> Now, the Welsh words for blue and green, as we know, are 'glas' and > 'gwyrdd'. 'Glas', as far as I know, is a bona fide P-Celtic word. 'Gwyrdd', > however, looks suspiciously to me like it may be a Latin borrowing; well, > ahem, I don't actually know what the Latin for 'green' is, but assuming > that it was something similar to the French 'vert' or the root of the > English 'verdant', then 'vert'->'gwyrdd' is at least plausible, cf. > 'Venedotia'->'Gwynedd' and 'Venta Silurum'->'Gwent'... If this is so, I > wonder if it was the not-so-colour-blind Romans who intorduced the concept > of 'green' to a colour-blind Welsh population who hadn't made the > distinction before. > > Or maybe I'm just having a funny five minutes.. Brilliantly deduced Steve. Having just dug out my trusty copy of 'Yr Elfen Ladin yn yr Iaith Gymraeg' (**) I find that gwyrdd is indeed derived from the latin uiridis. There are a number of changes: (1) the first -i- changes to -y- (same as in fides -> ffydd), (2) the unaccented last syllable disappears (same as discipulus -> disgybl), (3) the initial u- changes to gw- (same as uitrem -> gwydr) and (4) when b,d or m come between r- and a vowel, they mutate, d -> dd, m,b -> f (e.g. terminus -> terfyn). Nigel (**) 'Yr Elfen Ladin yn yr Iaith Gymraeg', gan Henry Jones, Gwasg Prifysgol Cymru, Caerdydd, 1943 (Adargraffwyd 1980) pp.53 ISBN 0 7083 0769 8. Dw i ddim yn siwr am y pris - fe dalais i 1.95 o bunnau ym 1991, yn Heffers yng Nghaergrawnt. Llyfryn diddorol iawn.