Nid dyma'n union beth oeddwn i'n bwriadu codi (ailgodi) dadl amdani... ( >a grey one `un las' or `un glas' ) ( Ummm... grey is llwyd. glas is blue. ) ( (either that or all three of my dictionaries are off) You call them llwyd if you like, and I won't mind at all. I never yet saw a blue goose, but I thought the geese in the harbour this morning were glas. A few of the young ladies and gentlemen lolling around the college after the Summer Ball last night are decidedly llwyd, though. g