Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 1 no. 95 November 11, 1991 1) Binde (Dovid Braun) 2) Bostoner Yiddish (Harry Bochner) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Nov 91 16:45:18 EST From: braund@linc.cis.upenn.edu Subject: binde and other items "Binde" is the word also used in my Yiddish (Northern Poland/White Russia [between Grodne/Grodno and Byalistok/Bialystok]) for 'necktie'. It's not a calque from English. It is in Harkavy's 1928 Yiddish-English dictionary. It's always good to consult Harkavy 1928 in cases where U. Weinreich's dictionary is missing the term. Scenery is a major theme in Yiddish poetry (as in the poetry and literatures of many peoples). Scores of poems and poetry books have the word "harbst"('autumn') in them. They should be consulted for the relevant terminology (as well as a dictionary). 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Nov 91 18:30:51 -0500 From: bochner@das.harvard.edu Subject: RE: Bostoner Yiddish With respect to "Sissel": Some Boston friends with roots in Providence R.I. use "Sissel Seeds" in English to refer to caraway seeds, and "Sissel Bread" to refer to dark ryebread with seeds. They were surprised when I said I had never heard the term before, either in English or in Yiddish; in fact they were surprised when we couldn't find the word in English dictionaries. One co-worker here, with local roots, tells me that she's familiar with the term, but for her it means "sesame" rather than "caraway". Another tells me he learned it in Madison Wisconsin, and he thinks there it can mean either "caraway" or "sesame". He associates its use there with New York style delicatessens; I never, however, heard it used in Buffalo, NY. (But maybe it's used in Buffalo English, and I just heard too many deli conversations in Yiddish to learn this obscure English word?) Both of these co-workers are non-jewish, so if the word is indeed of Yiddish origin, this shows that its penetration into at some regional varieties of English is pretty complete. Maybe the Dictionary of American Regional English is the place to look; anyone have a copy? I will attempt to gather more data, and will be interested to hear anyone's insights into the origin of this word. -- Harry ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol 1.95