Mendele: Yiddish literature and language
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Contents of Vol. 5.316
May 10, 1996

1) Tshatshke/tsatske (Ellen Prince)
2) Recording by Sholem-Aleykhem (Louis Fridhandler)
3) YIVO recordings (Sherry Mayrent)
4) Fun dem shames (Noyekh Miller)

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Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 18:39:31 EDT
From: ellen@central.cis.upenn.edu
Subject: Tshatshke/tsatske

i find harvey spiro's proposed hebrew etymologies really fascinating. and i
agree entirely (pace noyekh!) with his intuitions about two separate words,
tshatshke for 'knick-knack' and tsatske(le) for 'young woman to reckon with'
(or however else you would translate 'oy, iz dus a tsatskele!' ;) ).
furthermore, i am pretty sure it's not limited to yinglish but is in fact at
least in the version of central yiddish that he and i grew up with.

at the same time, it should be mentioned that it's very common for two
dialectal versions of the same word to diverge in meaning, making for two
distinct words. _kirk_, now only a man's name, used to be a dialectal variant
of _church_; _chief_ and _chef_ were dialectal variants; likewise for _catch_
and _chase_, etc.

ok, i think we now need the old yiddish experts. (that's [[old yiddish]
experts], not [old [yiddish experts]]!) can beatrice or someone tell us if
_tshatshke_ or _tsatske_ occur before slavic contact? a dank.

ellen prince

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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 20:03:52 -0400
From: lfridhan@aol.com
Subject: Recording by Sholem-Aleykhem

Sholem-Aleykhems shtime  (5.312, 2)?

Ikh hob nor vos ibergeleyent epes fun Berkovitsh vegn Sholem-Aleykhemen vi er
hot epes arayngeredt in a gramofon tsvey zakhn in 1915 in Nyu York in a shvern
tsushtand, krank un umetik.

Berkovitsh shraybt in Undzere Rishoynim 5: 195:

Er hot zikh nokh gepruvt treystn mit khaloymes vegn filmirn zayne verk, vegn
_araynredn_ zayne monologn in gramofonishe platn. .... [er] iz eynmol in a
brenendikn zumer-tog, in krankn, farshmakhtn tsushtand, geforn in shtot tsu
der _viktor_-gezelshaft makhn a probe afn gramofon. ....s'iz oyfgehit gevorn
zayn shtim, in klorer, daytlekher diktsiye, durkh tsvey arayngeredte fragmentn
fun zayne verk: _Ven Ikh Bin Roytshild_ un an onheyb fun an umbakanter zakh
untern titl _A Freylekhe Khasene_, vos er hot aponim, gehat bedeye
ontsushraybn.

Oy volt ikh es gevolt hern af a teyp-mashin!!  Nu, Chaim ^Qeynekh Sapozinik!
Vi azoy kumt di kats ibern vaser?  Meglekh?

Louis Fridhandler

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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 23:04:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: oyfpro@cris.com
Subject: YIVO recordings

Several years ago I had the good fortune to work very closely with Henry
Sapoznik, in his capacity as Sound Archivist at YIVO, in an effort to catalog
and (we hoped) transfer to an accessible medium all the Yiddish 78s in the
YIVO collection.  The response of the institute was underwhelming, and when
Henry and YIVO parted company, I suspect that all prospects for further
official issuing of such material ended as well.  I relate this in the hopes
that the Mendele community can perhaps create a groundswell of support for
such projects and thus influence the powers that be that access to such
precious resources is essential for those of us interested in pursuing,
perusing, preserving and/or purveying yiddish culture.

Sherry Mayrent

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Date: Fri, 10 May 1996
From: nmiller@shakti.trincoll.edu
Subject: Fun dem shames

Der shames fort avek af a vokh un efsher a bisl lenger.  Hert nisht oyf tsu
shraybn.  Dos vet shoyn zayn farn  z e k s t n  band vayl Mendele fayert
zayn gebortstog dem 15ten May.  Zayt mir ale gezunt.

Noyekh Miller

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