Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 1 no.91 October 22, 1991 1) Disambiguation (Mikhl Herzog) 2) Ingberlakh (Rich Turkel) 3) An afterword (Aren Abramson) 4) Introduction (Harry Bochner) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 91 06:05 EDT From: ZOGUR@CUVMB.BITNET Subject: RE: Mendele Vol 1.89 The pair "fisnoge" = 'feet' vs "fisribe" = 'fish' is definitely a Litvish dev ice for disambiguating the homonyms that result from the merger of "s" & "sh". The merger of "oy" and "ey" (i.e., "voynen" 'to live' = "veynen" 'to cry') also yields a device to disambiguate the resulting "veynen": Litvish "avu freyt ir zikh?" I.e. "Where do you rejoice = live"? to avoid "Avu veynt ir?" Such fun! 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 91 12:09:57 -0400 From: rmt51@cas.bitnet (Rick Turkel) Subject: RE: Ingberlach, etc. (1.90) Regarding Sheldon Benjamin's posting on ingberlach -- a friend in Baltimore makes them as a Pesach treat, exactly as he describes them. They are seasoned with ginger (hence the name), and require a dry environment to retain their shape as discrete pieces -- high humidity causes them to fuse together into an inseparable mass. Unfortunately, my dental work no longer allows me to partake -- just LOOKING at them makes my fillings come loose! My late wife also used to bake challa with a ladder on top, as did her late mother, but I don't recall any correlation with any particular holiday or occasion. 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 91 15:29:20 EST From: Aren Abramson Subject: RE: Mendele Vol 1.90 An afterword on hayratn.When I sent my message on this little argument, I no longer had the original exchange in front of me. I don't think Khaver Mikhl Herzog was replying to any proposal that Germanic and Semitic are related. Rather, the question was whether harey at in the Jewish wedding ceremony could underlie the Yiddish word hayratn. My intent was to furnish a couple of Germanic roots that the boys and girls who work on Germanic languages and their forebear, Indo-European, have reconstructed from extensive comparative studies. I myself am not an authority in these matters. Anyway, the suggested etymology with harey at is sprobably no more thatn a folk etymology with no substantive foundation. Aren 4)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 91 17:27:54 -0400 From: bochner@das.harvard.edu Subject: Brief Bio "native listener" of Chrzanow (Krakow area) Central Yiddish; educated in "Yivo" Yiddish by David Fishman and Mordechai Shechter. Ph.D. in theoretical linguistics from Harvard U.; currently working at Harvard as computer programmer. -- Harry Bochner -- bochner@das.harvard.edu ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol 1.91