yes rhodri darling you are in fact biased I also have been umder the impression all of this time that it is in the north that things are truly welsh and all you southerners are assimilated. Please keep in mind I have never been to cymru and know very little about it sooo really all I had a right to say was that you are biased. No hard feelings as huw garan would say I'm getting off of my soapbox now. If anyone new has gotten pissed off at my netiquette in this message fine rant and rave here's how to send it to me annac@netcom.com