Mendele: Yiddish literature and language
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Contents of Vol. 3.331
April 25, 1994

1) Bikel (Ted Steinberg)
2) Loshn-koydesh (Yude Rozof)

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Date: Sun Apr 24 18:34:00 1994
From: STEINBER%FREDONIA.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Bikel

In reply to Ken Kaminsky, I'm sorry I didn't see your message earlier or
I could have given a better answer.  Today when I was at a CD store in
Buffalo, I saw one of the Theodore Bikel collections of Yiddish songs on
CD, so it definitely exists.

Ted Steinberg

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Date: Sun Apr 24 20:39:00 1994
From: jrosof@sas.upenn.edu
Subject: loshn-koydesh

     In di letste numers fun Mendele hot men ibergeredt di teme fun
loshn-koydesh un grenetsn in Yidish.  Zol der oylem farshteyn, kh'bin a
posheter yid, nisht keyn bal loshn mit a diplom fun Kolombye, stam a
libhober fun bobe loshn, vi s'iz ba mir der fal.  Nokhn aroysdrikn az ikh
bin klal veklal nisht keyn khoshever lingvist, vil ikh say vi say
aroysshtreken dem naken un a zog ton arum der teme fun losh-koydesh, vos
hot zikh lefi mayn gedekhenish ongehoybn mit a friern briv mayner.

    Koydem kol lomikh onheybn mit a bisl haskome.  Faran in yidish verter
mit a loshn-koydeshdikn opshtam vos zenen banundz gevorn shtendike
bashtandteyln fun der yidisher shprakh.  Katore velkhe khokhem, meyvn,
khale, sholem, khutspe, shaykhes, eytse, un dos glaykhn.  On di dozike
verter ken men zikh nisht bageyn afile az men iz a komunist an
anti-hebreist.  Oykhet der grester libhober fun loshn-koydesh vet darfn
moyde zayn az af yidish heyst dos vos me trinkt vaser shtots mayim.
Yene verter ken men lefi dati ufshteln af a reshime on di greste
shverikeytn. Veyniker klor ober iz die kashe fun di m---- zayn verbn:
Mekhuyev zayn, mekarev zayn, un azoy vayter.  In der blitsayt fun der
tsaytung proze zenen yene verter geven veyniker balibt vi yetst.  S'iz
geven a moyre az me vet nisht farshteyn.  Afile a daytshmerizm vi
farflikhet hot gehat di pkhoyre eyder aza "hebreizm" vi mekhuyev zayn.
Hayntike tsaytn iz mekhuyev kosher lemehadrin ober faran hunderter andere
m---- zayn verbn vos me hit zikh fun zey az me shraybt far der breyter
oylem.

	S'iz do nokh a kategorye fun loshn-koydesh.  Dos iz di kategorye
fun gantsene frazes fun loshn-koydesh vos me derlozt arayn in a yidish
text on zey masbir tsu zayn.  Kh'red do fun Ani mamin b'emune shleyme,
loy ze (oder iz es zu?) ha-derekh, ha-kadoysh borkhu beatsmoy
ubekhvoydoy, girse d'yankuse vekadoyme.  Yene frazes zenen tif farvortslt
in der milye fun derekh hashas.  Al keyn banutst men zey un derfar hobn
zey zikh arayngelozt in Harkavy's verterbukh.  Enlekhe meyn lamdonishe
oydrikn vos hobn gefelt inem togteglekhn red-shprakh gefinen oykh a plats
ba harkavi'n.  Azoy iz ober oykh der fal mit azelkhe perln fun der
amerikanisher yidish, vi lemoshl "no" far "neyn."  S'iz tshikave vos in
undzere tsaytn hobn mir zikh shoyn bafrayt fun "no" un "stor" ober di
dozike loshn koydesh frazn zenen oyle yofe geblibn.

	Kh'bin maskem az s'ekzistirt a loshn koydesh fundament in der
red-shprakh.  Khotsh me redt in talmud vegn shor shenagakh darf men af
yidish zogn oks un nisht shor.  S'iz veyniker gring mit der beletristik.
Azoy vi di litaynishe un frantseyzishe oysdrikn in der geshikhte un
literatur kritik lozn zikh shver inventorizirn af english, azoy oykh mit
di loshn-koydesh frazes af yidish.  Hagam gantse frazes zenen
umfarshtendlekh mit an uriel oder a harkavi in der hant vern zey
publikirt on a taytsh.  Dos iz miglekh alpe kulturele sibes, ober
se'dakht zikh nisht alpe lingvistishe sibes.  Deriber halt ikh az a total
inventorizirn fun aza mishloshn vi yidish iz a retsept far a kopveytik
godl, befeyrush az se'redt zikh fun loshn-koydesh.  Lokhn mit eyn hant
bin ikh maskem az s'ekzistirt a loshn-koydesh yisod vos lozt zikh
inventorizirn.  Mit der tsveyter hant zog ikh az afile dos inventorizirn
fun DI verter iz gornisht gring.  Al akhes kame ve kame iz shver
optsushpigln s'gantse loshn-koydesh af a reshime.  Iz lomikh lesof zogn,
efsher iz nisht yeder vort in talmud a potentsieler vort af yidish, afile
mit dem ober, darf men tsugebn az shoyn dos vos mir hobn fun di
loshn-koydesh kvaln lozt zikh nisht bagrenetsn in keyn shum seyfer
ha-loshn-koydesh verter.  Ikh meyn az kultur un nisht dayke lingvistik iz
der hoypt faktor.  Vu den iz der ek loshn-koydesh in yidish?  Nokh amol,
mit a shtarkn dagesyh: blaybt a kashe.

   Yude Rozof

(Zayt moykhel oyb mayn yidish iz mole-toeses, ba mir iz yidish bobe
loshn, nisht fun der heym.)

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