Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 2 no. 178 April 30, 1993 1) Yiddish videos (Moshe Waldoks) 2) Diminutives and plurals (Ellen Prince) 3) Ya-Tebe-Dam (Alan Rutkowski) 4) Ya-Tebe-Dam (Zev Bar-Lev) 5) W. Younin's book (cont.) (Bob Rothstein) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed Apr 28 10:44:36 1993 From: WALDOKS@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU Subject: Yiddish videos Regina, whatever you do, make sure you have some of the excellent Yiddish videos available from the National Center for Jewish Film at Brandeis U. in Waltham 617-899-7044- a perfect distraction for an evening or a rainy day Moshe W. 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu Apr 29 17:04:37 1993 From: "Ellen F. Prince" Subject: Diminutives and Plurals >... > Chasid sg. Chasidim pl. > Chasidl sg. w/diminutive > Chasidimlekh pl. w/diminutive > >Is this an isolated case in Yiddish? - I doubt it. >Where can I find anything written on the subject of the >order of these morphemes? More examples? hi, margaret/malkah (!). dave perlmutter did a paper on this a few years ago, for which i have the following reference: Perlmutter, D. 1986. The split morphology hypothesis: evidence from Yiddish. Presented at the Milwaukee Morphology Meeting, April. i think the proceedings have appeared, presumably with his paper in them. to save the generalization that inflectional morphology goes outside of derivational, he proposes that the plural forms of any items which don't have a 'regular' -n or -s plural are stored separately as suppletive forms and there's no 'analysis'--you need that anyway for plurals with zero morphology (ferd/ferd). btw, if i remember correctly, there's one germanic noun with the m. semitic pattern (where the -lekh attaches to an unambiguous plural form): kinderlekh. (the other 'suppletive' forms have the same stem for the singular diminutive as the plural non-diminutive and diminutive: bukh, BIKH-l, BIKH-er, BIKH-lekh.) (of course, yid. kind 'child' has no sg diminutive, but bavarian has kindl, not kinderl. bavarian kindl, btw, is apparently used to denote the christ child, which i suspect is why it's missing in yiddish.) as an aside, i once did a little (unpublished) study of language-mixing and looked at how plurals were treated. it fits beautifully with perlmutter's analysis: yiddish -n and -es plurals (his 'regular' ones) used in english got english plural morphology (yid. yortsaytn vs. eng. yortsayts), while his 'suppletive' forms tended to be taken, at least for a generation, with their original morphology (goyim, kinder), suggesting that they are stored as such in the lexicon. n.b.: i'm probably misremembering parts of perlmutter's analysis! check before citing. Ellen Prince 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu Apr 29 18:27:38 1993 From: Subject: Re: YA TEBE DAM. This is Russian and it means "I'll show you! (literally, "I'll give you"). It's what you say to a bigshot, I guess. Alan Rutkowski 4)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu Apr 29 18:45:39 1993 From: zbarlev@sciences.sdsu.edu Subject: Re: YA TEBE DAM Ya tebe dam is Slavic (Russian at least) for "I'll give you". One can easily enough imagine larger contexts (which is a good thing, since I don't know what the larger context actually was). zev bar-Lev 5)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu Apr 29 22:45:17 1993 From: ROBERT A ROTHSTEIN Subject: W. Younin's book (cont.) The copy that Zachary Baker reported on in Mendele 186 may just be a photocopy of the _Forverts_ installments, which were printed in double columns, each bearing a page number. The last installment was pages 193-94. Bob Rothstein ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol 2.178