Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 4.307 January 31, 1995 1) Name-pairing (Paul Pascal) 2) Name-pairing (Paul Pascal) 3) Name-pairing (Rick Gildemeister) 4) Name-pairing (David Sherman) 5) Name-pairing (Mikhl Herzog) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 Jan 95 18:49:30 EST From: 75332.2735@compuserve.com Subject: Itsik/Isaac Mikhl Herzog's fascinating elaboration on the Hebrew-Yiddish name-pairing custom brought to mind a particular pairing which I've seen repeatedly but which has left me scratching my head every time. I have seen this in old documents from Romania and other East European countries. It is not a Yiddish-Hebrew pairing, but rather an apparently Hebrew-English or Yiddish-English pairing. (I'm sure there is a better explanation for it than this pshat.) I'm referring to Itsik-Aizik, or Yitschok-Aizik. In America?--Nu, meyle. But where could the long "I" sound come from in that other, most non-Anglo-saxon, part of the world? Paul Pascal Toronto 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: 31 Jan 95 00:11:46 EST From: 75332.2735@compuserve.com Subject: Name Pairings In response to Varda Ullman Novick's query about women's name pairings, it was less common, until this century, to give women Hebrew names instead of, or in addition to, Yiddish ones, as compared with men. The exceptions were the names of the biggest female stars of Jewish history: the Matriarchs (Sore, Rivke, Rokhl, and Leye), Ester, Khane, Khave (my old kheyder-lerer told me Odem un Khave spoke Hebrew in Gan-Eydn, so you can count the original Khave as Jewish ;-) ). Women were not given aliyes to the Toyre, so why should they have Hebrew names?--this seems to have been the thinking (of course, the relative scarcity or omission of women heroes in the Tanakh itself didn't help matters in this regard, but perhaps this begs the question). Neither were women schooled in "Di Shvartse Pintelekh", Holy Writ and the Hebrew language, as men were; their davening was mostly in Yiddish. "Got fun Avrom...", for example, was the woman's tfile that ushered in the week at the end of Shabes, and "Tsenurena" was the women's Yiddish version of the Tanakh (even though the title is Hebrew, sort of.) However, women's names were often paired, nevertheless. I don't know if there was a system to it. Now, until two minutes ago my sense was that women's name-pairings were of the Yiddish-Yiddish variety, but the first examples that come to mind (from people in my life) are, in fact, Yiddish in combination with the Hebrew exceptions I mentioned earlier: Elke-Leye, Sore-Beyle, Feyge-Rokhl. Then there's Ester-Malke, ultimately a Hebrew-Hebrew pairing, as is Sore-Ester. Other pairings: Khasye-Grune, Khaye-Gitl, and there's Pnine-Perl, but this may be recent (it's also an example of the same name in the two languages, one of the paradigms--for men--which Mikhl Herzog posted). Regarding Dovid Braun's sense that Shmuel-Shmelke and Moyshe-Meshl do not seem like obvious pairings, I would guess that the middle step, in the first case, came from Poyln, Galitsiye, etc., with Shmiel for Shmuel, and in the second case, from the Litvishe Meyshe for Moyshe. Paul Pascal Toronto 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 08:52:46 EST From: eeglc%cunyvm.bitnet@yalevm.cis.yale.edu Subject: Ayzik/Yitskhok It was interesting to follow Mikhl Herzog and Dovid Braun's discussion of Zaynvl (what about Zangwill, could that possibly be related too? You can't help but suspect it but the initial consonant is "ts" not "z"). I've always suspected, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Ayzik, the Germanic component form for Yitskhok (like Zaynvl from Zamuel) is a case where that vowel i, which normally became ay, changed in Yiddish but did not yield the same result in modern German, where I