Dec 1988 be issued a .45 in lieu of an M-16. Love, Chuck November 9, 1968 Dear Folks, Today begins my last uneventful weekend at Camp LeJuene. It looks like I may go on leave this week, but who knows? I better go to evening chow, so I'll close now. Maybe I'll be in a better mood tomorrow or so. Love, Chuck November 26, 1968 Dear Folks, Just a quick note to let you know I made it O.K., although a little later than I expected. I'm back at transportation for the next few weeks, I hope. I had to cut some corners to get there, though. There's not much else to say right now, except I'm darn glad I went on leave. It was great to spend a week around home. Love, Chuck December 3, 1968 Dear Folks, So begins another dreary day at Davisville. I don't have anything important to say, so I'm just writing to keep in touch. I'll be sending a box with a few uniforms home this week. I only want one each of the dress uniforms, as I'll probably only wear them on R&R. I'll write once more, at least, before I leave the states. Anytime now, you can start using the FPO address. It will speed up overseas mail, but may slow it down stateside. NamNews 2-12 Page 16 3 Dec 1988 Love, Chuck If I wrote another letter before leaving for Phu Bai, it has been lost over the years. It's clear that I had little understanding of what was going on in Vietnam, or why Americans were being sent there. There was very little curiousity on my part as to what was going on far from me. In editing these letters, I've included every reference to military service and to Vietnam. The fact that there are so very few is pertinent. I left Davisville, Rhode Island, for Phu Bai, Republic of Vietnam, on December 13, 1968, via Anchorage, Yokota, and Da Nang. The final installment on "letters home" will contain bits and pieces from letters I wrote while in country. NamNews 2-12 Page 17 3 Dec 1988 MISSING MEN By: Kim Shortall Ingramport, Nova Scotia The following messages are excerpts from the VETERANS' NEWSLETTER, an inhouse publication of U S WEST (formerly Northwestern Bell) Long ago, the people say The world was peaceful every day. People passed each other by And never told a single lie. Unless, of course, the time did come, When soldiers marched by playing drum. Then people gathered around. And never made a single sound. The mothers held their children tight, For they were overcome by fright, The soldiers stopped Their drumming then, And read the names of missing men. Some families were relieved to say. That God was with them on that day, But others turned away in sorrow, Knowing only that tomorrow, Sons of some husbands and wives, Would also lose their precious lives, And soldiers would come back again, To read the names of missing men. NamNews 2-12 Page 18 3 Dec 1988 Isn't there ANYTHING **ANYONE** can do? Alan C. Harnack 199th Light Infantry Brigade From VVA Chapter 362 Cadillac, MI Chapter Newsletter >>>>>>> P.O.W. - M.I.A. <<<<<<< Doesn't Anybody Care About Me? Hear me, help me, Uncle Sam. I'm a prisoner of war in Vietnam. I came to serve my blessed land. Now I'm confused on where I stand. They tell me that the war is through. But I have yet to see the proof. The man by the door still has a gun. And I have yet to see the sun. I've been here for eighteen years. My eyes are wet from lonely tears. I pray some day that I may see My lovely wife and my family. Leeches live upon my skin, Parasites down deep within. Mosquitoes land upon my face. I've got to get out of this place! Men have died since I've been here. I feel my number's getting near. My vision's dim, it's hard to see. Doesn't anybody care about me? NamNews 2-12 Page 19 3 Dec 1988 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= At the Vietnam Veterans Memorial: Between the Lines Submitted by: Alex Humphrey > Eugene E. Grollmes < Depending on the date of death -- Their names are listed...Fulton... Jackson...Nottingham...O'Rourke... In polished black granite from Bangalore -- row upon row -- Forever in honor of those who Died in the rice paddies, jungles, Mountains, fields: oh, they are Already beyond the confines of Time: yet they are present in the Hush of the valley -- watched Over by comrades in bronze -- On a nearby ridge looking down at The Wall -- almost in disbelief At the number of dead -- can They all be dead?...Pritchard... Randall...Sheridan...Wolf...?"Yes," The Wall answers...and answers. Yes! NamNews 2-12 Page 20 3 Dec 1988 KidsNews Project Claude F. Witherspoon Fido 1:100/525 ============================================================ GEORGE WASHINGTON ============================================================ Among the Founding Fathers, the man who presided over the Constitutional Convention most clearly embodies the classic concept of the soldier-statesman. Just as George Washington was the architect of victory in the Revolution, so too, as the first President, he was a key figure in establishing essential political precedents to ensure the success of the new Republic. even to his contemporaries, Washington seemed larger than life. possessed of an extraordinary strength