Diolch yn fawr, Geraint! Now -- deep breath -- L-plates on -- as I attempt to translate that rhyme into English. Corrections, os gwelwch yn dda! Glad to play the role of guinea pig, for the reward of a public lesson in Welsh! Marion Gunn On Tue, 27 Apr 93 00:38:26 BST Geraint Jones said: Geraint Jones Marion Gunn >... >Ie, a, ym, ... [thinking] >Hen dy+, hen do, And old house, an old roof, >Hen bobol ynddo; And old people in it; >Hen wraig ar ben y ty+'n An old woman in the main room >Golchi'i phen a+ sebon du. Washing her head in black soap. >Hen dy+, hen do, An old house, an old roof, >Hen ddrws heb dim clo, An old door without any lock, >Hen ffenest heb dim gwydr, An old window without any glass, >Hen wraig a+ wyneb budr. An old woman with a kind face. > >... neu rhywbeth o'r fath. Synnwn i ddim nad oes 'na mwy. Last line you win hands down, Geraint: I can't even guess at your meaning! Pob hwyl, mg MGUNN@IRLEARN.UCD.IE