Mae hi'n flin gen i, os mae digon o frenhiniaeth hen saesneg am 'net' (?am rhyd). Ddylwyn i ddim ysgrifennu hanes wrth gof. Mae cwyriad yma*: The northen british history section of Nennius, with some corroboration by the Durham "Liber Vitae", suggests that Urien's great-grandaughter Rhiainfellt (OW Rieinmelt) may have been ->Oswy<- of Northumbria's first wife (about 635.) This suggests Rheged maintained some autonomy in the period between Urien's death circa 580, through Edwin and Oswald's reign. There's a good discussion of the primary sources by K. Jackson, with his usual stimulating name etymologies, in "Celt & Saxon: Studies in the Early British Border," editor: Chadwick et al., 1963. K Broadwell * I'm sorry if there's been enough of old english kingdoms on the net. I should never write history from memory. Here's a correction: New item: I'd be a grateful particpant in beginner Welsh lessons, even if they were infrequent and sporadic. I know teaching can require more of a commitment than evident at first glance, but perhaps a brave and foolhardy soul will volunteer.