> >Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogogoch > > > Llan Church (or village) > fair (of St) Mary (soft mutation of Mair) > pwll (of the) pond (dell??) > gwyn (of) white > gyll hazel (soft mutation of cyll) > go ? (of, from? a variant of o?) > ger near > y the > chwyrn swift > drobwll whirlpool (soft mutation of trobwll) > llan church (or village) > tysilio (of St) Tysilio > gogo ? (cave = ogof) > goch red (s.m. of coch) I have a dispute with the above translation. First of all, "gogo" does not mean "cave". "ogof" means "cave", and f's are easily dropped. Therefore, the "g" must belong to "tysiliog". Secondly, I submit that "tysiliog" is actually "ty Siliog", and "llantysiliog" is "the church of the house of Siliog". One source I've seen identifies Suliac with this saint. Why the house? A llan was not what we would call a church. It was a mud-and-wattle hut where a hermit, missionary, or other such "saint" lived. Compare "Tyddewi", the Welsh name for St. David's. Sylwiadau? -- Roger