of character and a wealth of public virtues, he exhibited an integrity, self-discipline, and devotion to duty that made him the natural leader in the task of nation building. Rising above the interests of class and section, Washington made a strong, viable union his goal. In a very real sense, he personified the emerging spirit of nationhood in the newly independent colonies. His support for a strong central government undoubtedly reflected his military experience, both as an officer in the Virginia militia and as the commanding general of the Continental Army. Indeed, the thirteen years that Washington spent on active service-more than a quarter of his adult life-were a singular devotion to public duty by a prosperous, eighteenth-century landowner. The practical experiences provided by this lengthy military career furnished Washington with a sure grasp of the political, economic, and military advantages to be gained from an effective central government. His unwavering support of this concept, and his understanding of the importance of political compromise, were essential to the success of the Constitutional Convention. THE PATRIOT: A younger son in a family of the landed gentry, Washington appeared destined by birth and education to a career as farmer and land surveyor. But the death of his older brother in 1752 abruptly changed his life. It opened the way to his obtaining Mount Vernon, a large plantation on the Potomac, and to his succeeding his brother as one of Virginia's four adjutants responsible for militia training. Sworn in as a major of the militia in February 1753, at the age of 21, he volunteered for active duty some ten months later. Washington entered military service just as the lengthy rivalry for empire between England and France was reaching its climax in America. If the colonists had appeared indifferent to some of the larger aspects of this conflict between traditional European enemies, their desire for expansion and their fear of alliances between the French and the Indians made them increasingly opposed NamNews 2-12 Page 21 3 Dec 1988 to a continued French presence in North America. Virginia in particular was incensed when the French established a series of forts in the west. Reacting to this threat, Lieutenant Governor Robert Dinwiddie sent young Washington to deliver an ultimatum to the leaders. When diplomacy failed, Dinwiddie ordered out a force of 300 colonials under Washington to defend English claims to the "Forks of the Ohio," where the Allegheny and Monongahela rivers join to form the Ohio (now Pittsburgh). Washington promptly led his men into what would become the first engagement of the French and Indian War. He won a preliminary skirmish before being captured by superior French forces some 50 miles south of his objective. Widespread criticism, especially among the English after his release, only seemed to strengthen Washington's resolve. He served as a volunteer aide in 1755 to Major General Edward Braddock when the British sent a large force of regulars to capture Fort Dusquesne, the French stronghold recently erected at the Forks of the Ohio. Although the Braddock expedition met defeat on the banks of the Monongoahela, Washington's display of courage and tactical skills in battle caused his personal reputation to soar. A grateful Dinwiddie subsequently placed him in charge of Virginia's frontier defenses. He commanded the colony's regiments and separate ranger companies(both perpetuated in today's 116th Infantry, Virginia Army National Guard), as well as it's mobilized militiamen. In 1758 Washington became a brigade commander, the only American to achieve that rank during the war. The French and Indian wars served as a training ground for the leaders of the American Revolution. From his experiences in the field Washington came to understand the key role played by discipline, "the soul of an army," as he later called it. He also learned that tactics and formations had to be adapted to terrain. Perhaps most important for his future, he came to realize that the able leader pays close attention to administrative detail, learns how to make do with limited resources, and seeks to foster the welfare of his men. Resigning his commission in 1758, Washington devoted the next fifteen years to his expanding agricultural enterprises. He also began to aquire political skills, emerging as a moderate leader of the opposition to English colonial policy. By 1774, however, Virginia's opposition to the mother country had hardened, and Washington, always loyal to his colony, joined in supporting the revolutionaries. He accepted the leadership of the volunteer militia and represented Virginia in the Continental Congress. THE SOLDIER: The Continental Congress quickly took advantage of Washington's military experience. Following the fighting at Lexington and Concord, it appointed him to various committees handling military matters, and on 15 June 1775 his fellow delegates unanimously elected him "General and Commander in Chief" of all Continental forces. Washington accepted the