believe it is Isaac (I know the vowel is definitely i). Rick Gildemeister 4)---------------------------------------------------- From: dave@cai.lsuc.on.ca Subject: Name-pairing Mikhl Herzog writes: > III. Traditional pairings for which I don't know the rationale: _Itshe > (=Yitskhok)-Mayer_, _Yekhiel-Mikhl_..., _Yaynkef-Yitskhok_ > (pairing of the "fathers", perhaps). Sometimes they're named after specific past luminaries. Among Lubavitch, for example, Yosef Yitkhok and Menakhem Mendl are both very common names given to boys, after the two most recent Lubavitcher Rebbes. Interestingly, Menakhem Mendl was commonly given even while the latest Rebbe was alive; the custom of naming only after a deceased person, which applies to relatives, does not appear to apply to the Rebbe. (Also interestingly, Lubavitch still teaches their kids to refer to the "Rebbe Sh'lita" rather than the "Rebbe olevasholom". But I digress.) I've heard that Mayer Yekhiel is another common pairing, in memory of a past sage in Poland (the Or Sameyakh? not sure). David Sherman 5)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 11:44 EST From: zogur@cuvmb.columbia.edu Subject: Names and name-pairing--male and female 1. Dovid Braun asks about _Moyshe-Meshl_ and _Shmuel-Shmelke_. In both cases, the hypochoristic forms are familiar, but I've never encountered the pairings in this fashion. In any event, I'd derive _Meshl_ from an intermediate diminutive _Moshke_. As for _Shmelke_: the process that may be involved and its usual geography don't seem to go together. Consider Litvish Yiddish: i) prevocalic diphthongization. uy < u in _Shevuyes_ (the _yontef_) and _Shmuyel, and oy < o , also in _Shevoyes_, and in _toyes_ 'error'; ii) prevocalic lowering _shevoyes_ < shevuyes, _freyer_ < _friyer 'earlier', and _Gavreyel_ < _Gavriyel (man's name). Diminutive? I'd vote for _*Gavrelke_. Ergo? _If_ this process were a feature of Central Yiddish, I'd derive _Shmelke_ from _Shmiyel_. (In other words, "Ven di bobe volt gehat . . .".) But, _it's not_! 2. Like _Shmuel-Za(y)nvl_, we have _Shloyme-Zalman_ (= Solomon). As for _Itshe-Meyer_ (Central Yiddish _Itshe-Mayer_): Why was it paired for the Hassidic Rabbi in the first place? and, why _Simkhe-Bunim_ and _Shneyer-Zalman_? Incidentally, does anyone know how _Shneyer-Zalman_ is called to the Torah? These are two, "hebreoid", non-Hebrew names. 3. Another pairing I'm familiar with, in the category of _Yaynkef-Yitskhok_ is _Moyshe-Arn_. 4. _Un az me redt shoyn vegn nemen_, note the Litvish variants _Hirshe_, _Bere_, _Leybe_, all of them back-formations from the oblique forms of _Hirsh_, _Ber_, _Leyb_ (_zog dos Hirshen_, _gib dos Leyben_; hence _Hirshe, Leybe_, etc., on the analogy of _Moyshen_/_Moyshe_ and _Shloymen_/_Shloyme_). 5. Varda Novick asks about female names. Pairing of women's names is not nearly as frequent. At least, the rationale for particular pairs is not nearly so evident. For men, pairing generally assures the availability of a name by which he can be called to the reading of the Torah, a function which women were not expected to perform. Therefore, women a) didn't "need" them and ii) women's names are far less frequently of Hebrew origin. Still, _Rokhl-Leye_, _Sore-Rifke_, and _Khaye- Sore_ are frequent enough (much like _Yaynkef-Yitskhok_ and _Moyshe-Arn_, I think). In addition, I know a few pairs like _Sheyne-Sheyndl_ (= Name + Diminutive) and _Sheyne-Beyle_, obviously translation equivalents. I don't know the rationale for such pairs as _Yakhne-Dvoshe_. Mikhl Herzog ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol. 4.307 Mendele has 2 rules: 1. Provide a meaningful Subject: line 2. Sign your article (full name please) A Table of Contents is now available via anonymous ftp, along with weekly updates. 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