-=>like to avoid sounding too stupid when referring to place names. The -=>only thing I can remember about the pronunciation is that "LL" in -=>Welsh sounds something like "CH" in English. No it doesn't. What it sounds like (and is) is a voiceless lateral. Make an L sound. Now make it voiceless. That's LL, more or less. The "CH" sound in English, if you mean the one that appears in "church" twice, is actually the "T" sound followed by the "SH" sound (which is pretty much a voiceless "S".) Not even remotely similar to "LL". -- Stanton McCandlish * Space Migration * Networking * ChaOrder * NO GOV'T. * anton@hydra.unm.edu * Intelligence Increase * Nano * Crypto * NO RELIGION * FidoNet: 1:301/2 * Life Extension * Ethics * VR * Now! * NO MORE LIES! * Noise in the Void BBS * +1-505-246-8515 (24hr, 1200-14400, v32bis, N-8-1) *