assignment only out of profound sense of duty, refusing any salary. For eight years, the longest NamNews 2-12 Page 22 3 Dec 1988 American war before Vietnam, he led the main elements of the Continental Army in combat while also carrying out the broader responsibilities of the Revolution's senior military officer. The two sides adopted different strategies in the war. The English concentrated on occupying urban centers and seeking set battles. Washington put his emphasis on preserving his forces, believing the Revolution could succeed only if he kept his Army intact. He therefore bided his time, avoiding major defeats and acting decisively when the chance for surprise arose. Trenton and Princeton, in the winter of 1776, were memorable victories in a bleak campaign. In 1777 General Horatio Gates won the battle of Saratoga, and France entered the war on the American side, thus offering Washington the prospect of an allied offensive. In the interim, he employed his main force to neutralize the English Army in New York, while nibbling away at the enemy's strength and resolve in other areas, principally in the south. When French naval superiority off the Virginia Capes offered the opportunity for victory, Washington struck swiftly, defeating the British at Yorktown in 1781. Washington had overcome massive obstacles in pursuing this strategy. After organizing and training the Army, he had met the challenge of holding it together as a professional fighting force during the dark days of defeat. At the same time, he had to placate a demanding Congress and jealous state governments, improvise to offset shortages in material support, curb his sometimes impulsive subordinate commanders, and deal with allies. Only a soldier endowed with extraordinary foresight, personal integrity, and self-discipline could have provided the necessary leadership. The claim can be made that without Washington the Revolution would not have succeeded. At war's end, Washington promptly dismantled his victorious Army and once again became a private citizen. These actions astounded European observers, who fully expected the victorious general to seize power in the independent but unorganized colonies. Such assessments overlooked Washington's strong belief in the subordination of the military to civilian authority. He made his position clear in March 1783 when a petition urging the Army to force Congress to restore back pay had circulated among the officers at Newburgh, New York. Washington recalled his own sacrifices in the service of his country and reminded his officers that their loyalty should be to their country, not to the Army. To dramatize the point, he fumbled through the first paragraph of his prepared remarks, donned glasses, and commented that not only had he grown grey in the service of his country but now he was also going blind. He then proceeded to denounce the petition as treason. The chastised officers meekly dispersed. THE STATESMAN: Washington, his personal finances in shambles, returned to Mount Vernon in 1783 to resume his agricultural and business interests. But his absence from public life proved brief. The course of government under the articles of Confederation convinced him that NamNews 2-12 Page 23 3 Dec 1988 a stronger central authority was essential if the political and economic promises of independence were to be realized. His active participation in the drive for a stronger union of the thirteen states sprang in part from his fascination with the potential of the West, an interest born during his youthful days as a surveyor in the Shanandoah Valley and as an officer in the French and Indian War. To promote the development of the Potomac River Valley, he hosted a conference between officials from Virginia and Maryland at Mount Vernon in 1785. This meeting lead to a convention in Annapolis the next year and, finally, to the Constitution Convention in Philadelphia in 1787. The delegates unanimously elected Washington president of the Constitutional Convention. He proved uniquely suited to the task, his presence lending prestige and dignity to the proceedings. He also served as an important unifying force in the deliberations. Under his judicious guidance the Convention reached the many compromises necessary to achieve a more perfect union and wrote the provisions that would provide for a strong central government. Ratification of the Constitution led in time to Washington's inauguration as President in New York City in April 1789. Once in office, Washington tried to transform the promises of the Revolution and Constitution into realities. Applying experiences gained in commanding the Continental Army, he set about the task of organizing and molding a new central government. With quiet authority, he balanced the competing factions coalescing around two of his subordinates, Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton. He dealt with the demands of the Congress with typical restraint, respecting its legislative prerogatives but never hesitating to exercise his presidential powers. In foreign affairs