that all messages in Welsh should include an English translation. It seems to me rather sad that a person who has gone to the trouble of sending a message to Welsh-l would then be made to feel the need to apologize that it was 'only' in Welsh. Most of us surely don't have unlimited time to spend on the network, and I can well imagine how someone with a free half hour could easily decide not to bother writing in Welsh if he/she thought that an English duplication were also necessary. Messages in Welsh also often presume a certain amount of shared cultural background, and would often mean little to those who possess others. Surely one should be able to bang away on the keyboard in either language quite unselfconsciously? Cofion, Dewi.