Yiddish Mailing List, Issue #52 March 2, 1992 154 lines =============================== Vortshpil #1 (Daniel Moishe Sherman) Gesundheit! (Robin Rosenbaum, Terry Wood) Dray vitsen (Moishe-Nussen Eytan) Galicia (Ruvn-Mendl Turkel, Adam Reed) Thanks (Louis Janus) ------------------------ Digest-Message: 52/1 From: dave@lsuc.on.ca Subject: Vortshpil #1 Date: Mon Nov 4 08:24:00 EST 1991 What do you say when you crumple up a piece of paper, toss is basketball-style towards the garbage, and it hits the floor instead? "Mist." (Or, if you prefer a double pun, "Ikh hob gemist... areinvarfn.") ------------------------------------- Digest-Message: 52/2 From: tjw+@cis.pitt.edu (Terry J. Wood) Subject: Re: Gesundheit! (Was Re: Sneezing (was Re: Don't wake ...)) Date: 20 Dec 91 20:38:27 GMT [reposted from Usenet newsgroup alt.folklore.urban - DS] In article <1991Dec20.000426.9000@aus.intel.com> robin@aus.intel.com (robin rosenbaum) writes: >For serial Say Meaning >sneeze # >---------- --- ------- >1 S'Gesund To your health >2 S'Leven To your life >3 S'Voxem To happiness and harmony in your life >4 S'Kfelen To your life having the joyful serenity > of a babbling brook 5 Farfignugen SHEESH! Put a lid on it! [Actually, we say "Tsum gezunt, tzum lebn, an alte {bube/zeyde} zolstu vern" for each sneeze. - DS] ------------------------ Digest-Message: 52/3 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 17:10:06 GMT From: me@suzuka.u-strasbg.fr (Michel Eytan LILoL) Subject: vitsen Yiddishe vitsen #1: A yiddine gait in die gass und furtst ba yedem shritt. Nokh jedem fort s sugt zi "oi, a `horben". Plitsem drait zi zekh arim, in zet a yinger man folgt zi. "Yinger man, zogt zi, zait wenn folgt-ir mikh?" "Wus ha ist, entfert er, zait dem ershten 'horben". Yiddishe vitsen #2: Der Rebbe lernt mit di kinderlekh im 'haider, a vokh far Paisekh. Plit sem dermant er zekh az er hot epes `humetsdiks ofen boidem fargest. "M oishele, zugt er, ikh miz offen boidem gain -- di 'hazer mit di kinder , in oib di host a frage, shrai of ofen boidem". "Git, rebbe, zugt Moi shele" -- in di kinder haiben un tsi `hazern. Ven zi kimen tsim vort " lem`alu" vaist kainer vus dus vort haist. "Rebbe, shrait Moishele, vus haist lem`alu?" "Hekher, zugt der Rebbe". "Rebbe, shrait hekher Moish ele, vus haist lem`alu?". "Hekher, shrait tsirik der Rebbe". "REBBE, s hrait nokh hekher Moishele, VUS HAIST LEM`ALU?" "Der shlak zol dekh ba trefen, entfert der Rebbe". Ven der Rebbe kimt arup, farhert er di kin der. Ven zi kimmen tsim vort "lem`alu" vaist nisht der kind vemen der Rebbe farhert vus sehaist. "Ver vaist, fregt der Rebbe?" "Ikh, ikh -- melt zekh Moishele". "Nu, zugt der Rebbe, zug vus sehaist". "Der shlak zol dekh batrefen, zugt Moishele". Nu, bakimt er shoin fim Rebben mak es Mitsraim. Ven der haider endt zekh, gai Yiddishe vitsen #3: Ir vaist far vus Udem hurishen hot azoi lang gelebt? -- Val er hot nis ht gehat a shviger! ------------------------ Digest-Message: 52/4 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1992 15:57:09 -0500 From: rmt51@cas.bitnet (Rick Turkel, Ext. 2214, Room 5304B bs"d) In response to Moishe Nussen's comments on Galicia (m.y 51/2): He is correct in stating that Galicia is the name of a province in Spain. However, it is also the name of a region in southeastern Poland and northeastern Ukraine that was once an Austrian "crown land" in the former Austro-Hungarian empire. The latter is pronounced /galitsia/ and the former, /galisha/, according to Webster's. I'd be suprised to find that there is any historical connection between the two. His discussion of the origin of Nusach Sfard sounds right to me, too, although I think he may have mixed up the Vilna Gaon's siddur with that of the Ari. The latter is the siddur used by Lubavitch, and is, in fact, much closer to Nusach Sfard that to Nusach Ashkenaz. To my knowledge, there weren't very many chassidim in Lithuania, which was the seat of the rationalist approach to Yiddishkeit, i.e., the misnagdim. Rick (Ruvn-Mendl) Turkel (rmt51@cas.bitnet) ------------------------ Digest-Message: 52/5 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1992 07:51:23 -0600 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 92 17:10 EST Subject: "Galitsianer" <- "Galicja" <- "Halicz" In mail.yiddish issue #51, Moishe Nussen writes: > There is a further point that I do not understand well: > the name Galicia is precisely that of a Spanish province; although the > Galitsianer, as all jews from the East, are of German (ie Rheinland) > origin, it is fascinating to observe that. "Galitsianer" comes from "Galicja", the Polish name of the Polish and Ukrainian lands of the Austrian Empire, the Austrian zone of partitioned Poland. "Galicja" in turn comes from "Halicz", the name of a mountain located in the center of this region and visible from much of it - the Ukrainian "H" often becomes "G" in Polish. "Galicja" means "the region of Mount Halicz." It has nothing to do with Galicia in Spain. Adam_V_Reed@ATT.com ------------------------ From: "Louis Janus" Subject: thanks Thanks for all the Yiddish.mail sendings. I print them and send them to my non-computerized parents, who then pass them to all their friends in Maryland. How does one subscribe to Mendele, about which I read often in mail.yiddish? [Send mail to Noyekh Miller at mendele@vax1.trincoll.edu - DS] Louis Janus, Scandinavian Dept, U of Minn ------------------------ SOF FUN NUMER 52 ------------------------ David (Daniel Moishe) Sherman, Toronto Moderator, mail.yiddish dave@lsuc.on.ca (416) 889-7658 [Translation of the pun in 52/1: "mist" means "garbage". - DS]