he insisted on strict neutrality in the continuing Anglo-French conflict; in economic matters he supported measures to strengthen the stability of the new nation. He secured the West through military actions and international treaties. He also jealously defended the authority of the federal government, quickly calling forth state militia forces to suppress the Whisky Rebellion, a flouting of the excise tax laws by farmers in western Pennsylvania. Always a presedent setting leader, he established a critical final one when he refused to accept a third term. Washington's stirring Farwell Address to the country not only cautioned against sectional differences and foreign entanglements but also encapsulated his philosophy of government. In relinquishing the reins of power for the last time, he reminded his fellow citizens that "the unity of Government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so; for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home; your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize." _________________ The Congress shall have power... NamNews 2-12 Page 24 3 Dec 1988 To raise and support Armies...; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia...; ARTICLE I, Section 8. BIRTH: 22 February 1732, at "Wakefield," Westmoreland County, Virginia OCCUPATION: Planter MILITARY SERVICE: Virginia militia officer - 5 years Commander in Chief, Continental Army - 8.5 years PUBLIC SERVICE: Continental Congress - 1 year President Of the United States - 8 years DEATH: 14 December 1799, at "Mount Vernon," Fairfax County, Virginia PLACE OF INTERNMENT: Mount Vernon _______________ We at KidsNews hope you have enjoyed the above article as much as we did. There will be more articles about our great patriots in the near future. If you have an article that you think is appropriate for KidsNews, please contact the Editor via the KIDS echo conference or NetMail at 1:100/525. Thanks from the staff at KidsNews P.O. Box 8045 Granite City, Illinois 62040-8045 NamNews 2-12 Page 25 3 Dec 1988 VETERANS DAY 1988 - It Ain't What It Used To Be! By Herb Reith National Service Officer, Fleet Reserve Association I am writing this a few days after Veterans Day and it is probably one of the hardest articles I have ever sat down to do. It appears that veterans are now looked upon as something that belong to the age of the dinosaurs. Something to read about in history books but no longer relevant to today. This past Veterans Day at the local V.A. Medical Center under a beautiful blue sky all of 30-40 people showed up for a traditional Veterans Day program. This in a county of more than 170,000 people. After a hiatus of almost 20 years the local County Veterans Council worked long and hard to reestablish one of the great traditions of the past, a Veterans Day parade, and what a fiasco. When I was a boy growing up in the 1920s and 30s schools, businesses and government offices were closed on Armistice Day as Veterans Day was then called. Parades were the order of the day with ceremonies of great depth and feeling being conducted from one end of this country to the other at exactly 11:00 AM. Flags lined the streets, both business and residential. With the exception of the flags in the parade hardly one Old Glory was to be found along the streets of the parade route. The only flag on my street was the one on the flag pole in my front yard. And that is flown every day, not just on holidays. Once upon a time every Boy and Girl Scout Troop in the area would participate in the various ceremonies of the day. High school bands were sandwiched between the marching Veteran Organization Color Guards. Most prominent in every Veterans Day parade would be the local National Guard and Reserve units. This year the local Boy Scout and Girl Scout Councils were contacted and asked to participate but not even ONE showed up. This old Eagle Scout with 45 years of association with the movement can only say...SHAME ON YOU... All local high school bands were requested to participate. Only one indicated that they might be interested and even that one failed to respond when contacted with the details of the parade. If it was not for the local Junior ROTC units, which of course are led by retired military people, the youth of the schools of the area would have been conspicuous by their absence. Local guard and reserve units were totally uninterested stating that it was a holiday and that they could not ask their members to participate as they could not get paid for participating. Now that's a great reason if I ever heard one. It took a great deal of effort on the part of the local County Veterans Council to get a parade permit. One was issued for the first time last year after much politicking by local veteran leaders. The local merchants were against it as they said it would tie up traffic in the downtown area. City officials were against it because they claimed it was to close to the Christmas Parade. A few years of arm twisting finally produced, at long last, last year's parade permit only to have the parade canceled due to inclement weather. This year on Veterans Day it was business as usual. All city NamNews 2-12 Page 26 3 Dec 1988 offices were open. Stores featured Veterans Day sales with big inserts in the local paper luring people to the outlying shopping malls and away from the V. A. Medical Center's ceremony and the downtown area where the parade was to be held. Veteran Day sales hell, their only interest in Veterans Day was the cash register! The parade was held in spite of all this. A band from a local housing project was the only music to be heard. While these young people are to be commended for participating, it was not the stirring martial music that used to tug at the heart of Americans and make them swell with pride in their heritage. And where were the Americans watching the parade? I don't know. I would estimate that if 500 people lined the streets of the downtown parade route it was a lot. Most of those were probably there for some other purpose and were just caught by surprise by the parade. That evening I watched the local television station for their Veterans Day coverage. Scenes shown of BOTH the V.A. Medical Center program and the local parade amounted to no more than one minute or so with the parade consuming, at the most, approximately 15 seconds of that time. The local newspaper had a small story and picture in the second section the following day. To the local media it was just another non-event not worthy of more than just a passing mention. One of the most heart rendering things in the parade was a group of Vietnam veterans carrying a replica of the small bamboo cages that the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong confined American POWs in. Even that, along with the black POW-MIA flag they displayed, failed to evoke any meaningful response from the media. Don't bother us with the reminder of the possibility that some American Mia's might still be rotting in the stink holes of Southeast Asia. The prevailing attitude seems to be "maybe if we ignore the MIA issue it will go away!" I guess patriotism is like nostalgia, "it ain't what it used to be". I served in combat in WWII and my sons in Vietnam but now I wonder, was it worth it? Are the sacrifices of so many to be relegated to the junk heap of history? If so, I will fight to keep my grandchildren out of the Armed Forces if this country ever goes to war again. It just doesn't mean anything anymore to the majority of Americans. Shades of the Roman Empire. Maybe we could get Willie Nelson to rewrite his famous song "Mothers, don't let your sons grow up to be cowboys" with the new title being "Mothers, don't let your sons grow up to be veterans!!!" And how was your day? From the Armed Forces Reunion BBS (704) 667-8021 On line 24 hours a day 1200/2400 baud - 8/N/1 NamNews 2-12 Page 27 3 Dec 1988 ================================================================= WANTED ================================================================= By: Alex Humphrey If you would like a rubbing taken of the name of a relative, friend or loved one from the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington DC, you can get it done by writing: Friends of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, Inc. 4200 Wisconsin Avenue NW Suite 106-108 Washington DC 20016 Attention: Name Rubbing NamNews 2-12 Page 28 3 Dec 1988 NAM VET NEWSLETTER SUBSCRIPTION FORM The Nam Vet Newsletter is a nonprofit publication available free of charge to anyone wishing to have a copy. It can be obtained in electronic computer format by anyone having access to a computer and modem by dialing up any of the IVVEC hosting bulletin board systems listed in this issue of the Nam Vet. 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That of the Amerasian children, believed in number close to 20,000, fathered by U.S. Servicemen during the war in Vietnam, there are still approximately 12,000 living in Vietnam? Any U.S. veteran who have children in Vietnam and whose addresses are presently known, or who want to find their child in Vietnam, please contact: The Amerasian Registry Bruce W. Burns, Attorney at Law 95 South Market Street Suite 300 San Jose, California 95113 408-292-6683 Donations to help bring these children home may be sent to the above address. NamNews 2-12 Page 30 3 Dec 1988 The Canadian Vets have taken responsibility of keeping this node- list up to date. We here at the Valhalla would like to extend our heartfelt "Thanks!" to them for their efforts! The latest IVVEC nodelist is File Requestable from 143/27 using the magic word IVVECLST. ================================================================= IVVEC NODELIST version 001 Compiled by the Vietnam Veterans In Canada ================================================================= As of 25 November 88 these are the net/nodes that are currently listed as receiving the International Vietnam Veterans Echo. If your local BBS is not listed, please send a message to Woody Carmack 153/130 (1-604-462-8753) or leave a message in the IVVEC. 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